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Libertas has a habit of personally abusing people who disagree with them ad accusing them of libel when they ask even basicquestions. Hopefully this will not continue here. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:G O'Sullivan|G O'Sullivan]] ([[User talk:G O'Sullivan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/G O'Sullivan|contribs]]) 20:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Libertas has a habit of personally abusing people who disagree with them ad accusing them of libel when they ask even basicquestions. Hopefully this will not continue here. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:G O'Sullivan|G O'Sullivan]] ([[User talk:G O'Sullivan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/G O'Sullivan|contribs]]) 20:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: I gave a perfectly good example of a controversial, unsourced statement, the kind of which '''is not to be allowed on biographies of living persons on Wikipedia'''. You're going to have to do a lot better than claiming a political conspiracy and reverting my edits. [[User:Barnsoldat91|Barnsoldat91]] ([[User talk:Barnsoldat91|talk]]) 00:13, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

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Questions raised in E.U. Parliament about Pentagon contracts, the C.I.A. and Libertas Funding

added section; Opiumjones 23 (talk) 01:47, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality questioned by Irish minister cats may be incorrect

is also reproted that until 2008 Declan Ganley stated he was British in UK filings of Company records so cats may be incorrect see [1]Opiumjones 23 (talk) 01:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changed Cats plus another ref [2]Opiumjones 23 (talk) 08:53, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BLP

Would anon IP editors please use only cited information and add refs as this is a page about a living person and must comply with WP:BLP. Opiumjones 23 (talk) 00:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment

Assessments of Irish related articles are normally made by the WikiProject Ireland assessment team members according to criteria set up for that purpose. This article does not come anywhere near being of High importance according to that criteria, so please do not upgrade the article to an importance rating it does not deserve, especially as he has not had a large impact in their main discipline, across a couple of generations. Your High rating claims this person to be of equal importance to such people as Daniel O'Connell, Cathal Brugha and Tony O'Reilly to name a few. Remember that Wikipedia requires people to be notable for them to even have their article accepted, so even a Low importance rating is a good thing and I am reverting it to that rating. If you don't agree then please bring request an assessment formally. ww2censor (talk) 04:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fine. I mistook high media profile/current political importance for encyclopaedia rating. Let's talk about the rating again in 40 years. Thanks for cleaning up the refs. Opiumjones 23 (talk) 15:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe a little earlier. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 18:18, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anglo adriatic, ganley group and Kosta Trebicka

More info is need on early days , Albania stock and fund raising and associates and Kosta Trebicka? You can help; Opiumjones 23 (talk) 04:07, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

and http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/d/efraim_e_diveroli/index.html

Euro parties/foundations/group see my talk page

User:Anameofmyveryown has left a good rundown of these on my talk page see [3]

Opiumjones 23 (talk) 20:28, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note to all editors

the subject of this page is a living person, politician and businessman . No un referenced info should be added to this main page!!!!see WP:BLP for guidence Opiumjones 23 (talk) 22:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality

I am going to ask that all editors start using the talk page re comments. Declan Ganley is a controversial European figure but editors must observe WP:BLP see also WP:ISNOT

Please add comments here. "His English accent comes from the fact that he was born in London, though his Irish-born parents took the family back to live in rural Co Galway when he was 13." [4].

Declan Ganley was born in British and holds both British and Irish passports. Therefore he is a British citizen first and an Irish citizen second. Wikipedia should refer to him as British or both British and Irish but not as just as an Irish citizen. It annoys me when controversial figures are said to be Irish but if they have a concrete achievement they suddenly become British. —Preceding unsigned comment added by King91620 (talkcontribs) 13:51, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There have two single purpose new accounts editing this page today. I will take it up at 3RR and BLP incidents boards if the pattern continues but we may need to flag the page.Opiumjones 23 (talk) 00:35, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re Letter from Austria

Recent edits have attempted to mke this section appear as if this was speculation. However the reference on th page has an article in which John McGuirk of Libertas confirms the story Sunday Business Post > 2008/05/25 . According to The Sunday Business Post Ganley’s anti-Lisbon Treaty group supported a letter-writing campaign to Irish citizens by an Austrian political group Rettet Österreich (Save Austria) who are supported by some far-right and neo-Nazi groups far-right support.[1] However Rettet Österreich (Save Austria)has emerged though the group has denied that they are an "exterme right wing group".</ref>[2] John McGuirk of Libertas confirmed that they had agreed to the campaign.[3]

Just so editoprs know this is confirmed info and not in contension. Opiumjones 23 (talk) 19:36, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV

On the 25th of April user "G O'Sullivan" made several edits whose purpose was obviously to discredit Ganley. One example is the sentence "How a person in his early 20s, no business record, no capital and no knowledge of Russian could gain access to such a lucrative trade in the Soviet Union is completely unknown." that mimics a legitimate encyclopaedic language, but is clearly tendentious as well as libellous in tone and implication. I have not been able to look through the rest of the article but there are likely to be more unsourced, controversial statements in there, and so I have added an NPOV tag to remain for the time being. Barnsoldat91 (talk) 19:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to disagree, but none of the edits I made were in any way libellousand their removal appears to be part of the Wiki-whitewashing effort exposed in recent days. For those not familiar with this, it has been revealed that Libertas made changes to Wiki which were then cited by a candidate on Irish radio to support a statement she was making. Frankly, the ocmments I put in are a hell of a lot less tendencious than the "he wanted to spend his life cutting turf" nonsense which is pure political positioning.

Libertas has a habit of personally abusing people who disagree with them ad accusing them of libel when they ask even basicquestions. Hopefully this will not continue here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by G O'Sullivan (talkcontribs) 20:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I gave a perfectly good example of a controversial, unsourced statement, the kind of which is not to be allowed on biographies of living persons on Wikipedia. You're going to have to do a lot better than claiming a political conspiracy and reverting my edits. Barnsoldat91 (talk) 00:13, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference Letters from Austria was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  2. ^ http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2008/05/25/story33134.asp Sunday Business Post > 2008/05/25 > Libertas and its letters from Austria
  3. ^ archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2008/05/25/story33134.asp Sunday Business Post > 2008/05/25