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When critics have long-standing TV shows on national networks, or have published books, their opinions obviously have some merit that appeals to a large public. The same cannot be said for "DVD Verdict", as far as I know, along with others. Comments such as "let’s be honest: Adrian Paul, the lead, is not an interesting actor", from Carlo Cavagna of "About Film" seems to fly in the face of popular opinion. This very expensive show ran for years with a lead who was uninteresting? |
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Please don't Wiki babble that any opinionated, biased opinion that's in print must be acceptable because it's given a citation. The sources seem to be [[WP:BIAS]], [[WP:ESSAY]], and possibly [[WP:COI]]. (Nothing like making a name for yourself by attacking a popular institution.) In any event, the criticism section needs to be trimmed to a few well-chosen sentences that represent the *typical* response of critics. Wiki is an encyclopedia, not a summary of fringe opinion. [[Special:Contributions/24.130.145.204|24.130.145.204]] ([[User talk:24.130.145.204|talk]]) 07:16, 7 August 2010 (UTC) |
Please don't Wiki babble that any opinionated, biased opinion that's in print must be acceptable because it's given a citation. The sources seem to be [[WP:BIAS]], [[WP:ESSAY]], and possibly [[WP:COI]]. (Nothing like making a name for yourself by attacking a popular institution.) In any event, the criticism section needs to be trimmed to a few well-chosen sentences that represent the *typical* response of critics. Wiki is an encyclopedia, not a summary of fringe opinion. [[Special:Contributions/24.130.145.204|24.130.145.204]] ([[User talk:24.130.145.204|talk]]) 07:16, 7 August 2010 (UTC) |
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Excess Wiki Linking
Can we be careful about Wiki linking to common English words? For instance: There was no reason to Wiki link to the words men and women in the section about the Watchers. There are many other examples, but I was cleaning up the Mechanics section and got those. NetSerfer 13:19, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
Characters Section Discussion
- I think 'main characters' are characters who were carried over through entire seasons or, perhaps, listed in the opening credits. All other characters (i.e.: Amanda, Fitzhugh) who visited fairly regularly are 'regular characters'. Any other characters of interest should be 'other characters'.
- IIRC, Amanda has recurred throughout a season or two, when she was Duncan's lover again. 80.178.189.70
Connor MacLeod's influence
I like the tag about Connor's influence to Duncan. How about put it also to Duncan MacLeod's page? I think it's more personal biography. Thanks. HoneyBee 22:45, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
- You're welcome! I did as you requested. You can see it in Duncan MacLeod's biography.
Main Characters
I'm hoping that people would help editing the main characters pages too like Duncan MacLeod, Methos, Joe Dawson, Richie Ryan, Amanda, Connor MacLeod, etc. Thanks...HoneyBee 11:06, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Episodes
Can anyone provide detail synopsis and reviews about the episodes? Thanks....HoneyBee 13:00, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
- Because the highlander episodes page is being flag as copyright violation, we encourage people to make their synopsis and reviews in Episodes of Highlander (Season 1)/temp. Thanks.
Resizing
Can anyone resize the article page into more preferable size? Because it seems the article page is a bit bigger than expected. I suggest the characters has their own separate page. Thanks. HoneyBee 04:52, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
The books section
It was mostly (96%) copied from these two sources -
Very uncool. 80.178.196.196 19:35, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
- Uncool, it's true, but shouldn't we have some reference to the other books that have been published? Why did we leave the one? Nae'blis 20:05:46, 2005-08-29 (UTC)
- We should. But these summaries will have to be rewritten, and I don't know them , so I can't do it myself.
- Why did I leave the one? Because it was within the 4% I didn't find in google. :-) 80.178.148.38 05:20, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
- Ahhh, okay. Just making sure we weren't being scammed by the author or something weird. Not having read any of them, I can't add summaries, either. :/ Nae'blis 16:41:16, 2005-08-30 (UTC)
- Why did I leave the one? Because it was within the 4% I didn't find in google. :-) 80.178.148.38 05:20, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
- We should. But these summaries will have to be rewritten, and I don't know them , so I can't do it myself.
From a Business Perspective
Highlander: The Series was unique to American series television. It was the first action-hour series ever produced for American audiences by a French production company, Gaumont. It was an international coproduction, and the only American entity involved was the US syndicator, Rysher, which was later bought by Paramount after The Raven had been produced. As a coproduction, it was commissioned by and produced for French, German, Canadian and Japanese television broadcasters, and broadcast in the U.S on a consortium of individual local stations across the country. In that context, for the series to have had such an impressive run of 6 seasons and one year of a spin-off was remarkable and historic and that feat has not been repeated. Dawgknot 22:18, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Original network/channel for infobox
For tv show articles on wikipedia, the infobox lists the country in which the show was produced and the network/channel that first aired the show in that country. Or in the case of international co-productions, both the producing countries and the channels that first air the show in each of these countries. Obviously Highlander is a very complicated case, but I gather that in France the early seasons were screened by TF1 and later seasons by M6. Can anyone confirm this?
Additionally, is it correct to say that the show premiered in syndation across all of the US and Canada? Or was there a Canadian network involved? If so, I guess that the Candian network should be listed with the French channels in the infobox and the syndication entry removed. --Matthew Humphreys 12:55, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Quickenings
there is already a list of quickenings for this series, why do you want to make another one? yes, it combines with the movie ones. i don't think make another one is necessary. what do you guys think? HoneyBee 09:01, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- If there is, that's great. Where is it? OzOz
- i am not sure i understand the term of 'list of quickening' you want to make. if you still want to make, please do so. in the mean time, i think it's better to keep it as it is. you should click Quickening to see whether there's a list or not. do you mean the terms like dark quickening, double quickening or....for example duncan killed so and so in every episode? i think the list is too long, it would be better to put the 'list' of immortals/duncan that got quickening in the episode page. whadaya' think? HoneyBee 09:30, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- As you have probably noticed, I deleted this request. However, I'd like to mention other death-lists in wikipedia which appear to work fine - List of Oz Deaths and List of deaths in The Sopranos series. OzOz
- yeah, i see what you mean with the death list. i think it would be better to put the list in each of the episodes. so we don't have too many pages. but thanks. i think it's a great idea. HoneyBee 11:03, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- As you have probably noticed, I deleted this request. However, I'd like to mention other death-lists in wikipedia which appear to work fine - List of Oz Deaths and List of deaths in The Sopranos series. OzOz
- i am not sure i understand the term of 'list of quickening' you want to make. if you still want to make, please do so. in the mean time, i think it's better to keep it as it is. you should click Quickening to see whether there's a list or not. do you mean the terms like dark quickening, double quickening or....for example duncan killed so and so in every episode? i think the list is too long, it would be better to put the 'list' of immortals/duncan that got quickening in the episode page. whadaya' think? HoneyBee 09:30, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
US Location
Is it ever mentioned where is Duncan and Tessa's antiques shop or where the Dojo is? (The french location is clearly Paris, but I don't recall them ever mentioning the state\city where Duncan lives in the US) OzOz 09:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- Duncan and Tessa lived in Seacouver, so was the dojo and most of the location in the series. it's a fictional city. HoneyBee 10:11, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. Could you mention places where it is said? OzOz 17:30, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- I dunno which website though... I just remember it from the series. But I think they usually mention it in most of general highlander series websites.HoneyBee 06:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. Could you mention places where it is said? OzOz 17:30, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Long article
"This page is 34 kilobytes long. This may be longer than is preferable." We need to edit some of the stuff, guys. Maybe we should move something to different page. Any suggestions? HoneyBee 11:00, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Shortening Fictional Universe
I've decided to cut several info on the section "Fictional Universe". There's a lot that is repeated in the Immortal page and doesn't need to be there. Since the page is so big it would help a lot. Secretaria, 22 May 2006 Would anybody other than myself want to have a section on "Highlander" the Music. I have tried in vane to find the name of the piece of music in the begining of "Homecoming". I love many of the pieces that Queen did for the show and have always loved "Dust in the Wind" by Kansas. Played in the episode in which Tesa was killedPatgetty 04:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Episode Order
I've reorganized the 4th and 5th season episodes in the same order of the DVDs.Secretaria, 16:10 29 June 2006
Hey Secretaria...it seems there is an episode missing from Highlander: The Series (season 5). According to IMDb, episode 17 is "Double Jeopardy" which corresponds to the episode list on Hulu (Fancast) also. On a much less important note, the "original air dates" listed on IMDb don't match the ones listed here. For accuracy's sake, do you know which is correct? Thanks so much! Lightningblue (talk) 23:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
There can only be one
How can the words "there can only be one" not appear anywhere on this page?
- Because they don't mean all that much. Just a catchphrase wannabe which didn't catch all that well. 87.69.104.254 14:05, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Removed trivia section
The trivia section has been removed, as WP doesn't really endorse them. Notability checking, citation work and converting into prose will need to be accomplished before any of this can return to the article.
- Trivia
This article contains a list of miscellaneous information. (November 2007)
- The series shared the film's theme song, Queen's "Princes of the Universe". In addition the song "Who Wants to Live Forever", featured prominently in the movie, was used in the series. Also, the song "Don't Lose Your Head" could be heard in the "Free Fall" episode, guest starring rock star Joan Jett.
- The episode "Avenging Angel" features a swordfight between Immortals that appears to be on holy ground — however, the site is actually a Knights Templar museum displaying religious artifacts from the Crusades. The Knights Templar were excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Church, and thus a loophole from the "holy ground" concept emerges. The confusion arises because footage from this fight is seen in the opening credits of later episodes as the narrator speaks of holy ground.
- "Comes a Horseman," "Revelation 6:8," "Band of Brothers," and "Homeland" are held by many fans to be perhaps the best episodes of the series.[citation needed]
- Singers who have appeared as guest/regular characters:
- Roger Daltrey (Hugh Fitzcairn) - lead singer of The Who
- Roland Gift (Xavier St. Cloud) - lead singer of the Fine Young Cannibals
- Dee Dee Bridgewater (Carolyn in "The Beast Below") - jazz singer
- Martin Kemp (Alfred Cahill in "Avenging Angel") - Spandau Ballet
- Sheena Easton (Annie Devlin in "An Eye For an Eye")
- Joan Jett (Felicia Martins in "Free Fall")
- Vanity (Rebecca Lord in "Revenge is Sweet") - singer (from group Vanity 6).
- Marcus Testory (Caspian in "Revelation 6:8") - lead singer of M.E.L.T.. The song featured during the Quickening in "The Modern Prometheus" was composed and performed by Testory and his band.
- Sandra Bernhard (Carolyn Marsh in "Dramatic License")
- The character "Duncan MacLeod" was ranked #11 in TV Guide's list of the "25 Greatest Sci-Fi Legends" (1 August 2004 issue).
- Werner Stocker (Darius) was unable to shoot the last episode of the first season "The Hunters," due to cancer. That episode, which opened with his character's murder, edited together existing footage from earlier episodes for the first scenes. Stocker died by the time the episode was aired on TV. Although his character had been always planned to die, his role in that episode was originally to be much larger.
- Jim Byrnes, who plays Joe Dawson, also contributed many songs to the show's soundtrack. Some of these can frequently be heard as background music during scenes in Joe's bar.
- Early in the second season, Alexandra Vandernoot told the producers she didn't want to be on the show anymore — which lead the writers to kill her character off in "The Darkness."
- The pilot episode, "The Gathering," was originally intended as the third "Highlander" sequel, a TV-movie with a two-hour running time. Eventually, the budget was too low, and Christopher Lambert didn't agree to star until late in production, so the idea was scrapped and the episode teleplay was rewritten down to an hour.
- "Archangel" was to be a cliffhanger setting up Season 6. After Duncan kills Richie, he retreats to a monastery for one year. Season 6 picks up after that year, and Ahriman has taken control over most of the world. There is a rebellion. Joe and Methos find Duncan in the monastery, and talk him into getting back into the fight. Season 6 was to concern that struggle. Apparently, Adrian Paul wanted less involvement in Highlander so he could pursue his movie career. Thus, a new, more-truncated ending to the series was designed.
- According to series swordmaster Bob Anderson, the sparking effects when swords clashed were generated by hooking one sword up to the positive terminal of a 12-volt battery, and the other sword up to the negative lead. In some cases, when this was unfeasible, special effects were added in post-production.
- The number of immortals in the series is implied to be substantially larger than the Immortals in the movies. In Highlander: Endgame, Duncan is said to have beheaded around 176 Immortals (whilst in the series, it seems more due to his renewed activity in the 1990s). Connor MacLeod scored around 260 Quickenings, and their rival, Jacob Kell, an astounding 666 Quickenings. It is also implied that Methos probably has the largest numbers of Quickenings, due to his old age, but is perhaps not necessarily the strongest.
- If you add up the number of Quickenings Duncan has experienced, the number of Connor's, and Jacob Kell's, which Duncan received from beheading both men, the number reaches 1,104.
- The episode "Band of Brothers" shows the battlefield of Waterloo covered with snow, despite the fact that the battle happened on June 18, 1815, in the warmest time of year. Producer Bill Panzer recounts that a heavy snowfall happened the day before filming.[1]
- Arcayne (cast a spell) 15:50, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
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Books Note
Should we note that two seperate novels were, Higlander: Barricades and Highlander: The Eye of The Dawn we're both announced but neither released. I'm not sure if its notable enough to worry about, though there are sources. Hooper (talk) 16:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- If they are reliable sources, go ahead. Rosenknospe (talk) 16:32, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Highlander on Hulu = US only
There's a link leading to the Highlander's section of Hulu.com. However, the episodes can only be viewed by US residents. I added "(United States only)" to the link's description, but this change has been reverted because it seems I don't have any source to support this claim.
I'm kind of lost here. Clicking on the link does lead me to the episodes section and when I try to view one, it says that I can't watch them because I'm not living in US. Talk about ironic, considering it's a France/Canada coproduction.
Maybe I'm missing something (I'm relatively new to editing Wikipedia), but to me, it's like having to prove that a blue bird is blue. I mean, isn't the website itself enough of a proof?
JohnnyTheWolf (talk) 19:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Johnny is right, Hulu works only for the US, it says so in their About page. I don't think it needs to be linked in the External links section, because I used the same link in Highlander: The Series (season 1) and no reviewer at FLC asked me to source that. I think we can just leave it that way. Cheers, Rosenknospe (talk) 08:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Narration credit correction?
I apologize, this seems like the right place to put this, but I thought the opening narration for all of season 2 and 3 was by Christopher Lambert? The words are definitely correct, but that sure doesn't sound like Jim Byrnes and does sound a lot like Lambert. From season 4 on the opener definitely sounds like "Joe" and he even takes first person credit for who he is, "I am a watcher..." Can someone verify, perhaps my ears just really want it to be Lambert? Thanks. Lightningblue (talk) 05:14, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Question value of these critics
When critics have long-standing TV shows on national networks, or have published books, their opinions obviously have some merit that appeals to a large public. The same cannot be said for "DVD Verdict", as far as I know, along with others. Comments such as "let’s be honest: Adrian Paul, the lead, is not an interesting actor", from Carlo Cavagna of "About Film" seems to fly in the face of popular opinion. This very expensive show ran for years with a lead who was uninteresting?
Please don't Wiki babble that any opinionated, biased opinion that's in print must be acceptable because it's given a citation. The sources seem to be WP:BIAS, WP:ESSAY, and possibly WP:COI. (Nothing like making a name for yourself by attacking a popular institution.) In any event, the criticism section needs to be trimmed to a few well-chosen sentences that represent the *typical* response of critics. Wiki is an encyclopedia, not a summary of fringe opinion. 24.130.145.204 (talk) 07:16, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- ^ Episode "Band of Brothers", Bonus Material, Bill Panzer's interview, in Highlander: The Series (season 1) (DVD, Davis-Panzer Productions, Inc., 2001), disc 5.