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According to the McDonald's website, the actual name of the sandwich is the McGriddles, not the McGriddle. This redirect should be deleted to make room for the article to be moved here. A redirect should be left at McGriddle. I don't see why this move would be controversial, but if you think so, let me know and I'll add it to WP:RPM. --Nick—^Contact/_Contribs 03:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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McGriddles → McGriddle – I'm sure the website says "McGriddles" unintentionally and WP:SINGULAR suggests that the singular name be used except in certain circumstances. Marcus Qwertyus 02:20, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the website seems to say it's a McGriddles sandwich, so "McGriddle" is not used in the singular. However, the bread of the sandwich is a "griddle cake". McGriddles sandwich would work though. 184.144.168.112 (talk) 06:58, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Most unlikely that all the website pages are in error, see [1] [2] and note that while I searched on the singular, McGriddle(s) always came back plural, while McMuffin came back singular. WP:SINGULAR says we use the plural in exactly this sort of case. Andrewa (talk) 16:21, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support: It looks like McDonald's consistently refers to them as "McGriddles" (let's not assume they made a mistake), but others do use the singular "McGriddle", so it is not "always in a plural form in English" as specified by WP:SINGULAR. –CWenger (^ • @) 16:48, 5 June 2011 (UTC) changed vote, see below[reply]
- These others are not all that common [3] [4]. Obviously, always in a plural form in English doesn't mean that we only need to find one English speaker who once used the term trouser to make a case for renaming the trousers article. So, where do we draw the line? And is there any evidence that this line has been reached? Andrewa (talk) 01:58, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - It's obviously a judgement call, and you are free to come to your own conclusion. Anyway, I'm also swayed by the thought of how illogical it would sound for somebody to say "I'm eating a McGriddles" or "this McGriddles is delicious". It certainly doesn't sound like a scissors/trousers-type word to me. –CWenger (^ • @) 04:01, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - I'd guess that McDonalds don't do a lot by chance, and that the slightly illogical sound (I agree on that) is quite deliberate. It has certainly worked in my case, I'd probably not have yet heard of it otherwise, and I guess it may come to Australia, and I'll probably be looking for it now if it does. But, if the term has general adoption (as seems indicated by the data) then it's not up to Wikipedia to pull the plug on it. Andrewa (talk) 04:14, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      - Yeah, you might be right. I watched a couple of the first ads for it on YouTube and they seem to say "McGriddles" despite the awkwardness (albeit always followed by "sandwich" so it doesn't sound as unnatural).
Neutral: McDonald's always uses the plural form, and although occasionally other people use the singular form, there is no pressing need to move it. –CWenger (^ • @) 04:22, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment since this is a McDonald's invented term, how does anyone know that "McGriddles" isn't singular and plural? Wouldn't "McGriddle" need to be supported by reliable sources to prove it exists as a singular form, instead of a typo of the correct form "McGriddles"? 65.95.15.60 (talk) 06:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 *****Yeah, you might be right. I watched a couple of the first ads for it on YouTube and they seem to say "McGriddles" despite the awkwardness (albeit always followed by "sandwich" so it doesn't sound as unnatural).
 *'''Neutral''': McDonald's always uses the plural form, and although occasionally other people use the singular form, there is no pressing need to move it. –[[User:CWenger|CWenger]] ([[User talk:CWenger|<font face="Webdings"><big>^</big></font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/CWenger|<font face="Webdings"><big>@</big></font>]]) 04:22, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
-**'''Comment''' since this is a McDonald's invented term, how does anyone know that "McGriddles" isn't singular and plural? [[Special:Contributions/65.95.15.60|65.95.15.60]] ([[User talk:65.95.15.60|talk]]) 06:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
+**'''Comment''' since this is a McDonald's invented term, how does anyone know that "McGriddles" isn't singular and plural? Wouldn't "McGriddle" need to be supported by reliable sources to prove it exists as a singular form, instead of a typo of the correct form "McGriddles"? [[Special:Contributions/65.95.15.60|65.95.15.60]] ([[User talk:65.95.15.60|talk]]) 06:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)