User talk:Celestianpower

Sunday 29 September 18:39 UTC

My talk page policy...

1. Please Feel free to add comments and please click this edit link to do so. I value all feedback.
2. Discussions are archived every 20 inactive topics. If you wish to revive an old topic of discussion, copy the entire text of that topic (including any WikiSyntax) and put it at the bottom by following the edit link above.
3. I will usually reply on your talk page (if such action is required) and will leave a note here in summary of points made. If a discussion is getting long (more than one or two questions or statements) then I may just post replies here.
4. Your comment's wording will not be edited but layout may do. I may however change the headings to increase the ease of navigation.
5. Vandalism will always be reverted however a note will be placed at the bottom and a link (to show the changes made) put.
6. Any profanity, vulgarity or other harmful text will be editted out immediately using the <vulgarity /> tag or, in extreme cases, it deleted and a link put to the version with the harmful text included.
7. If you have come here to ask me about doing adminly things then consider going to the administrators' notice board instead.
8. If you feel strongly that any of my actions were wrong then please revert them, rather than asking me too. I'm happy to explain my rationale but if you feel strongly enough then the revert should be in your name.

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Archives: Enter the archives!

Content Archival

All of my talk page messages, written between February 10 2006 and February 25 2006 have now been archived. See User:Celestianpower/Archive20 to revive a topic if you so wish.

Bulby and Furby

Why does the Furby information need to be in the Bulbasaur article at all? That's several degrees of separation away from Bulbasaur... that 6 years ago, in one country, a whole slew of toys that happened to include Bulbasaur was the most popular? I really don't think that that needs to be in there, and certainly not in the lead. If people need to see why Bulbasaur is connected to the real world, there's an excellent article, Pokémon, for that. Why do you feel that putting the Furby stuff in the Bulbasaur lead is so important? Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 22:24, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

A note from the Admin Coaching coordinator

Hello, coaches. As you can see, there is a significant backlog at the Esperanza Admin Coaching program. Since we do not want users to have to wait forever to get assigned, I'm asking all of you for a status report. If you feel that you are done, that your coachee is not active enough, or that you could handle the extra load from another coachee, please tell me in my talk page as soon as possible. Thanks! Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 06:48, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

FAC

I'm not done having my say yet...but I got too tired to finish. I promise I'll get it done soon. pschemp | talk 10:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

I've arrived

My user space was vandalized three times this evening for the first time ever. :) [1] The vandal even updated his vandal count, wasn't that nice of him? Essjay says that now I have arrived. I'm so proud. pschemp | talk 08:05, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

ESP elections for AC

the elections are tied will 3 new members be added?

also i change the notice template thingy on the esp main page hope you don't mind

why do you ignore me? it says you are in did i do something wrong?

He's probably just offline, his last edit was a few hours ago. Cheers, The Minister of War ^(Peace) 16:21, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Bulbasaur FAC

Hi - I thought I ought to try to pour some oil on troubled waters. I may be preaching to the choir, speaking to the Admin General of Esperanza, but please don't take the comments on WP:FAC personally. I understand your frustration in dealing with comments that seem driven by the subject matter of the article rather than its merits or demerits as an article, but you will be much better off in the long run (i) simply pointing out where objections are not actionable; (ii) dealing with any objections that are actionable; (iii) relying on Raul654 to notice that there is a lot of support - more so even than the previous couple of times - and not many actionable objections. Perhaps it will take another iteration of review and FAC to get there, but please try to stay calm - I know it is difficult, but you will only harm your own case if you lose your temper (or are seen to have done so). For what it is worth, based on other contributions, I think Tsavage is motivated by good intentions. -- ALoan (Talk) 17:46, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I considered coming here and saying almost the exact same thing as ALoan has written above, so I'll go ahead and say that I think his advice is very sound. :) -- Hinotori^{(talk)|(ctrb)} 18:20, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I can't help feeling upset when he's so blatently lying, I'm afraid. --Celestianpower ^háblame 18:22, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, obviously, I disagree with the objections; the best way to counteract them is to explain why they are wrong. Please, please don't get stressed about this. It is not nice to have your work criticised, whether or not you agree with the criticism. Take a deep breath; go and do something else for a while. -- ALoan (Talk) 18:57, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I should add that the "mediocre, even crappy" was entirely uncalled for - I've seen mediocre articles, and this is not one of them - I note that it was carefully phrased in as "compelling, even brilliant" should NEVER equal "mediocre, even crappy" rather than actually saying that the article was crappy, although that implication was clear. -- ALoan (Talk) 21:03, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

You may like to see the list of points that User:Tsavage has posted on my talk page. I have to say, some of them look quite good ideas. -- ALoan (Talk)

Esperanza Feb 06 elections

I sent you an urgent e-mail regarding the elections. Please read it ASAP.

By the way, if you put 2 and 2 together regarding my username and e-mail address, you should work out my real name. That makes you and FireFox that know it. With great power, comes great responsibility... haz _(user talk)^e 20:26, 27 February 2006

Big, big problem. User_talk:Mathwiz2020#Esperanza_elections haz _(user talk)^e 21:01, 27 February 2006

I am on the member page - in fact, I added myself in this edit on 18 February 2006 at 01:07. Does this mean my vote will count? --M@thwiz2020 21:33, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

Hi. My name is Jared and I'd like to ask you a favor. I an not an admin, so I can't do it myself; User:Kalsermar and I have identified 3 people who seem to be sockpuppets of eachother. There is a lot of evidence for this, as noted on this page. Could you please step in and try to resolve this, (most likely by blocking the user names.) Thanks. --Jared ^[T]/_[+] 21:50, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

My final good-byes

Hello Celestianpower. I came to tell all my friends, yes, that means you, that I am leaving Wikipedia. Thank you for being so kind to me during my stay on Wikipedia. I hope to speak with you again someday. Special thanks to you for being the first Wikipedian to list me as a user they held in high regards, that moment was special to me. Thank you. Moe ε 05:56, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Stress ball

Hello! I nominated this page at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Programs#Esperanzian_Drive and I also found an image that you uploaded to use on the page, so I figured you might be interested in the subject. Hopefully we can expand this beyond a stub, and help relieve some stress of Wikipedians. :o) EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 05:10, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Please see here the message

Please take notice of Wikipedia:Esperanza/Charter Amendments At approx. 845 EST (one hour) I will place it before the entire Esperanza Community for debate. I am informing all Leadership members. --WikieZach| talk 00:45, 3 March 2006 (UTC) PS: Happy 1,000,000 DAYE!

Thank you!

Thank you! Hi Celestianpower, thank you for your support in my Rfa! It passed with a final tally of 86/0/0. If you need help or just want to talk let me know! Again, thank you! – Dakota ~ ° 22:42, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for your support in my request for adminship. I'm delighted that the RfA succeeded with a final consensus of 52/17/7, and receiving comments including having 'excellent potential to become a great moderator', and I am now an administrator. It did however only just pass, and I shall do my very best to rectify any of my errors, including the general belief that I should do more article work. If you have any concerns, or if you ever feel that I may be able to help you, please feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Again, thank you!

Ian13/talk 19:26, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Award

I award you this amphibian with fins for trying so hard on Wikipedia.
—pschemp 23:18, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Admin coaching

Hi, sorry I haven't responded sooner. I've been totally focussed on 2006 Winter Olympics items. I could use any advice as to what my potential limitations are regarding if I were to be considered for an adminship. I know that one of the things is that I don't spend a huge amount of time on talk pages or things like AfD or other things like that. Ever since I started editing Olympics pages, I realized how inadequate they are and tend to just plug away at those sorts of things. I'd love any advice of where I could get more involved in things. Sue Anne 08:16, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi!

Hey Celestianpower, I started to worry about your absence, but your wikibreak message says it all I guess! I hope they get it sorted out soon! Try not to get too frustrated by it, see it as a Wikiholiday in which you get to read some books or do some baking for a change ;-) (just kidding, I know it's frustrating nonetheless). Take care, --JoanneB 11:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I hope you get back on soon! P.S. I'm now an admin :P Ian13/talk 18:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm so very relieved now that you posted. :) btw we made up a new Esperanza holiday in your absence. Hope you don't mind. Wikipedia:Esperanza/Calendar/March pschemp | talk 19:21, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy funny-and-slighty-random-love day!

Hi Celestian! I hope your internets get working again soon. Cheers! --Fang Aili 20:22, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm thinking that I'll need a new router and I can't afford one of those... :(. --Celestianpower ^háblame 10:56, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

You could try ebay or freecycle. (And thanks for the tl-ising. :) --Fang Aili 17:23, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Requests for Adminship/Steveo2

When you voted "neutral" in my RfA, you mentioned that you've heard my name somewhere. This is because you have left messages to users that I have also written to. And now you know. Thank you for leaving your opinions on the RfA.JaredW! 18:06, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Trading card game

Hi, thanks for letting me know about this. You make two points, firstly that "Trading Card Game" is a proper noun. Certainly you could argue for "Pokemon Trading Card Game", "Neopets Trading Card Game" or "YU-GI-OH! Trading Card Game" needing capitals, I think it's harder to argue for the =term on it's own. Similarly I have a copy of "The Hobbit, the Book of the Film", I would not talk about it as the Book (that's reserved for THHGTTG or holy books :). To a lesser extent the same applies, for example, to Pepy's, one could say "in his Diaries" or equally reasonably "in his diaries"
Your second point, whether is this a job for a bot, is simpler. The bot isn't mindlessly replacing all section headings with slightly lower case variants, it's currently only changing about 200 specific headings - like "Selected Filmography" to "Selected filmography". Of course there's always the risk that someone's written book called Selected Filmography, but that is within the bounds of acceptable risk, IMHO. Rich Farmbrough 16:57 8 March 2006 (UTC).

Yes, I would be happy to do that, probably tonight, maybe tomorrow. Rich Farmbrough 17:05 8 March 2006 (UTC).

illuminatus fac

hi, you commented that the one-pgraph "numerology" section could be removed. is it an objection to its content, or the fact it is one pgraph? cheers. Zzzzz 17:13, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Bulbasaur

Hi - You may be losing the motivation to deal with this (I can understand it if you are) but I have tried to boil down the objections to the FAC as far as possible in a new summary section at the top. It seems that there are three:

• References thought to be inadequate (not sufficiently authoritative; not giving sufficiently verification)
• Elements thought to be missing (merchandise sales figures, design history and cultural impact)
• Context thought to be insufficient

Without getting into another point/counterpoint, it seems to me:

• You also can't produce "authoritative" references if they don't exist, and you can't do very much about the "authority" of the references that do exist: they are what they are, and either they do or they don't support what the article says.
• You can't add information that is not available in a verifiable form, and I would guess that these elements simply are not available in a published form, so how can you add them in a way that can be verified?
• The article can't explain each and every work, but I hope that a 90-year-old grandmother (who was motivated enough in the first place, and clicked through to the linked articles) would be able to work out what the article was saying. If not, a bit more explanation is required.

Just some thoughts... -- ALoan (Talk) 18:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Serial Comma

Does WP have a policy about it? I'm not going to revert the deletion of one from Illuminatus!! (I don't think I wrote that sentence), but I guess I'm one of those people who think the serial comma is sometimes appropriate; the sentence it was in seemed to be one of those. It stated: "The narrative often switches between third and first person perspectives, and jumps around in time." With the comma this indicates that the narrative switches between two perspectives and that it also jumps around in time (jumps being a verb). Without the comma it seems to me that it indicates that the narrative switches between three things: two narratives and jumps around in time (jumps being a noun). I don't know that that makes a big difference, but it does seem to make a difference. Incidentally, have you ever seen What Color Is Your Parachute? That author is a comma fiend as I recall.

As for the Numerology passage, I could take it or leave it (I did primarily write that one). Illuminatus does have 5, 17, and 23 sprinkled throughout starting from the first page, and there are a number of places where the numerology is discussed in far greater detail than it would be possible to cover in the article. Why did you think it should be removed, does it make the article too long, does it not explain it as well as it should, or is it simply unnecessary? Thanks. Шизомби 20:33, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Woohoo! Yeah! I'm the first to get to tell you! Great job, Bulbasaur is now a Featured Article !!!1111!!!  :) w00t! pschemp | talk 05:08, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

*congratulatory hug* - CorbinSimpson 05:33, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Wow! Congrats! --JoanneB 10:22, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

The Featured Article Oddball Barnstar Category: Featured Articles The Featured Article Oddball Barnstar is awarded to Celestianpower for being the driving force behind the successful Bulbasaur FAC. An unusual article for an encyclopedia, but one most deserving.

I have a question

Your a big wig at Esperanza so, i have a question. Would a little contraversy like talking about teams in sports and stuff be any good?--Slipknot222 01:27, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

please help

I'm upset and am appealing to you as the admin who "welcomes the chance to help users out." -not to mention your esperanza involvement. I plastered my complaints all over my user and talk pages. Any comments or actions would be helpful, just please don't not respond. Thank you. -LambaJan 03:06, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for any consideration. Things settled a little bit and my upsetness simmered down to a mild case of dissapointment. I think I'll be ok. I wish I were good enough to have not gotten upset at all, but people let names and labels come between them and logic and normal procedure, and that just got under my skin. I'm sorry if I brought you into a difficult situation. -LambaJan 02:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Bulbasaur FAC

Congrats! Remember it was me who told you it was going to be alright, hahaha :-P -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 13:17, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Congrats for getting Bulbasaur passed. FAC's are always tough, but that one was crazy hard. However, I'm offended by the notice on your userpage that "opposers can just rot". Telling me that I can rot because I thought the referencing was poor in the article you wrote (which is the same thing I tell dozens of people on WP:FAC) is gratutitously inflammatory. I expect better from someone with your reputation. —Spangineer^[es] (háblame) 03:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind reply. I understand your frustration with people who think your work is poor and perhaps don't value it as much as you do, but I encourage you to assume good faith. We're all here to build an encyclopedia; the problem is that we all have different ideas of what the perfect encyclopedia looks like. Oh, and nice sig =) Have you been using it every since you started here? —Spangineer^[es] (háblame) 03:31, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Fw:WP:MIND answering

User:Shreshth91 proposed that answers be given as e-mail, to assure privacy. What do you think about that? Fetofs ^Hello! 13:16, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Successful RfA

File:Saguaro2.jpg

Thanks for your support and kind words on my recent RfA, which I am pleased to say passed with a final tally of 80/1/1. If you ever need any help, or if I mess something up as an admin, please let me know. Cactus.man ✍ 20:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Smurrayinchester's RFA

Thank you, Celestianpower
	for voting in my RFA. It passed with a result of 100/1/0. Thanks for your vote! If you have any comments, please say so here. smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 19:29, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Your School IP

Hi mate. I just plonked a very short ban on your school IP (30 minutes) for vandalism. However, I noticed that some of the edits were coming from other IPs in the same block, and the talk pages for some of those say they belong to "UK Internet for Learning". Are the addresses specific to your school, or does your school access via some other service? --kingboyk 13:08, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi (I'm answering here because I can't edit anywhere else, obviously). Well, they must be used elsewhere since there was only one boy on these machines during then, a lesson. He might have done it but I doubt it since it was during a lesson. I really don't know - sorry. --Celestianpower ^háblame 13:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

OK, cheers. I don't know if you've found it yet or not, but Wikipedia:Blocking policy proposal might interest you. If adopted and implemented could solve these problems for you. --kingboyk 14:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Voted ages ago - that's not been closed yet? --Celestianpower ^háblame 17:01, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks!

Hi CP! Thanks for extremely supporting my RfA, mate. It passed at 105/1/0, putting me in WP:100 - I'm delighted and surprised! I'm always happy to help out, so if you need anything, as always please drop me a line. Cheers! ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 19:50, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikiethics

Hi,

We started a proposal Wikipedia:Wikiethics to state the existing policies coherently and make suggestions on improving the editorial standards in Wiki. I thought you might be interested in contributing to that proposal.

Unfortunately, a pro-porn and pro-offense lobby is trying to make this proposal a failure. They unilaterally started an approval poll although almost no one including me believe that it is time for a vote, simply because the policy is not ready. It is not even written completely.

Editors who thinks that the policy needs to be improved rather than killed by an unfair poll at the beginning of the proposal, started another poll ('Do we really need a poll at this stage?') at the same time. The poll is vandalized for a while but it is stable now. A NO vote on this ('Do we really need a poll now?') poll will strengthen the position of the editors who are willing to improve the ethics policy further.

If you have concerns about the ethics and editorial standards in Wiki, please visit the page Wikipedia:Wikiethics with your suggestions on the policy. We have two subpages: Arguments and Sections. You might want to consider reviewing these pages as well...

Thanks in advance. Resid Gulerdem 00:13, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Rune welsh's RFA

Thank you for the vote. Rune shall win! The mop shall be his. Thank you once again!--Yours Esperanzially--Tdxiang 陈 鼎 翔 (Talk)ContributionsContributions Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 09:31, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I would love your help.

Hi CP,

I know you are interested in christianity, and I recently started a new wiki over at wikicities which is on the subject of christianity. Christian Knowledge Base is the site.

The goal is to have a knowledgebase on christianity from a distinctly "C(hristian)POV" rather than the NPOV. It is not meant to be a mere Christian Encyclopedia, but to foster a real sense of community. I'd like to include things like current events, news, stories, and anything that would add to both an understanding of Christianity, but also its enjoyment. I'm looking for help to build a resource that could really enrich the lives of Christians.

I know you are busy but I am actively seeking new sysops/admins to help me build this site up, and I would be positively thrilled if you could contribute in any capacity whatsoever. nsandwich 05:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza IRC bots

Hello Celestianpower. KOS made both Misza13 and me remove our bots from #wikipedia-esperanza, based on the philosophy that only one bot should be allowed in the channel. However, I got the impression earlier that you did not subscribe to this belief, and I thought I would try and appeal KOS's decision to you :-) Thanks, Where ^(talk) 17:37, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Chuck.gif listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:Chuck.gif, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

- A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:27, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

Reach out Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience: "No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Note from the editor Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!

The last AC meeting (full log) Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before. Bans and Access level changes (apart from autovoice) in the IRC channel are to be reported at the new log. In the IRC channel, there is going to be only one bot at a time. The charter requires members to have 150 edits and 2 weeks editing. Why this is the case will be clarified. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Typo in newsletter

1) Well he left it on there :P 2) Yes, it works for newsletters. Main pages on the other hand... 3) I'm bored a lot! Luigi30 (Ταλκ το mε) 19:49, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for Skarmory

Hey Cel, thanks for helping via tidying up the Skarmory and Torchic article! I feel slightly better when someone doesn't wipe my editting or complain because it doesn't fit in the dot-to-dot guide. The main reason Skarmory was needing a lot of work was primarilly (that can't be you spell that) because I've been focusing more Torchic (I never want to see another plush toy again), as well as the portal, rather than Umbreon and Skarmory (which I both did work on tonight). Thanks again and keep you the great work, Highway 01:12, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Images and questions..

Hey.. again.. : P I am still working on Torchic, and I was thinking about adding a couple of pictures to improve the article. I was thinking that a picture of one of the plush toys and/or a screenshot of Torchic in [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire]. While I could manage to find/photograph a picture of Torchic in-game, and copy the copyright tags used from other in-game screenshots, I was not sure if I could upload a Hasbro product picture.

So, questions:

1. If I was to upload a screenshot, could I use the normal tags (I was looking at the picture of the battle between Bulbasaur and Charmander in the Bulbasaur which you uploaded) ?
2. Can I upload a Hasbro picture? If so, what tags would I use?
3. Does uploading picture kill bandwidth/MB/etc, or is it just the same as uploading into a Photobucket?

Hope you can help me with my questions. Thanks much, Highway 14:40, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, it did help. Couple of things though..

1. 1. .. What's an emulator? I'm guessing it's some form of program that plays the game or similar, where can you find one?
   2. I don't have the toy myself, it's on the website. I'll guess I'll have to settle for the screenshot..
   3. I'm sure it'll be the same, the word "upload" was what freaked me earlier : P

Thank you for the help, Highway 15:02, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

The toys are also on pokémoncenter.com, are they under any different liscening? Highway 15:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Possible legal infringement on a page

Dear Wikipedia Admin

I have contacted you concerning the following article: Windows Genuine Advantage. Users are using this page to spread information on how to bypass anti-piracy technology used by Microsoft. Please see my discussion topic on the article for more details. Any help in this matter is appreciated.

Thanks,

Kyle 15:19, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism from 62.171.194.0/26 range

You participated in a discussion concerning vandalism from the 62.171.194.0/26 IP range about 3 months ago (Dec 2005). An indefinite block of this range was discussed, and you reported that it was from your school and that a block would block you as well. The decision that was reached was that you would manage the block, and unblock for your own use when you needed to. Since then, vandalism from this range has started pretty heavily again. According to the block log, you seem to be refusing to keep the range blocked, and instead saying "Just revert the vandalism then". The entire reason for the block in the first place was that the vandalism was unmanageable, to the rate of dozens of pages of vandalism per day per IP. It is unacceptable for you to expect other editors to mop up the mess from the vandalism range just so that you don't have to keep unblocking and re-blocking the range. I would like to know why your position regarding this IP range has changed. -- Renesis13 16:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

You wrote:

12 vandalisms per day? Oh no, how terrible. </sarcasm> Have you every been in the vandalism channel? About that much comes in every 2 minutes. 12 is a very small amount comparatively. Also, how much do I unblock, once every two days? It's reblocked pretty soon anyway so I don't really see much of an issue. I feel that something is being made of nothing here, impacting me in the process. Plus, I often revert vandalism to pages of my watchlist at school, when I see it. Probably a few a day. This, and any good article editing or commenting I do, surely cancels out 12 vandalisms each day? --Celestianpower háblame 17:11, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

So surely you're in support of not blocking any IP addresses at all? ("</sarcasm>") If you reread my comment I said dozens per day per IP address. So, several hundred per day—on an isolated, blockable IP range. It doesn't matter that the range gets blocked again "pretty soon"—you have the ability given to you to unblock IP addresses because it was determined that you would use the ability for the benefit of Wikipedia. Back when this was being discussed, all other editors felt an indefinite block was needed. You volunteered to unblock and reblock yourself, not to unblock and then wait for vandalism to occur, then wait longer for Curps to instate another 30 minute to 3 hour block. Back in December when I went through all 30+ IPs cleaning up the vandalism, there were several bad-faith subtle edits and other vandalizations that had gone totally unnoticed. I never had a problem with you unblocking temporarily during the time you would be editing. I only have a problem with you dropping the issue that was only resolved based on your agreement, and letting the flood of manageable vandalism come back in. -- Renesis13 17:23, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

You wrote:

I see. Okay, I now understand you and see your point. Sorry for my uncivility. I don't really know what to do about it then - I suppose I'll have to not edit from school, how moronic. Whatever happened to that proposal to distinguish between IP edits and accounts - surely that would solve all of my problems. --Celestianpower ^háblame 17:28, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Are you able to unblock just when you need to edit and then reinstate the block? It seems like it was going pretty well for a while. About that proposal, it seems to me that it would be an obvious decision —registered users should always be allowed to edit (especially sys-ops!) unless they are specifically blocked, also. The proposal seems to still be active and I voted my strong support of it today. Also, I appreciate the apology and apologize if I came across as attacking. -- Renesis13 17:36, 29 March 2006 (UTC)== GA Trouble ==

Oh just great

Hey Cel, I'm in kind of a mix up, someone's shouted at me and I'm wanting a second opinion on whether I deserved it.

I recently added Torchic to the Good Article nomination page, and have judged a couple of articles while I was waiting for someone to rate Torchic. I've not had any trouble with my decisions (I've had three with no troubles) until I did the Queen (band) article today.

Although it's a good article, I did fail and gave it a thorough reason (I'm kinda over critical times), but I was fair and tried to stay objective. I wrote this: Talk:Queen (band)#Good Article Failure.

This evening I received a message from the nominee saying:

I don't buy your failure for one second. You judged it on intenstely high standards. Okay, so there were a couple of grammar usages you didn't like. That just means the article isn't ready to become Featured. The assertation that a few sentences that you felt could be improved mean that the article isn't good is ridiculous. Some of the complaints aren't even valid - why should I define terms such as "arena rock" and "glam rock" within the article? They have separate pages! That's what they're for! Adding defenitions would simply lower the quality of the article. The article is absolutely a good article - I'm putting it back up for nomination right now, and I ask you to not to judge it (or any other article nominated to become good) any more, because you do not seem to be clear on the difference between "good" and "Featured". TheImpossibleMan 19:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm kinda shaken up (I replied on his talk page saying): So just because you disagree with my decision you're telling me not to participate in the process again? I'm sorry but that is nothing short of personal attack! I would happily award the article good if you adapted it but this is not a good article status article! I have read Beatles article are of much a higher standard, I reccommend you read some of them before harassing other users! Highway 19:53, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Probably not the best of ideas, but I'm really mad.. and upset, though I know I shouldn't be. Could you reply back to what I should do, I'm feeling really bad. Thanks, Highway 20:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I just received:

* I encourage you to actually read my statements before concluding that I'm harassing you and making personal attacks. At no point in my above statment did I disparage you personally. I simply did (and do) think that you're holding articles to far too high a standard.

Additionally, you may not realize this, but the Beatles are, by far, the highest maintained group on English Wikipedia. There are literally over a dozen Beatles-related articles that are Featured, and some (such as the Sgt. Pepper's article) are just short of being Featured. Even more, read articles like Something, then tell me that the Queen article isn't even good. TheImpossibleMan 20:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not replying until I know whether to keep going or to hide.. Highway 20:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for replying, I'm feeling better now, especially since Corbin just failed it again XD. I think the PA came from the telling me not to review anything, which felt pretty bad, but I will look into it. The guy could use some grammar usage tips though XD, Thanks Highway 22:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalbot?

Hi, Celestianpower, I see you and I blocked 209.123.28.250 at the exact same moment, and both for 31 hours, too. I've asked about their editing speed here on WP:ANI, please check it out. What do you think? A bot? Could they be blocked for longer? Bishonen | talk 17:42, 30 March 2006 (UTC).

Torchic

WE PASSED! : P I'm grinning at the moment, it passed! Okay, it was a user I haven't come across, but they appear to have very good judgement (I was trundling through everything) and OH my god!! I'm so annoyingly happy : P Anyway, just to let you know, but this a good step, see you later. Yay! Highway 23:53, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

List of words mainly used in American English

Apology accepted. Nothing wrong with deleting incorrect entries, just so long as people know they are incorrect. Unfortunately, as fast as some are deleted, they are replaced by other editors. I'd suggest that rather than just deleting the text, this is a case where commenting it out makes sense, with an explanation, as it signals to later editors they need not bother putting it back in. WLD 14:39, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Image question.

Sorry to bother you on something so trivial, but you were the first username I saw. I asked someone to help me out and do something with a few pictures because I was having trouble doing it myself. The following two pictures, he says, look exactly the same (the way I wanted it), but it doesn't look that way on my computer, signifying that the upload didn't work properly. Could you just give me a quick yes/no as to whether the two pictures are the same?

• commons:Image:Olympic flag.svg
• Image:Flag of the Olympic Movement.svg

Thanks a bunch! → J@red  03:32, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I know CP is sleeping right now, so I'm taking the liberty of answering. Yes they are the same, and I've had this problem before, make sure you do a hard refresh between uploads, otherwise the old image will dispaly, making you think you haven't done it correctly. Good luck, pschemp | talk 04:29, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello Celestianpower, how are you? Thanks for your support in my RFA. The final vote count was (88/3/1), so I am now an administrator. I am very humbled by your vote and grateful. Please let me know if at any stage you require assistance, or if you have comments on how I am doing as an administrator. Once again thank you and with kind regards Gryffindor 17:24, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your vote of confidence in my recent request for bureaucratship. Even though it didn't pass, I greatly appreciate your support and hope I will continue to have your respect. Thank you! Flcelloguy (A note?) 22:52, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

You currently on IRC?

Are you currently on IRC? I need to discuss something with you about admission to Esperanza. NSLE _(T+C) at 09:24 UTC (2006-04-03)

My RfA

Hello Celestianpower: Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 77/3/0. I hope I can perform at the standards expected for administrators. If I make any mistakes, or you need anything, please let me know. Prodego talk 01:15, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Bulbasaur

The narration is Ok...but its quality is quite low as it is very soft. Thanks--Tdxiang 陈 鼎 翔 (Talk)Contributions Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 09:40, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Starfleet ranks and insignia

I am currently underfire on this featured list candidacy with issues regarding copyrights.

I and other wikipedians recreated rank images that appeared on Star Trek listed at Starfleet ranks and insignia. The curent contravercy is weather or not should the recreation be considered a derivate work.

In my view simple geometric shapes (a circle or 4) cannot be copyrighted. And copyright concerns enter a grey are at best if not being examples of Copyright Paranoia.

I can understand if you prefer to stay away but I was wondering what do you thought regardless.

--Cool Cat^Talk|@ 17:18, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Something odd

Oh, look at that. I'm absolutely baffled as to how it got there. -Zero^Talk 16:29, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

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Stressed?

Hey, I noticed your last few changes. I'm sorry you feel that way, I hope you'll feel better soon. --JoanneB 22:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Something for the stress? --GraemeL ^(talk) 22:37, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

thank you

For copy editing my statement. ILovEPlankton 12:55, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Borrowed commas

Sometime back I borrowed two commas off of your user page - I took very good care of them and they have now grown up (one is semicolon and the other a percentile) and are proud parents of their own little commas - I would now like to return them to you with their offspring (principally because they are keeping me awake at night) ; % ,,,,, --Alf ^melmac 12:31, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Pokémon

I have no clue what to do... the pictures are still in the archives (heheh) but I normally write everything on the Sunday.. which I didn't because I was unsure. Personally, I'd rather not update it without pictures and leave it where it is until this is sorted out. Thoughts? Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 12:35, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

A KISS Rfa Thanks

Thank you, I've been promoted. pschemp | talk 01:03, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

Thanks for your vote.

Hi, this is Matt Yeager. I wanted to thank you for your vote on my request for adminship. The count was something like was 14/20/5 when I decided to withdraw the request. My decision was based on the fact that there are enough things wasting people's time on the Internet that doomed RFA's shouldn't be kept up for voters to have to think about. Regardless of the rationale behind your vote, I hope you will read this note for an extended note and discussion on what will happen before I make another try at adminship (I didn't want to clog up your userpage with drivel that you might not be interested in reading). Thank you very, very much for your vote and your time and consideration of my credentials--regardless of whether you voted support, nuetral, or oppose. Happy editing! Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 01:29, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

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You can partake in the meeting here.

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Charizard

Congratulations. An article that you nominated has achieved Good Article status. You can view my evaluation on the talk page. - Corbin ∫ 1 ɱ p s ɔ ♫ ^{Rock on, dude!} 18:26, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you! Hello Celestianpower. Thank you for your support in my RfA! It passed with a final tally of 91/3/5. I am quite humbled and pleased by the community's show of confidence in me. If you need help or just want to talk, let me know. Cheers! -- Fang Aili 說嗎?

Torchic

I thought it was good, but I never thought it would survive FAC.. I've not been here long enough to be able to combat everyone's opinions (there are a lot of Pokéhaters) and I'm hated by a lot of people. I always thought that people respected you and the fact that you nominated it meant something to those people, something I can't do.. I may, but I just get the feeling it'll get creamed.. I may though, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 19:07, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Should I? 19:49, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll do it by tonight, I'm currently working on Pikachu and it'll easily slide through GA by Friday. And I found out that we can't have the pictures on the portal.. great. Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 19:58, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Done, can it be found here. If you have any like harems in your house, this would be a good time to make them get accounts.. Thank you for the shove, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 21:07, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't think even read the whole article, oh well.. I'm doing them now. Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 21:57, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

It's fine, I enjoy any comments that aren't me being screamed at (which is often). I've managed to find the rule on illegal evolutions (you have no idea the horror that is pokémon-tcg.com :P) and I'll keep looking. Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 23:19, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Aha! I have outwitted Krill! I quote the Wikipedia policy -

"An edit counts as original research if it proposes ideas or arguments. That is, if it does any of the following:

It introduces a theory or method of solution;"

According to this I am allowed to write ""...most likely because of its initial popularity alongside the release of Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire"... now that seem flawless! ¬_¬ Tell me why it isn't. Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 23:25, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

The Pokéhaters have arrived... Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 23:36, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

It's just typical. I think I've fixed up either all or most of Kirill's quibbles (try saying that fast :P) so that's less trouble. I hope he comes back to check up, it's just our luck he won't. Do you think I should remove the note to the sprite designs? Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 23:49, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Cel - 1...0 - Pokéhaters hehe :P I'll move it down to External (I added the Bulbapedia stuff there too). I'm still looking for stuff that says Torchic is a hard starter. I'm also still looking for something that says you can pick a starter Pokémon at the start :S Maybe people think it's obvious? Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 00:01, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Tell that to Krill.. we're so going down "you haven't explained it's fictional enough".. yes, I know what he means. Just yesterday I was walking down the street and a fire-breathing chicken hopped pass me and attacked an OAP! :O Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 00:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Problems;

• personality disorder Pokémonhaters abound
• we're screwed
• someone deleted the Pokémon Abilities article... template broken

Thoughts? Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 09:19, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I meant the infobox.. the links is now red in around 200 articles. Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 10:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, by the way, when is your masterpiece arriving? :P Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 10:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

What still needs done? It'd be easier to see if we could strike out the stuff we've done, but like that'll happen. Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 10:48, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm beginning to feel out of my depth :P The only thing I can think of doing is adding more citation, I don't know how to deal with the other problems without more expansion.. Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 11:29, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Why did you revert my edit? It was to my comment.... Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 13:14, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I see you've nominating more article for GA recently, any particular reason? I guess we do have some good articles we need to find, I think Weedle is nearly there too]]. Cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 13:28, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'm working on it now. Could you upload a screenshot of something? I think they're getting mad because of the lack of pictures. Pikachu is nearly ready too, it needs the Cultural Impact to be written. There's notes but I've been doing everything else in it. (How many fecking manga series is that rat it?) I found another this morning... great :P By the way, how can we get Bulbasaur onto the main page if it's fair use? I know Spoo did but I don't know about the image.. Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 13:59, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Where do you shop? :P Kirill's problems have all been sorted (he disagreed with you.. there's a suprise.) Cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 14:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

For such toys.. nevermind. Warning, someone is taking the rip out of the Pokédex entry. I have a lovely response to him since he's taking all of that out context but I shouldn't probably argue.. thoughts? (PS - Can I start a new topic?) Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 14:41, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank god! I was getting sick of colons. Cool, Woolworths never has stuff like that now :P I probably shouldn't post it.. meh I'm past caring, ALoan tried as hard as he could to fail Bulbasaur and now he's judging Torchic against it. I wonder how long it'll take TA to arrive. Any ideas? Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 14:49, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry but you're just making a mockery out of this. You're pulling this all right out of context!

"That is why their wings are clipped, you see, to stop then flying." Fine, I am sorry I didn't look this up, but haven't you heard of poetic liscence? (Nintendo not me)

"aerial battler" It has the words "Rather Than" infront of it. This is referring to when it evolves, or changes, into a stronger form, and you might think it would evolve into like an eagle or something similar, but it doesn't. Which is why the sentence reads: "and as it evolves into its later forms, Combusken and Blaziken, claws slowly protrude from the ends of its wings, making it a vicious fighter, rather than an aerial battler."

"It has a sac deep within its stomach, in which churns a super-heated fire, allowing it to give literal warm hugs to its trainers. This power also serves as its ammunition in battles." Fine, I'm not sure about the grammar, but adding it on at the end just sound right.. It is obvious that it's referring to the fire..

" The drawing and sprite design of Torchic was created by Ken Sugimori's team for its 2003 release on the Nintendo Game Boy Advance" That was moved from the intro to there, if you could suggest a better place for it we would love your view on the matter. Personally, that sentence is important, primarily because Bulbasaur was said to have a lack of information on the "Making Of" side of Bulbasaur.

I'm not going on because you are just making a mockery of this article. And for the last time, I know that Torchic and Bulbasaur are loosely connected, but just because they are you shouldn't compare with "drag of an article" with the beloved turtle with a pot plant attatched to its spine! FAC is supposed to judge an article based on itself, not another.

Oh well.. I stil don't like him.. he was just taking the rip out of it.. should I cite Torchic being in Trozei, pinball etc? Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 14:54, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Anime, which is the only time it speaks. The call thing is from the Pokédex. I actually just threw it together because I was reading the old Bulby noms and I found the list of basic questions the article should answer. And one was "How does it talk?" so I just put that together. The rest of that paragraph is also from questions from the old nom. The manga Pokémon Cham-Chamo Pretty is actually named after Torchic's Japanese call "Chamo".. apparently. Cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 15:01, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

PS - What do I do about the design stuff? Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 15:04, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I've changed "flightless wings" to "weak wings" and I rewrote that paragraph to:

When Torchic communicates to other characters in the Pokémon anime, the only instance of Torchic actually speaking, it speaks by calling out in it's own unique language, which is comprised of the syllables "Tor" and "Chic".

It's still in the videogames section, which isn't the best place but I move it to the anime, that leaves a one sentence paragraph.. I'll look to see where I can shove the evolution thing and I'll move it down soon. And I'll move the design back up. Any other thoughts? Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 15:19, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Or you know, you could do it XD Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 15:20, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Another "deletee", just great. If it isn't "this isn't as good as Bulbasaur" it's "DELETE! DELETE!".. *breaths* We're doing fine. I should really stop bugging you :P Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 15:50, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

"Yes, I'm doing fine" or "Yes, I'm bugging you"? *laughs* Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 15:54, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

So, how is Esperanza going? I was designing userbox templates for the Barnstar Brigade, which have been accepted as okay. Elections going well? Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 16:09, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Kirill has replied, and he's taken away the minor object. He did note about the Books and DVDs, among other things, how exactly do you cite DVDs? I just took an educated guess from the books. Cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 16:41, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I just the PCP tag :D Dear lord, what have you started.. I'm going to have to base "Pokémon of the Week!" on your toy collection, aren't I? :P Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 18:06, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Meh, Titox is starting to be a pain, which is my job. I actually think he's trying to turn it into a fanpage... Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 21:51, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Perfect Dark

Your wish is my command :) Soo 15:35, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Editing others comments?

H! Excuse me, but I do not understand what you meant by <don't edit others comments>. Could you explain me, please? Thanks a lot, NorbertArthur 13 April 2006