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:: ... which may change as more sources become available. The source cited in the article, doollee.com, does not look particularly reliable; I would prefer ''Tradition!'' by Barbara Isenberg, but it is not yet available in my country. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 19:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
:: ... which may change as more sources become available. The source cited in the article, doollee.com, does not look particularly reliable; I would prefer ''Tradition!'' by Barbara Isenberg, but it is not yet available in my country. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 19:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
:::There is a significant excerpt from Tradition at http://us.macmillan.com/excerpt?isbn=9780312591427 that includes the quote <blockquote>The book writers, or librettists, on musicals are often underappreciated, and Harnick felt Stein was among them. Said Harnick, “Some of the critics praised him, but others said he had such an easy job—all he had to do was to quote the stories. But there were very few lines that he could use. There were some. But I would say that ninety-five percent of the show, he had to invent. It was all Joe Stein.”</blockquote> A good start, I think.[[User:Naraht|Naraht]] ([[User talk:Naraht|talk]]) 19:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
:::There is a significant excerpt from Tradition at http://us.macmillan.com/excerpt?isbn=9780312591427 that includes the quote <blockquote>The book writers, or librettists, on musicals are often underappreciated, and Harnick felt Stein was among them. Said Harnick, “Some of the critics praised him, but others said he had such an easy job—all he had to do was to quote the stories. But there were very few lines that he could use. There were some. But I would say that ninety-five percent of the show, he had to invent. It was all Joe Stein.”</blockquote> A good start, I think.[[User:Naraht|Naraht]] ([[User talk:Naraht|talk]]) 19:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
:After reading the alleged Harry Stein's initial comment, I did some research and found that his claims seemed to be true. See http://us.macmillan.com/excerpt?isbn=9780312591427.

"The book writers, or librettists, on musicals are often underappreciated, and Harnick felt Stein was among them. Said Harnick, “Some of the critics praised him, but others said he had such an easy job—all he had to do was to quote the stories. But there were very few lines that he could use. There were some. But I would say that ninety-five percent of the show, he had to invent. It was all Joe Stein.”

I changed the wording to reflect this and kept the original reference, while adding this one. '''[[User:Derstacker|<span style="color: green">Derstacker</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Derstacker|talk]]) 21:59, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

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    September 21

    question about photo

    I took the photo at File:CDC 8600 mockup.jpg, cropped it slightly, and improved the lighting and color. It happens that the size of the JPG got larger in the process. The file is still very small and of low resolution. An editor came along and said that it should be smaller. Do I need to get the JPEG smaller, or is it OK as it is? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 01:21, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't know if you noticed, but the file was tagged with "non free reduce" template shortly after you uploaded the revised version. That tag mentions "In most cases, this reduction will occur automatically: simply wait 24 hours and a robot will resize the image file." –with instructions as to what can be done if that does not occur. So, wait a day or so and see what happens. 71.20.250.51 (talk) 04:51, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, I saw that. However, the file is very small and low-resolution anyway. I think it got tagged for reduction simply because my modification happened to be a larger JPEG file. The resolution of the revised one is no better than the original. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 07:00, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Twinkle

    I have been told about the tool Twinkle. What exactly does Twinkle do? And if I want to use it, how do I activate it? The Chemistry Bookworm (talk) 06:14, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you seen the page Wikipedia:Twinkle? There should be enough detail there to get you started; if not, post back here. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:21, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    It is a great tool - check it out. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 07:02, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Am I blind? I can't see on that page what Twinkle actually does.Kdammers (talk) 11:16, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    What about the second sentence of the lede on that page?
    "It provides users with three types of rollback functions and includes a full library of speedy deletion functions, user warnings and welcomes, maintenance tags, semi-automatic reporting of vandals, and much, much more."
    --David Biddulph (talk) 11:45, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Why is Special:Getting started is placed?

    Special:Getting started is a special page that dosen't exists, so you might as well change the link or remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipedian 2 (talkcontribs) 07:01, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Did you see a link to it from a page somewhere? If so, which page? Special:SpecialPages doesn't show it in the list of created special pages. CaptRik (talk) 09:46, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you mean Special:GettingStarted linked at Help:Special page#Miscellaneous? It's a former part of an extension for new users. The extension is still installed but no longer uses the special page as far as I know so the link should probably be removed. It was removed from the extension documentation in February.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 11:45, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Proper venue

    I redirected Joseph DeLuca (racing driver) to United Airlines Flight 93 because I did not judge him to be independently notable, and IMO WP:ONEEVENT and WP:NOTMEMORIAL apply. (See my rationale at User talk:Clarityfiend#Joseph DeLuca.) However, that has been reverted by User:Taram. AfD doesn't seem to be quite the right place to go, or is it? Or is there some more suitable place to get this resolved? Clarityfiend (talk) 10:12, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    The article has been nominated for deletion. AFD is the proper venue, and redirect is a valid !vote that amounts to a mostly-deletion. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:29, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Now that I think about it, redirecting doesn't seem appropriate anyway. Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:33, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Userboxes

    How can i make an userbox?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrainSimFan (talkcontribs) 20:08, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    With {{Userbox}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:24, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm working on an article that will list articles on work done by the person involved.... some have direct links to the entire issue of the magazine containing the article in question, others to the actual page, but some include a list to the home page of the publishers, with the first paragraph of the article and require visitors to register (free) to read the entire article - can I include this last type of link?ScozzeseVolante (talk) 22:27, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, ScozzeseVolante. Yes, you may reference sources which are behind paywalls, if they are reliable sources which support the facts you are using them for. --ColinFine (talk) 22:47, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Unidentifiable cite error, revisited

    Unable to find the cause of Cite error: A list-defined reference with group name "lower-alpha" is not used in the content, here. Need to correct the error to remove the article from an error tracking category.

    This is a similar error to the one addressed here on September 16. John of Reading's strategy for locating the error doesn't work in this case because the error goes away in "Show preview". I looked at the one {{efn}} and all {{sfn}}'s in the article; if any is inside ref tags as in the earlier case, I can't see it. ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 23:31, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I copied to one of my subpages and the error did not show. Purged the article and it went away. Go figure. --  Gadget850 talk 00:17, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. +1 trick. ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 00:23, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]


    September 22

    Balzan F.C.

    I would like to upload Balzan FC's new logo, but I don not seem able to as I am not a confirmed user. Also the kit colour needs updating. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robmgt (talkcontribs) 00:39, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Balzan F.C. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
    The best place to take this up would be the Talk page for the article at Talk:Balzan F.C.. Dismas|(talk) 00:53, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Talk:Balzan F.C. would be the place to discuss whether to do this; but Robmgt's question is about how to do it.
    He is not a confirmed user, so he can't upload an image to English Wikipedia. But if he has an image unrestricted by copyright, he can he can upload it to Wikimedia Commons – which is a better place for it anyway. Maproom (talk) 14:24, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    John Lester Miller

    I am an author of 4 books, over 100 papers and numerous patents. McGraw Hill and many others have requested that I have a Biography site.

    The problem is there is one for a judge, and whenever I try to deconflict it, I get all my content removed. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.223.169.122 (talk) 01:41, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I think they mean that you should get your own website and put biographical info on it. Wikipedia is not a website hosting service, we only create articles on people if they warrant an article and there are enough sources to support it. - X201 (talk) 08:59, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    You should not be creating or attempting to create a page about yourself or otherwise inserting any content into Wikipedia articles about yourself. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:51, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    You can. however, go to the request an article page and make a suggestion there. It would help if you provided reliably published sources not affiliated with you that would help establish that you meet the basic requirements for being the subject of a stand alone article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:56, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    He appears to be this John Lester Miller, not the John Lester Miller who is a deceased judge. It's out of my area of expertise, so I can't tell if he qualifies as an academic. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:01, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    urgent incorrect content about Demet Muftuoglu.

    Can you please contact me there is an urgent issue about an incorrect content about Demet Muftuoglu.

    Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.96.35.74 (talk) 08:47, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia doesn't contact you, you can use this page, or if its private info that needs removing, contact Oversight. Is this about the unreferenced advertising spiel that was rejected yesterday? - X201 (talk) 09:03, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I think that the definition of False Cognate is wrong in the article about False Cognate.

    I think that the definition of False Cognate is wrong in this article. This is what I found searching the internet, and please, if you found a credible source showing I'm wrong please respond because I'm going crazy with this.

    The article states: False cognates are pairs of words in the same or different languages that are similar in form and meaning but have different roots.

    While a more correct definition would be: False cognates are pairs of words in the same or different languages that are similar in form but have different roots and meaning.

    And there's also a lot of confusion about the difference of False Cognate and False Friend even with dictionaries like Macmillan Dictionary using both terms as the same with the definition of "a word in a language that looks or sounds similar to a word in another language but means something different". [1] and this article that is hosted by Brown, but I don't know if it's a article from them or they are just hosting.

    The difference is that although both False Cognate and False Friend are similar words with different meaning, False Cognate don't have common origin while False Friend could have. It's like... all False Cognate are False Friend but not all False Friend are False Cognate. The problem is that my research in English either came with articles saying they are the same, or articles quoting the difference given in this article from wikipedia, witch does not have a source for the definition given, like this one from Princeton, that is just a copy of the wikipedia page.


    One example of False Friend would be the word Fabric in English with the word Fábrica in Portuguese that means Factory, they have the same root, the word Fabrica in Latin but different meaning.

    One example of False Cognate would be the word Cute in English with the word Cute in Portuguese that means Skin, they are the same word with different roots, Cute in English being the Latin word Acutus while the Portuguese Cute being the Latin word Cutis.


    The articles that I found supporting my claim is not in English, being the most comprehensive one this article in Portuguese. But since this terms were created in French, with the meaning being the same in almost every language, I don't think would be a problem. Mateusmat (talk) 13:00, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    References

    @Mateusmat: Hey Mateusmat. Have you tried targeting books and scholarly research rather than a web search which does not tend to concentrate reliable sources? See searches like this and this. If you do indeed find the definition is incorrect you can cite a few of them when you revise the article. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:09, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    @Fuhghettaboutit: Hi... thanks for answering... I had found this articles before actually that could help, but I can't read it because I can't access it without a membership or paying 35 dollars. Mateusmat (talk) 13:38, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mateusmat: You could ask for someone to provide a copy of the article to you at Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request. Even though articles are sometimes posted online for a short duration, they are often emailed and I see yours is not enabled. So, I suggest before making a request there, that you go to your preferences, scroll down to Email options at the bottom of the page, enter an email address, confirm it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:07, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    staigue fort entry

    Re. Staigue Fort entry: if it's 'Iron Age' then it can't be '300 AD'! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.227.133.179 (talk) 14:34, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    The place for this comment is the talk page, Talk:Staigue stone fort. However, are you saying that 300 AD was not in the Iron Age in Ireland? Robert McClenon (talk) 15:38, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    The Iron Age isn't set in stone (or, cast in iron) it means different dates in different places. - X201 (talk) 15:44, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    There are a number of different estimates for the age of the fort, but see Irish Iron Age for the Iron Age dates in Ireland. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:56, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    And the Irish Iron Age is listed as approximately 500 BC to 400 AD. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:57, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I owned a website. Whether i can put article of my business in wikipedia.. If possible could you explain

    I owned a website. Whether i can put article of my business in wikipedia.. If possible could you explain — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fantasyhome (talkcontribs) 15:16, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Almost certainly no. There are two issues. The first is general notability guidelines. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a directory. We will only write an article about your web site or business if it is "notable", meaning that it has been written about by independent reliable sources. Second, even if your business is notable, for you to write an article about it would violate conflict of interest guidelines. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:31, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    And if the name of that website is "fantasyhome", you should also change your username. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:48, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    ethical to add something you have authored

    Assuming it's brief, is it kosher for me add a little relevant info to a page, from a published source that I wrote? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capuchinpilates (talkcontribs) 16:52, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    The answer depends on whether you consider the addition to be ethical or questionable. Ask "What would my white haired old mother whom I love say?" If the answer is that it is ethical then consider doing so. If mum gives you the thumbs down, walk away. But it is better to make a request on the article's talk page for the addition to be made. There is a template to use to assist you, {{Request edit}}, whcih you place above your request. Fiddle Faddle 17:14, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    For more general info about the topic of conflicts of interest while editing, see WP:COI. Dismas|(talk) 19:02, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    HOW TO IMPROVE THE WEB-PAGE

    Hello,

    I have edited the wiki page of Sanjay Sarma.

    How to get this reviewed and remove the warning tag? Phidemit (talk) 18:50, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phidemit (talkcontribs) 18:45, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    IMHO he passes WP:PROF so I have removed the tag.--ukexpat (talk) 18:56, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding image to infobox

    How can you add a small image at the end of an infobox? I am trying to add the BBB accredited charity logo at the end of an infobox and am having trouble. Thank you in advance. Swaugaman (talk) 19:27, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Ibox parameters are "hard-coded" into the ibox template so it would be easier to just add it as a separate image below the ibox. But another question: what purpose would the image serve in the article? Just advertising that it is BBB-accredited? Not sure that would be appropriate.--ukexpat (talk) 19:58, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Merging 2 usernames

    I imprudently have 2 usernames, both with over 20 edits, and would like to merge them under a new username. I hear it can't be done, is this still the case? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capuchinpilates (talkcontribs) 21:17, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    It is true that you can't merge them, but you can put a note on each of the user pages to declare the link to the other. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:32, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Where is my course page?

    Hi! I am embarrassed to ask this, but I am a relatively new user and I set up a course page for my students, who will be writing and editing wikipedia as part of an assignment. For the life of me I cannot find the page, even after logging in. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, ~brownels — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brownels (talkcontribs) 21:29, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Is User:Brownels/course_wizard/Timeline what you're looking for? Hint: Clicking "Contributions" at the top right of the page will give you a list of every edit made by your username, most recent first. ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 21:33, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brownels (talkcontribs) 21:34, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]


    September 23

    Death of editor

    I have come across a reliable source that indicates a Wikipedia editor has died. Is there any custom about whether to note this on the user's page? Jc3s5h (talk) 00:35, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians may help you. Often, impromptu memorials and well-wishers sometimes show up on Wikipedian's user pages as well. --Jayron32 01:01, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Removing citation after an episode airs

    I have had this question for months. This is about referencing for TV shows. This is becoming a current issue on Dancing with the Stars (U.S. season 19). I know Wikipedia has many guidelines and policies about citing, but this is kind of logical. When adding a source for a dance, for instance, for a specific couple, we add the source. But this has been done and practiced on other pages as well (including DWTS) that when an episode airs we remove the source citing the dance they did. Considering it was seen on live TV by approximately 13-15 million U.S. viewers, is it necessary to cite the dances after the episode has aired? The scores are already referenced, is it really necessary to repeat it again. Also, this has been done on other TV shows. When an episode has been aired, the responsible crew for the episode, the sources are removed. For instance, Pretty Little Liars, Grey's Anatomy, and A LOT MORE. This should apply to already danced dance routines and the page itself, no? A know editor (to me anyways, they've contributed with 43,000 edits) has said this themself (skip to the third message in the beginning). "An aired episode is in itself a sufficient reference for its own content," they said, and I quote.

    My final question (it's kind of mixed in my message): should the dances be referenced after the episode has aired? (This applies to scores, music, etc.)

    I asked this question because an editor has been messing with the page, so I wanted to clear this out. An editor has made a point that can viewed on my talk page. Please ignore the personal opinion about the specific person.

    And if you are going to answer no, please cite the policy in your answer so I can reference my edits.

    Admins would be preferable to answer, please. (If you're not, it's fine)

    Thanks,

    Callmemirela (talk) 02:44, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I cannot, for the life of me, imagine where removing a reliable source is more helpful to our readers. Yes, there is some information for which we are less demanding of sources (for example, plot summaries are generally assumed to be sourced to the work itself, because, duh). However, I've never heard of anyone arguing that a source should be removed to be replaced with nothing where sources already exist. I'm perplexed by any argument that says "This source was great yesterday, but today we don't need it anymore". --Jayron32 03:08, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Jayron32 I quite disagree. If an episode has been aired and the dance was done in public view and citation is needed, summaries should too. A summary can easily turn into fan fiction as well. The directors and writers responsible for the episode is never referenced after an episode airs. Neither should the DWTS with the scores, dances, music, etc. Those responsible for the episodes have their name written on TV, so were the scores. It can be easily seen. Why does the citation only apply to DWTS if the regular episodes from EVERY TV show does not do so as well. TV episode titles are never referenced either, well because it it's been confirmed and stuff. So have the scores, dances and music for DWTS. I personally disagree with that argument. If TV shows aren't referenced with those responsible for TV shows and the episode's summary, neither should the dances and scores after the episode has aired. Look at The Voice. The contestants, the judge's picks and the contestant's pick are neither referenced. It's one or another. This citation policy cannot be applied to just DWTS' information but not other TV shows. That is quite unfair. Callmemirela (talk) 03:41, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Removing the references is not a practice that falls under WP:V, since the information is now presented without a reference. Using Template:Cite episode is an alternative and accepted practice to cite information presented during the broadcast of a television episode. However, as references exist for the information, removing those references after the episode has aired is not aligned WP:IMPROVE. AldezD (talk) 03:11, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    A source that says "Tarzan and Jane have been signed for the upcoming season of Yet Another Unreality Show coming next month" cannot be a source for the article to state "Tarzan and Jane participated season 16 of Yet Another Unreality Show "; while the TV show itself (even if watched only by one person) is primary source that can verify that they appeared. A third party source that says "Last nights appearance of Tarzan and Jane on Yet Another Unreality Show ..." would still be better.
    the dances scores music etc- while they can generally formally be cited to the primary source of the show itself- generally are merely WP:UNDUE coverage of WP:FANCRUFT and WP:TRIVIA based on the primary sources and Wikipedia editor's obsessions rather than what the third party reliable sources have deemed the important (a term used really loosely) about the subject. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:21, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Leaving a message

    Hello, how are you?

    I am having difficulty in trying to leave a message to one of my classmates?

    Thanks ––Lolalore (talk) 05:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Dear Lolalore, Wikipedia is not a social networking service like Facebook or Twitter. You can talk to other Wikipedia users about creating an encyclopedia by using using talk pages. -- Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 05:52, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi, Lolalore, and welcome to Wikipedia! I see you have been using your user pages to learn how to use Wikipedia syntax – I wish more new editors would do that before starting to make "live" edits. Anyway, if your classmate has registered an account with Wikipedia, and you know their username, you go to their "talk page" and add your message at the bottom. Your own talk page, for example, has the URL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lolalore and can be linked to here as User talk:Lolalore. Maproom (talk) 07:04, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    @Maproom: I've corrected the error in the URL, which could only cause confusion. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:53, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Unidentifiable cite error caused by cite doi

    This article has an error message, Cite error: A list-defined reference has no name, in its References section. The error goes away when a ref, <ref name=Zhu2008>{{cite doi|10.1182/blood-2008-05-078154}}</ref>, is removed from the end of the second paragraph in this section. I need to correct the error to remove the article from an error tracking category, but I don't know how to do so. ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 06:49, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Mandruss, the problem was in using the cite doi template. I have replaced this by a handwritten version [2], which removes the error. Also since this source was in there a couple of times already I made them all into a single ref. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 07:44, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, but I was looking for a better understanding, a la teach a man to fish.
    • Do all uses of cite doi produce this error? If not, what was different about this case that did?
    • Was it impossible to correct the error while still using cite doi? If so, why?
    • How did you determine what to replace the cite doi with? ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 07:53, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    The problem was at Template:Cite doi/10.1182.2Fblood-2008-05-078154 and not in the article. A bot didn't fill in the citation as it should and a user tried to fix it but didn't know how. The bot has since been fixed according to User talk:Citation bot/Archive1#Bot dev575 is failing to retrieve citation information for DOI citations (1 MB page, you don't need to read it). PrimeHunter (talk) 08:57, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, PrimeHunter. If I understand you correctly, it would have been better to correct the template and leave the article alone. What correction is required to the template? ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 09:41, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I reverted the edits which broke the template, & the citation bot has filled in the remaining detail, so the template now looks OK. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:30, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I reverted the article changes and the error is gone. Thanks. ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 11:37, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Fishing

    The best time to go fishing, is every chance you get. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.177.118.215 (talk) 08:23, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, but what is your question about how to use or edit Wikipedia. —teb728 t c 08:30, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    HELP me, please I was only selfish......the name of your site has rendered use of my computer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I chose to go into much of a curiosity location the information you say you have within your organization and access to requisite is quality...this is true for me. I cannot even retrieve my very important data that I have stored information. I want to have you correct the access Your computer that renders my Wikipedia source MY data us and then you must send the data you have that belongs to ME!

    Lynn Edward Ganze cell number is (Redacted)

    Please: unlock my computer and then make a an attempt to send me a response to your work you think you will have done for Me!

    Lynn Ganze (Redacted) write me a note that explains all this work you have chosen make amends.


    Thank you so very much,

    Lynn Ganze — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:9503:C100:6874:B895:58C9:9753 (talk) 10:41, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Any data on Wikipedia is not yours, it is content that has been generated by Wikipedia editors (perhaps even including you) and has been released under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License (see the agreement at the bottom of every submit page "By clicking the "Save page" button, you agree to the Terms of Use and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL with the understanding that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient for CC BY-SA 3.0 attribution." Wikipedia does not lock your computer, although your editing of Wikipedia may be restricted or blocked for violations of various Wikipedia policies-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:11, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Balzan FC kit colour

    I would like to update the kit colour of Balzan FC from a current all red top (FF0000) to a horizontal red and white striped top. Please advise.

    I would also like to show Balzan's second kit. This is all dark blue with a small white and red horizontal stripe in the chest area. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robmgt (talkcontribs) 12:52, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    In the section #Balzan F.C. above, it was suggested that you raise your query at Talk:Balzan F.C.. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:02, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Encyclopedia

    How do I submit an artist biography for wikipedia Encyclopedia inclusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calliope22llc (talkcontribs) 15:40, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    You have already submitted your draft at User:Calliope22llc/sandbox, presumably by using the green "submit" button in the box at the top of the draft. It is therefore in the queue for review, but the result of the review is entirely predictable. You have no references to reliable sources (published, & independent of the subject) to demonstrate that the subject meets Wikipedia's requirement for notability, & specifically WP:Music. You also need to ensure that the article doesn't appear promotional. It must also not be a copyright violation by repeating information already published elsewhere. In this case the draft does seem to repeat material already published elsewhere, perhaps because your draft is a reprint of a press release. I've added some useful links in a welcome message on your user talk page. You need to read them, and particularly WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:07, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I have tagged the draft for speedy deletion as a copyvio of http://www.sonicbids.com/band/erinleah/ . The OP's user name is also a problem as it is the same as Ms Leah's record label, see the same page. If you wish to continue editing, please create a new account with a name that represents you as an individual and not the company. There is also a procedure for donating copyright materials but in this case it wouldn't help as the text is far too promotional and unencyclopedic.--ukexpat (talk) 16:43, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Buick customer feedback survey

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


    Dear Wikipedians, I am an employee of General Motors, working for Buick and we would like you to contact us via http://www.buick.com with your feedback.

    Also, we would like to know how our SEO could be improved, any website feedback is welcomed.

    Luisa, employee of General Motors, Buick division --LuisaBuickEmployee (talk) 16:48, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    Hi, I just left a comment here, and a portion of the comment was interpreted by the software as an external link (??). What's going on? Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:33, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I'll leave it to someone who knows to explain why "RFC" followed by a number, without any markup, produces an external link to tools.ietf.org, as RFC 666. In the meantime, you can make your comment work by changing to something like RFC (1). ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 17:47, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    See WP:RFCAUTO. It's rarely used for RFC. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:26, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Odd. Thanks. Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:55, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Large amounts of primary material on social media necessary for article. How do I use it?

    The 2014 Jadavpur University protest(s) is the first of its kind in India, intensively using social media for coordination and dissemination, making it first a national and now potentially an international movement (solidarity campaigns have taken place in Ann Arbor and been planned in New York). However, Wikipedia policy is to generally avoid citing such media as unreliable sources. Now several online 'battles' between students and state government officials/sympathizers have erupted, especially in the form of text and image campaigns on Facebook. There are also pages which serve as points for coordination between students across the country on an unprecedented scale. My question here is, how do I cite and show all this? ArkaBlue (talk) 20:08, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    You probably don't. You need secondary sources to evaluate and judge what is important. --NeilN talk to me 20:30, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    thank you

    so I pretty much wait until a reliable news source reports bits and pieces of it, right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArkaBlue (talkcontribs) 21:05, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    @ArkaBlue: Yes, as Wikipedia is not the news. Articles should not report on the event, they should summarize what others are saying about the event. --NeilN talk to me 21:10, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. We newbies live and learn. Sometimes Wikipedia is so fast with it all, I end up reading it instead of the news.ArkaBlue (talk) 23:19, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    You may also wish to know that it's being discussed as a possible item for In the News on the front page, but concerns over the content in the article need to be addressed first. There's some guidance in the nomination as to what needs sorting (Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#2014_Jadavpur_University_protests). CaptRik (talk) 21:59, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, I know. They've put me into the discussion too. This is all a little overwhelming, frankly speaking.ArkaBlue (talk) 23:19, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Need help an article

    I want write an article but a bit scarred of you’re going to delete please help can I write this article

    Finij
    Stable release
    2.2.1
    TypeStudent information system
    Websitewww.finij.com

    Finij is a management software developer headquartered in London United Kingdom.

    Hi Barzaq. You need independent sources (e.g., in-depth reviews) to show the software is notable to have an article survive deletion discussions. --NeilN talk to me 20:39, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Davido

    Davido (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

    Greetings Help desk. I need some clarification with the nationality parameter on Wikipedia. Davido was born in America but lives in Nigeria. Since he has both an American and Nigerian passport, should his Biography read: Davido is a Nigerian American recording artist .... or Davido is an American born Nigeria recording artist...? Which is correct. I need some clarification because I believe the former is right. Thanks. Versace1608 (Talk) 01:28, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Sorry you haven't had any reply to this. The description currently found in the article, "an American-born Nigerian recording artist", seems to describe his situation well. It would seem odd to describe someone of Nigerian descent and nationality, making a career in Nigeria, as "Nigerian-American", that is to say, an American of Nigerian descent.: Noyster (talk), 21:50, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Reviving sleeper account

    I'm assuming my account has gone into sleeper mode but I'm not clear how to re-activate it. I've read FAQs and numerous help pages, and I believe my account should be in good standing.

    I'm not getting the link to reset the password, I've tried both inserting username and email separately. Creating a new account with my old username doesn't work, because the system says that username is taken. What's your advice to revive an account or get a hold of my old username? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.58.235 (talk) 21:17, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm not sure what you mean by sleeper mode but accounts and passwords never expire and there is nothing to reactivate. It doesn't matter how along ago you last logged in or edited. If you have forgotten the password and cannot receive password mails at the address stored in the account, or no address is stored, then you have to create a new account with another name. Note that for privacy reasons, the message you see at Special:PasswordReset does not reveal whether an entered email address is actually stored in an account. If you have other email addresses you may have stored in the account then check those. If the account has no edits, or in some cases a few insignificant edits, you may be able to get a new account renamed to the old name at Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations. We can say more if you tell the username. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:43, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Please check a reference for me?

    I'm at work and can't reach the reference used for the birth date in the Ariel Rebel article. This edit changed it but I can't verify it. Could someone who isn't behind a restrictive firewall help out here? Thanks, Dismas|(talk) 23:35, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    The cited source does not seem to mention her day and month of birth anywhere. I did find this (NSFW) source that says March 14th. I'm going to change that now. Note to self, in the future read the first line of the article before clicking on external links. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 00:15, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry about that. I often will mention that the subject is potentially NSFW but I didn't this time. I'll try to remember to keep up the habit of mentioning that when I need to make another request in the future. Dismas|(talk) 04:05, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    The linked reference only says 1985 today. The Internet Archive shows it once said 14 march 1985 [3] like our article before. But https://twitter.com/ArielRebel/status/514400738307743744 from 23 September 2014 says: "For everybody who asked... My real birthday is September 23, 1985 :) I'm 29 for real today lol :) I'm a fall equinox baby ^_^". I guess the user saw that or someone mentioning it. It's her offical Twitter account linked from her website. I don't know whether to trust the subject or the subject – not our usual dilemma when there are conflicting sources. Or should we mention both dates and reference both of them to the subject? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:27, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I want to see her driver license (the one thing she hasn't shown us already). ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 00:51, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    September 24

    antique guns

    What does the term "in the black' mean as it relates to antique guns? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.234.78.34 (talk) 01:31, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    If it doesn't mean its normal dictionary meaning (netting a profit/ahead/solvent; in this context, I suppose it could be via sale of antique guns) then I have no idea, but this page is not for general knowledge questions but for those related to editing or using Wikipedia. A place that is tailor made for this type of question is the language section of our reference desk. I'd ask there.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:01, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Article "Oil war"

    I clicked on the talk link for the article Oil war and found that it had been redirected to Talk:Heglig_Crisis. Further examination of the history showed that the talk page (and the article) had been moved to Talk:Sudan Oil War back in May 2012. It was again moved to Talk:2012 South Sudan–Sudan border conflict, then to Talk:2012 South Sudan–Sudan border war, and finally to Talk:Heglig Crisis. On July 25, 2012, someone took out the redirect on the Oil war page and started to rebuild the article as a disam page. The earliest edit comment in the history of Talk:Oil war says:

    "13:16, 14 May 2012‎ Luis Molnar (talk | contribs)‎ . . (32 bytes) (+32)‎ . . (Luis Molnar moved page Talk:Oil War to Talk:Sudan Oil War) (thank)"

    And the article (Oil war) has a similar comment for its first edit comment. I don't understand how the first edit comment can be a move. How can the first edit comment in the history of a page be a move? What was moved if the article didn't exist? I searched through the talk pages of all those talk pages and could not find the original content of Oil war or Talk:Oil war. It looks like maybe the edit history/histories has/have been modified. Could someone with more experience and the appropriate permissions please examine the situation to see if the original content of the article Oil war and its talk page can be recovered? Sparkie82 (tc) 04:07, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Everything that was in Oil War, from March 27 till May 14, 2012 is in Heglig Crisis' history. Same for the talk page. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:47, September 24, 2014 (UTC)
    Yes, as Help:Page history#Moved and deleted pages says: "When a page is moved (renamed), the entire edit history of the article, before and after the move, is shown. The old title becomes a redirect and loses its edit history." PrimeHunter (talk) 09:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I guess I just assumed that that article would have existed before 2012, given recent world history. Thank you for verifying that. Sparkie82 (tc) 15:43, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Indian Map

    Hi,

    Sikkim while i referring this page you have shown the Indian Map without Kashmir, Kindly change the map which includes Kashmir. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.100.150.172 (talk) 07:25, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I guess you know of the Kashmir conflict. The map shows who controls a disputed area. Talk:India/FAQ says:
    "Q6: The map is wrong!
    A6: The map shows the actual borders and all related claims; it cannot exclusively present the official views of India, Pakistan, or China. See WP:NPOV."
    Note that areas controlled by India but claimed by Pakistan are shown as in India, so we don't side against India. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:30, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    algorithms

    algorithms in wiki pedia can explain in most efficient way — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.225.29.34 (talk) 07:46, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    If you have a specific question about Wikipedia then please clarify it. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:34, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing "hypertext"

    This is my first attempt at writing an article, so the question is very basic... it will include a list of operas (in alphabetical order) and I'd prefer to put any articles after the title e.g. Sonnambula (La), but the hypertext automatically puts it at the beginning - how can I edit the hypertext?--ScozzeseVolante (talk) 08:25, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    It sounds as if you might be looking for a piped wikilink. [[La sonnambula|Sonnambula (La)]] will diplay as Sonnambula (La) but link to La sonnambula. Details of how to do it are at Wikipedia:Piped link. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:43, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    If you've not seen them already, you might also want to check out the existing Lists of operas and the pages/categories linked from there. If you see something in those articles styled the way you like, then you can click Edit and see the source text for it. CaptRik (talk) 09:13, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Chikwe Nkemnacho

    I need all information about me removed from wikipedia as they are not for public consumption. Please handle urgently. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.187.113 (talk) 09:43, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    You don't have a right of veto over what appears on Wikipedia about you. If the content can be verified by material published in reliable sources about you, and if you meet Wikipedia's definition of notability, then the article can stay. You may wish to read the advice at Wikipedia:Blp#Dealing with articles about yourself. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:57, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I have proposed Chikwe Onoriode Nkemnacho for deletion as a biography of a living person that has no references whatsoever. It did have a website as an external link, but the website seems not to exist. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 10:02, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Looks a little A7-ish to me, so I have tagged it for speedy deletion as such.--ukexpat (talk) 12:11, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Spam Link in Medical Mutual of Ohio Article

    A link was added last year to the "External Links" section of the "Medical Mutual of Ohio" article (Medical Mutual of Ohio).

    The link in question is titled "Medical Mutual of Ohio Rates", and it links to an insurance quoting site.

    I was hoping to have this link removed, but don't want to do it myself due to a conflict of interest. I have also added this request to the talk page for Medical Mutual of Ohio, but I do not believe that the talk page is frequently monitored.

    Leaving a message here was suggested on one of the "Contact Wikipedia" pages (Wikipedia:Contact us - Subjects). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Widgetfan88 (talkcontribs) 15:57, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

     Done--ukexpat (talk) 16:37, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Arnold Perl bio

    To Whom It May Concern: I am the son of Joseph Stein, the librettist (or book writer) of 'Fiddler on the Roof.' In Wikipedia's entry for the writer/producer Arnold Perl, there appears the following:" Perl also wrote the play Tevye and his Daughters which was later adapted to the musical Fiddler on the Roof.[1]" This is wholly inaccurate. My father adapted 'Fiddler' from the short stories of the Yiddish writer Sholom Aleichem and used not a word by Arnold Perl; and, indeed, resented (and a;ways corrected) any suggestion to the contrary. In fact, when he and his collaborators were writing the show, Perl was a nuisance, since he held the rights to Sholom Aleichem's work. They retrieved those rights at a very steep price -- Perl got a small percentage of the royalties (which made him very rich) and the show's posters read 'By Special Arrangement With Arnold Perl.' But, again, he had no input on the show they produced, which, beyond the names of several characters, had absolutely nothing to do with his earlier play. For verification, check out either of the two books that recently appeared in conjunction with the show's fiftieth anniversary: 'Miracle of Miracles' or 'Tradition.' Both go into considerable detail on the show's origins, and also deal with Perl and the brouhaha over the rights. -- Harry Stein — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.178.181 (talk) 17:12, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    We follow what the reliably published sources say. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:58, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    ... which may change as more sources become available. The source cited in the article, doollee.com, does not look particularly reliable; I would prefer Tradition! by Barbara Isenberg, but it is not yet available in my country. Maproom (talk) 19:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    There is a significant excerpt from Tradition at http://us.macmillan.com/excerpt?isbn=9780312591427 that includes the quote

    The book writers, or librettists, on musicals are often underappreciated, and Harnick felt Stein was among them. Said Harnick, “Some of the critics praised him, but others said he had such an easy job—all he had to do was to quote the stories. But there were very few lines that he could use. There were some. But I would say that ninety-five percent of the show, he had to invent. It was all Joe Stein.”

    A good start, I think.Naraht (talk) 19:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    After reading the alleged Harry Stein's initial comment, I did some research and found that his claims seemed to be true. See http://us.macmillan.com/excerpt?isbn=9780312591427.

    "The book writers, or librettists, on musicals are often underappreciated, and Harnick felt Stein was among them. Said Harnick, “Some of the critics praised him, but others said he had such an easy job—all he had to do was to quote the stories. But there were very few lines that he could use. There were some. But I would say that ninety-five percent of the show, he had to invent. It was all Joe Stein.”

    I changed the wording to reflect this and kept the original reference, while adding this one. Derstacker (talk) 21:59, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]