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Psychonaut (talk | contribs) →Ann Senghas Claim: The article now more clearly summarizes Rapaport's history article, which indicates that Senghas's coinage was independent. I've also added material on an earlier (1965) coinage by Dmitri Borgmann. |
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The header is wrong. The last buffalo shouldnt have a capital letter and the second to last should. God I feel so pedantic right now! |
The header is wrong. The last buffalo shouldnt have a capital letter and the second to last should. God I feel so pedantic right now! |
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: You're kind of right. There are two different valid orderings of upper-case and lower-case, and each have slightly different meanings. Maybe there are more meanings! I'll try to paraphrase the various meanings, while preserving the word order. However, I will say "bison from Buffalo" instead of "Buffalo bison". |
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: ''"Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo"'' means ''"bison from Buffalo, that bison from Buffalo bully, themselves bully bison from Buffalo"'' |
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:another version is: |
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: ''"Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo"'', but that's slightly harder to understand. Buffalo (adverb) buffalo (noun) buffalo (verb) Buffalo(adverb) buffalo (noun) Buffalo (adverb) buffalo (noun) buffalo (verb). To understand this, consider "bison from Buffalo bully X". X is the noun, or [[Noun phrase]], that are the victims of the bullying by bison from Buffalo. You could, for simplicity, replace X with "bison from London", but you can go further and say "which bison from London?". Answer, the bison from London that are bullied by bison from New York. i.e. the victims are the "bison from London that bison from New York bully". |
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:The "that" is optional in English, so you can say "bison from London bison from New York bully". Finally, returning to the original word order, you can say: ''Buffalo bison bully London bison (that) New York bison bully.'' And then, you can replace 'London' and 'New York' with 'Buffalo' |
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[[User:Aaron McDaid|Aaron McDaid]] <small>([[User_talk:Aaron McDaid|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Aaron McDaid|contribs]]) </small> 18:01, 26 December 2014 (UTC) |
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The header is wrong. The last buffalo shouldnt have a capital letter and the second to last should. God I feel so pedantic right now!
- You're kind of right. There are two different valid orderings of upper-case and lower-case, and each have slightly different meanings. Maybe there are more meanings! I'll try to paraphrase the various meanings, while preserving the word order. However, I will say "bison from Buffalo" instead of "Buffalo bison".
- "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" means "bison from Buffalo, that bison from Buffalo bully, themselves bully bison from Buffalo"
- another version is:
- "Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo", but that's slightly harder to understand. Buffalo (adverb) buffalo (noun) buffalo (verb) Buffalo(adverb) buffalo (noun) Buffalo (adverb) buffalo (noun) buffalo (verb). To understand this, consider "bison from Buffalo bully X". X is the noun, or Noun phrase, that are the victims of the bullying by bison from Buffalo. You could, for simplicity, replace X with "bison from London", but you can go further and say "which bison from London?". Answer, the bison from London that are bullied by bison from New York. i.e. the victims are the "bison from London that bison from New York bully".
- The "that" is optional in English, so you can say "bison from London bison from New York bully". Finally, returning to the original word order, you can say: Buffalo bison bully London bison (that) New York bison bully. And then, you can replace 'London' and 'New York' with 'Buffalo'
Aaron McDaid (talk - contribs) 18:01, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
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shouldnt "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" be "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo." ? 66.211.241.158 (talk) 05:13, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Not done - We don't use full stops in titles ;-) - Arjayay (talk) 08:36, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Ann Senghas Claim
Pinker said Senghas coined the phrase, but it was first written in 1972, and which point in time Senghas would only have been 8 years old. Perhaps someone should edit the article to include this doubt? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buffalo editor (talk • contribs) 14:16, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- Buffalo editor: done. The article now more clearly summarizes Rapaport's history article, which indicates that Senghas's coinage was independent. I've also added material on an earlier coinage by Dmitri Borgmann, some of which was added to Rapaport's history only after it was last consulted as a source for this article. —Psychonaut (talk) 09:26, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
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The sentence example has the verbs, noun, and adverbs mixed up. It should be Buffalo (adverb) buffalo (noun) buffalo (verb) Buffalo(adverb) buffalo (noun) Buffalo (adverb) buffalo (noun) buffalo (verb).
220.233.41.204 (talk) 23:03, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Sam Sailor Sing 07:09, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I understand what you're saying, but the article's formulation of the sentence is correct, and follows the formulation found in the sources. Try looking at it again. DoctorKubla (talk) 07:12, 4 July 2014 (UTC)