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In the second sentence, the use of the term "concertina accordion" is, to my knowledge, incorrect as they are distinct instruments and the instrument in discussion can only be one or the other. If the sentence is saying that the name "melodeon" refers to the [[diatonic button accordion]], there is nothing particular about this use to India. That "'''harmonium''' means the smaller hand-pumped variety" does not clarify as to whether this is a variety of pump organ (the intention I'm guessing), accordion or concertina. [[User:Mutt Lunker|Mutt Lunker]] ([[User talk:Mutt Lunker|talk]]) 18:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
In the second sentence, the use of the term "concertina accordion" is, to my knowledge, incorrect as they are distinct instruments and the instrument in discussion can only be one or the other. If the sentence is saying that the name "melodeon" refers to the [[diatonic button accordion]], there is nothing particular about this use to India. That "'''harmonium''' means the smaller hand-pumped variety" does not clarify as to whether this is a variety of pump organ (the intention I'm guessing), accordion or concertina. [[User:Mutt Lunker|Mutt Lunker]] ([[User talk:Mutt Lunker|talk]]) 18:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Yeah, I thought that [[Nico]] was pretty much the face (and sound!) of the harmonium/pump organ in western popular music? Should she be mentioned in this article? Thanks. -[[Special:Contributions/84.51.162.182|84.51.162.182]] ([[User talk:84.51.162.182|talk]]) 01:22, 14 September 2015 (UTC) |
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Interesting new addition. Maybe the initial sentence that defines the pump organ as a reed organ shold be changed? Are the portative organs also referred to as "pump organ"? /Habj 09:45, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC) scooby doo
Not harmonium?
Following a link to what I thought would be an article on the harmonium, I am quite surprised to see that is headed with the title "Pump organ". This is not a term I have encountered at all often, and I have always thought that the normal name for the instrument was "harmonium".
Is it one of those things that varies wildly from one country to another, or even between different types of musicians (like different types of violinists may refer to either a "fiddle" or a "violin")? For what it matters, I am in Australia, but I don't think that would have made much difference to the name I hear most often for the instrument, because I rarely hear anyone in person talk about the harmonium, and by far the most references to the instrument, from which I would have inferred its usual name, have been in printed sources or web sites - most of which are probably not Australian in origin.
I don't know enough about the matter of naming to go into it further; but I wonder if anyone who knows about this (perhaps previous contributors to the article) could please respond, and mention the basis on which the heading for this article was chosen. I tried looking to see if there had been any discussion about this, but there doesn't appear to have been. I really would have thought it should be "Harmonium", so would be interested to know why the name "Pump organ" was chosen to head this article. M.J.E. (talk) 16:57, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Melodeon
The last paragraph of the introduction is unclear in a number of aspects:
"The melodeon is another reed keyboard instrument, usually housed in a table-like casing, that predates the pump organ. In reference to the music of India, melodeon usually refers to a concertina accordion, while harmonium means the smaller hand-pumped variety."
I think the first sentence is attempting to elaborate the difference between the instrument being described and the pump organ but other than saying that it is "another...instrument" the difference isn't made clear. Assuming it's not the same instrument, it should also clarify the difference from the other instrument commonly known by the name "melodeon", the diatonic button accordion.
In the second sentence, the use of the term "concertina accordion" is, to my knowledge, incorrect as they are distinct instruments and the instrument in discussion can only be one or the other. If the sentence is saying that the name "melodeon" refers to the diatonic button accordion, there is nothing particular about this use to India. That "harmonium means the smaller hand-pumped variety" does not clarify as to whether this is a variety of pump organ (the intention I'm guessing), accordion or concertina. Mutt Lunker (talk) 18:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
No mention of Nico?
Yeah, I thought that Nico was pretty much the face (and sound!) of the harmonium/pump organ in western popular music? Should she be mentioned in this article? Thanks. -84.51.162.182 (talk) 01:22, 14 September 2015 (UTC)