Talk:Western Cape

Assessment Comment

Among the enhancements awaited are significantly more references.Gallador (talk) 23:55, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Figures

Figures have been edited by an IP used by a known vandale, User:205.188.116.74. Please vet the changes. --Wetman 06:35, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The changes made by that IP were only to the dollar comparison (at a rate of R6.65 to the US$), so it seems like nothing fundamental was changed. As for the other more recent changes, please add sources - anonymous unattributed changes don't help too much. --Greenman 14 Jun 2005.

Municipal Demarcation

There has been changes in the demarcation of local municipalities and no mention is made that "local" muncipalities are grouped together into six "district" muncupalities. More info can be found at Municipal Demarcation Board and offical Weastern Cape government source . I attempted to start the process at Western Cape Province but links from that page need to be modified and the template at the bottom as well. So this should be a bottom-up edit and not top-down, and the local-municipal pages need to be changed/moved first. -- Warpedshadow 15:44, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

I have re-organised all the WC municipalities into there districts and moved some of the pages to their new names. Warpedshadow 01:03, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Province

Note: this discussion has been moved to Talk:Provinces of South Africa#Province article naming. Please add any new comments there.

After the long debate about whether or not to call Cape Town, City of Cape Town... I have another! :) What's everyone's view on using the word Province for all the provinces? It looks odd to me, and I know I'd never say 'Western Cape Province' or 'Gauteng Province'. They're just Western Cape, Gauteng, Mpumalanga etc. Joziboy 15 March 2006, 20:06 (UTC)

I know what you mean - certainly I wouldn't normally say "Western Cape Province", and it feels kind of wrong on all the articles. However, it is quite normal to talk about North West Province and Limpopo Province, if only to distinguish them from the cardinal direction and the river respectively. It seems to me that there are three choices:

1. sticking with the "Province" suffix on all 9 articles, which is probably technically correct with respect to the full name of the governmental entity - and after all, SA provinces are purely government entities; the provinces don't really have geographical significance.
2. dropping "Province" on the articles except Limpopo and North West, which would seem less wrong, but it wouldn't really be consistent.
3. dropping "Province" on all the articles, and change Limpopo to "Limpopo (South African province)" and similarly for North West. It also seems less wrong (to me), and more consistent with Wikipedia standards for disambiguating article titles.

I would be in favour of number 3, but I don't really have a strong opinion any way. - htonl 22:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, I wouldn't say Limpopo Province either. Prepositions usually clear up any confusion - "I'm going to Limpopo", "What's the capital of Limpopo?", "We have a house in Limpopo" all make it sound like it's the province. Else it would be the Limpopo. But yeah, I suppose it's not the end of the world either way. It just looks odd - we don't call South Africa "South Africa Country" :) Anyways, option 3 sounds good to me. Joziboy 16 March 2006, 15:13 (UTC)

Yup, count me in on #3 as well. I would very, very rarely add "province" when referring to any of our provinces. dewet|™ 15:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

I've copied this discussion to Talk:Provinces of South Africa#Province article naming, as it would seem to be more correct to have it there. - htonl 18:54, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Note: this discussion has been moved to Talk:Provinces of South Africa#Province article naming. Please add any new comments there.

Dissent on HIV/AIDs

I read that Western Cape broke with the national government on President Thabo Mbeki's policy of AIDs denial, significantly reducing death and infection rates compared to the rest of the country. I haven't found further references. Who was responsible for defying national policy? Were there repercussions? With more references, I might suggest including something on this issue, though I can't say where it would best fit. SpaceToast (talk) 16:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:NOTFORUM

AFRIKAANSLAND The same way Lower Canada gave birth to QUEBEC Western South Africa will give birth to AFRIKAANSLAND with Afrikaans as the official language and driving thousands of Afrikaans-speaking South Africans to Afrikaansland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.24.243.144 (talk) 15:46, 12 October 2008 (UTC) That's moronic. Please don't hurt yourself.RiseRepublic (talk) 17:54, 29 October 2010 (UTC) According to the census, only 20 % of the residents of the Western Cape speak English as their home language. Yet, the Premier of the Western Cape, who is from a party that claims to support multilingualism, delivers her State of the Province Address entirely in English. It is particularly shocking that Mrs. Zille, who is allegedly fluent in Afrikaans, couldn't make room for at least one paragraph in the language that is spoken by almost 50 % of the citizens she serves as head of the provincial government. I wonder why Western Capetonians do not demand a multilingual provincial government similar to the federal government of Canada for example. 161.24.19.112 (talk) 17:37, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

ANC Mandate

The first part of the introduction is accurate enough. However to say that "the Western Cape set itself apart early in post-apartheid South African history by being one of the two provinces to have rejected an ANC mandate" is overly political, and rather irrational. There was nothing automatic about ANC rule. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 03:14, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Population Statistics

The population figures for Cape Town are not updated with figures from the 2011 census and do not reflect the proper demographics of the Western Cape population. Similarly, the page mentions that that Somerset West has a population of over 100 000 and Strand 50 000, when both of these have since being incorporated into the City of Cape Town municipality and thus are counted in the Cape Town population and should not be classified as cities on their own. I would suggest this page be updated with the correct population statistics.Sandelk (talk) 15:55, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

It's pretty commonly held opinion that Somerset West and Strand, though part of the City of Cape Town local authority, are distinctly separated from the continuous built-up zone of Cape Town by rural land and could be considered separate towns (Atlantis, Fisantekraal, Mamre, and Melkbosstrand can also be placed in this category). Of course there's no official definition of what is a city and what is just a suburb of another city. Other than that matter of opinion, what population statistics are you claiming to be inaccurate? - htonl (talk) 13:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I am also hesitant when calling Somerset West part of Cape Town but when in doubt I still fall back on considering what ever is in the municipal area of City of Cape Town as part of the city. As such I think that Sandelk is right to ask for the stats to be updated accordingly and these areas to be included.--Discott (talk) 19:58, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

There aren't any stats to be "updated", though, as far as I can see. The only change would be to remove them from the list of towns. But if that is to happen then we must be consistent and also remove Atlantis, Mamre and Melkbosstrand which also fall within the City of Cape Town. - htonl (talk) 20:17, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Xhosa Translation

The Xhosa translation of "Western Cape" provided in the English article is different from the translation in the Afrikaans and Dutch articles. I don't speak Xhosa, but it would be nice if anyone who does could fix it.191.184.68.209 (talk) 17:37, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

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Did my best to break up the "Geography" section into bite-(not byte!)-sized, easily digestible portions with headings in bold. And rearranged some of the information. Also added an extra diagram to illustrate the information presented in the text. Hope this helps. Oggmus (talk) 15:04, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Provincial borders on topographical map

I was under the impression that the topographical map of the south-western corner of South Africa originally had the borders of the province superimposed on it. But going back into the history of the article I cannot find it. Could someone with the appropriate skills please draw those borders onto that map please. The "Geography" section would make a lot more sense if that were to happen. Oggmus (talk) 15:04, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

I now notice that User:Htonl's topological map does trace out the Province's boundaries, but they are almost invisible even when the map is viewed full size. So I have redrawn that map with a more emphasized boundary line, which, to my mind, looks better and is more informative, and in line with the text. Oggmus (talk) 11:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

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Crime

High crime rate because of those black apes Peckerwoods (talk) 05:39, 11 October 2016 (UTC)