Talk:Siamese cat

Wichien-Maat

Wichien-Maat means "moon diamond", not gold diamond as the article stated. You can check yourself by searching for Wichien-Maat on Google for the definition and also the Wikipedia page- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_(cat) lists Wichien-Maat meaning Moon Diamond as well.--99.177.250.140 (talk) 01:24, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Ragdolls?

I'm pretty sure Ragdolls should be added to the list of breeds derived from Siamese. Most of them have some form of colorpoint coats. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.54.250.11 (talk) 19:15, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Mislabeling of other breeds as Siamese

There are several pictures of cats currently on the page, which are labeled as Siamese, but are actually breeds derived from Siamese. Most are Tonkinese. Jkhamlin (talk) 19:28, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Hybrid between Shorthair and Siamese

I wonder what a hybrid between a domestic shorthair and a siamese cat would be? --68.103.24.102 (talk) 02:41, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Origin of the breed

The origin of the Siamese cat breed is actually from Siam, not Thailand. This should be corrected. HybridBiology (talk) 23:49, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

"Siam" is an older name for the country now known as "Thailand". See Siam. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:19, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay, just looked at the Siam article. An older name for Thailand is Siam? I... couldn't believe that. --Security Shield (talk) 01:36, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Siam?

I don't understand the intent behind this edit of the page. Siam is an older name for Thailand. See Siam. --198.248.159.6 (talk) 13:54, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

images to compare

I think it's helpful to put some images side by side to compare. Does anyone want to help move the gallery to the appearance section and find images to compare sub-breeds and other traits of interest? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AI or not AI (talk • contribs) 18:15, 12 May 2012‎ (UTC)

"Meezer"

The nickname "meezer" is mentioned twice, both attributing the nickname to their vocal nature. The first mention of this nickname has no citation, and the second mention cites a book.

I find it hard to believe that the nickname doesn't come from the second syllable of the word "Siamese", which sounds like "meez". Their vocal nature, and sounding like they're saying "mee" and "meez", is probably a reason why the nickname fits, but I doubt it's the origin of it.

The second mention cites a book that I haven't seen. The first mention, in the opening paragraph, seems like it needs a citation. I don't think I should just copy the book citation onto the first mention, because I haven't seen the book. I'm placing a "citation needed" there instead, but I don't think the book citation should simply be copied there-- it'd be ideal if someone could find another source stating where the nickname comes from to back up (or contradict) the book citation. That's assuming anyone else agrees with me and isn't buying the simple "it's from their talkative nature" explanation. M-1 (talk) 06:31, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

My family raised purebred Siamese from the 70s on, and I have never heard that theory about the origin of "meezer." Furthermore, I can't find a single reference to that book that isn't a reprint or translation of this article. Pretty clearly BS of some kind- trying to advertise the book? Nonmouse Nonmouse (talk) 01:07, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

I found a preview here. Doing a date range search on google for meezer in association with Siamese yields results from before the book was published, and even before this article existed.--Drat (Talk) 07:10, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

I found another reference from 2004 via Google Books. It's clear (I think) that the author, and Siamese Rescue Inc. to whom the author refers, describes the nickname 'Meezer' as in 'Siameezers':

Siamese Rescue started a little effort called the "Meezer Express" (Siameeezers). The recruited homes all over the country and now help forsaken, lost or surrendered Siamese and Siamese mixes all over America find new homes. (The older ones are called Meezer Geezers!)

--Canines in the Classroom: Raising Humane Children through Interactions with Animals (2004)

82.38.138.10 (talk) 22:22, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

"appearance"

The article states of the head: 'forming a perfect triangle from the tip of the nose to each tip of the ear' - what precisely is a 'perfect triangle'? Three points will always form a triangle, I fail to see what would qualify it as 'perfect'. Does it mean symmetrical? Equilateral? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.200.27.88 (talk) 01:06, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

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Lead image caption wrong

The lead image is not of a lilac-point it is a lilac tabby-point cat. Stripes are quite visible on the tail and, though faint, the tabby 'M' shape can be seen on the cat's forehead. Urselius (talk) 12:09, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

"Almond-shaped eyes"

One of the lead lines in the article describes Siamese cats as having "almond-shaped" eyes, which seems problematic on a few levels. The first is that this is fairly subjective; from my point of view, the eyes of this breed don't seem to have any casually-noticable shape difference from other cat breeds. The second, of course, is that "almond-shaped" is a loaded descriptor often applied to Asian people and characters as a euphemistic replacement for "slanty-eyed," and it's a descriptor with no real basis in reality. See: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/09/16/219402847/-almond-shaped-eyes-remarkably-exotic-yet-too-foreign

My preference would be to just delete this descriptor entirely and replace it with a sourced one. For now, I've replaced it with a Citation Needed tag.

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