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Hi [[User_talk:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]], Thank you for your help in reviewing the draft page: Gareth O'Sullivan. The article has been updated as per your comments "Phrases like "passion and knowledge" need toned down or removed, as well as the puff and talking up. "O'Sullivan", not "Gareth" (full name on first mention, last only thereafter.)" Is there anything else required for O'Sullivan's draft article to be approved? Many thanks. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ItsGGO18|ItsGGO18]] ([[User talk:ItsGGO18#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ItsGGO18|contribs]]) 13:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Hi [[User_talk:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]], Thank you for your help in reviewing the draft page: Gareth O'Sullivan. The article has been updated as per your comments "Phrases like "passion and knowledge" need toned down or removed, as well as the puff and talking up. "O'Sullivan", not "Gareth" (full name on first mention, last only thereafter.)" Is there anything else required for O'Sullivan's draft article to be approved? Many thanks. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ItsGGO18|ItsGGO18]] ([[User talk:ItsGGO18#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ItsGGO18|contribs]]) 13:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Hello ==

Could you please help review this once again and help provide leads on what's can be done to make it better?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Invisible_Borders_Trans-African_Photographers_Organisation

Thanks a lot. [[User:7ru57|7ru57]] ([[User talk:7ru57|talk]]) 17:42, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

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Season's Greetings

My "Draft:The Thin Gold Line" page

Hello there! Thank you for the work you are doing, I can imagine that is not always easy :)

My draft page "Draft:The Thin Gold Line" has been deleted by you yesterday because of Unambiguous advertising or promotion. Do you think there is a way to make a company wiki page without advertising or promote? Should I delete some "wrong" text? My goal is to say that this brand exist and that their product is the largest hot gold foil stamping realization to date.

Let me know what you think.

In any case can I have back the draft page, even only for few minutes just to copy some text that I need?

Thank you very much for your precious time!

Best, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamyouaresheis (talkcontribs) 13:23, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Iamyouaresheis, yes, we have many articles about companies and products. They are required to be neutral in tone and content, based upon reliable and independent sources. If substantial amounts of such reference material do not exist, we should not have an article about the subject. In this case, the sources looked rather like blogs (which are not reliable) and read like reprinted press releases (the first source actually acknowledges such) which are not independent. The article contains a fair bit of marketese, such as use of the meaningless "brand" (is it a product? A company? Then call it that.), and fluffy "talking up" like The Thin Gold Line is also a technical achievement: the art prints being the largest hot gold foil stamping realization to date, printed on the blackest paper in the world. (And such an assertion would need a much more reliable source than what essentially looks like a blog). I don't restore advertisements on-wiki, but if you'd like to have a copy of the deleted text to use elsewhere, I can send it by email. If you'd like me to do that, let me know whether you would like the text as plain text or with wiki markup. Seraphimblade Talk to me 22:40, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you a lot! Great feedbacks! Yes, could you send me by email the entire wiki html text? Thank you! Iamyouaresheis (talk) 07:42, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seraphimblade do you already have my email?
Iamyouaresheis (talk) 10:31, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Review of Fizzarotti Palace

Hi! Awhile back you helped move my flagged article Fizarotti Palace to draft. Can you help me again or direct me to where I can find help? Is this new version more suitable? Also, how do I fix the coordinates and image box. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Fizzarotti_Palace Thanks so much! Shannon.wianecki (talk) 00:35, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shannon.wianecki, certainly looks better now than it did. I added a template to the article so that you can request review once you believe it's ready to move to mainspace. I'm afraid I'm not terribly familiar with fixing infobox stuff, but if you ask at the teahouse I bet someone will know how to do it. Seraphimblade Talk to me 01:05, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

producer Malcolm Springer

This page has been vandalized by deletion, according to my research.

Springer has a solid work history in the music industry and is mention in several articles pertaining to Rock 'n' Roll bands and their histories.

If anything, Springer is undercredited, if you judge him only on discography.

Check these two sources:

https://www.discogs.com/artist/429818-Malcolm-Springer

https://www.allmusic.com/artist/malcolm-springer-mn0000561280

Check my work, but I believe this is a good start made up of Collected and Other pertinent information:

Malcolm Springer Malcolm Sibley Springer (born April 2, 1970) is an American mix engineer, record producer, songwriter, arranger, and musician known for his long association with the House of Blues Studios and work with rock artists such as Matchbox 20, Collective Soul, Full Devil Jacket and Fear Factory.[1]

Early Life Born in Hayti, Mo., April 2, 1970, Springer grew up on a Southeast Missouri farm in New Madrid County between Marston, Mo., and Portageville, Mo., and attended Portageville Elementary and Portageville Junior High School and graduated from Portageville High School in 1988.

An all-state high school athlete, Springer played football and ran track as a member of the relay team and for 440 yard events.

Music has been a part of Springer’s life since age 8 when he started piano lessons. “They didn’t last long,” he recalled of the lessons. But Springer continued to develop his abilities on piano as well as on other instruments including guitar and bass.

While Springer only attended Southeast Missouri State University in Cape Girardeau, Mo., for one year, he played double bass for the university’s band during his time there and became a member of the Pi Kappa Alpha Fraternity.

Music career In 1991, Springer worked for high-end mixing console manufacturer Solid State Logic installing their first “Ultimation” motorized fader automation systems. By 1992, Springer had been promoted/hired as chief engineer at Beale Street Studios in Memphis, Tenn. In 1993, he became chief engineer at the House of Blues Studios in Memphis, Tenn., where he remained until 1996. Springer also worked as a staff engineer at Ocean Way Nashville Studio in Nashville, Tenn., in 1995-1996. In 1996-1997, Springer worked as an assistant engineer and production coordinator for Peter Collins, an English record producer.

Discography[1] Engineer/mixer 1993 – The Screamin' Cheetah Wheelies – The Screamin' Cheetah Wheelies 1994 – The Mother Station – Brand New Bag 1994 – O'Landa Draper – Live ... A Celebration of Praise

1995 – Collective Soul – Collective Soul 1995 – Royal Trux – Thank You 1995 – Joan Armatrading – What's Inside 1995 – Joshua Kadison – Delilah Blue 1995 – Isaac Hays – Branded

1995 – Danny Tate – Nobody's Perfect

1996 – Matchbox 20 – Yourself Or Someone Like You

1996 – Tela – Piece of Mind

1996 – Tela – Twisted

1996 – Ominous Seapods – Jet Smooth Ride

1996 – God Street Wine – Red

1997 – Collective Soul – Disciplined Breakdown

1997 – Claw Hammer – Hold Your Tongue (And Say Apple)

1997 – Andrew Dorff – Hint of Mess

1997 – I Bet – Sunhouse

1997 – I Bet – Grapes

1997 – Calvin Russell – The Story Of Calvin Russell (This Is My Life)

1998 – Emmet Swimming – Big Night Without You

1998 –The Ominous Seapods – Matinee Idols: Late Show

1998 – Bare Jr. – Boo-Tay

2001 – Fear Factory – Digimortal

2002 – Sinch – Sinch

2006 – Eli-Stone – Hard Times

2007 – Matchbox Twenty – Exile On Mainstream

2007 – Nova Red — No Regrets

2010 – Fades Away – Perceptions

2013 – The Sixxis – The Sixxis

Producer 1999 – Full Devil Jacket – A Wax Box 2000 – Mile – Back to the Floor

2000 – Mile – Driving Under Stars

2000 – Wanna Be Martyr – Various - Scream 3 The Album 2000 – Full Devil Jacket – Full Devil Jacket 2000 – Liquid Gang – Sunshine 2000 – Tidewater Grain – Here On The Outside 2000 – Various – MTV: The Return of Rock 2000 – Green Iron Fist – Various - Heavy Metal 2000 Original Motion Picture Soundtrack

2000 – Various – Heavy Metal 2000 FAKK2

2000 – Liquid Gang – 4-Track Sampler

2000 – Green Iron Fist – Various - Heavy Metal 2000

2000 – Various – Scream 3 (Original Soundtrack)

2001 – Mesh – Lowercase

2001 – Spike 1000 – Make Me Suffer

2001 – Spike 1000 – Waste of Skin

2001 – Various – More Music From the Fast and the Furious

2002 – Sinch – Something More

2002 – Sinch – Sinch

2002 – Greenwheel – Soma Holiday

2002 – Shelter – Various - Spider-Man: Music From and Inspired By

2002 – Neuro Girl – Hotwire

2002 – Greenwheel – Breathe

2002 – Various – MTV Road Rules: Don't Make Me Pull This Thing Over, Vol. 1

2004 – Modern Day Zero – Coming Up For Air

2004 – (Intheclear) – (intheclear)

2005 – Modern Day Zero – Coming Up For Air

2005 – In The Clear (2) – Dirty Cheese And the Hoodie Thieves EP

2005 – (Intheclear) – Dirty Cheese And the Hoodie Thieves EP

2006 – Greenwheel – Bridges for Burning

2006 – Cavo (3) – The Painful Art of Letting Go

2007 – (intheclear) – TV Tracks

2009 – Brookroyal – There Was A Time

2013 – Tantric – 37 Channels

2013 – The Sixxis – The Sixxis

Writer/arranger 2000 – Full Devil Jacket – Full Devil Jacket 2001 – Fear Factory – Digimortal 2002 – Greenwheel – Soma Holiday

Musician 2000 – Liquid Gang – Sunshine 2001 – Spike 1000 – Waste of Skin 2002 – Greenwheel – Soma Holiday

References Malcolm Sibley Springer https://www.discogs.com/artist/429818-Malcolm-Springer Malcolm Sibley Springer https://www.allmusic.com/artist/malcolm-springer-mn0000561280 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.232.122.72 (talk) 16:33, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, there was no vandalism. The prior "article" on Springer was a spamvertisement, and those are deleted. If you believe you can write an appropriate article about this individual, start a draft. You will need better references than Discogs and Allmusic. If no better references exist, we should not have an article about this subject at all. Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:31, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Late to the game, but probably already too closely associated to be the author.

This stuff shouldn't be too hard to track down. Album image by album image liner notes, if all else fails.

FWIW, I was very much about facts during my 17 years as a journalist/editor for The Standard Democrat. I'm not looking to inflate anything.

Best regards,

Scott — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.232.122.72 (talk) 02:22, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Album liner notes would not be sufficient. What is necessary to establish notability is a substantial quantityy of reliable and independent reference material written about an individual by disinterested third parties. Again, if that does not exist, then we should not have an article about a given subject at all. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:35, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seraphimblade,

As per Wikipedia's notability page, "The common theme in the notability guidelines is that there must be verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support a claim of notability."

Numerous gold and platinum awards for past projects notwithstanding, here are a few links.

https://vimeo.com/81761761

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr_woDO9Gbc

https://www.semissourian.com/story/1918209.html

Springer is much more notable and significant than several artists he has developed, produced, mixed or recorded that have met the criteria for being notable.

At what point does a producer become "notable"? Because I don't understand the specific criteria.

As a lay person user of Wikipedia who has found it very reliable and a great first step in getting information on a variety of subjects and as a former journalist who used Wikipedia in the same way, I find it frustrating and odd that I can learn about some producers but others are non-clickable links.

Artists, audophiles, entertainment writers are just three off the top of my head who would agree that any producer, mixer, songwriter, arranger that has on several occassions contributed verifiable and credited work on albums selling a million units is worth knowing more about.

Best regards,

Scott who probably should be digging around for his Wikipedia password and doing all of this while logged in. 2600:6C40:2A7F:F61A:A599:D2DA:EB8F:BB9F (talk) 20:15, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Review of Gareth O'Sullivan

Hi Seraphimblade, Thank you for your help in reviewing the draft page: Gareth O'Sullivan. The article has been updated as per your comments "Phrases like "passion and knowledge" need toned down or removed, as well as the puff and talking up. "O'Sullivan", not "Gareth" (full name on first mention, last only thereafter.)" Is there anything else required for O'Sullivan's draft article to be approved? Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ItsGGO18 (talkcontribs) 13:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Could you please help review this once again and help provide leads on what's can be done to make it better?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Invisible_Borders_Trans-African_Photographers_Organisation

Thanks a lot. 7ru57 (talk) 17:42, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]