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Hi Praxidicae, I'm not being compensated in any way for the Osano article. I am just a fellow Texan who just thinks they are a cool company, lately they have gotten a ton of press, and I was surprised to see that there was no Wikipedia article for a company that is being talked about so consistently. |
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Paid advocacy
Dear Praxidicae, I have chosen to create this topic randomly. I am not an employee of this concern, nor working for its promotion. I found required citation for the article. So have created one. To clarify you clearly either directly or indirectly i get any compensation for my edits. It was my own decision to create this article.bothumanized talk
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- User:Praxidicae i know what i'm doing don't worry i'll not disturbance the page and i connect with talk and he understand look at his talk page, i know what i'm doing don't worry i don't disrupt Wikipedia.--احمد مشتهي (talk) 19:39, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- You are indeed disrupting and clearly do not understand how to edit quite yet so I suggest you stop. Wikipedia is not a resume hosting service. Praxidicae (talk) 19:40, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- User:Praxidicae hello i know how to edit i put infobox and some new information with sources look at edits.--احمد مشتهي (talk) 19:42, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
infobox with education to the docotr and right information--احمد مشتهي (talk) 19:42, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- User:Praxidicae please back these edits i'm a proffesional in Wikipedia don't worry.--احمد مشتهي (talk) 19:46, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- How are you a professional in Wikipedia with a whopping 8 edits, احمد مشتهي? Praxidicae (talk) 19:47, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- How are you a professional in Wikipedia with a whopping 8 edits, احمد مشتهي? Praxidicae (talk) 19:47, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- User:Praxidicae, i took course online in Wikipedia education at Algeria. didn't you know about this course?--احمد مشتهي (talk) 19:49, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'd get my money back in that case. Please stop editing the article in such a disruptive manner. Thanks. Praxidicae (talk) 19:50, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- User:Praxidicae i don't understand anything ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by احمد مشتهي (talk • contribs) 19:51, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- User:Praxidicae what money understand me ??--احمد مشتهي (talk) 19:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
مرحبًا @احمد مشتهي: عزيزي، تعديلاتك في المقالة تخريبية، حيث تقوم بإزالة نصوص كبيرة من المقالة دون أي معنى، ومع احترامي لجميع إضافتك في المقالة، ولكن إضافتك وإزالتك لمعلومات موثقة بمصادر يعتبر أمر مخالفًا وقد تُمنع عليه. أعلم عن المساق الذي قدمته ويكيميديا الجزائر، ولكن هذا المساق يُقدم الأساسيات عمومًا! أيضًا الشخصية نفسها لا زالت محل بحث، وغالبًا مقالة الشخصية ستحذف عمومًا. تحياتي --Alaa :)..! 20:01, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
All accounts locked by Alaa. I put six months ECP on Bilal Orfali to force these UPE spammers to give up on this project. MER-C 02:41, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks @MER-C:. As Arabic Wikipedia article translated from enwiki version by another trusted user who didn't know about this UPE (with few additions from the socks), so I removed all socks addition, so arwiki article now equal the enwiki one. Also I protected to prevent any new spammers. Best --Alaa :)..! 13:14, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Correct Ressources
Hi, Thank you for your review and comments on my article. I do understand that there are things missing and reliable sources to be added but I also wanted to ask you on how to continue editing my article now that it has been declined ? Can I find it somewhere (as was mentioned I have to resubmit it within 6 months or it gets deleted) or do I have to start from scratch ? Please let me know.
Thank you --Dr. Julius Menden (talk) 15:17, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- I can't find evidence in English or Arabic that this person even exists, much less that any of the claims are true. Praxidicae (talk) 15:18, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Heider Al Abaidi
Hi Praxidicae, I'm acting as a mentor for the newbie User:Dr. Julius Menden in the German Wikipedia. His intention is to write articles about the football player Heider Al Abaidi. Obviously, it was a misunderstanding to name the article Draft:...
here, since it was intended to establish a draft version in his user namespace (where he can try to prepare a more elaborate version of the article). So, would it be ok, just to move the article to s.th. like User:Dr._Julius_Menden/Heider Al Abaidi ? Or would this be another violation of a rule since he started s.th. like an official review process, as I understood. Please give us a hint. Thanx in advance, --Rolf acker (talk) 19:44, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Rolf acker thanks for taking on newbies however this piece is completely inappropriate for enwiki in any space as it is factually well, false. Not a single claim can be verified and I question the intent of a user who would consider writing such things. Praxidicae (talk) 19:46, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanx for your immediate feedback, Praxidicae. Taking everything into account I'll also recommend him to start from scratch ;-) So, it seems to be a good idea to write the german article first, including reliable sources. Based on that it's more likely to publish an english version, isn't it? --Rolf acker (talk) 19:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Rolf acker: Also in the interest of saving your time since I wasted so much of mine today researching this person, I searched in arabic, german and English language projects and sources - even unreliable ones and with spelling variants and I came back with exactly 0 sources to verify a single claim other than this guy apparently likes soccer and took a photo that appeared in a paper. I checked every single clubs website and squad rosters that were available and still, nothing. I don't know what Menden's goal is here but I would strongly caution any mentor to take a look at the research I did before encouraging them to edit further about this person. It appears to be nothing more than heavily fabricated vanity spam. Praxidicae (talk) 20:01, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Many thanks! Up to now, it's completely unclear whether this player is able to pass s.th. we call a "check on relevance" in the German wikipedia. Without that all proceeding work would be useless anyway... --Rolf acker (talk) 20:11, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Rolf acker thanks for taking on newbies however this piece is completely inappropriate for enwiki in any space as it is factually well, false. Not a single claim can be verified and I question the intent of a user who would consider writing such things. Praxidicae (talk) 19:46, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Edits to bio page
Hi Praxidicae,
I have made edits that reflected the criticisms/standards described.
Any additional guidance you can provide in order to help it get approved would be appreciated.
(Rjohnson1980 (talk) 22:28, 13 January 2020 (UTC)).
United States government publications
Hi, Praxidicae. I hope I'm not being a cotton-headed ninny muggins, but I have reverted this edit, in which you removed content with the edit summary "copyvio https://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/digicolls/cummings/biography.html". Text published by the United States government is not subject to copyright, and indeed there is a page on the web site www.nlm.nih.gov which explicitly says that content may be freely reused. The web site requests (but does not require) acknowledgement of the source, which is why I made an edit providing acknowledgement in an edit summary. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 16:38, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- JBW, just remember to include Template:Include-NIH in the document. Plus, content shouldn't be wholesale copy-pasted from Gov't sources most of the time. (and that sandbox needs references. But it's not your sandbox, so a lot of that is not your problem. Bkissin (talk) 17:35, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Bkissin: Thanks for pointing that out. As far as I recall I had never come across Template:Include-NIH before. I have in the past been aware of other, similar, templates, so if I had remembered them I might have looked for that one, but I didn't remember them. As for not copying content wholesale, I totally agree. In fact, content from almost all sources, government or otherwise, should not be copied wholesale, for many reasons, one of which I mentioned on the talk page of the author of the draft. However, as you say, it's not my sandbox, and I don't intend to attempt to deal with all the issues that I have noticed. I will, though, mention Template:Include-NIH to the author. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 20:03, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'm honestly not sure this falls under PD because I'm fairly sure it was provided by his employer at the time (but I don't care enough to dig into it. Frankly, I'd tag it g11 too!;)) Praxidicae (talk) 20:04, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Renaming
Due to some typos that were made I eventually decided upon Cucibdua as the username i'll like to be renamed as at my change request entry. That's the only reason I've unfortunately got three separate rename requests at the moment. Additionally I replied at every rename request with the message "Cucibdua is the username i'll like to be renamed to at my change request entry". Can you thus go on to acknowledge my rationale for such and eventually go on to fully approve the renaming of my username to Cucibdua? Silverfish4 (talk) 19:26, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not a renamer. But before you make requests you should generally be sure and more importantly, just respond at your original request. Seems like common sense. Praxidicae (talk) 20:25, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Re:
Because it is a LTA in zh.wiki(zh:Category:坦帕灣光芒460的維基用戶分身),all user blocked in zh.wiki/global lock because their can Looks like a duck to me.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 11:56, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Well stop, MCC214 unless you want to be blocked here too. Praxidicae (talk) 11:58, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- You don't like I do this,I can stop it.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 11:38, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Sandbox page
Hello Praxidicae:
I filled in information about myself on my sandbox page as that seemed to be a requirement, but I am not sure that is the information that is being requested. Could you please review at your convenience and advise what else you need so that my submission on Murphy Cross can be reactivated? I am a work acquaintance of Ms. Cross, not a personal friend, and only have worked with her briefly twice. I was searching for information on a different subject (Larry Haines) and saw where a series in which she starred linked to a dead page, so I thought I would try to help by supplying further information, but I am not sure what I did wrong.
Thank you for your assistance and patience.
MelissaSmith23MelissaSmith23 (talk) 20:49, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Rejected draft CAEplex
Hello Praxidicae. Thank you very much for your time and effort you are giving to Wikipedia. It is due to people like you that he have such a trustful body of knowledge.
I know that you rejected my draft CAEplex due to non-reliable sources and advertisement-like article. I hereby appeal to your experience in order to help me out understand what the article is missing. If you allow me, I would like to explain what I am trying to achieve. First, the kind of solution that CAEplex provides is not know for the vast majority of engineers in the field of Finite element method, which are used to traditional desktop-based software. So I want to spread the base of people that are aware that something like this exists, and the best way to achieve that is through Wikipedia. This is a fact but I cannot cite any source rather than personal experience. On the other hand, there are at least two other similar(ish) platforms that indeed have an accepted entry in Wikipedia, whose sections and content I tried to reproduce in my article. I have now added them to the "See also" section, but they are CONSELF and SimScale. Also, the first and only clod CAD platform, Onshape also has a similar kind of content. I even explicitly avoided adding more screenshots because these other entries do not have any. To sum up, based on your experience and what is your opinion about what the draft CAEplex needs to have in order to be on the same level as these other entries? Once again, thank you very much. Kuroshivo (talk) 09:23, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- No comment on this issue? I will try to further change the content to match even further other alread-accepted pages and submit the draft again. Kuroshivo (talk) 09:18, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Pace, Architecture, Engineering + Planning
Hi There,
I created the page and see that you have deleted it. In my efforts to create a listing that meets the requirements of Wikipedia, are you able to provide guidance on the expectations of the content? I had thought that I had created a robust and well-sourced article so any comments would be greatly appreciated.
- Please don't include text of articles on talk pages. Please read the links given on the draft notice to give you guidance. Praxidicae (talk) 13:56, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Carsten Isensee
Hi Praxidicae, please, please, please, you have put a "Speedy Deletion" template to the article "Carsten Isensee", which is the new CEO of SEAT. We have not intended to make an advertising or promotional article, simply give information about this person and his responsibility in the most important automobile manufacturing company in Spain. A friend, the editor "Koratai" asked me for help because she had created an incomplete draft, without references or categories. All the CEOs of the big companies are on Wikipedia and we want to write an informative and encyclopedic article with more information and references, but we need time to ask for the collaboration of more editors or seek help in the Wikiproject Biographies. Please give us some time, thank you very much--Pesca59 (talk) 18:32, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Pesca59 I tagged it, I did not delete it, however I strongly advise you read WP:COI and WP:PAID before continuing to edit further and refrain from editing directly about such things in mainspace. Praxidicae (talk) 18:35, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
La Reina Shaw AfD issue
Hi - I saw you reverted my addition of La Reina Shaw at Articles for Deletion. I messed up my edit summaries at both the article page and at today's AfD by failing to include "(2nd nomination)", resulting in broken links. What do I need to do to fix the issue? --Damon Killian (talk) 22:16, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
- I already fixed it. Praxidicae (talk) 22:16, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Misunderstanding
Dear you have requested for deleting my article Operation Swift Retort but you have not checked that i have added 4 new references this time how come you have missed that ?
https://www.geo.tv/latest/263717-only-22-urdu-films-released-in-pakistan-in-2019 (They have mentioned that Pakistan released first animated film in 2019 , the film is mentioned) https://dunyanews.tv/en/Entertainment/525076-22-Urdu-films-released-Pakistan-2019- http://mag.dunya.com.pk/index.php/showbiz/1556/2020-01-05 (this is a Urdu Magazine newspaper of Dunya News mentioning about film and detail) https://www.ukfilmreview.co.uk/post/operation-swift-retort-short-film-review (Review about the film)
All references are new how come you have not approved this ? need explanation.
Memon KutianaWala (talk) 08:33, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
You marked valid edit as Spam
I added good updated content to the RV terms page, you marked as spam. Why? The content is valid the link is good. It has no spam. There are spammy links on the page but the citation I gave was not. Your thoughts?
- No you're adding a spam link. Praxidicae (talk) 18:11, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Can you help me understand how this link would be spam?
It only provides information.
- It's obvious SEO spam. These "guide" blogs are nothing but spammy seo trash. Praxidicae (talk) 18:18, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
I think that is harsh. i have over 20 years working in this field and am working hard on great content from question I receive everyday. Have you ever looked at the older content I was updating? It is outdated and the panel info I provided was concise, cited and accurate.
- Well you've just answered your own question then. Praxidicae (talk) 18:21, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
What does that mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:BB09:6A00:3C:C0A:F694:71B4 (talk) 18:22, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
How are these links any different? Key RV Terms You Need To Know". Maintain My RV. Retrieved 7 July 2015.
https://www.improvesummer.com/best-rv-deep-cycle-battery/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:BB09:6A00:3C:C0A:F694:71B4 (talk) 18:25, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
My opinion is you just made Wikipedia less informative or will keep content that is not cited. Either way, I disagree, How do I file a complaint? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:BB09:6A00:3C:C0A:F694:71B4 (talk) 18:34, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Nevermind, I found it. Someone hadn't edited away that content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:BB09:6A00:3C:C0A:F694:71B4 (talk) 18:40, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
You could have been helpful and welcoming to a new user, you were not
Instead of being so terse, you could have helped a new user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:BB09:6A00:3C:C0A:F694:71B4 (talk) 18:50, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Regarding article Nitish Bahalwala
I again confirm it was not for advert or promo purpose and had sole intention for people to know about the author whom I have met and have seen the author felicitation.
I have removed the images that may infer the source of conflict of interest and absence of neutral point of view. I request you to suggest me where to remove promotional content that the article achieves its neutral status and no way a promo. Bishal Baishya 14:02, 19 January 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bishalbaishya2012 (talk • contribs)
I personally assure that I too trust wikipedia to be absent or adverts and will cooperate my best to make it ever expanding encylopedia absent of promos. Bishal Baishya 14:03, 19 January 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bishalbaishya2012 (talk • contribs)
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you use Wikipedia for promotion or advertising. Praxidicae (talk) 13:02, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
I didnt create this wiki for advertising purposes or for promoting. I'm just trying to make a wiki that has accurate information about "Yuni Wa" for the over 10 million people that have streamed "Yuni Wa's" music. I just want to contribute positively to Wikipedia and make a accurate profile for this notable artist @Praxidicae:.
- No you're writing fabricated nonsense and spamming yourself. Praxidicae (talk) 14:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Regarding articles for "Esther Rose Featherstone" and "Swoove"
Thanks for your feedback. As you can probably tell I'm pretty new to Wikipedia so I based the above articles on those for "Beto Pérez" and "Zumba" as they were the closest in content to what I wanted to write. I am not affiliated with, or paid by anyone or any company, that have wikpedia articles I have edited. I have now stated this on my user page. Do you think this will influence the decision to delete by Jimfbleak? Thanks in advance. Pcogle 15:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Pcogle No because they were both blatant promo. Can you please explain how you became the copyright holder of these images? Praxidicae (talk) 15:58, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
I was not meaning to write promotion, just state the facts as I know them, in the exact same manner as the Zumba page. I am the copyright holder of the photographs at these locations because I took the photographs with my own camera. I was at the events referenced in the meta-data. Pcogle 16:17, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Pcogle Given you took a personal photo, I assume you have some sort of conflict of interest and would encourage you to read said policy and disclose as required. Praxidicae (talk) 16:44, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps
You should be an admin? Unless I am mistaken and you are already? I think you would be great at it.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:47, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- I am not and don't really have the desire to be an admin here. But thank you for your kind words. :) Praxidicae (talk) 17:50, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- ThatMontrealIP I legit thought he/she was already an Admin before discovering they weren’t. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone work round the clock like they do, this isn’t an hyperbolic statement. They literally work round the clock. No lie. Celestina007 (talk) 23:32, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Some bubble tea for you!
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You are on a roll, against churnalism. Here is something to charge you. DBigXrayᗙ 19:49, 19 January 2020 (UTC) |
- DBigXray heh thanks. This is actually part of a much larger problem that I found today relating to several sources which are very widely used, so AFD is about to get flooded and I suspect several dozen UPE accounts are going to be found. Praxidicae (talk) 19:49, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Praxidicae, yes, WP:UPE is a perennial problem. Glad to know that you are doing your bit to fix the problem. However based on what I have seen, I will advise not to take more than a few (e.g. 5) articles from a particular editor in a day. IMHO the community does not appreciate overwhelming the creators with AfD. So may be, you can mark it in your Sandbox and nominate the remaining later. Just some friendly advice. regards.--DBigXrayᗙ 19:57, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not worried, it's not just this editor that I was referring to, it just happened that two of their articles appeared on my Watchlist while doing some work finding the rest. Praxidicae (talk) 20:02, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Praxidicae, yes, WP:UPE is a perennial problem. Glad to know that you are doing your bit to fix the problem. However based on what I have seen, I will advise not to take more than a few (e.g. 5) articles from a particular editor in a day. IMHO the community does not appreciate overwhelming the creators with AfD. So may be, you can mark it in your Sandbox and nominate the remaining later. Just some friendly advice. regards.--DBigXrayᗙ 19:57, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- DBigXray heh thanks. This is actually part of a much larger problem that I found today relating to several sources which are very widely used, so AFD is about to get flooded and I suspect several dozen UPE accounts are going to be found. Praxidicae (talk) 19:49, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Answer
Hi, I just answered the message you left on my Talk page. Thanks. ERIKnoUniverso (talk) 00:41, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I wrote an article on Lumen (app) and I thought I remained completely neutral when adding the content. However, you flagged it for being somehow promoting advertisements. Can you please tell me exactly where I gave the impression of being biased and one sided. Thanks Jamalpasha1992 (talk) 22:30, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
The consequences of the Jeff Young (DJ) AfD for radio articles
I have read your rationale for the deletion of the Jeff Young (DJ) article in relation to "independent, reliable coverage". The problem is, your rationale as to what meets general notability guidelines which you successfully used to delete the Jeff Young article would also sink a lot of radio related articles, including for more famous disc jockeys and individuals within the radio industry, radio stations and radio industry articles and particularly in the UK. A lot of UK radio articles use either the BBC (radio broadcaster) or Radio Today (industry media outlet) as a source which you clearly and confidently stated failed GNG for Jeff Young's now deleted article.
Technically, Chris Evans, a far more famous DJ and presenter, would fail your rationale as the vast majority of citations on his article are for a former employer (the BBC) and therefore could be fair game for AfD. But I suspect Chris Evans article going to AfD would draw attention from outside of Wikipedia.
Your call, but you would have a field day with radio articles (particularly UK ones) on Wikipedia. --tgheretford (talk) 21:19, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- I honestly can’t tell if you’re encouraging me to afd more articles to be deleted or not. Praxidicae (talk) 23:04, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- Usually when people play WP:OSE deletion chicken with me, I just go for it. Sounds like encouragement to me! Bkissin (talk) 00:17, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- it also sounds like a threat with the “drawing attention outside of Wikipedia” comment but I really can’t tell. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Praxidicae (talk) 00:53, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, sounds like a threat. I don't think Chris Evans (who I didn't realize was a different Chris Evans) would pass an AfD anyway, seeing as he is a presenter on Top Gear. Shows how much I've paid attention to Top Gear since they fired Clarkson. Bkissin (talk) 01:29, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- yeah but I might get “outside attention”! :,) #veryscary Praxidicae (talk) 01:31, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Chris Evans (presenter) is a terrible example, as there is literally craptons of secondary coverage about him out there - his article would not be deleted at AfD, despite what Tghe-retford says. Notability is about what coverage is available (or not), not about what's in the article already when nominated. Prax's rationale of "This doesn't appear to be a notable DJ [...] the subject lacks in depth, independent coverage" specifies that there isn't SIGCOV (which the closer noted was the consensus established by policy/guideline argument). This same rationale would not apply to Chris Evans due to the substantial amount of SIGCOV available for him. Waggie (talk) 01:37, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, sounds like a threat. I don't think Chris Evans (who I didn't realize was a different Chris Evans) would pass an AfD anyway, seeing as he is a presenter on Top Gear. Shows how much I've paid attention to Top Gear since they fired Clarkson. Bkissin (talk) 01:29, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- it also sounds like a threat with the “drawing attention outside of Wikipedia” comment but I really can’t tell. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Praxidicae (talk) 00:53, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'm being serious. As for the "craptons of secondary coverage", they don't appear to be cited within the article I quoted as an example. --tgheretford (talk) 21:14, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- Tghe-retford please clarify what you mean by “attracting outside attention” thanks. Praxidicae (talk) 21:27, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- Eh, it's probably something along the lines of "I'll go to the press" and the Guardian will write an article about how Wikipedia is biased against a local BBC presenter and it will be 'very embarrassing for us. Bkissin (talk) 21:33, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- As far as AfD is concerned, it's not about whether it's cited in the article, it's about whether it exists. Obviously, it should be in the article (as appropriate for a quality article), but is not required for the purposes of determining notability in an AfD discussion - this is why WP:BEFORE is required before nominating an article. Others have commented that Evans' work on Top Gear and other places may confer notability, but it's the real secondary coverage to support that can be summarized into content for an article, that matters per WP:GNG and WP:ENT. The only time we should be deleting an article for a notable subject at AfD is when the article itself is un-salvageable and would require a complete rewrite. Waggie (talk) 21:29, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- But this is getting off track with the whole "attracting outside attention" bit, which may border on WP:THREAT. Tghe-retford, I apologize for the snark on my end, but having found a copy of the deleted article on a Wiki mirror site, I have to agree with Prax's call here (maybe not the speedy, perhaps move to draftspace, but hindsight is 20/20). The sources from Camp Soul Fest and Summer Soulstice would not really be considered Wikipedia:Reliable sources, JazzFM has the conflict of interest or would be promotional since he works there, and sources from the Beeb and the Independent mention his name once (not exactly Wikipedia:Significant coverage). With your Chris Evans example, he has had several significant profiles in the media, and some of his behaviour has led to notability outside presenting. It seems like you are doing great work, and you should keep it up, but this one still needed some work. Bkissin (talk) 22:01, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- Tghe-retford please clarify what you mean by “attracting outside attention” thanks. Praxidicae (talk) 21:27, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- Usually when people play WP:OSE deletion chicken with me, I just go for it. Sounds like encouragement to me! Bkissin (talk) 00:17, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
three more to track
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all have same target IP address and all seem to cross over with the other source spamfarm. Yet all from three different countries. Hmm <thinking person emoji> — billinghurst sDrewth 11:30, 20 January 2020 (UTC) Hello, I wrote an article on Lumen (app) and I thought I remained completely neutral when adding the content. However, you flagged it for being somehow promoting advertisements. Can you please tell me exactly where I gave the impression of being biased and one sided. Thanks
Article Fred Opert
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Fred_Opert
I am intrigued to learn how you could come to an assumption that I am being paid to set up a Wiki page on Fred Opert. I assure you I am not.
Perhaps a brief background will help. In the seventies I was a freelance motorsport journalist in New Zealand where I briefly met Opert when he bought his team to compete and twice win the Peter Stuyvestant series with future world champion Keke Rosberg.
I have written a book about Opert which has yet to be published.
In the 1960s and ‘70s Opert was a notable motorsport personality, he had a significant impact on formula racing in the USA and Canada before going on to enter his team in Formula Two in Europe and finally managing a Formula 1 team, ATS.
I believe that people interested in motorsport will get benefit from a Wikipedia page about the man. Peter.R.Hill (talk) 01:43, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- well primarily because when you look at worldcat the first thing that comes up is a book by someone named Pete Hill that is yet to be released. Hope that clarified things, Peter.R.Hill. Praxidicae (talk) 02:33, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
I have always made it clear that I have written a book about Opert, I raised that in my very first interaction with a Wiki helper and told you, above. No one is paying me to create a page about him. I have not in any way promoted the (yet to be published) book. Just to be clear, I haven’t been paid for the book either. The page can stand on its own merits as providing information about a notable motorsport personality. Peter.R.Hill (talk) 04:08, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
I am waiting for your reply.
So, you made a hell in the Asuka Sato's article, putting opinion, impressions and bias to judge what is or not relevant/reliable and you were very speedy to do so. I wrote you a reply and I'm waiting for yours. I would appreciate your speed in this matter too, as you seem to be replying others. ERIKnoUniverso (talk) 04:20, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Delta 89
"But I guess congrats to the kids who are gonna get their college tuition paid for!" Thank you for the chuckle. :D sixtynine • whaddya want? • 05:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
another section someone didn't bother to make
Hello Praxidicae. You norminated DJ WilSAF for deletion why. He is notable and meets the Notability criteria WikiShr3dda (talk) 23:06, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- WikiShr3dda you can clearly read the whys with an extended reasoning at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DJ WilSAF. Praxidicae (talk) 01:20, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Praxidicae In the sources currently at footnote #1 and #4 you can see that these are two reliable news sources from Sierra Leone which clearly shows that he is notable here WikiShr3dda (talk) 06:05, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) @WikiSh3dda: The correct venue to discuss this is the AFD Praxidicae linked above. -- a they/them | argue | contribs 13:23, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
What is the reason behind decline
Please point out so that I can fix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Knowledge_Lens — Preceding unsigned comment added by Storiesbyjerry (talk • contribs) 05:01, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi Praxidicae,
Can you look into the above MfD and, specifically, the most recent reply/!vote by the IP editor who notes the nom's potential COI/paid editing? I noted you've provided at least two Twinkle warnings to the editor, along with another IP editor doing the same, and in your most recent edit, you advised the editor to not edit further until the editor responds to that warning and provides appropriate clarification.
Cheers,
--Doug Mehus T·C 23:25, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
January 2020 Deletion
Hi Praxidicae, I'm not being compensated in any way for the Osano article. I am just a fellow Texan who just thinks they are a cool company, lately they have gotten a ton of press, and I was surprised to see that there was no Wikipedia article for a company that is being talked about so consistently.