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April 18

Mukkadarpur Ka Majnu (Jpg)

I am just Informed That I am the producer of the film called Mukkadarpur Ka Majnu and that poster belongs to my film and it was designed by my team of designers, how I am violating Copywrite act...

please Help me.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mukkadarpur Ka Majnu (talk • contribs) 09:14, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Mukkadarpur Ka Majnu:Basically, with rare exceptions, all creative works in fixed form are copyrighted. This includes that poster. I do not know the specific contractual details of copyright within your team or organization, but whoever owns the copyright (probably not you personally) will need to formally license the copyright under a compatible free license before you can upload it to Wikimedia commons. If you do not wish to license it that way, then it cannot be uploaded to Commons. You may have the right to act on behalf of the copyright holder: if so, you did not violate copyright law. However, you did not conform to our rules, so you cannot upload to our web site. -Arch dude (talk) 15:34, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Notability

Is this article, Eshakchi is notable enough to be in Wikipedia? CyberTroopers (talk) 09:36, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

CyberTroopers, WP:GEOLAND has guidance on that. More sources would be good, obviously. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:26, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång Thank you.CyberTroopers (talk) 10:54, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

How to delete my account

I want a new account i do not like my name how to delete account please per gdpr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsla1337 (talk • contribs)

Hello Tsla1337. An account cannot be deleted. However, you can change your username by going to either Special:GlobalRenameRequest or Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple. Interstellarity (talk) 11:41, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

User page protection

It says in WP:UPPROT that "Base user pages (for example, the page User:Example, and not User:Example/subpage or User talk:Example) are automatically protected from creation or editing by unconfirmed accounts and anonymous IP users." (emphasis is mine)

But my user page was vandalised by a troll here who doesn't have a confirmed account and yesterday an unconfirmed account accidentally sent a warning to my user page [1].--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 11:44, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@SharabSalam: If you feel that your user page needs to be protected, you can request page protection at WP:RPP. Interstellarity (talk) 11:51, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) SharabSalam, the first was an autoconfirmed user, who waited since the 26th and then made exactly 10 completely pointless edits to become autoconfirmed. The second was also autoconfirmed, having registered on the 17th, and making 20 edits prior.

If you are interested, you can see what the filter has prevented being done to your user page at [2] (no idea how to properly link to that)

~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 12:01, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Alex Noble, thanks! I had no idea about this. I thought an account become confirmed when it has 500 edits and it has been registered for 30 days. When does an account become "autoconfirmed"?--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 12:25, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@SharabSalam: Autoconfirmed is 4 days and 10 edits. Extended confirmed is 30 days and 500 edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:37, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Aha I see. I never had time to read these user access levels. Thanks.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 12:49, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Wiki article

how do I create a wiki article? Yeetyman123 (talk) 13:41, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Yeetyman123, we recommend new users follow the steps at wp:your first article. Creating a new article from scratch is one of the harder tasks here, and we would encourage you to become acclimatised to our policies by editing existing articles first. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 14:47, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

SHROPSHIRE COUNTY CRICKETERS LISTED

MISSING - PETER MORRIS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.70.60.53 (talk) 13:51, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm guessing this is about a player named Peter Morris missing from Shropshire County Cricket Club#Notable players? I don't see a Wikipedia article for a relevant Peter Morris. The section should only list notable people about whom there is (or is likely to be) a Wikipedia article. (Please don't SHOUT). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 14:46, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Please confirm the page that you are enquiring about: The only Wikipedia article I can find about a cricketer of that name is this one, who played for Auckland in New Zealand. Lists of persons of a particular description would typically only contain names of those who have Wikipedia articles. WP:NCRIC shows the criteria for cricketers to be considered notable, (I.e. worthy of a Wikipedia article). If Morris did not play first class cricket he is unlikley to pass the guideline. There is a category, Category:Shropshire cricketers but again, players are included in that by adding the category to an existing article. Please do not write in 'all-caps' and please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:58, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Editing and font change

Hello,

I just added a paragraph, but the original material below my addition suddenly changed its font. What do I do?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Congregational_Church_and_Cemetery Maineshepp (talk) 14:44, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Maineshepp, when a new line starts with a space, it places it into a box for some reason. I've fixed it. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 14:45, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Not "for some reason". That is the wikitext convention for what is called "preformat" in HTML, and is used when you wish to display text with a fixed-pitch font instead of a variable-pitch font. The leading example of this is for displaying computer source code. -Arch dude (talk) 15:18, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Arch dude: I wonder if anyone actually uses it for that, as we have better ways of doing it (pre, source, code, etc.). I was going to respond, but couldn't actually find it documented. The only times I see it used recently are mistakes. Has there been any talk of deprecating it? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 16:37, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

I have no idea. I'm guessing this is deeply embedded in the Wikimedia software and that it was inherited from the ancient days of earlier wiki software. -Arch dude (talk) 18:11, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

I made a mistake

I logged out of my account and activated my vpn, than tried to log back in. This resulted in my IP address getting blocked, I can edit from my usual account but can’t create new accounts. I was planning on creating a bot account after my first one was involved in an incident and cruelly executed. I’d wait it out if the block was for a month or so but it’s for a really long period. Thanks, Rodrigo Valequez^(🗣) 15:53, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

My IP adress keeps getting blocked, and unblocked, and blocked again, and unblocked again.. Rodrigo Valequez^(🗣) 15:56, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Rodrigo Valequez, My advice would be to not create a bot until you have a very solid understanding of WP policy, and the existing bots. Before running any bot automated tasks, you would need approval from the bot approval group. Bots can cause a lot of damage, even if well intentioned and made, which is why their code and purpose are closely scrutinized by our tech experts. Looking at your last bot, it looks like you wanted to use it to fix typos. We already have a semi-automated typo fixing program, called auto-wiki browser that automates grammar fixes, but does require human oversight, because sometimes typos or grammar errors can be misread by bot syntax. You will also need to apply for permission to use AWB, as it is a very powerful tool. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 19:02, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

​ Well, thanks. Rodrigo Valequez^(🗣) 09:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Also I'm pretty sure you're slightly mistaken as to what's going on. Your VPN provider is probably flagged as an open proxy because people can use it to edit abusively. Wikipedia (and all Wikimedia wikis) uses TorBlock to prevent logged-out editing from such hosts. You can still edit from them while logged in to an account. (New account creation is also disabled because it would largely defeat the purpose; people could just create tons of accounts for abuse.) --47.146.63.87 (talk) 00:09, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Access date when editing an incomplete citation

I'm completing a citation that only consisted of an URL when it was first posted. Could anyone please tell me if I should put today's access date, or try to find out when it was added to the article? It's an online news article with a publication date, for the record, but my OCD made me feel guilty about not trying to find an answer to the question of what the access date should be, so sorry to annoy anybody who reads this.--Thylacine24 (talk) 16:29, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

The access date is supposed to be the "date a cite template's |url= parameter was last successfully accessed", so if you've visited the source's URL and confirmed that the source still supports the cited information, you should enter the date on which you accessed the source. Deor (talk) 17:17, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for telling me. Just finished fixing it. (Note: Changed signature due to being logged out when I first signed. Sorry about that.) (Further note: Fixed it incorrectly, and forgot to add another edit note here, and not just in the edit summary. Sorry yet again.)--Thylacine24 (talk) 17:33, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Deor and Thylacine24: At Template:Cite web/doc#URL, bullet url(access-date) starts Full date when the content pointed to by url was last verified to support the text in the article. Based on this, I suppose you could set it to the date the bare URL was cited, but I think leaving it out is reasonable. Unless, of course, you're willing to verify the cited material against the source (please ), in which case, set it to the date you verified it. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:56, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@AlanM1: Could you please tell me if you mean that I should search the page's history to see if I can find when the article's URL was first cited? I'll try to do it in lieu of no access date at all, but since you seem to be disagreeing with Template:Deor, I feel conflicted.--Thylacine24 (talk) 18:51, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

I believe that the access date should either be left blank, or should give a date at which the source was actually accessed. Setting it to the date at which the bare url was cited might not do that – for instance, if the bare url had been copied from another article without checking. Maproom (talk) 07:02, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Maproom Thanks for telling me that.--Thylacine24 (talk) 15:09, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

No, no, no. |access-date= holds the date that the cited source, an ephemeral url, supported the content of the en.wiki article. Checking the url to see that it doesn't 404 and using the date of such a check as the access date has no value. Please, check the source to see that it supports the en.wiki article. Hunting back through the article history (using WP:WIKIBLAME can help – alas, it's down right now) to find the date that the original url was added to the en.wiki article can serve as a good date to start from when looking for an archive of that ephemeral url.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:31, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Spelling Dictionary for Source Editor

When I am using the source editor, I sometimes see words underscored in red, which seems to indicate that they do not pass a spelling check against a spelling dictionary. Where is the spelling dictionary located? Alternatively, what Windows 10 application is being used by the source editor to do the spell check? I think that I am asking this question in the right place rather than at the computing Reference Desk because it is specific to editing Wikipedia. (At least, it has to do with editing Wikipedia. Until I know what Windows 10 app I am using, I won't know whether I am using it somewhere else also.) Robert McClenon (talk) 16:44, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: It's probably your browser's spellcheck. Danski454 (talk) 17:39, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: You can probably disable it by right-clicking in the edit window and un-checking something like "Check spelling". —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:59, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, User:Danski454, User:AlanM1 - I will follow up at the Computing Reference Desk about the Firefox spell check. I wasn't asking about turning it off, but I would like to be able to add words to it. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:03, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: I don't know about editing the dictionary directly, but if you right-click on a red-underlined word, it gives the option to "Add to dictionary". —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 18:06, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Editing signature on help desk

I accidentally forgot to log in before responding to an answer I had requested here, and edited it afterward, which I then screwed up, fixed, and forgot to add a parenthetical note about my second signature-related edit, which I then added on a fourth edit. Sorry about all that. I know I'm asking for forgiveness instead of permission here, but could anyone please tell me if fixing a signature in this way is acceptable here?--Thylacine24 (talk) 17:44, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Thylacine24, I don't think anyone is going to begrudge if you fix it. In fact, its better to claim logged out edits you make by accident, rather than just leaving them. It helps clarify conversations, and prevents people from thinking you're trying to log out on purpose. Its not a big deal. But do try to stay logged in whenever possible, since editing with your IP is actually less anonymous than editing with your account. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 18:55, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for telling me. (Edit: And now I just made the same mistake again, and had to edit it, sorry.) (Further edit, which I'm sorry I didn't confess earlier: this whole post was OCD-motivated, but I still think it was worth asking, and I found Template:Captain Eek's response informative. This particular confession was also OCD-motivated.) (One last edit: I accidentally put down two identical signatures, but removed one in the same edit that I'm writing this. Sorry about that!)--Thylacine24 (talk) 19:19, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Color code table

Hi! I need help to add colour coding for the tables in articles List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_NCT and NCT discography. Basically, this is a page that shows a long list of releases by an umbrella music group as well as by many of its individual sub-groups. It used to be a short list, but with newer releases added every year, I reckon it is now becoming quite confusing especially for readers who come to this article with the purpose to look at only the content related to a certain sub-group. (Context: these units carry out most activities independently - very few activities under the umbrella group name as a whole).

Color coding the table rows by the sub-group would make it easier for the readers , although I'm not sure where to start with color coding... also, if you have seen somewhere an article that has this table color coding system nicely in place - something I can reference to work on it - would be much much appreciated. Much thanks for your guidance! :) --PeaceNT (talk) 17:45, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@PeaceNT: I was going to suggest, for WP:ACCESSIBILITY, adding a column for the sub-group, but I think you're referring to the Recipient column in the awards article? If so, in source editor, you can color a table cell by adding style="background-color:#xxxxxx" | before the value. If the '|' is already there because of rowspans, etc., place the style before the existing '|'. For example, change:

• | NCT 127

to:

• | style="background-color:#88FFFF" | NCT 127

or

• | rowspan="8" | NCT 127

to:

• | rowspan="8" style="background-color:#88FFFF" | NCT 127

Example:

Year	Recipient	Nominated work	Award	Result	Ref.
2017	NCT 127	NCT 127	New Artist of the Year	Won

If there is already a style="something" there, just add to it like this: style="something; background-color:#xxxxxx".

Use {{Legend}} or one of its alternatives to produce a color key. Also note the WP:ACCESSIBILITY guidelines for color contrast. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 18:24, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks! I will revise the tables this way. Much appreciated, --PeaceNT (talk) 19:00, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Vanishing Account

Hello, I recently tried to create an account in my own name. Wikipedia sent me an email to verify my identity which indicated that I had about 6 hours to respond by clicking on a specified link in the email. When I clicked on the link a page opened that indicated that the link was expired. I was able to get into my account preferences page which also had a similar verification button at the bottom of the page (which I assume was to verify edits to the page). I clicked on the button and got a similar email to which I responded. I got the same message about an expired link. When I backed up to my account preferences page to try again, the account preferences page was gone. It appears that my account was deleted. Why? Allyn Shell (talk) 19:18, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Accounts cannot be deleted. I guess you were not looking at Special:Preferences but at your user page User:Allyn Shell. It's optional for users to create a user page. Before you did so after posting here, the page would have said: "Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact title. In general, this page should be created and edited by User:Allyn Shell". The email with the link is only to verify your email address so email features can be enabled. It sounds like your mail software failed to copy the full link when you clicked it. Try copying the address directly to your browser address bar. It's optional to associate an email address with your account. You need it if you forget your password. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:00, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Article classification

Hello, I recently had an article Luke Swann accepted which was brilliant! I got a message saying it was assessed as a 'start-class' article. I have tried looking for this confirmation on the articles talk page but I can't seem to find where it says 'start-class'? Could you please advise as to where it confirms the current article status. Many thanks Pegs50

@Pegs50: Some content is omitted in the mobile version. Most editors use the desktop version. Click "Desktop" at the bottom of Talk:Luke Swann to see the desktop version. It currently says Stub-class but the first version said Start-class. Click the "View history" tab and then the oldest time stamp to see it. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:18, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Who may edit a page about someone who is deceased?

Hello; my niece and I wanted to edit a page that was posted by someone (not us) about my mother. My mother passed away last year and, because she was a notable political figure in our home state, someone picked up the obituary and created a page on her. I stumbled upon it and wanted to edit it to add details which are verifiable and referenced. My niece and I spent some time working on it, but then when she was ready to post, she was told that a family member may not edit a page about someone.

Please advise, who can? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:1314:42F5:2420:7D78:6F46:BDD5 (talk) 20:59, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Per our conflict of interest policy, please make the proposal for the changes on the article talk page. If other contributors feel they are valuable, they may add it for you. Also, my deepest condolences to you and your family. El_C 21:03, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

April 19

Ax09tongo

Wikipedia is a puzzle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ax09tongo78 (talk • contribs)

@Ax09tongo78: This is your third post asserting that Wikipedia is a puzzle. Please either explain how we can help you understand it better - or just stop posting pointless remarks. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:22, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Based on [3] it may be a reference to our logo. See Wikipedia logo and Wikipedia:Wikipedia logos#The third logo (the puzzle ball). PrimeHunter (talk) 01:38, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Vertical lines in Wikipedia charts

Hi, I am trying to plot a line graph using this Template:Graph:Chart. Is there a way to draw vertical and horizontal lines(Not the grids) parallel to axes? I already asked about this in Wikipedia:Teahouse and Template talk:Graph:Chart, didn't get anything from there. My last option is plot in python and upload a PNG. Timbaaa (talk) 02:00, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Image non-free fair use

I wrote an article about the game I'm playing (haven't uploaded it yet), but got stuck at the image adding part. Can I upload the game's icon (screenshots too maybe?) under non-free use? If I post it under fair use non-free content, will everyone be able to see the article I upload? And where I can find the full text of the license with a ban on any changes to the uploaded materials? The images I want to use are on the game's website, so it should be fine if I just credit it right?

You can write an article about any subject that is notable. Notability requires that the subject has been described, not just mentioned, in several reliable sources (WP:RS). This is really easy to get wrong: see Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability). If you cannot establish notability, your article will deleted. Everything in your article must come from reliable sources. The article cannot include observations that you have made during game play, as that would be original research, and that's a no-no. See WP:OR. The use of non-free images in highly restricted: please see Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline. Each image must meet all ten(!) of the requirements. There is no license and therefore no "full text". The concept of fair use is the use of copyrighted material without the need for any permission or license of the copyright holder under these highly restricted circumstances. -Arch dude (talk) 06:33, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello this's avinav yadav i want to request plz publish my page on wikipedia because Google or my cricketing carrier show on Google so please publish my page

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Avinav yadavPersonal informationFull nameAvinav yadavBorn16 March 2004 (age 16) Madar,siraha-16, NepalNicknameAvi [1]Height5 ft 5 in (1.65 m)BattingRight-handedBowlingSlow Right-arm off-breakRoleAll-rounder

Source: [1], 28 January 2019

Avinav yadav (born 16 march 2004) is an Nepalese cricketer

.[1] He made his debut for Kathmandu goldens in the 2019 Dhangadhi Premier League (DPL) 11 February 2019.

^ Cite error: The named reference cinfo was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

Last edited 18 days ago by Avinav yadav

Content is available under CC BY-SA 3.0 unless otherwise noted.

Terms of UsePrivacyDesktop — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avinav_kumar_yadav (talk • contribs)

@Avinav kumar yadav: There needs to be at least three professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that are specifically about you but not written by you, anyone you work with, or anyone you pay to write. Without those, there can be no article. Ian.thomson (talk) 05:02, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Avinav_kumar_yadav. While it is true that many people think that Wikipedia is an appropriate place to promote their career, that is not a purpose of Wikipedia, and people who try to use it that way often have an unpleasant and frustrating experience. Please look at what Wikipedia is not and An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. --ColinFine (talk) 10:11, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Wiki taking long time to approve

Hello!

I am trying to figure why it is taking a long time to get my wiki approved. The wiki in question is Matthew_Bridgham_(composer)

Thanks for your help!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Compoczar (talk • contribs)

I presume this is regarding Draft:Matthew Bridgham (composer) going live. Anyway, in answer to your question: times vary, especially on a volunteer project. El_C 06:24, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Two comments.

You could (and probably should) aim for the article to be titled "Matthew Bridgham". Wikipedia has no article on anyone else of that name, so the disambiguatory "(composer)" is unnecessary.

When a reviewer chooses to review your draft, they will be looking for several references to reliable independent published sources with in-depth discussion of the subject. I've looked at the first five sources cited in the draft, and they all fail the "in-depth discussion" bit. (The first does so quite amusungly, saying "I don't know about Bridgham, having heard only "Avon Yard," but Pärt is definitely a hedgehog.") In principle there's no harm including such sources, but they make things harder for a reviewer. If you're keen for the draft to be reviewed soon, I recommend ensuring that there are some some references that establish that the subject is notable, and then removing most of the others, to make it easy for a reviewer to find the good ones. (You can always put the hedgehog reference back in later, once the article has been accepted.) Maproom (talk) 07:31, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

@Compoczar: The draft has never been submitted for review. I have added a box with a submit button you can click. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:47, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Auto-Signature?

Why in God's name have you made something you want done consistently optional? I see nothing in my prefs and it's frankly irritating.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhrussell401 (talk • contribs)

Because we don't want signatures in articles, and there are instances where not all edits to signed areas need to be signed or resigned. It's literally four presses of a single character: ~~~~. Ian.thomson (talk) 06:42, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Is it like, literally? Like totally? Technology has far surpassed the point that a system can automatically recognize a logged-in user. Like literally like reddit or like literally my doctor or like literally anything I log into. I don't have to edit anything or I can like do it like literally anonymously.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhrussell401 (talk • contribs)

You can automatically add your signature on talk pages by adding {{YesAutosign}} to your user page. I believe there used to be a preference setting for this but I can no longer find it.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 10:19, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

@Jhrussell401: {{YesAutosign}} merely means you want a bot to sign for you later if you forget it. You should still sign your edits. There has been a lot of work on another discussion system without manual signatures but it's unpopular and not used in the English Wikipedia. Most users have a signature button above and/or below the edit area. It just inserts ~~~~. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

For anyone who wants a longer answer: all MediaWiki pages are just a bunch of text. This is what shows up when you edit a page if you're using the "wikitext" editor. The MediaWiki software doesn't "know" what's a "discussion" and what isn't. All it "sees" is a bunch of text. As mentioned, there's been some work on a bulletin board-style software extension for "replacing" discussion pages, but numerous editors feel it has deficiencies and currently isn't a superior replacement for the status quo. The major problem is editors use "discussion pages" in all sorts of complex ways. If the software just started tacking on signature lines every time someone saved an edit, it would make a huge mess. --47.146.63.87 (talk) 23:50, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

What is the word for "Spirit" and "Spirituality" in arabic Quoran?

Discussion not appropriate to the Help Desk, by blocked IP

I wrote a topic under “Talk Page of Spirituality” in order to add some facts based on logic, evidences & Source. I have given Source, Link, Logic & Evidence as per Wikipedia policies. But Scholars failed to provide their Source of Information & hence they decided to delete my Post. My post was deleted without giving any chance to do some corrections. If I wrote anything wrong, then I could have corrected it without arguments. Link of the talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spirituality Link of my edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Spirituality&action=edit&section=6 The topic was Spirituality. I was punished because I asked for reference about Spirituality in Quran. Is it my fault if there is no word for “Spirituality” in Quran? If there is no word for “Rocket” in Quran will you punish “Neil Armstrong”? Quran 17:85 Actually says this: And they ask you, [O Muhammad], about the soul. Say, "The soul is of the affair of my Lord. And mankind has not been given of knowledge except a little." In case if they delete this link/URL, I request you to take Quran from library & read it exactly. Today this link is active. Source: https://quran.com/17/85 ﷽ وَيَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الرُّوحِ ۖ قُلِ الرُّوحُ مِنْ أَمْرِ رَبِّي وَمَا أُوتِيتُمْ مِنَقليل My Original Post is here: - Please tell me where am I wrong? I will be thankful; In Quran I didn't find any word for spirit. Faith means belief. Please note that faith & spirituality have entirely different meanings. Spirit means Soul. Without having faith in Soul/spirit; how can there be spirituality? Spirit comes first then comes the word Spirituality; Which means "aims to recover the original shape (ie soul) of man". Source 1: Spirituality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality Source 2: Soul/Spirit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ātman_(Hinduism) In Sufism, rūḥ (Arabic: روح‎; plural arwah) is a person's immortal, essential self — pneuma, i.e. the "spirit" or "soul". The Quran itself does not describe rūḥ as the immortal self. Nevertheless, in some contexts, it animates inanimate matter. Further, it appears to be a metaphorical being, such as an angel. Thus it is proved that Ruh is not Soul & definitely not Spirituality. Source 3: Ruh & Sufism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rūḥ Ātman (/ˈɑːtmən/; Sanskrit: आत्मन्) is a Sanskrit word that means inner self, spirit, or soul. {Please read Source 2}. Soul/Spirit is the principle of life. the individual self, known after enlightenment. Spirituality is the process for gaining Enlightenment & Liberation called as Nirvana/Moksha. Spirituality is a philosophy & word taken from Indian traditions. The term meditation, Spirituality was introduced as a translation [See source 6; topic=Etymology] for Eastern spiritual practices, Now a days since world is a global village, People from middle east are adopting it wilfully although its not mentioned in their holy text. Meditation & yoga are the path towards enlightenment and self realization also called as spirituality. Source 4: Nirvana: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana Source 5: Moksha: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha Source 6: Meditation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation Meditation may be used with the aim of reducing stress, anxiety, and increasing peace, perception, self-concept (i.e. spirituality), and well-being. Meditation is under research to define its possible health (psychological, neurological, and cardiovascular) and other effects. BUT Meditation, spirituality & Soul is not discussed in Quran. The concept of an immaterial soul separate from and surviving the body is common today but according to modern scholars, it was not found in ancient Islamic beliefs. The word "nephesh never" means an "immortal soul" or an incorporeal part of the human being "that can survive death of the body" as the "spirit" of dead. The modern scholarly consensus holds that the canonical teaching of Quran made no reference to an immortal soul independent of the body. A wide range of scholarly reference works consistently represent this view. TERMINOLOGIES used in Quran & their Meanings : Jihad: Jihad (English: /dʒɪˈhɑːd/; Arabic: جهاد‎ jihād [dʒɪˈhaːd]) is an Arabic word which literally means striving or struggling, especially with a praiseworthy aim. Source 7: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad. 5 pillars of Islam : First pillar: Shahada (profession of faith), Second Pillar: Salat (Prayer), Third Pillar: Zakat (Almsgiving), Fourth Pillar: Sawm (Fasting), Fifth Pillar: Hajj (Pilgrimage). Source 8 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Pillars_of_Islam Since Jihad, 5 pillars of Islam, Sufism is not spirituality. They are all about faith & religion. Why then people mistakenly use the word spirituality instead of using word faith & belief? Please don't mix words (or use misnomers) only to satisfy & appease scholars. Does Islam accepts existence of Soul/Spirit? So please explain why these days, Muslims are using word Spiritual? Is there any chapter in Quran which discusses these things? Can anybody please give some citations/Source from Quran itself? It should be exactly written in Arabic language & possess same meaning to spirituality. If there is no chapter on soul, spirituality, Enlightenment in Islam then please write straight that; "There is no such thing called as spirituality". The key here is; "Does Islam accepts existence of Soul/Spirit?". I personally feel the topic is important to add to the page, therefore please don't delete this. Is there any hesitation in speaking truth? Ps: Sources of information can be found as mentioned above. Deletion of this talk won't change history/facts. Facts will come out again & again in books, literature & historical monuments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.5.240.38 (talk • contribs) 2020-04-19T10:52:10 (UTC) The spirit is mentioned in the Quran 17:85. Its called rūḥ.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 10:06, 19 April 2020 (UTC) I wanted Scholars to give Quote from Quran but they are giving me Quote from Sufism that too with a misnomer. Please allow me to prove my point; I have given some source & evidence but scholars have not provided me any single Quote from Quran. This is not my fault; if it’s not present in Quran.‘? If there is no word for “Rocket” in Quran will you punish “Neil Armstrong”? 1) In Sufism, rūḥ (Arabic: روح‎; plural arwah) is a person's immortal, essential self — pneuma, i.e. the "spirit" or "soul". The Quran itself does not describe rūḥ as the immortal self. Nevertheless, in some contexts, it animates inanimate matter. Further, it appears to be a metaphorical being, such as an angel. Thus it is proved that Ruh is not Soul & definitely not Spirituality. Q1 : I request you Kindly prove that I am wrong with evidence & Source. Source 9: Ruh & Sufism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rūḥ Quran 17:85 Actually says this: And they ask you, [O Muhammad], about the soul. Say, "The soul is of the affair of my Lord. And mankind has not been given of knowledge except a little." In case if they delete this link/URL, I request you to take Quran from library & read it exactly. Today this link is active. Source: https://quran.com/17/85 ﷽ وَيَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الرُّوحِ ۖ قُلِ الرُّوحُ مِنْ أَمْرِ رَبِّي وَمَا أُوتِيتُمْ مِنَقليل 2) Sufism (Persian: صوفی گری‎), or Taṣawwuf (Arabic: التَّصَوُّف‎) is considered a branch of Gnosticism. Source 10: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism 3) Sufism is not even considered true Islam by Turkey, Pakistan and many other countries. Therefore, I request you to provide direct Quote from Quran. This is my repeated polite request to provide direct link from Quran. Since Quran is the only authentic holy book ; Source 11: Anti Sufism in Islamic countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Sufis

Hello, IP user. I'm afraid that this is not the appropriate place for this discussion.

• This page is for questions about how to edit Wikipedia articles.
• If you want to raise an issue about improving a particular article in Wikipedia, please post it on that article's talk page.
• If you have a question about something, which can potentially be answered from published references, please post it on the appropriate section of the Wikipedia reference desk

But I'm afraid that there is nowhere in Wikipedia where it is appropriate to begin a discussion about a topic, other than a discussion about how to improve an article relating to the topic. --ColinFine (talk) 10:07, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes you are right "there is nowhere in Wikipedia where it is appropriate to begin a discussion about a topic". If I write at talk page, they delete my post without giving valid reasons and ask me to write here at Wikipedia:Help desk (section). From "Help desk" I am told to go to reference desk. From "refrence desk", I will be told to go back to "Talk Page" and from there again to some other page...Because there is no answer to my questions & they need to coverup somehow using force. Perhaps they will block me.

protect

Hello there I hope you're fine please help me How to protect or locked word in specific section by edit page ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Umarabubakr (talk • contribs) 19 April 2020 13:29 (UTC)

@Umarabubakr: Hello, it is not clear exactly what your query may be. Please provide a link to any article where you are encountering difficulty. If you are asking about protecting a page from vandalism or disruptive editing, you can request this at WP:RFPP. However, please be aware that a page will not be locked to your preferred version and protection is normally only applied after ongoing disruption. If you are disputing article content, please begin a discussion at the article talk page. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 13:49, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Umarabubakr:, a couple of bits here. There isn't a way to protect specific bits of an article - the whole article needs to be protected. We only do that in certain circumstances, such as if there is ongoing vandalism or disruptive edits by multiple individuals. You can request protection at requests for page protection. If you can provide some additional detail here, I can take a look for you, and provide some more targeted advice. Nosebagbear (talk) 13:51, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Umarabubakr. I see no evidence of vandalism in the articles you have been editing. Please be aware that page protection is not used to lock an article to be the way one person wants it to read. We decide the content of articles by consensus on Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 17:27, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Linking to an archived discussion

How do I construct a link to a discussion section that got archived? An example link to one of my archived questions in the Reference Desk would be helpful. 70.95.44.93 (talk) 13:50, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. I don't know a quick way to find an archive post - I found one of yours by searching for "Google Chrome won't load PDF" in the "archive search box" at WP:RD. But, having found it, I enter [[WP:Reference desk/Archives/Computing/2020 January 30#Google Chrome Won't Load PDF|Google Chrome Won't Load PDF]], and it displays as Google Chrome Won't Load PDF. (I suspect there is a template for this, but I haven't found one). --ColinFine (talk) 14:15, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

A page needs edit (based on other Wikipedia pages) but I don't want to do it

Can someone else do it?

On the Norm Lewis page, it says he was "making musical theatre history as the first African-American actor to perform in the title role in Broadway's long-running production of Phantom of the Opera.[3]"

This is incorrect.

I was watching an interview with Mr Lewis and he himself said that Robert Guillaume was the first African American to play the Phantom. And sure enough, on the Wikipedia page for Mr. Guillaume it says "Later in his stage career, he was cast in the lead role in the Los Angeles production of The Phantom of the Opera replacing Michael Crawford.[8]" (The first to replace the actor who created the role!!!)

So as much as I adore Mr Lewis, he was not the first and did not make history. Robert Guillaume did. Can someone correct this? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6c50:7a7f:ec83:491d:93aa:4cc7:45c (talk)

There is no error. Broadway theatre is 41 theatres in New York. "Broadway's long-running production of Phantom of the Opera" refers to this. The Los Angeles production is not on Broadway. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:19, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

This sort of production would be either a touring production or a regional theatre production. Rmhermen (talk) 18:03, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

When you want someone else to make an edit, you can create a new section on the article's talk page. For example, Talk:Norm Lewis is the appropriate place to propose changes for the Norm Lewis article. GoingBatty (talk) 23:18, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Page "Dalvi"

Dear Sir,

A user by name "AcharyaDevanand" is repeatedly removing references and information on this page "Dalvi". I am myself a "Dalvi" and we belong to a larger group of clan called "Marathas". This user "AcharyaDevanand" repeatedly removes any information and references that conveys this information.

What is the best way to deal with this kind of vandalism?

Best Regards.

Please, discuss your disagreements on the talk page of the article (dab page) first. Ruslik_Zero 16:31, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

AcharyaDevanand has been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet. Maproom (talk) 16:38, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Text web ignored (help)

Can you please tell me what is the procedure to resolve this type of error Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maizbhandariya (talk • contribs) 19:45, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

If this is about Muhammad Raza Saqib Mustafai, you have two malformed citation templates. They begin something like this:

{{Cite|web|url=...

The pipe (vertical bar) begins a template parameter. These templates require a parameter name, an equal sign (=) and a value. When the equal sign is omitted, the template emits the error message that you got. Because these templates do not have a parameter named web, the fix is to remove the extraneous pipe.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 20:00, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Epik.com article

Dear Sirs/Madams:

I noticed with the article on Epik.com that a few sentences need to be rearranged as to following the format shown by the other registrars articles, eg, godaddy and dynadot. If you notice you put an history comment at the beginning of the article instead of in the history section like godaddy and dynadot. If you could rearrange the sentencing where you mention how many customers epik.com has instead in the intro paragraph and then mention epik's right wing stance in the history section i would greatly appreciate it. Thank you ever so much for your time in this matter. Hope you have a great day. And stay safe out there. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wess12345 (talk • contribs)

Wess12345, the right place to bring up your ideas for the article is on Talk:Epik (domain registrar). Schazjmd (talk) 22:44, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

How to upload an acceptable image in an edit?

I want to upload a Burgess magazine advertisement into my draft of The Burgess Battery Company. How do I do it?Wdeibel (talk) 23:31, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Two stages are involved here: getting the image to Wikimedia Commons, and referring to this image file in your draft. As your draft already refers to (and thus displays) Commons images (such as this one), I infer that you know how to do the second stage. As for the first, as long as the advertisement is in the public domain (as this term is legally understood; not merely as it's understood in careless conversation, journalism, etc), you may head over to Wikimedia Commons, log in, and upload the advertisement there. -- Hoary (talk) 00:15, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Wdeibel: See Wikipedia:Public_domain for the rules on if something is public domain in the US. It will depend on when it was published and if copyright was renewed and some other factors. It can be confusing, so you may want to ask at WP:MCQ. RudolfRed (talk) 00:19, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

However, even if it's still copyrighted under a non-free license, it may still be acceptable in an article about the company as fair use. If you're fairly sure it's not out-of-copyright, take a look at Wikipedia:Plain and simple non-free content guide. But I think you're supposed to wait until the article is moved out of the Draft: space. Once it is, see Help:Uploading images. (To reiterate, all of this is only if it's not out-of-copyright. If it is public domain, put it on Commons, as described above.) --47.146.63.87 (talk) 00:28, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

April 20

Contacting user who has no user page

Hello

I want to contact a user to verify the source of his/her entry on the "Soledad Duterte" page. However, s/he does not appear to have a "talk page". And I note, when mousing over his/her user name on the "View History" page, that it is tagged as "Special contributions" (what does this mean?) and not as "user".

The entry made is (I just found out in the last few days, after chatting with some members of the Roa family) highly contentious because s/he has entered on the page that Eleno Roa, Soledad Duterte's father, "adopted the surname Roa" (ie he did not really belong to the Roa family).

Hope you can assist. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tcw8605 (talk • contribs)

Click on the red link to the (so far) non-existent talk page. There, post your question. Give your question a title, and also sign and date it at the end (by hitting "~" four times in a row). You will thereby create the talk page, with your question on it. -- Hoary (talk) 02:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Tcw8605: It sounds like an unregistered user identified by their IP address at the time of the edit. They may have another IP address now and not see messages to the old IP talk page. Links like Special:Contributions/Tcw8605 show all edits by a user. For an IP address it may look like Special:Contributions/49.145.227.37 or Special:Contributions/2602:306:B826:71E0:F504:B622:5D15:973F. If you refer to [4] then it was three years ago and the user is unlikely to see a message now. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Article reference

Sometimes when i cite articles, the article publisher does not have a first or last name but instead there is more then one publisher or that it was listed for example: 88th Air Base Wing Public Affairs. I even see no names on the articles i cite. How do i resolve such an issue?

I sense that you are confusing "publisher" with either "editor" or "author". The publisher is the company that publishes. The author is the person (the authors are the people) who wrote the article. The editor is the person (the editors are the people) who oversaw the content of the entire book before submitting the completed project to the publisher. As an example, Imani Perry is the author or coauthor of one or more texts (without seeing the book, I don't know) within the book Dawoud Bey: Two American Projects; its editors are Corey Keller and Elisabeth Sherman; its publisher is Yale University Press. (For magazines or journals, it's the same; but we normally don't name the editor(s), even if the publication itself does so.) -- Hoary (talk) 02:42, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Links in new tab by default

hi. how can i open links not in the same pages but in another tab or window by default? THANKS --JKim (talk) 00:51, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@JKim: Go to preferences at the top of any page, then 'gadgets' scroll down under 'browsing' and there's a check-box which will enable opening of external links in a new window. Eagleash (talk) 04:09, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

USDC

Hello-

my recent edit was undone on the USDC subject. I had gotten an message from Alex undoing my contribution base on his opinion or belief that my intention was to promote the company that created such technology. I would have to disagree with what happened. My reason being is that I listed the attorney that help create the technology, but added information about the APY of the USDC. However, if I left the APY out of the article and just talked about the team that created it or the technology it self would that be fine? My intension was never to promote the company what so ever. I simply saw an opportunity that no one had done the research and would like to make my contribution that way. I saw in other crypto-currency like bitcoin had coinable on there page many times. I don't fully understand how my words were thought to be promoting the company when it was just facts without my opinions. please help. thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrguillen3 (talk • contribs) 20 April 2020 02:12 (UTC)

@Mrguillen3:Welcome to Wikipedia. You made several mistakes because there are some things you do not know about Wikipedia. Tha't OK, most newcomers make mistakes, and we simply revert the changes and then try to educate the new editor. Please take this as helpful advice and not as criticism.

• • We call an article that simply points to a list of other articles of the same name a "disambiguation page". USDC is such a page. Content about an entity named "USDC" would belong in a new article, not on the disambiguation page.
  • When someone reverts one of your edits, this is an invitation to discuss the edit with that person. Go to the person's talk page to do that. It's often better to discuss this on an article's talk page, but that's not useful in this particular situation.
  • Writing an article about a new subject is hard. Please take a look at WP:YFA.

Don't give up! -Arch dude (talk) 04:27, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Publishing new page of a celebrity.

So I put up a draft for "Asim Riaz" of India and I wanted to know if I did it right incase I wait for it to be published but the content itself is restricting it from being published.?!

I can't answer your question, but don't forget to strike the tilde (~) key four times in order to sign your name to your questions (or your answers). Thanks. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 05:23, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps you're asking about Draft:Asim Riaz; perhaps you're asking about Draft:Asim riaz. If the former, "Submission rejected on 28 January 2020 by Praxidicae / This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia." It seems that Praxidicae thinks that you have to wait till Riaz becomes quite a bit more noteworthy (and demonstrably so, via reliable publications). -- Hoary (talk) 06:39, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

This has been discussed at great length and is protected from creation. Riaz is not notable at this time and continuing to create and submit drafts is becoming disruptive. Praxidicae (talk) 12:25, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Adminship

I want to become admin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mili977 (talk • contribs) 10:25, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Mili977, Becoming an administrator is not something one does overnight. It takes months or years of editing that shows you understand the policies of Wikipedia very well. If you ever wish to become one, you must win election by running at WP:RFA, a grueling process. For now, focus on contributing, and if the time is right, someday someone will approach you and offer to nominate you for adminship. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 11:07, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Request for guest post

Hey there, I have few articles to publish on your website . My articles are unique and fully self-customized. Are you interested to have my articles and publish on your website as a guest post? Please let me know if you are interested

Regards,— Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.101.43 (talk • contribs) 20 April 2020 11:34 (UTC)

Hello, Wikipedia welcomes articles from any editor with the proviso that the subjects pass the notability guidelines. There is no 'guest post' as such, any person can create a draft article even without an account. However, I would recommend that you create an account (and use it consistently when editing) this has a number of advantages when it comes to editing and as it does not reveal your IP address can be regarded as marginally more private. Before creating draft articles it would be best to edit some existing pages to gain a feel for Wikipedia's policies and conventions. Creating your first article is a major step and can be a difficult process. However, there is nothing to stop you from creating a draft via WP:WIZ or WP:AfC and a handy guide to doing so can be found at WP:YFA. THank you for wanting to contibute. Eagleash (talk) 11:59, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Please be aware that our website is an encyclopedia. Each article is "encyclopedic": it is an objective factual description of a notable subject that cites reliable sources. See WP:NOT for details. Once an article is contributed, it is not "owned" by the contributor, but is subject to editing by anyone. If you wish to contribute such an article, then welcome! -Arch dude (talk) 16:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Oppose myself?

Can I react with Oppose on my own move request? This is for Talk:Congratulations (PewDiePie, Roomie and Boyinaband song)#Requested move 18 April 2020. —  Melofors  TC  16:52, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

I've never heard it called "react" before, but from reading the request, it sounds like it's been discovered that an even better potential name has been found and so you no longer support the request that you made. You don't need to oppose it, you can just simply withdraw it. Useight (talk) 17:48, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Oh, makes sense. Thanks. —  Melofors  TC  03:41, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Error on "List of Urban Areas of the United States"

The table providing population density has an error, which is obvious.

The Density Columns using "Population per Square Mile" and "Population per Kilometer" are calculated incorrect. Seems the Square Mile and the Square Kilometer numbers were swapped out. I noticed it only because a square mile is larger than a square kilometer, yet the above mentioned Density indicated there are more people per square mile than a square kilometer.

I hope this helps correct the error. The information provided is very important, and I appreciate the effort made creating the page.

Respectfully yours,

D.W. Kent — Preceding unsigned comment added by DW Kent01 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

At the same density, you have more people in a square mile than in a square kilometer. What's the Problem? In what article? -Arch dude (talk) 18:00, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, DW Kent01. The place to raise issues is the article's talk page, in this case Talk:List of Urban Areas of the United States. But, like Arch dude, I can't see the problem: as you say a square mile is large than a square kilometer, so at a given density there will be more people in the larger area. --ColinFine (talk) 18:34, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

citation

I am referencing a book with three editors, and no matter how I attempt to write "editor1" or "coeditor2" or anything else, it continues to tell me there are two many names in big red letters! How do I properly cite all three editors of this blinking book?! Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:19, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Jenhawk777 Which template are you using? Can you put your attempt here on the help desk so we can see what's going on? Alternately, you can look at the documentation for the citation template to figure it out. If you're using Cite book you may want to look here. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 18:25, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

All blessings upon your head! I have the cheat sheet, checked the Manual of style, and can't find a specific mention of multiple editors. I may be blind--or perhaps just stupid, but I am frustrated enough with looking I don't care!  :-). Here is the offending reference: <ref name="Gervers">{{cite book|title=Tolerance and Intolerance: Social Conflict in the Age of the Crusades|coeditor1=Peter Gervers,|coeditor2=Michael Gervers|coeditor3=James M. Powell|publisher=Syracuse University Press|year=2001|ISBN=9780815628699}} My first effort involved editor1last, and so on, then just editor1, and then some screaming. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:31, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I checked your reference on books--where did you find that by the way--and it looks like the problem is I left out the dashes in my first effort and things went to Hell in a handbasket thereafter. It's editor-last1, etc right? Jeez. I am an idiot... :-). Thank you! Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:38, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm glad you were able to figure it out! As for where I found that, all templates should have documentation like that, you just have to know the name of the template and then type Template:Cite book (or whatever template you want to look up) in the search bar. Also, Wikipedia:Citation templates has a list of (most of the) citation templates in use on the site with links to their documentation. There's a similar page for warning templates and cleanup templates. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 18:46, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

So. Bad news. I used the editor-last1, editor-first1, then 2 and 3--and it came up in big red letters that there were too many names!!! AARRGGHH! What am I doing wrong?! Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:05, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

I figured it out!!!!! Yay! Whoohoo!!! Thank you!! Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:09, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

How can I get my account confirmed?

It says I need to make 10 edits, so what kind of edits is counted?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzjhaa (talk • contribs)

Zzjhaa All of them. You currently have 3, 2 of them to this help desk, and one of them to Requests for Permissions. That said, I would highly recommend you start out by doing some Basic copyediting to get a feel for how things work around here. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 18:28, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

inaccurate covid 19 cases reported for our county

Hello - I'm contacting for help. If you google La Crosse County Covid-19, the google preview pulled from Wikipedia shows that we have 212 cases, which is not accurate. I work for the public health department and we are getting complaints about this (we only have 26 cases as of today). Can someone assist with making this change? I have never used Wikipedia before and wasn't even sure which page on Wikipedia is pulling up on the Google preview.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.185.130.79 (talk • contribs)

It looks like Google thinks it's pulling from 2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Wisconsin#Statistics_by_county, however, it seems to be confused about the columns. That article indicates La Crosse County has 25 cases, which is 21.2 cases per 100,000 people in the county. Google for some reason is dropping the decimal in the number of cases per 100,000 population, and taking that number as being the total number of cases. They are doing that for every county in Wisconsin, as you can see by comparing their chart here with the chart on that Wikipedia page. Unfortunately, we have no control over how Google misrepresents our data. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 18:39, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for flagging this, and I'm sorry for the confusion/complaints! As noted above, I believe this is an issue with how Google is scraping the data from Wikipedia. I've let the Google team that works on the statistics card know about this and will update this thread as soon as I hear back. MPinchuk (WMF) (talk) 20:30, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Archiving a web page

Hi, I just noticed that this website is going offline on April 30, 2020. I would like to use it as a source for an article I am writing now. However, when I try to archive it on the Wayback Machine I get a message that says the page is already on the web. Do I have to wait until the page goes dead to archive it? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:46, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Yoninah, I'm not sure what happened for you, but I've archived the page now for you.

At https://archive.org/web/ there is a Save Page Now button, which is how you save a page to the archive - I think that if you try to search for a page that still exists, and it hasn't been archived, it just sends you to the live page, as it assumes you are looking for something, not saving something. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 20:13, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Alex Noble: Thank you. What is the code for the archived page please? Yoninah (talk) 21:42, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Orphan article

Greetings! Please I need clarification on what an orphan article is? I removed the orphan tag placed on Victor Mbarika because it is linked to ICT University's Wikipedia page but a user "GSS" reversed it. I had earlier checked the rules guiding the use of that tag and discovered its appropriate to remove the tag from the article. Please clarify this. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Opeinoluwa101 (talk • contribs) 2020-04-20T22:00:45 (UTC)

Correct. The definition is at WP:Orphan. I have removed the tag. It would obviously be better if more than one article were to be linked to the article in question. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:32, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Can you help me find the tool that showed articles needing pictures?

I'm trying to think of things to suggest people do while social distancing. I often take photos of things that are nearby, but the Special:Nearby feature stops a certain number of articles and it can't filter to only show articles needing photos.

I seem to remember seeing something on wmflabs.org that did exactly this, but I can't find it now. It basically produced a list of articles needing photos within a radius of lat/long coordinates. But I can't find it now. Can someone help? - Scarpy (talk) 21:51, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Scarpy:..Wikipedia:Requested pictures.....Category:Wikipedia requested images....Pages needing images sorted by most pageviews. See also Commons:Picture requests.--Moxy 🍁 22:09, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Moxy: where can I filter by latitude and longitude? - Scarpy (talk) 01:33, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Not sure you can but Category:Wikipedia requested images is broken down into subcategories some by State some by City some by region etc.. if that helps.--Moxy 🍁 01:38, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

is it possible to get the code/query Special:Nearby uses and modify the filter? - Scarpy (talk) 05:24, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Help: error references

Kosmos 214 ([[User CRS-20 talk:CRS-20|talk]]) 23:48, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@CRS-20:  Fixed! It appears the reference errors were in the first instance of your article. I suggest you create future articles as drafts and them publish them as articles when they are complete. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: I can do with "edit source", but I can not do with "edit". And a very big thank you for your help. Cordially. CRS-20 (talk) 04:46, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

April 21

Grand Aire Express

Hello,

I wrote and article regarding safety and FAA oversight of [Grand Aire Express] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Aire_Express . The entire article was removed as "not constructive". I did also update the fleet page and those edits were not the best quality. However, the safety and FAA oversight section was well sourced and relevant. The relevancy goes to the fact that an airline such as this can continue to operate with the blessing of the FAA. I would like some other editors to comment and reconsider the deletion.

The article Grand_Aire_Express still exists! --Orange Mike | Talk 01:04, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

@JimBob2u: (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) The Grand Aire Express article was not removed - only your edits to the article. I recommend that you follow the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. You boldly made some edits that you thought improved the article, and JackintheBox reverted your edits. The next step is for you to create a new section on Talk:Grand Aire Express to discuss the merits of your additions. Also, I suggest starting slowly - try making one recommendation and see how that goes before making another. Good luck, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:54, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Untitled

wha and when wikipedia started — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.186.83.158 (talk) 18:29, April 20, 2020 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to wikipedia. The answer to your question is located here. Also, remember to sign your comments with ~~~~. {{replyto}} Can I Log In's (talk) page 01:34, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

January 15, 2001. – Teratix ₵ 02:24, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Eurasianet

Hello all. I have been working on the content on the 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Tajikistan page since before the page was separated off and made into a separate page. Can Eurasianet articles be used on that page? Is that source considered reliable? How can I determine reliability for a source like that? Tajikistan is a neglected topic on Wikipedia- for example, just a few months ago, I had to upload the new map from the CIA Factbook in the wake of the China-Tajikistan border adjustment from 2011. Thanks for any help. Geographyinitiative (talk) 02:31, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Is there a 'Wikipedia command center' where I can ask people about how to do coverage of coronavirus? Geographyinitiative (talk) 02:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

@Geographyinitiative:...Pls join us at Wikipedia:WikiProject COVID-19 .... discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject COVID-19.--Moxy 🍁 03:00, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Mistiaas (talk) 04:33, 21 April 2020 (UTC)Taking down unfinished page

Hi,

I was trying to learn how to create a Wikipedia page, after doing my required ten edits on other pages, and I accidently published the title only of the page I will be creating, David Smeltz. I am afraid this is going to impede me from completing the page since it's now been "published". Please help! Thanks!

Misti Aas

Mistiaas It has already been put up for deletion. You are better off using the WP:Article Wizard to create a draft version of the article anyway, and get it approved through the draft review process. As an aside, who exactly are you writing an article about? Have you made sure that he is notable first? CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 04:39, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Leeds Pals

Towards the end of this page, can you please on the link "Olive Middleton" do a specific link to the section on her (Olive) on this page Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge - the section is "Grandparents of Michael Middleton". I try to do this once a month and ALWAYS stuff it up. Please don't get angry. Thanks 175.33.49.35 (talk) 05:39, 21 April 2020 (UTC)