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:{{ping|Hachengsa}} Sure, the paragraph is below:<br>大古剌等处土酋泼的那浪所遣使臣选马撒等言其邻境有七曰大古剌小古剌底马撒茶山底板孟伦八家塔皆在西南极边自昔不通中国今天朝遣官宣布恩命人民皆愿内属乞设官统理仍招谕旁近未附之从之以大古剌底马撒二处地广各置宣慰使司小古剌茶山底板孟伦八家塔各置长官司以泼的那浪为大古剌宣慰使腊罔帕为底马撒宣慰使拜张早张看伽立昧刀罕替刀轻罕为小古剌等长官使长官俱给诰即敕符金字红牌遣给事中周让等赍 敕往赐之仍各赐钞币有差<br>You can find ''[[Ming Shilu]]'' in the [[Chinese Text Project]]. And the quote was from the project website page [https://ctext.org/wiki.pl?if=gb&chapter=571566&remap=gb#p29 here]. "Institute of History and Philology, Academia Sinica" of Taiwan has republished ''Ming Shilu'' some years ago and I have the digital book ([https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JbwuwOlVP0DB_xnM5mwfqdasjVvMpio2/view?usp=sharing here]). The information is on the page 0817-0818. There are three times of records about Dimasa in the ''Ming Shilu'', I stated them in the article [[:zh:底马撒王国|Dimasa Kingdom]] in Chinese Wikipedia.--[[User:瑞丽江的河水|<span style="border-radius:999px;background:#39b;padding:0 10px;color:#fff">Xiliuheshui</span>]] · [[User talk:瑞丽江的河水|<small style="color:red">chat</small>]] 21:19, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
:{{ping|Hachengsa}} Sure, the paragraph is below:<br>大古剌等处土酋泼的那浪所遣使臣选马撒等言其邻境有七曰大古剌小古剌底马撒茶山底板孟伦八家塔皆在西南极边自昔不通中国今天朝遣官宣布恩命人民皆愿内属乞设官统理仍招谕旁近未附之从之以大古剌底马撒二处地广各置宣慰使司小古剌茶山底板孟伦八家塔各置长官司以泼的那浪为大古剌宣慰使腊罔帕为底马撒宣慰使拜张早张看伽立昧刀罕替刀轻罕为小古剌等长官使长官俱给诰即敕符金字红牌遣给事中周让等赍 敕往赐之仍各赐钞币有差<br>You can find ''[[Ming Shilu]]'' in the [[Chinese Text Project]]. And the quote was from the project website page [https://ctext.org/wiki.pl?if=gb&chapter=571566&remap=gb#p29 here]. "Institute of History and Philology, Academia Sinica" of Taiwan has republished ''Ming Shilu'' some years ago and I have the digital book ([https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JbwuwOlVP0DB_xnM5mwfqdasjVvMpio2/view?usp=sharing here]). The information is on the page 0817-0818. There are three times of records about Dimasa in the ''Ming Shilu'', I stated them in the article [[:zh:底马撒王国|Dimasa Kingdom]] in Chinese Wikipedia.--[[User:瑞丽江的河水|<span style="border-radius:999px;background:#39b;padding:0 10px;color:#fff">Xiliuheshui</span>]] · [[User talk:瑞丽江的河水|<small style="color:red">chat</small>]] 21:19, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
::Say one more thing, former Chinese study believe that ''Dimasa Xuanwei Si'' was in the [[Lower Burma]]. But in the early 20 century, the seal of ''Dimasa Xuanwei Si'' was found in Assam. Burmese scholar [[Chen Yi-sein]] did a little study about Dimasa in the thesis ''Study of 'Great Gula', 'Little Gula' and 'Dimasa''' (in Chinese language). I upload the thesis file to my google drive ([https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pMLb7qi3E6PTyXiWXNjaxuGw8qHGvW8k/view?usp=sharing here]), you can try to read with a translator. If you have any problem on Chinese literature I can help you.--[[User:瑞丽江的河水|<span style="border-radius:999px;background:#39b;padding:0 10px;color:#fff">Xiliuheshui</span>]] · [[User talk:瑞丽江的河水|<small style="color:red">chat</small>]] 21:42, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
::Say one more thing, former Chinese study believe that ''Dimasa Xuanwei Si'' was in the [[Lower Burma]]. But in the early 20 century, the seal of ''Dimasa Xuanwei Si'' was found in Assam. Burmese scholar [[Chen Yi-sein]] did a little study about Dimasa in the thesis ''Study of 'Great Gula', 'Little Gula' and 'Dimasa''' (in Chinese language). I upload the thesis file to my google drive ([https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pMLb7qi3E6PTyXiWXNjaxuGw8qHGvW8k/view?usp=sharing here]), you can try to read with a translator. If you have any problem on Chinese literature I can help you.--[[User:瑞丽江的河水|<span style="border-radius:999px;background:#39b;padding:0 10px;color:#fff">Xiliuheshui</span>]] · [[User talk:瑞丽江的河水|<small style="color:red">chat</small>]] 21:42, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Thank you so much. In Assam, There are some monoliths which look like Tian monolith https://books.google.co.in/books/about/Megalithic_Splendours_of_the_Dhansiri_Va.html?id=VQNQDQAAQBAJ . Can you help me to confirm if they are Tian monolith or not ? Ming Shilu mention total eight polity (Di-wu-la was seperated from Da gu-la) : Da Gu-la , Di-wu-la , Di-ma-sa , Xiao Gu-la , Cha-shan , Di-ban , Meng-lun , Ba-jia-ta. I've a confusion if all these are chinese word or name of kingdoms with chinese pronunciation. There is Dimasa community and Dimapur city, So, we can confirm that Di-ma-sa is connected to [[Dimasa people]] or [[Dimapur]] city. I've added some identification.
:Da gu-la's Pacification superintendent = Po-di-na-lang = Some king with Narayana title of Da gu-la.
:Di-wu-la's Chief = Duo-li-shi-ma-zhi = Some king Manikya title of [[Twipra Kingdom|Ti-pu-ra]].
:Di-ma-sa's Pacification superintendent = La-wang-pa = Some king with Pa/Fa title of [[Dimasa kingdom]].
: Meng-lun's Chief = Dao han-ti ~~ Tyao Khamti of Tai-[[Ahom kingdom]]. Tai-[[Ahom people]] came from place called Mong-Mao-Lung
: Ba-jia-ta's Chief = Dao Qing-han . Tao or Dao title was used in Tai kingdoms.
: Xiao Gu-la's Chief = Bai-zhang and and Cha-shan's Chief = Zao-Zhang both of them have same surname. They might be ruled by same tribe.
:: To understand relation between Da gu-la and Di-wu-la. This old journal may be useful. https://books.google.co.in/books?id=0TQzAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA829 .
:I'll contact you if i will need help. Thank you sir. 08:08, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

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reversion for Momien

Hi, I've reverted this to a redirect as evidence has not been provided or found for the change. If you have a reliable source would you please revert to DAB (actually it should be a WP:SIA instead) and cite it - preferably at the target but otherwise on the page. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 01:32, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hydronium Hydroxide: Done, how do you think the citation or should I offer more materials.--Xiliuheshui · chat 01:48, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, the quote was helpful - change accepted. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 01:56, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Hydronium Hydroxide: Cheers. I changed that when I reading the Template:Shan states, lots of mistakes lol. I found that it is a big difference between Chinese and English Wikipedia that SIA and DAB are almost the same in Chinese Wikipedia. Thanks for teach me the difference.--Xiliuheshui · chat 02:05, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Sir, May i get complete quote of your addition in Dimasa Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dimasa_Kingdom&diff=963974671&oldid=963974488 . Thank you Hachengsa (talk) 20:32, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hachengsa: Sure, the paragraph is below:
大古剌等处土酋泼的那浪所遣使臣选马撒等言其邻境有七曰大古剌小古剌底马撒茶山底板孟伦八家塔皆在西南极边自昔不通中国今天朝遣官宣布恩命人民皆愿内属乞设官统理仍招谕旁近未附之从之以大古剌底马撒二处地广各置宣慰使司小古剌茶山底板孟伦八家塔各置长官司以泼的那浪为大古剌宣慰使腊罔帕为底马撒宣慰使拜张早张看伽立昧刀罕替刀轻罕为小古剌等长官使长官俱给诰即敕符金字红牌遣给事中周让等赍 敕往赐之仍各赐钞币有差
You can find Ming Shilu in the Chinese Text Project. And the quote was from the project website page here. "Institute of History and Philology, Academia Sinica" of Taiwan has republished Ming Shilu some years ago and I have the digital book (here). The information is on the page 0817-0818. There are three times of records about Dimasa in the Ming Shilu, I stated them in the article Dimasa Kingdom in Chinese Wikipedia.--Xiliuheshui · chat 21:19, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Say one more thing, former Chinese study believe that Dimasa Xuanwei Si was in the Lower Burma. But in the early 20 century, the seal of Dimasa Xuanwei Si was found in Assam. Burmese scholar Chen Yi-sein did a little study about Dimasa in the thesis Study of 'Great Gula', 'Little Gula' and 'Dimasa' (in Chinese language). I upload the thesis file to my google drive (here), you can try to read with a translator. If you have any problem on Chinese literature I can help you.--Xiliuheshui · chat 21:42, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much. In Assam, There are some monoliths which look like Tian monolith https://books.google.co.in/books/about/Megalithic_Splendours_of_the_Dhansiri_Va.html?id=VQNQDQAAQBAJ . Can you help me to confirm if they are Tian monolith or not ? Ming Shilu mention total eight polity (Di-wu-la was seperated from Da gu-la) : Da Gu-la , Di-wu-la , Di-ma-sa , Xiao Gu-la , Cha-shan , Di-ban , Meng-lun , Ba-jia-ta. I've a confusion if all these are chinese word or name of kingdoms with chinese pronunciation. There is Dimasa community and Dimapur city, So, we can confirm that Di-ma-sa is connected to Dimasa people or Dimapur city. I've added some identification.

Da gu-la's Pacification superintendent = Po-di-na-lang = Some king with Narayana title of Da gu-la.
Di-wu-la's Chief = Duo-li-shi-ma-zhi = Some king Manikya title of Ti-pu-ra.
Di-ma-sa's Pacification superintendent = La-wang-pa = Some king with Pa/Fa title of Dimasa kingdom.
Meng-lun's Chief = Dao han-ti ~~ Tyao Khamti of Tai-Ahom kingdom. Tai-Ahom people came from place called Mong-Mao-Lung
Ba-jia-ta's Chief = Dao Qing-han . Tao or Dao title was used in Tai kingdoms.
Xiao Gu-la's Chief = Bai-zhang and and Cha-shan's Chief = Zao-Zhang both of them have same surname. They might be ruled by same tribe.
To understand relation between Da gu-la and Di-wu-la. This old journal may be useful. https://books.google.co.in/books?id=0TQzAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA829 .
I'll contact you if i will need help. Thank you sir. 08:08, 3 August 2020 (UTC)