User talk:2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63
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Again, welcome! ―sportzpikachu my talkcontribs 04:13, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Again, welcome! RandomAct(talk to me) 17:48, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank God we kept this
This is what was so important that it couldn't be removed, and couldn't be templated:
Business
The main sources of employment in the area are tourism & hospitality, construction and agriculture.
The town has thirteen pubs and five hairdresser/barber's shop. Other businesses are, amongst others, five supermarkets, a hostel, a hardware shop, a bank, a post office, a bridal shop, a bookmaker's office, two pizzerias/take-aways, a clothes shop, a surf shop, a salon, and two barber shops. There are two pharmacies and several restaurants in the town.
There are two large hotels in the vicinity, the Armada Hotel and The Bellbridge House Hotel. There are numerous B&Bs in Milltown Malbay and its surrounding area.
Requesting more eyes at COI
An expansive network of articles tended by a few WP:SPAs. [1] 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:43, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- plugs new B0b board. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 19:44, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Block evasion
Drmies, I'm trying to get a block on another sock of Duane E. Tressler (talk · contribs). Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:41, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Per the IP talk page [2], is it possible to contact the library? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:42, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Materialscientist just placed the block. I'm chatting online with a librarian. Drmies (talk) 21:25, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Do you keep a list of IPs? Drmies (talk) 21:26, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- First, my thanks to you and Materialscientist. I don't but I can go back through edit histories and find some. I believe other IPs came from Baltimore libraries as well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Here's one, 169.156.21.123 (talk · contribs). 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:30, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- And another 169.156.21.120 (talk · contribs). These are the most recent. There are dozens going back years, as I recall. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- OK, there isn't really anything that they can do, I suppose; I mean they can claim that patron is abusing the system or whatever. I suggested that they let their IT department and others know, so that other patrons can be informed if they're unable to edit, and so that their system administrators don't think there's something wrong on their end.
I don't think Duane has any actual accounts, at least not that I saw; we don't have an SPI, do we, where we could keep a file of IPs? Drmies (talk) 21:38, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- OK, there isn't really anything that they can do, I suppose; I mean they can claim that patron is abusing the system or whatever. I suggested that they let their IT department and others know, so that other patrons can be informed if they're unable to edit, and so that their system administrators don't think there's something wrong on their end.
- 169.156.21.97 (talk · contribs). 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:39, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think an SPI was ever opened. Thanks for calling them--I was tempted t leave a note right on the IP talk page, but your call was a better pathway. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:41, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- 169.156.21.99 (talk · contribs) 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:44, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- 169.156.21.86 (talk · contribs). 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:45, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- 169.156.21.80 (talk · contribs). A mother lode is the edit history for Timeline of Baltimore. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:46, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- I just placed a block on 169.156.0.0/19 . I looked at over a thousand edits; they're all his. Drmies (talk) 21:48, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- If you don't have a problem with it, I'll go through some of [3] this and revert. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:49, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Go for it. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 21:51, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Cheezus. To carry on years after a block, having learned nothing from the block, other than to become more intransigent. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:03, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Go for it. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 21:51, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- If you don't have a problem with it, I'll go through some of [3] this and revert. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:49, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- I just placed a block on 169.156.0.0/19 . I looked at over a thousand edits; they're all his. Drmies (talk) 21:48, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
Thanks for your vigilance in dealing with that IP vandal and removing their trash from my talk page! Aoi (青い) (talk) 05:44, 12 January 2020 (UTC) |
- Likewise, Aoi. Much appreciated, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:45, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Oh CD63.....
Sometimes I wish you would get an account so you could have the tools to do things easier but at the same time I respect that you choose not to. Best always S0091 (talk) 21:54, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Social justice
My apologies for reverting you on Social justice, looks like I was looking at the wrong revision. -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:17, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Quite alright. Thank you for the note, and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:18, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
Ugh. Anyone want to take a crack at that? Melcous or Drmies? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:59, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
Another bio being turned into a sprawling and unsourced press release, a personal scrapbook. I've started a thread at BLP noticeboard. More eyes appreciated. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:43, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
Association you might want to join?
I'm assuming you don't want to create an account since you're still editing with an IP (correct me if I'm wrong), so I thought you might like to join m:Association_of_Good_Faith_Wikipedians_Who_Remain_Unregistered_on_Principle. Have a good day and keep up the good work! Clovermoss (talk) 23:15, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- That's funny, Clovermoss. I've told my story multiple times in the past: Have a registered account, contributed greatly in my area of knowledge. Began editing anonymously for an extra degree of separation from my Wiki biography, so as not to be identified. Several admins know who I am. Decided I like being an IP; it bothers vandals and registered accounts who think a name confers legitimacy. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:26, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Well, thank you for all your contributions! I wish I could use the thank button for IPs, but unfortunately that feature no longer works. I think it's the edits that matter (not whether or not they come from a registered or unregistered account). I hope to see you around in the future since you do such good work. :) Clovermoss (talk) 23:32, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. Glad you're here, too. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:15, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- Well, thank you for all your contributions! I wish I could use the thank button for IPs, but unfortunately that feature no longer works. I think it's the edits that matter (not whether or not they come from a registered or unregistered account). I hope to see you around in the future since you do such good work. :) Clovermoss (talk) 23:32, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
23.115.66.27
Hi 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63,
Thank you very much for the report. This is an interesting case; please let me know on my talk page if the behavior continues after the week.
Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:18, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, ToBeFree. There are so many different accounts that do that, in that genre, that I sometimes wonder if it's just three people using an infinite number of accounts. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:22, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- In this very specific case, it does seem to be one single person doing this since 2018, which would make me consider a month(s)-long block if the week doesn't suffice. But yes, it's a common issue, and it's often hard to deal with, both from editorial and technical standpoints. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:28, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
FYI my response here. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:14, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Oshwah. Much appreciated. As I noted before, they game the system by laying low for a week or so following a report, then return for the same thing. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:43, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah they really do. It's crappy, because I obviously want to treat them just like any other user - and by principle, we should absolutely be doing so. Unfortunately, because of the fact that it's a "sensitive IP range" (or one that we should reasonably consider as such), I am forced to keep that in mind when making an administrative decision. I just dislike knowing the fact that they may be using that fact to their advantage intentionally, and any potential hesitation on my part to act in "borderline cases" in terms of staleness and punitive vs preventative may just be letting them get away with exactly what they're doing... :-/ ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:53, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Conflict of interest at William Gazecki
Hi- I just added an entry to the talk page of the William Gazecki article, in an attempt to resolve this apparent Conflict of Interest (which, from reviewing the above, has grown into some sort of strange nightmare of cross-pollinated inter-associations that in fact have NOTHING to do with one another. Any Wiki Editors out there who are interested in this sort of thing, please review. William Gazecki 00:18, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
BLP violation at Kay Coles James
Requested rev/deletion at BLP noticeboard hours ago, and ANI is locked. Oshwah or Drmies, maybe you can help: [4]. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:01, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Another load of puerile BLP violations at Terry Christian, if you're up for locking and rev deleting back a few days, Drmies. And thanks for dealing with this crap. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:22, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- FYI - I do have an outstanding request at RFPP for semi-protection but it's been there for a couple hours or so. S0091 (talk) 01:28, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, S0091. I know that those requests can sit a long time, especially of a Saturday night. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:31, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Clearly folks have their priorities all wrong. Ha! :) S0091 (talk) 01:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Well, yeah. I'm old enough that I don't have to apologize for not going out at night. And my partner would be quite displeased if I did so without her. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:35, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- It's protected now. S0091 (talk) 01:48, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Well, yeah. I'm old enough that I don't have to apologize for not going out at night. And my partner would be quite displeased if I did so without her. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:35, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Clearly folks have their priorities all wrong. Ha! :) S0091 (talk) 01:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, S0091. I know that those requests can sit a long time, especially of a Saturday night. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:31, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- FYI - I do have an outstanding request at RFPP for semi-protection but it's been there for a couple hours or so. S0091 (talk) 01:28, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hey, sorry for the late response, Bob! I'm glad that this issue was handled quickly. Since you're an IP user, you obviously won't have access to the "email this user" function on Wikipedia. For future requests like these that should be given to admins privately, here is my email address: OshwahWikigmail.com - instead of having to post them onto Wikipedia publicly and risk the Streisand effect, please email them to me instead (if possible). I know that you have personal reasons as to why you do not use an account to edit Wikipedia, and you may also have personal reasons as to why you would refuse to use email to communicate matters like these to myself or another admin. If you do have reasons, please respond (ping me) and let me know about it so that I understand. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:00, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Oshwah. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:18, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- Always happy to help. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:28, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Oshwah. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:18, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Would appreciate more eyes on this, and the promotional accounts that just sprang up in unison. Looks like it ought to be merged. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, I am a member of this organization and I am responsible for keeping this website up to date. I am not sure what guidelines I have violated. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rudahr0519 (talk • contribs) 03:39, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Then you haven't read the WP:COI message I sent both accounts you're using for promotional purposes. If this continues I'll ask all accounts be blocked. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:41, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
JJMC89, you may be good at this sort of thing. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:52, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- It looks like Ad Orientem has sorted out the promo accounts. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:49, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Yes. It looked like a good candidate for a redirect to the college of engineering. But after all that, I won't quibble with deletion. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
More eyes on this, please, given the recent handprints of two WP:COI accounts. If it continues I'll take it to BLP or page protection boards. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:13, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
copyvio-revdel template
Hi b0b2! I saw you've reverted Richinstead a few times for (among many other issues) copyright violations. Just in case you weren't aware of it, there's a useful template to use in those cases, {{copyvio-revdel}}. You put in the first and last revision IDs where the copyvio occurred and the URL where the text was copied from, and the page will get flagged for an admin to delete the offending revisions. creffpublic a creffett franchise (talk to the boss) 20:05, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Creffett. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- Lord knows I tried, Creffett, but couldn't produce a working template at Somatic experiencing. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- Fair enough, there's a script that can generate it for you, but I forgot that you can't install scripts as an anonymous editor. I'll generate the template for the page you linked, and feel free to ping me/leave a note on my talk page in the future if you need a hand making a copyvio revdel request. creffett (talk) 22:57, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Creffett. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:13, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- Fair enough, there's a script that can generate it for you, but I forgot that you can't install scripts as an anonymous editor. I'll generate the template for the page you linked, and feel free to ping me/leave a note on my talk page in the future if you need a hand making a copyvio revdel request. creffett (talk) 22:57, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- Lord knows I tried, Creffett, but couldn't produce a working template at Somatic experiencing. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Lots of rev/deletion warranted for content copied from the university's press releases. And lots more cleanup needed. John from Idegon, some of this might be in your wheelhouse.
Duke University
Hi!
With the increased emphasis on college affordability, I think being named as the school with the best financial aid merits a place in the first few paragraphs of the Duke University article. Respectfully curious as to why you disagree. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.217.221 (talk) 00:35, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- Firstly, it's from 2015, so it's no longer terribly relevant. Secondly, similar content was already moved to the admissions section by another editor. Thirdly, it looks like you're edit warring for promotional purposes, possibly in coordination with several other accounts. So, fourthly, it behooves you--and the other accounts--to divulge your conflict of interest. Also, you may not use multiple accounts to evade sanctions for disruptive editing, nor to give the appearance of building a consensus. I've begun a discussion at WP:ANI. Please feel free to continue there, rather than here, so that other editors and administrators can engage. Thank you, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:43, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
I have never used an account other than this one so I don't know where you're getting that from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.217.221 (talk) 02:52, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
I've never been sanctioned and I'm not pretending to build consensus or do anything of the sort. I edit from wherever I happen to be located at the time. I'm pretty sure that isn't prohibited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.74.237.226 (talk) 07:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- There are a number of problems here, not the least of which is that 137.132.217.221 (talk · contribs) wrote above that they've never used another account. Is 119.74.237.226 (talk · contribs) the same person? I suggest that the discussion be limited to the article talk page and the ANI report. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:23, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Robert Lawson
You twice removed comment from the list of Works on the Robert Lawson (Author) page. They were place there to explain why two items on the list were not valid Robert Lawson Works. I could have just removed the two works, but because they were sited many years ago in a reference and repeated in many places and over many years they are what you your in you ignorance of the topic would call a "Valid Reference". I am just trying to correct a record that has been wrong for many years. If you had read what I put in place maybe you would have understood what it was that I was saying. Because these items have long been accepted as Robert Lawson Works I thought just removing them would do little good. They would sooner or later be replaced by someone who saw them listed in one of the many faulty references both in print and on the internet. One book mentioned could easily be determined to not be illustrated by Robert Lawson by simply looking at the book. The front of the books dust jacket plainly states it is illustrated by someone else. With the other book mentioned it is a bit harder to prove that it does not exist. I left comment saying that no copyright information was found for the particular edition of the book. I am not sure how to reference such a thing. I could site the Catalog of Copyright entries from the Library of Congress, but how do you reference a entry that is not found? If you have ever tried to look up a copyright entry you would know that the record is a bit of a confused mess. Besides this I have 40 years of book collecting experience and have collected Lawson for most of that time. When you can't find a volume or even mention of a volume besides in a reference book in that time period, I think it is a pretty good indication that the book does not exist. Especially when no valid copyright information can be found for the volume. Just because something has been published in a reference, it does not make it correct. But it seems that you do not believe in correcting "Known" sources from what I have read in several places in your help and instructions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.83.82 (talk) 13:59, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- Please read the guidelines I left at the talk page of your registered account. They help to explain how Wikipedia works. We don't accept WP:OR, nor commentary in article space. We do appreciate corrections. If books are wrongly included in the bibliography section, please do remove them, with an explanation in the edit summary and/or in the article's talk page. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:19, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
I can't run everything over to a noticeboard, though the Duke University related stuff merits more attention than it's gotten thus far. So, JJMC89, Melcous or Drmies, would you have a look at this puffed bio? How much of the selected writing and speeches belongs here? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:28, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- Serial Number 54129, thank you! Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:43, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Temporary new IP
The wifi went out for a few minutes out here in the sticks. So, 2601:188:180:B8E0:9587:6555:466B:361D (talk) 23:21, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
More eyes on this, please. Multiple copyright violations and promotional intent. Rev/delete as necessary. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:9587:6555:466B:361D (talk) 17:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
A cup of coffee for you!
Thanks you for your anti-vandalism edits! Bobherry Talk Edits 15:54, 19 February 2020 (UTC) |
Celebrity bio, with back and forth over how much we need to know about his dating life. I want no part of the scrum, and am happy to ask others to have a look. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:57, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- Would appreciate some input. Three editors have weighed in, with no luck. Ciao for the evening. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:07, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
- I'll be blunt: Drmies, Melcous or JJMC89, this has gone on way too long over poor editing. The BLP noticeboard thread is ridiculous. Help requested. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:01, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you Drmies--your assessment at ANI is correct--and Melcous. What an awful waste of time for numerous editors, all for the insistence to include tabloid crap. Should have been blocked days ago. They know exactly what they're doing; I don't buy that they're new here. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:07, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
A well-deserved tea and thanks
Thank you for countless hours of dealing with what can sometimes be an unbearable mess – the encyclopedia and its maintenance. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you. And per the message left at your page, they don't get it. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- It is tiresome, ToBeFree, as you're well aware. If you want to have a look at the copyvio at that article, feel free. But you may well have had enough of that for tonight. Cheers and thanks again, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:41, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Heh, I'll indeed let someone else have a look at the copyvio problem – I can't access the alleged "reference" from Germany, it seems, and the Internet Archive doesn't help. Feel free to add {{copyvio-revdel}} to the page. Perhaps I'll have a look tomorrow, but I think I'll just skip this specific page/issue. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:44, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Of course. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:45, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Heh, I'll indeed let someone else have a look at the copyvio problem – I can't access the alleged "reference" from Germany, it seems, and the Internet Archive doesn't help. Feel free to add {{copyvio-revdel}} to the page. Perhaps I'll have a look tomorrow, but I think I'll just skip this specific page/issue. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:44, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm – possibly. Or even probably. We'll see. :) (in subjectively 95% of the cases, a final warning doesn't help, but I'll wait to see if they are one of the five percent) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:47, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- It is tiresome, ToBeFree, as you're well aware. If you want to have a look at the copyvio at that article, feel free. But you may well have had enough of that for tonight. Cheers and thanks again, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:41, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Fat Dan Rafael
Please take time to review the sources, all boxers use it. Mostly in a friendly manner, being overweight is not always an insult, apologies if the edits insulted in anyway Vestigative (talk) 04:07, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Cheezus, this is my night. As stated in my edit summary, none of these are WP:RELIABLE sources. And in many of those forum comments it is used as an insult, which runs afoul of WP:BLP guidelines. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:09, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Best unblock request decline I've seen this week
[5]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:49, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- 1. Anything here that isn't and advertisement, and can't be cut?
- and 2. How deep do the copyright violations run?
Thanks to anyone who can help. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 06:17, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- I say cut the lot. Probably further back than I can prove due to dead links. — JJMC89 (T·C) 08:40, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for weeding out the mare's nest of copyright violations, JJMC89. And thank you, Serial Number 54129, for the cutting. Cheers and best wishes, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:33, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Not egregiously promotional, though owned for a long time by a likely WP:COI editor who has contributed greatly to other articles. A lot of unsourced details about programs and student life. How much, if any, ought to be clear cut? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:03, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- I've been nibbling at the edges, mostly removing parenthetical observations, without wading into the meat of the original research. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:56, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- And, was this a copyvio [6]? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:26, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for your edits, when so much of an article is recently written by one person it often needs a review by a third party (or several). I hope it will be possible to improve the article without deleting two thirds of it, as happened with St Stephen's House, Oxford, in that case due to promotional and copyvio content. Based on the conversation at Talk:Corpus Christi College, Oxford in 2018, being a student at a college may not be a true COI and the same argument could be made for alumni. The ownership seems to be a matter of no other editors wishing to make substantial edits rather than the editor preventing other editors getting involved. TSventon (talk) 19:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- That's a good point, TSventon; where there's a lack of contributions from others, one editor's long term involvement is thrown into sharper relief. Not having yet looked at the Corpus Christi discussion, COI may be interpreted broadly enough to include alumni and students, especially if the writing has veered into directory or catalogue-type territory. That doesn't mean there's overt WP:BOOSTERISM, but something a bit off neutral point of view nonetheless. Anyway, I didn't think it was blatant enough to put a COI template on the article. The problem at Wycliffe looks to be an abundance of WP:OR. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- And...the editor has a very constructive history of creating and editing biographies, complete with sourcing. For the Wycliffe Hall article, that has gone by the wayside. He hasn't responded to the COI message I left. Every and any time COI has been raised with my edits, I've responded immediately. Rarely a good sign when the message is ignored. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:26, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- WP:COI doesn't specifically mention students, possibly because employees tend to cause more problems. Hopefully the editor will respond shortly, we shall see. TSventon (talk) 02:27, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- I have reread the template message you posted and I think it could be read as a request to stop editing if the editor has/ believes they have a COI which does not need a response if they don't. I have posted a specific question today and suggested that a discussion on the issues with the article might be useful. TSventon (talk) 13:39, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, TSventon. Often the COI template is received in one of three ways: fight, flight or ignore. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:59, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- I now have an answer to my question on my talk page. Do you want to start a discussion on the talk page about issues with the article or shall I (put it onto my to do list)? TSventon (talk) 15:05, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- I'm happy to initiate discussion there, though it may fall into my 'later' list as well. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:07, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, the article is on my watchlist. I think it needs some general guidance as well as edit summaries. TSventon (talk) 15:14, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- More specifically, I do plan to get to it sooner, rather than later, maybe even by this evening (east coast time). 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:16, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, the article is on my watchlist. I think it needs some general guidance as well as edit summaries. TSventon (talk) 15:14, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- I'm happy to initiate discussion there, though it may fall into my 'later' list as well. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:07, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- I now have an answer to my question on my talk page. Do you want to start a discussion on the talk page about issues with the article or shall I (put it onto my to do list)? TSventon (talk) 15:05, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, TSventon. Often the COI template is received in one of three ways: fight, flight or ignore. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:59, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
rev/delete multiple edits at Michael Eric Dyson, please
If you're around, Drmies. Thanks. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:06, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- I am! We're watching American Idol, and my daughter is giving me an education on Instagram. Turns out a lot of male human beings love making rape jokes. Anyway. Drmies (talk) 02:10, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you Drmies, and how awful. Look me up on Instagram. It's the only place I'm famous. And since it's virtual, it's totally meaningless. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:16, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
IP
- Here's a good thing about editing as an ip, you never need to log in or out, and you'll never forget your password! --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 03:35, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- True enough. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:42, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Editor's Barnstar | |
This is the first time I am giving a barnstar to an anonymous user like you but I salute your contributions to Wikipedia. It is pleasant to acknowledge your efforts and that too on a leap year day February 29th is cherishing. Thank you for your valuable contributions and keep going. Abishe (talk) 15:25, 29 February 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you, Abishe. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:42, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
Edit warring to remove sourced content, twice removing subject's last name without explanation. More eyes appreciated. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:40, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
Advice welcome
Drmies or JJMC89, the edit history of TheRoadDudeMN (talk · contribs) reminds me of that of the blocked Baltimore historian, if far less long term and egregious. Do we accept unsourced and original research content re: trail and road routes? A lot of it looks like WP:OR trivia. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:14, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
- Rather than responding to my message at their talk page, this is what followed [7]. Not terribly encouraging. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:16, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
- I think the detail is excessive but I am happy someone is writing up trails. Whether they're notable, that's another matter. The sourcing is poor, but the editor is brand-new, so I'm pleased they found Wikipedia as an outlet. One thing that I've done with such users who are doing things that are in principle good but in practice not yet sufficient is give them some proper secondary sources (there's this and this) and tell them what on Wikipedia we can legitimately do with those sources, what content we can verify with it. I wrote something sort of like it...I'll try to find it. Drmies (talk) 01:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. I'll share this. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:40, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- I think the detail is excessive but I am happy someone is writing up trails. Whether they're notable, that's another matter. The sourcing is poor, but the editor is brand-new, so I'm pleased they found Wikipedia as an outlet. One thing that I've done with such users who are doing things that are in principle good but in practice not yet sufficient is give them some proper secondary sources (there's this and this) and tell them what on Wikipedia we can legitimately do with those sources, what content we can verify with it. I wrote something sort of like it...I'll try to find it. Drmies (talk) 01:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
A minor incident, but I'd like some feedback on whether to let this go or restore the cite needed template. [8] Would inform my practice moving forward, too. Thanks. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:00, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- I prefer removal for BLPs. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:06, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you
Thanks for your work to maintain neutrality at European Fund for the Balkans. JBW (talk) 15:52, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help, JBW. It still needs copyright mop up, but a user block stanches the damage. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:10, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks to Materialscientist for locking this. Requesting someone look at the ocean of unsourced and largely promotional content added in 2014, and weigh in on whether it ought to be removed en masse. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
Lower profile bringing this here than posting to ANI; perhaps an admin will lock this bio and rev/delete some of the inane defamatory edits of recent weeks. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:42, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Let's say this article is one of the meeting points for a proliferation of throwaway accounts--I'm guessing they're all socks of someone who's been blocked. See also Gedung Setan, Madanapalle Institute of Technology and Science and 2008–12 legislature of the Romanian Parliament, among others. It's either a disruptive farm or foreign students who don't write very well in English. Don't know how to proceed with this, so I'm asking some review by Drmies, JJMC89 or ToBeFree. I suspect there are a lot more accounts and articles involved than the few I've found thus far. Thank you, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:00, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm putting my money on one or several high school/college students [9]; [10]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notification; I have now blocked the disruption-only accounts while keeping the constructive ones unblocked. Feel free to create a sock puppet investigation, but if it's really a group of students, I guess the filtering approach I've now taken might be the best way to deal with the problem. I do strongly recommend using WP:ANI for such messages, to avoid relying on specific administrators and to ensure that all possible measures are taken. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 05:53, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- ToBeFree, thank you. You're right, though I don't want to inundate ANI with reports, and opt to be a pain in the ass here as an alternative. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:14, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
While we're at it, maybe someone can rev/delete the defamation/harassment at User talk:GreenMeansGo. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:59, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- ToBeFree, thank you and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:12, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Psst. :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Christian
Hi. If you're concerned about this BLP, you should know this. The edit you undid,[11] was removed[12] by someone claiming to be the subject[13] (quite credibly IMO). If you want to undo your edit, I won't be complaining. -- zzuuzz (talk) 19:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- I saw that they claimed to be the subject. Were they undoing their own comments? If so, I'll revert my edit, zzuuzz, or feel free to do it for me. Thank you, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:17, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for catching this!
It looks like my connection may be lagging with Huggle, so the vandalism I meant to revert reverted your edit and sent you a warning. I'm going to stop until I have a fix. Thank you so much! --Marx01 Tell me about it 04:34, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Marx01. That's why I opt to revert without the sharper technology, and have a desktop that runs on hamster power. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:36, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
New avatar
Alas. 2601:188:180:B8E0:21D6:1091:AF1A:B4BB (talk) 09:01, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
More eyes appreciated. Aside from the most recent edits, by an eponymous account (block, anyone, for a username that impersonates a notable individual?) virtually nothing here is sourced. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:58, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Bob, thanks for noticing this one - I think part of the problem is it wasn't categorized as a BLP. I did a little bit there, but I think after seeing this edifying material I'll leave it for now. I also mucked about a bit with Nikhil Chinapa. I guess everybody else is too busy worrying about COVID-19 (and I'm limiting my edits each month to try not to minimize the WMF's use of me as a statistic, so I can't do too much even if I get told not to go in to work). Anyway, thanks for the bell-ringing. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:42, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yngvadottir, I didn't catch your comments here until later in the day. Thank you very much. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:46, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you!
Hello, 2601,
I just wanted to thank you for your anti-vandalism work, especially on high-visibility articles on the coronavirus. I'm hoping that with vigilance we can avoid having to semi-protect these articles so that all editors can contribute to them. Thanks again. Liz Read! Talk! 20:30, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Liz, for your assistance. The sentiment is a fine one, though the algorithms of Wikipedia suggest protection is inevitable. More public recognition = increased vandalism. Although, the kids are home from high school, so that may actually cut down on disruption. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:35, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
RfA?
How can I nominate you if you don't register an account? Seriously - thanks for everything you do. GirthSummit (blether) 22:40, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Ha! Thank you, Girth Summit. Between you and me, when I was still pretty new here and using a registered account only, two administrators asked me for permission to nominate, and I declined both times. Was too busy adding content and creating articles. Now I'm too busy doing whatever it is I do, and I enjoy being an anonymous nuisance to vandals and promoters. And unintentionally annoying admins, too. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:43, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I can see some attractions of anonymity. IPs are hard to recognise, but I've learned to pick up on the CD63 bit, and to expect clueful edits from you - keep doing whatever it is you do, let me know if I can ever help. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 23:31, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Will do. Thank you very much. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:50, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- But....it seems to me that reports of blatant vandalism are languishing at AIV, sometimes for hours, as I can't recall seeing in years. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:17, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- And I always knew that I lacked the temperament to be an admin. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:34, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- But....it seems to me that reports of blatant vandalism are languishing at AIV, sometimes for hours, as I can't recall seeing in years. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:17, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Will do. Thank you very much. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:50, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I can see some attractions of anonymity. IPs are hard to recognise, but I've learned to pick up on the CD63 bit, and to expect clueful edits from you - keep doing whatever it is you do, let me know if I can ever help. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 23:31, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
ANI
Hi Bob! I'm just leaving you a note to let you know that I replied to the discussion you started at ANI just a bit ago. I hope you have a great rest of your weekend and that we keep in touch. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:33, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Oshwah. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:00, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Always happy to help. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:13, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
AIV and sock puppetry
I found the other account and I indef'd it as well. Thanks for letting me know! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Oshwah. Looks like the socks keep coming--Victoria School could use a lock. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:48, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- (TP stalker) protected for one month. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:04, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- Stalk on, Ohnoitsjamie. Thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:06, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- (TP stalker) protected for one month. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:04, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- Sweet deal - thank you, Ohnoitsjamie, for taking care of that! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:54, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Talk page watchers, a long term puffery post, apparently overseen by COI accounts. I've started to clean, but would appreciate more eyes. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:23, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- Serial Number 54129, thank you very much. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:37, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah See how long it sticks. ——SN54129 19:40, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- Well, yes. There are always other options, if necessary. Though a report at the BLP noticeboard can grow whiskers waiting for a response. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:42, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- First of all, who knew [14]? Damn, another thing I can never unsee. Second, thanks, Serial Number 54129. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:32, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
- Well, yes. There are always other options, if necessary. Though a report at the BLP noticeboard can grow whiskers waiting for a response. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:42, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
One doesn't know where to begin. Bless anyone who wishes to take this on with a discerning eye. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:54, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Mass copyright violations from multiple sources. I'm not pinging Diannaa anymore, because she's heard from me enough. Any sequestered admins are invited to have a look. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:37, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
`help me~ This is Darlene. I am new to Wikipedia and I need help in determining what the problems are with post. Happy to adjust it, as needed. Dtrewcrist (talk) 21:02, 19 March 2020 (UTC) dtrewcrist
- Darlene, Dtrewcrist, Hi! I suspect you may have been the original author of some, or much, of the content you were posting. Even so, you can't copy and paste it here, and WP:SELFCITE would be a concern, albeit less pressing than copyright issues. Maybe the best practice would be to be selective in what you extract from your sources, since we're an encyclopedia and not a brochure. That's even more relevant if the sources are WP:PRIMARY, since you don't want to lean too much on that. And of course, everything has to be sourced. It's a bit of an obstacle course, especially if you have any conflict of interest with the subject--WP:COI. All that said, you're a professional, and will be able to navigate this. Give me a holler and I'll help if I can, or one of my colleagues will. Cheers on this crash course, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:09, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, once I read through all of this, I'll be back in touch. Most appreciated Dtrewcrist (talk) 21:13, 19 March 2020 (UTC)dtrewcrist
COI at Pearl Thompson
Regarding the Pearl Thompson update, this information is correct and cited by the years stated by the artist representative. Is there any way of having approval or confirmation? Sayhellotoc3po (talk · contribs)
- Hi, Sayhellotoc3po. All content must be supported by published WP:RELIABLE sources; (it's unbelievable that nobody made you aware of this in five years). We can't publish material, especially in a WP:BLP article, unless it's properly referenced, and the say-so of the artist or their associates isn't acceptable. Further, there's a WP:COI issue--a subject's paid agent is rarely a reliable source for neutral information. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:49, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
March 2020
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Since you don't get alerts...
...I'm letting you know that I replied to your message on my user talk page. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:36, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Quacks like block evasion by Brockton vandal
Antandrus, I submit 46.98.84.49 (talk · contribs). Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:52, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you - missed that one. Blocked now. Antandrus (talk) 04:48, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. In addition to sequestration, WiFi is down here. It’s like we’re camping in the woods. Except for the Burger King drive through we just went through. 2600:387:0:803:0:0:0:B0 (talk) 19:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Archive talk page?
Hi CD63, if you would like to have older conversations archived, just say the word and I will be happy to do it for you. S0091 (talk) 19:58, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- (watching) @S0091: an equally useful target for your archiving talents would be here... :) ——SN54129 20:09, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- Haha! That one is a bit intimidating. Perhaps I oversold my archiving talents. :) S0091 (talk) 20:16, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, S0091. Maybe soon. When it really gets annoying for others. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:75BB:4BD0:D3CD:79D (talk) 22:12, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
- Haha! That one is a bit intimidating. Perhaps I oversold my archiving talents. :) S0091 (talk) 20:16, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
New temporary IP
So it goes....2601:188:180:B8E0:75BB:4BD0:D3CD:79D (talk) 22:11, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Speedy as a non notable group? A sect with thirty members and no WP:RELIABLE sources. The article was posted thirteen years ago..... 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:00, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
JJMC89 or Oshwah, could you rev/delete the defamatory content? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:12, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:16, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Bob! Sorry for the late response. Glad to see that this was taken care of. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Talk:Katyń (film)
Please see my decline at WP:RFPP permalink. Johnuniq (talk) 02:29, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
- Much appreciated, Johnuniq. It's sporadic, but we can count on a recurrence. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:30, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
- Johnuniq, I think it's time for the page lock. 2601:188:180:B8E0:DC8C:D31D:1DDB:9A1A (talk) 23:46, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- I asked at User talk:Antandrus#LTA and am watching Talk:Katyń (film). Johnuniq (talk) 00:09, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Great, Johnuniq, and thanks to Antandrus, too. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:03, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- I asked at User talk:Antandrus#LTA and am watching Talk:Katyń (film). Johnuniq (talk) 00:09, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Another internet disconnection, another avatar
Leaving breadcrumbs. 2601:188:180:B8E0:DC8C:D31D:1DDB:9A1A (talk) 20:56, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
More eyes appreciated
I've taken two bios to noticeboards, both suffering from promotional or, in the case of Upshur, persistent unsourced and copyright violations. Thanks to talk page stalkers. 2601:188:180:B8E0:DC8C:D31D:1DDB:9A1A (talk) 21:29, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- I've handed out blocks and removed some more copyvio. — JJMC89 (T·C) 22:46, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- JJMC89, thank you. And wherever you are, stay safe and be well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:DC8C:D31D:1DDB:9A1A (talk) 23:44, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Cookies
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- Thank you, Cryptic Canadian! Not the first time I've been mistakenly trolled by the bot at AIV, won't be the last. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:28, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Murder
Blue linked murder being changed, I would love to know why. Not disruptive at all, but DE -Sensationalizing. Unless your goal in Sensationalism? Why not make every word blue. Especially annoying as I doubt you have ANY familiarity with the page in question. As for citations for other edits, yes and I will add them. Freelonius (talk) 01:19, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- Probably not my favorite wikilink of all time, but there was nothing wrong with it, and it doesn't sensationalize the matter. As for annoying, your first few edits didn't bode really well, and charging moi with lack of familiarity isn't a good fit. Please do find WP:RELIABLE sources, and refrain from adding trivia to the introduction of an article, or to ANY article in general. Good luck, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:32, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- More to the point, Freelonius, almost none of James Gurley is sourced. What an article in that condition needs is reliable published sources for what's already there. Since the subject was a notable musician, sources exist. But one of the problematic areas, for instance, is the detail about his personal relationship with Joplin--it all really needs references. Where did the details here come from? The point is, all the unsourced content may be removed at any time. I haven't done that, yet. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:01, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- Two good starting points that may be used for citations: [15]; [16]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:05, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Stay six feet away, maybe.
Drmies (talk) 02:00, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. You stay safe, too, as we're inclined to say these days. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:10, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Advert, COI and copyright infringement. Talk page stalkers, perhaps we can begin by rev/deleting plagiarized content, which goes back at least to mid September of last year. Hey, maybe a lot further. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:36, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- I've done some copyvio cleanup. It wouldn't surprise me if there is still some left. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:10, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, JJMC89. I may go back into it to remove some of the unsourced and promotional stuff, and check a few random passages for copyright issues. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:46, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Is this account drafting hoaxes?
These drafts seem really unlikely, and call into question their unsourced edits at existing articles. The standard children's animation obsession. Talk page stalkers welcome to have a look. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:30, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Talk page watchers--Melcous, Serial Number and JJMC, I'm not going to ping you, but you know the drill--if you've got time, this is an accretion of unsourced history strung together by a WP:COI. I hate to go in and undo it, but there's so much cruft of non essential unsourced content and photos. It's a scrapbook. Suggestions welcome. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:49, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
- And for the admins, the possibility that multiple passages were copied from the town FD's website. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
- JJMC89, thank you for dealing with the copyright issues. This is an ownership problem, an enthusiast who's not sourcing anything. It needs a scalpel in a dozen ways, but as is often the case, I'm hesitant, as I've already spent too much time there. If Melcous or Serial Number 54129 have any suggestions, I'm all ears. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:55, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- I've done an initial cull of what seemed clearly non-encyclopaedic. Might come back later. Hope you are doing well. Melcous (talk) 03:36, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Melcous, thank you. Well enough, though a series of health issues--including the virus--has been a concern for close family. And the novelty of isolation is wearing off with the realization that this isn't ending any time soon.....otherwise, peachy. Hope you're well and staying safe. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- I've done an initial cull of what seemed clearly non-encyclopaedic. Might come back later. Hope you are doing well. Melcous (talk) 03:36, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- JJMC89, thank you for dealing with the copyright issues. This is an ownership problem, an enthusiast who's not sourcing anything. It needs a scalpel in a dozen ways, but as is often the case, I'm hesitant, as I've already spent too much time there. If Melcous or Serial Number 54129 have any suggestions, I'm all ears. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:55, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Requests for bureaucratship notification
Per WP:IAR. {{SUBST:replyto|Can I Log In}}
PLEASE copy and paste the code to reply(Talk) 03:10, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, and Happy April Fool's Day to you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:14, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- Requests for bureaucratship
{{SUBST:replyto|Can I Log In}}
PLEASE copy and paste the code to reply(Talk) 03:32, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- Requests for bureaucratship
A kitten for you!
Just popping in to say hi and to thank you for your tireless work!
— Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 03:30, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Javert2113. Be well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:57, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Jim Jones
I wondered when they'd pop back in to dump their mess again. Thanks for reverting. 121.44.38.245 (talk) 12:07, 2 April 2020 (UTC) (another who likes being an IP address!)
- Of course. It was not an article I'd been watching, but came across while reviewing recent edits. It was easy enough to check the content, edit history and associated discussions. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:30, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Would appreciate some more eyes on this WP:BLP, and whether the personal life content I've twice restored is worth keeping. There appears to be a COI account trying to clean things up. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:38, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
A really old incarnation
Back from when I amassed a lot of edits with dozens of 99 IPs; I think 99.178.163.130 (talk · contribs) was one. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:03, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps rev/deletion of a recent edit; JJMC89 or ToBeFree, what do you think? Borderline? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:01, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, ToBeFree. It was pretty nasty, at that. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:13, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- It wasn't borderline, it was oversighted when I forwarded the request. No worries, though, and thanks for the report. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:48, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
ToBeFree, we may have some rev/deletion content; defamatory business. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:30, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Another avatar
Who I am today. 2601:188:180:B8E0:F0DC:1123:FA3D:179C (talk) 17:32, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
ToBeFree, do you think the scandal business I reverted is defamatory enough to be erased? Thanks, and sorry my IP is hopping of its own volition tonight. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 03:12, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Being an IP hopper is a sign that you need to register an account ASAP! But annonymously so we don't connect your account to your IP. Just do it! If your IP is not 1234567890% static, then you must register an account. {{replyto}} Can I Log In's (talk) page 05:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- No, there's no imperative to register an account. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 15:13, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for all your work
Without replying to any of the above sections specifically, I'd like to thank you for all the work you do. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 11:50, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- The sentiment is mutual, ToBeFree. Thanks, 73.186.215.222 (talk) 15:14, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- That's wonderful to hear. You're welcome and thanks again ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Question to talk page stalkers with a literary bent--and that would, I hope, be all of you--how much of this borderline promo is relevant to the publisher, and how much of it is piggybacking on the success of his authors? I suspect even Maxwell Perkins didn't take this much credit. Thanks, 73.186.215.222 (talk) 16:02, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Quick take; I wouldn't count the the notable books/authors he's published/represented much toward notability, but rather if he himself has been written about with any kind of depth in reliable sources. There are a few reliable sources that talk about his 1969 book, but the article definitely feels like it's reaching for notability, and I suspect a COI by the creator/main contributor. I could see it going either way in an AfD. OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- I wasn't even questioning notability yet, Ohnoitsjamie, but you have a point. And there's little doubt that a COI editor is involved, using multiple 'Rocket88' accounts. Edits to other articles substantiate that conclusion. A lot of the namedropping and review blurbs can go. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 16:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
A bio with long term COI involvement--I think I came across this one evening while following Drmies's recent edits. Can probably use more cleaning up, and more eyes in general. Thanks, talk page stalkers. Hope all are healthy. Until next time, be well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:03, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:54, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't do very much--at some point you can only clean so many toilets before you have to vomit. I hope you and yours are well. We're doing lots of cooking and online teaching/learning. And we're lucky, with a big house and a yard; my heart goes out to all the people who don't have that luxury. Take care, Drmies (talk) 19:55, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- At some point I may return to it and trim more unsourced. Ditto on the new lifestyle. Revving up to teach online this month, and feeling blessed to have left the city years ago for rural digs. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:19, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't do very much--at some point you can only clean so many toilets before you have to vomit. I hope you and yours are well. We're doing lots of cooking and online teaching/learning. And we're lucky, with a big house and a yard; my heart goes out to all the people who don't have that luxury. Take care, Drmies (talk) 19:55, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Baltimore block evasion, again
50.253.51.81 (talk · contribs) looks like Duane E. Tressler (talk · contribs). Drmies, do you want to roll back everything? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:36, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- And I've already received two erroneous warnings for trying to clean up his crap. So some assistance would be great, or we can do another waste of time at ANI. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:54, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- I noted your rather valiant anti vandalism efforts and was wondering if you'd ever consider making an account? See, by making an account you can have access to tools like Twinkle which can quickly and easily report Sockpuppeting without the whole mess of having to manually go round all the manually writing up everything. It just makes life easier. A suggestion, you're doing brill btw, keep it up! (also, having twinkle or another tool really helps us as you won't get as many Cluebot reverts or (mainly me) getting confused due to the "rapid reverting edits" tags) Ed6767 (talk) 02:14, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Side note: I would help to clear this up but with over 400 edits, there's too much to roll back and not all of it looks nonconstructive. I can file a sockpuppeting report for you if you'd like? Ed6767 (talk) 02:18, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- I noted your rather valiant anti vandalism efforts and was wondering if you'd ever consider making an account? See, by making an account you can have access to tools like Twinkle which can quickly and easily report Sockpuppeting without the whole mess of having to manually go round all the manually writing up everything. It just makes life easier. A suggestion, you're doing brill btw, keep it up! (also, having twinkle or another tool really helps us as you won't get as many Cluebot reverts or (mainly me) getting confused due to the "rapid reverting edits" tags) Ed6767 (talk) 02:14, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- 2601, you deserve a medal for all those reverts. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 02:23, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- This has been going on at least since 2015, when Mr. Tressler was blocked. He has since made a hobby of editing from Baltimore libraries; it's all block evasion, mostly unsourced and largely violates WP:MOS in multiple ways. All this was explained when his account was indefinitely blocked by Drmies. We've since discussed his socks on multiple occasions, including [17] above. Ed6767, feel free to open an SPI. Once you start down that rabbit hole, it will go a long way. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:24, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Oh gosh lol, this guy just won't give up. Rather silly. Thank you so much for making all those reverts! Ed6767 (talk) 02:27, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Drmies, thanks. I really don't intend to unretire, but then I pick up one of the Baltimore threads and marvel at its longevity without anyone noticing or blocking. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:28, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Oh gosh lol, this guy just won't give up. Rather silly. Thank you so much for making all those reverts! Ed6767 (talk) 02:27, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- This has been going on at least since 2015, when Mr. Tressler was blocked. He has since made a hobby of editing from Baltimore libraries; it's all block evasion, mostly unsourced and largely violates WP:MOS in multiple ways. All this was explained when his account was indefinitely blocked by Drmies. We've since discussed his socks on multiple occasions, including [17] above. Ed6767, feel free to open an SPI. Once you start down that rabbit hole, it will go a long way. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:24, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
New temporary IP
Power apparently went off, and here we are. 2601:188:180:B8E0:79AD:9587:3F30:15D7 (talk) 20:14, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Would appreciate more eyes on this--I've removed unsourced content with copyright/paraphrase issues twice. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:25, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- [18], page 153. I'm at the verge of edit warring to remove unacceptable content. Admin help welcome. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:58, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Another brief but brilliant incarnation
Tag. What happens when I reboot. 2601:188:180:B8E0:8582:E7C7:C0B6:2FB7 (talk) 03:11, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
Requesting help for persistent promotional editing
Continuing since my initial report last month [19]. More eyes and administrative action appreciated. Articles may need to be salted. 2601:188:180:B8E0:8582:E7C7:C0B6:2FB7 (talk) 06:13, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
Lots of unsourced, original research and Disney hagiography. More eyes requested. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:15, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, this article is a mess. We need more expertise. I'm new and doing what I can. Appreciate your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikiroom (talk • contribs) 20:14, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Tikiroom, it needs sources, period. I'm generally not copy editing the vast tracts of unreferenced content, because it's a waste of time unless there's some reliable published corroboration. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:20, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
That makes sense. I will try to reach out to some other people for some collaboration on this. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikiroom (talk • contribs) 23:01, 9 July 2020 (UTC) Please note that I have a PhD and been published by Routledge. I do not think Walt Disney was a God and plan to present both the pros and cons of the concept. There is a lot of high school level material in the article and will require time and patience. You said it needs sources, period. You are wrong. It needs much better material AND sources. I know a lot about the subject and Wikipedia would be lucky to have my help fixing this utter mess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikiroom (talk • contribs) 05:13, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Terrific. Wikipedia looks forward to benefiting from your contributions. We are lucky to accept well sourced, objective research from tens of thousands of contributors. Good luck, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:41, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
I'd appreciate some input from JJMC89 and Drmies, having twice hit a wall with administrators over speedy deletion of the article. See the talk page [20]. It was laden with unacceptable sources, which I've pruned, and pretty likely written by a WP:COI. I don't see anything there supporting notability, and would nominate via AFD if I could. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:23, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, I probably wouldn't have supported speedy deletion either, but I put it up at AfD, cause that seems like the right choice. Drmies (talk) 01:57, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | ||
Thanks for all your hard work! Thanoscar21talk, contribs 22:02, 16 July 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you, Thanoscar21. I assure you I'm quite tiresome. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:38, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Mass copyright violations at WLPC-CD
For passing administrators, a nice bouquet of rev/delete awaits. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:36, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Another avatar
I wake up, sit down to the desktop, and find myself thus gifted with a temporary IP. 2601:188:180:B8E0:75D4:48D4:757F:B45F (talk) 21:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Long term resume/hagiography, with few sources. I can go in and cut most of it, but the edits will likely be treated as vandalism, or just reverted by the accounts that have long overseen it. Drmies or Melcous, any interest? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 12:45, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hey B0B, it's been a while, hope you are keeping ok in this most unusual year. I've had a go at cleanup, will see what happens next. Cheers, Melcous (talk) 13:12, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- Good to hear from you, Melcous. Staying well and hoping you are, too. Looking forward to next year....then I can enjoy 2020 hindsight. Terrific work, thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:16, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Adding poor quality images of your own artwork
Hey, I noticed you went and deleted a number of images I posted to pages. I am wondering why. Some of the pages did not have any image at all associated with them. Wikipedia often uses works of art as the image for a given article and there are not rules against that. How does the addition of the image take away from the article?
--Benjamincookart (talk) 18:15, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- I did delete them, and now you've restored them. The images do nothing to improve the articles, are often related to the titles in tangential ways, and function mainly as promotion of your work. Some thoughts and assistance from Drmies, Melcous or JJMC89 will be appreciated. I don't want to edit war, or make it look like I'm being sneaky by using multiple IPs. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 21:00, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- I agree that they add nothing. There are rare cases where user artwork may be appropriate in the absent of photographs, but none of your images were useful. There are plenty of other places on the Internet to show off your art; Wikipedia isn't free webhosting. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:05, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. I didn't realize you'd already reverted back and left them a message. Cheers, 73.186.215.222 (talk) 21:07, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- I agree that they add nothing. There are rare cases where user artwork may be appropriate in the absent of photographs, but none of your images were useful. There are plenty of other places on the Internet to show off your art; Wikipedia isn't free webhosting. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:05, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
I am still wondering where this "rule" comes from? Could you point me to the location where it is stated that photographs are preferred over other forms of images? Is this an unspoken protocol? If there are no specific rules against it, I do not think that you should be taking it down. Also, the image is 350dpi, and not poor quality as far as resolution goes. If you are speaking to the style or content of the image, then okay, you can have that opinion.
As stated on Wikipedia's guidelines for posting images. It explicitely states that the use of paintings are okay.
"Images should look like what they are meant to illustrate, whether or not they are provably authentic. For example, a photograph of a trompe-l'œil painting of a cupcake may be an acceptable image for Cupcake, but a real cupcake that has been decorated to look like something else entirely is less appropriate. Similarly, an image of a generic-looking cell under a light microscope might be useful on multiple articles, as long as there are no visible differences between the cell in the image and the typical appearance of the cell being illustrated."
Additionally, the creation and use of my own content for an article is permitted:
"Making images yourself [edit] For further information, see: Commons:How to take pictures and Graphics tutorials You may upload photographs, drawings, or other graphics created with a camera, scanner, graphics software, and so on. When photographing or scanning potentially copyrighted works, or creating depictions of persons other than yourself, be sure to respect copyright and privacy restrictions.[further explanation needed] In order to maximize images' usefulness in all languages, avoid including text within them. Instead, add text, links, references, etc., to images using Template:Annotated image or Template:Annotated image 4, which can also be used to expand the area around an image or crop and enlarge part of an image—all without the need for uploading a new, modified image."
--Benjamincookart (talk) 00:46, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- From /Wikipedia:Donated_artwork It is an effort to acquire original portrait images for articles where no photograph is currently available. You're not contributing anything that we don't already have plenty of photos of. OhNoitsJamie Talk 00:50, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- You're really forcing my hand, as well as that of other editors here: The images aren't very good, they are not specific to the article subjects, and the persistent attempts to include them indicate and underscore a self-promotional intent. Please don't leave any more messages here, and understand that I'll request a block on your account if you continue. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 00:59, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
History of promotional edits and copyright violations at CHI St. Alexius Health Bismarck and Stan VanderWerf
If any admins are bored, there's some edit history rev/deletion on both of these. The bio appears to have been originally constructed by copying the candidate's campaign website. Really [21]. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 02:13, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- And someone please block Benjamincookart (talk · contribs) for wikilawyering all over the landscape. See above section. Otherwise I'll take it to ANI tomorrow. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 02:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- I've taken it to ANI. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 02:33, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Melcous, you're good with these--created by a promotional/paid account, looked after by family. I've done some pruning, but it still may carry excessive quotes and photos. Your thoughts appreciated. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 15:18, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Return to Jim Jones
Drmies and ToBeFree, 98.208.64.39 (talk · contribs), who you've both blocked in the past, returned this week for more of same. A bit stale to report now, but this user merits a longer time out. Cheers, 73.186.215.222 (talk) 22:30, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- They were warned--if they do it again I'll be happy to be block for very, very long. Drmies (talk) 01:21, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 02:58, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks you two :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 05:19, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 02:58, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
Would appreciate some thoughts on See Also sections
Re: Boro Boro and other articles connected through their 'see alsos'. Thanks, 73.186.215.222 (talk) 20:21, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Have begun a thread at ANI [22]. I'd assumed there are general editorial limits to such sections. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 20:47, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- You're welcome; I saw it at AN/I and thought it was prematurely closed, but since they haven't edited since, it may be moot. Anyway I looked at them and did think they all contravened MOS:ALSO. I haven't looked at the draft they were including, since not only am I a notorious softie inclined to accept great swathes of AfC articles and spend altogether too much time fixing them up (especially now I've had to throttle back to 99 edits a month), but I don't know much about popular music anywhere, including Bollywood songs. It's possible they're interested in a set of artists and songs that are underrepresented on Wikipedia, which is why I suggested a list article might be the way to go, but it does rather look from their AN/I statement as if they proceeded from the premise that Google suggesting it meant it was not only connected but notable. So I tried to give clear edit summaries. Anyway, I believe we've "met" a few times before, so you know what a waffler I am, and how little influence I have around here, so if they do come back with similar lists, I suggest AN/I again and possibly pinging a few of the powers that be. (I hope a few of those still watch here and will also keep an eye out, so we can try to explain the guidelines.) And, stay healthy! Yngvadottir (talk) 03:58, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks so much, Yngvadottir. If I go back through my registered edit history I'll probably find some parallel interests, but will remain cryptic for the moment. Unfortunately, that editor's problems with See Also sections aren't limited to Bollywood music. I haven't turned over every stone, but saw other articles with some strangely inapplicable links. Some rabbit holes are a pain to go down, so I appreciate your willingness to have taken this up at all. You stay well, too....(a salutation with a whole new poignancy these days). 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:06, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- You're welcome; I saw it at AN/I and thought it was prematurely closed, but since they haven't edited since, it may be moot. Anyway I looked at them and did think they all contravened MOS:ALSO. I haven't looked at the draft they were including, since not only am I a notorious softie inclined to accept great swathes of AfC articles and spend altogether too much time fixing them up (especially now I've had to throttle back to 99 edits a month), but I don't know much about popular music anywhere, including Bollywood songs. It's possible they're interested in a set of artists and songs that are underrepresented on Wikipedia, which is why I suggested a list article might be the way to go, but it does rather look from their AN/I statement as if they proceeded from the premise that Google suggesting it meant it was not only connected but notable. So I tried to give clear edit summaries. Anyway, I believe we've "met" a few times before, so you know what a waffler I am, and how little influence I have around here, so if they do come back with similar lists, I suggest AN/I again and possibly pinging a few of the powers that be. (I hope a few of those still watch here and will also keep an eye out, so we can try to explain the guidelines.) And, stay healthy! Yngvadottir (talk) 03:58, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Re: AIV RajaGury
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I don't understand why an upstanding IP editor like yourself can't avail themselves of the CSD process for legitimate spam but...I've gone ahead and nominated the userpage in question myself; as I was patrolling the same thing and noticed you were unable to do so. Cheers! ♥ Melody ♥ 02:50, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
- The mechanisms that be won't allow it. Thank you very much, Melody_Concerto. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:51, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
- A template pops up stating that an unregistered account can not edit another editor's user page, so I'm blocked from doing so. Drafts and talk pages are open. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:57, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
August 2020
Apologies It wasw the previous edit in my window I intended to revert at the same time as you JW 1961 Talk 16:53, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- That's cool. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:54, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Drmies, can you lock this for a good stretch? If not I'll go to the noticeboard. The promotion never ends. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:38, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- (TPS) Done OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:02, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- Oh that was still going on? Man. User:Ohnoitsjamie, thank you. Drmies (talk) 22:26, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. I may have cut a legitimate source in the reversion, but mostly was interested in cauterizing the wound. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:56, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- And thank you for the rangeblock, Drmies. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:58, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- My pleasure! All the best to you and yours. I'm drinking beer, and we made tamales. Before you know it school starts again, and we'll all pretend things are normal when nothing is. Drmies (talk) 00:19, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- Likewise, Drmies, I hope you're well. Dinner's in the books, I drank something with gin and I'm watching a strangely empty stadium where the Yankees and Red Sox are playing. I can't imagine schools reopening will be anything but a disaster. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:31, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- My pleasure! All the best to you and yours. I'm drinking beer, and we made tamales. Before you know it school starts again, and we'll all pretend things are normal when nothing is. Drmies (talk) 00:19, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Would love it if some admins and dedicated anti-vandalism editors added this to their watchlists. For more than two years, numerous IPs from Colorado have been hijacking this article about a venerable, defunct establishment, to promote a non notable Aspen store established in 2018. I've requested indefinite page protection, but am not expecting much since it's slow, longterm vandalism and has never been called out as such. Until now. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:04, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Or one of those admins can just indefinitely semi the page :) Done. GeneralNotability (talk) 15:08, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- GeneralNotability, thank you very much. When I came across the article last night, I thought this was a minor promotional issue. It took a little while for the dawn to break; the edit history revealed a lengthy, concerted effort by COI IPs to commandeer the article. Much appreciated. (Apologies for the IP changes--we already lost power once, and the storm is just kicking up here now, so it's bound to happen again). 2601:188:180:B8E0:8075:CB9B:8A6D:5221 (talk) 19:26, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
How much leeway does a WP:SPA have with a draft?
I ask with regard to User:Ryancoke2020/sandbox, which is nothing if not promotional through and through. 2601:188:180:B8E0:8075:CB9B:8A6D:5221 (talk) 19:48, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Drmies, Melcous or Ohnoitsjamie, I could use a hand here. I tried to de-puff the career section but just fouled up the cites. Any help, including an eye on the COI accounts, will be appreciated. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Another power outage, another avatar
For the moment, anyway. 2601:188:180:B8E0:1D7D:1249:C1A7:F612 (talk) 01:25, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Another thunderstorm, another IP
Knocked offline overnight. 2601:188:180:B8E0:A834:6250:2E50:37AC (talk) 16:21, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
An accretion of poorly sourced promotional writing for the small town. Drmies or Melcous, want to have a look? I've started, bit there's a lot of non notable cruft, both written and images. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:A834:6250:2E50:37AC (talk) 17:00, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ugh. I know where to start, but I don't know where to finish... Drmies (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- My sentiment exactly. 2601:188:180:B8E0:A834:6250:2E50:37AC (talk) 17:27, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'll return to it from time to time. The culling appears limitless. 2601:188:180:B8E0:A834:6250:2E50:37AC (talk) 17:31, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Oh wow. Not for me today, but good work already you two :) Melcous (talk) 23:35, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Melcous. Drmies has been a great help. 2601:188:180:B8E0:A834:6250:2E50:37AC (talk) 23:50, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- It took a village to get Wyandanch, New York in shape. And after all that this was necessary, haha. Drmies (talk) 17:02, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Melcous. Drmies has been a great help. 2601:188:180:B8E0:A834:6250:2E50:37AC (talk) 23:50, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Oh wow. Not for me today, but good work already you two :) Melcous (talk) 23:35, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
Copyright issues at Blood on the Risers?
Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie, there's been disagreement for years about the correct lyrics here. If it's a WW II song, do we publish the lyrics at all? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:52, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Lyrics_and_poetry; I can't think of any exemptions that would apply to this. From what I can gather, it was written (and presumably copyrighted) by J.H. Kight in 1943. OhNoitsJamie Talk 00:00, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Diannaa, would you mind weighing in on this? OhNoitsJamie Talk 00:02, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Unless proven otherwise, we have to assume that a song from 1943 still enjoys copyright protection.— Diannaa (talk) 02:32, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'll do the honors. I expect a few veterans will restore. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:33, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- It only took a minute [23]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:39, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- I don't want to do revision deletion -the lyrics have been in the article since the year dot. I will watch-list for a while though.— Diannaa (talk) 14:34, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'll do the honors. I expect a few veterans will restore. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:33, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Unless proven otherwise, we have to assume that a song from 1943 still enjoys copyright protection.— Diannaa (talk) 02:32, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Diannaa, would you mind weighing in on this? OhNoitsJamie Talk 00:02, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
frustration
I was remiss in not addressing that at ANI. Sometimes the words get stuck on the way to the keyboard. If you ever see a zero tolerance edit like that again, please feel free to ping me or to message me on my talk. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:40, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- I appreciate it, Deepfriedokra. In reporting at ANI, I decided not to call out specific admins--I need to play nice with them on a fairly daily basis, and no harm was intended--but there's an occasional blind spot on this that tends to reflect the larger cultural ignorance. And AIV reports more easily fall through the cracks in the middle of the night, eastern time, when so few admins are at the keyboard. Still, I was surprised and disappointed that the report lingered for so long, was commented on by one admin and finally reverted as stale. Very best and thanks again, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:46, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
Lafayette Radio Electronics
Sorry, looks like we tried to revert the vandalism on this page at the same time. Thanks for sorting. Equine-man (talk) 14:31, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks to both of you. DMacks (talk) 14:56, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- Quite alright. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:58, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
Self promotion at Neo-futurism
Hi Drmies and Melcous, and with apologies for pinging you...but you're both so good. Astra Papachristodoulou, who now goes by Hobbit1991 (talk · contribs), is here primarily to promote their work. I can edit war, or bring this to COI, but sometimes prefer to summon the masters. Your thoughts welcome. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:43, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- Oh man, Ohnoitsjamie is way too fast. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:46, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
This may profit from page protection. I also wonder whether the crap that was added overnight has earned consideration for rev/deletion. Persistent reference to her sexual appetites doesn't belong in the article history. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:12, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- ...and, Ohnoitsjamie or Drmies, United People's Party Liberal could use some attention. Persistent spamming there, and I've reverted to a bare bones but better sourced version. Perhaps something from what I pared can be rescued, but the COI accounts have to be restrained. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:15, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- Added them to my watch. Franzel is teetering on the edge of needing protection (two editors blocked so far; still manageable by blocks). OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:21, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- Much appreciated, Ohnoitsjamie. Very best, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:25, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- Added them to my watch. Franzel is teetering on the edge of needing protection (two editors blocked so far; still manageable by blocks). OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:21, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- User:Timothy19, I appreciate what you were trying to do there, but the net result is that ten edits had to be revdeleted rather than just a couple. Drmies (talk) 00:35, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Drmies: if the vandal's username had to be revdel'ed in its edits, should the next edit's edit-summaries that mention it also be revdel'ed? DMacks (talk) 01:29, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- DMacks, yes, that should be the case. I gather that didn't happen? I'll look. (I didn't look for that, and I didn't do the revdeletion. I actually didn't do anything here!) Drmies (talk) 01:30, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks to everyone involved. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:52, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry Drmies, I saw you mentioned and thought you had done that admin'ing. Twas Ohnoitsjamie. DMacks (talk) 03:29, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- Whoever cleanned up the revdel of the vandal's username, thank you. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:22, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- DMacks, yes, that should be the case. I gather that didn't happen? I'll look. (I didn't look for that, and I didn't do the revdeletion. I actually didn't do anything here!) Drmies (talk) 01:30, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Drmies: if the vandal's username had to be revdel'ed in its edits, should the next edit's edit-summaries that mention it also be revdel'ed? DMacks (talk) 01:29, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- Regarding United People's Party Liberal , partial range-blocked the IP for 2 weeks. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:22, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ohnoitsjamie, thank you. To be continued, I suspect. Given press coverage in recent months, notability probably isn't an issue. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:54, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Question for admins
New user on a disruptive tear through multiple high profile political articles...looks like they're drinking a lot of coffee. Shemakesmynosebleed (talk · contribs). Just one small sample, looks like some whitewashing of Yuri Andropov. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:22, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, the ones I looked at were troubling. User:Snooganssnoogans, you ran into them--should this be taken to a higher level? Drmies (talk) 14:46, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- I think the user is heading for a sanction. Just a question of when. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 14:59, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- I've got no evidence other than behavior, but it often indicates prior experience and multiple accounts when a new editor appears so fully armed and loaded, sweeping through high profile articles and, when confronted, taking no prisoners. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:57, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- Is the FSB--successor to the KGB--an acceptable neutral source? It's central to the Andropov edits, and perhaps others as well. I'm not aware that we accept CIA publications as reliable sources for content on American presidents. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:13, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or Melcous, have a look when you have the time. I suspect it can be cut back to pre-user Radspeed version. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Korchemny
(Hope I spelled the surname right). Anyways, the user in question has posted a message at the talk page. I have gave them a response, and maybe you could help clarifying too, knowing that you knew what you reverted. Anyways, thanks, from GeraldWL ✉ 07:19, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- Replied there, though I wouldn't spend too much more time with explanations for a new WP:COI account. I found an old article on him that had good biographical material. Problem was, he was still denying the infractions to which he pleaded guilty a few years later. That calls into question any content that derives directly from him, and underscores the importance of objective third party sourcing. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:52, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
A beer for you!
For your impressive speed against the vandals on Shrewsbury House School. I have to pay my respects to anyone who can beat me at warning a vandal, then beat me at reporting the same vandal to AIV a few seconds later. Thegreatluigi (talk) 21:43, 25 August 2020 (UTC) |
- Thegreatluigi, and with a hand tied behind my back, the Wiki equivalent for editing as an IP. Thank you very much, and thanks for helping out so well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:45, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- And thanks to Ohnoitsjamie for all the blocks. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:46, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- I reckon we've got a pretty good team here. 🙂 Anyway, I'm going to go and tag the vandal's (blank) user page for deletion. At least, as an IP, you can't possibly beat me to that. 😉 Thegreatluigi (talk) 21:55, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- And thanks to Ohnoitsjamie for all the blocks. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:46, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Don't know quite how to untangle this mess, with copyright violations that precede the recent mass of sideways--or backwards--editing. If Ohnoitsjamie or Drmies want to have a shot at it, feel free. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:46, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Where's the copyvio? Drmies (talk) 01:43, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ohnoitsjamie, maybe you can keep an eye on this too, and if there's more vandalism or promotional edits semi-protect it? If we can figure out where the copyvio is, we'll act on it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:03, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Will do, added to my watch. OhNoitsJamie Talk 02:13, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! Drmies (talk) 02:15, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, both. Your choice, but this may require either a user block or page protection. Drmies, though fragmented, there are phrases nearly identical to some of those here [24]. Problem is, it looks like the content has been on Wikipedia for years, so I can't tell which came first. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:17, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, I don't think it's worth our time to figure that out. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:09, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, both. Your choice, but this may require either a user block or page protection. Drmies, though fragmented, there are phrases nearly identical to some of those here [24]. Problem is, it looks like the content has been on Wikipedia for years, so I can't tell which came first. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:17, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! Drmies (talk) 02:15, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Will do, added to my watch. OhNoitsJamie Talk 02:13, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Fedor Atkine
So you just sent me a message saying you removed an edit I made to French actor Fedor Atkine for not citing sources. Actually, what I did was take the information from the French wikipedia page (which nobody has a problem with), translated it, and added it to the English page. This is actually following the direction at the top of Atkine's page which suggests moving info from French page to the English page. I did cite one source from the French page which was footnote 1 before you removed it. The rest is standard information that is found from the Filmography listed at the bottom of the page. I also added a better introductory description of the actor which doesn't require citations either because it's synthesizing what is already in the bio and filmography. I don't see how it helps an online encyclopedia to remove information that is either cited or linked at the bottom of the page. I'm sorry if you can't read French but most of the sources are in French for this guy so I'm not sure what else to do here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:246:5980:8FC0:4DC1:89DF:5D9B:44D1 (talk) 05:53, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- It seems the best solution, and an easy way to avoid misunderstanding, would be to briefly explain your intent in the edit summary before you publish changes. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:03, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
UPPL
I believe that i have cited from the correct sources as the wiki pages are referred from the information present in official page and the news articles present on internet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thwrsi Bhai (talk • contribs) 19:41, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- If you're talking about this edit, I believe you need to re-read our WP:NPOV policy if you think "a new dawn of permanent peace and path of sustainable development with justice, dignity and equal opportunity emerged" is a neutral statement. OhNoitsJamie Talk 19:54, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- My previous warning stands, Thwrsi Bhai. Any further promotional edits and I'll ask that you or any associated accounts be blocked indefinitely. Ohnoitsjamie, it looks like the last edit removed the protection template. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:21, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
This needs more eyes, if you have a few minutes, Ohnoitsjamie or Drmies. I've removed some content copied from the museum's website, though there may be more. It doesn't take much of a Google search to ascertain the editor's conflict of interest--I'm trying to be discrete and not out the contributor. At any rate, this could use more attention, not only for copyright issues but promotional content. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:56, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- I did a few cursory text searches, didn't find any obvious copyvios; have they already been cleaned up? Added to my watchlist.OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:08, 27 August 2020 (UTC)c
- Thanks, Ohnoitsjamie. I suppose I got most of it. Feel free to rev/delete, or not. Violent storms rolling through here now, so I expect the usual disconnect, and will return as another novel 2601:188. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:36, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Yep, a tree fell on a power line this morning
And all I got was this lousy new IP. 2601:188:180:B8E0:51C4:A213:DDE6:49FA (talk) 19:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- This reminds me of my childhood, when my brother liked to watch an animated TV program, George of the Jungle. The catchy theme song lyrics featured several repetitions of "watch out for that tree!" Nowadays, it would be "watch out for that tree, I have a new IP!!!" Or, "Don't kill my IP".... Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 07:00, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
49FA
One last comment at 49FA, per conversation. Thanks so much! Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 21:53, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- Tribe of Tiger, they never give up [25]. I've requested a user block. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:51, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- I had a look at the last version, before you reverted. The "Weinstein" reference had been removed, but still the promotional problems, that you kindly explained to me, remained. The promotional problems could be cleaned up/out...but to my way of thinking, the major problem is the lack of sources. (I have a better understanding of sourcing/refs, than promotional text.) Three of the 14 refs were to IMDb, not good. This sort of persistence, in the face of WP resistance, is decidedly unwise. It is a pleasure to hear from you again! Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 06:48, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Daniel Algrant
I'm so sorry, you were right. Totally my fault. ☶☲SouthernKangaroo☶☲ (☎) 23:18, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- That's okay. But man, it's getting harder to weed this promotional crap out all over the site. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:18, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Another incarnation
All it takes is an overnight family visitor with a traveling laptop, and I'm knocked offline. 2601:188:180:B8E0:C1AF:F86E:CDE9:F069 (talk) 03:18, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
Lede of Emily Dickinson
Melcous or Drmies, consider me astonished--a featured article that summarizes her personal life in the lede, but doesn't sufficiently indicate her significance. My take is that it can use at least one paragraph, maybe two, covering her literary accomplishment and impact. Hope you're enjoying the holiday weekend, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:31, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- I mention this because either of you will do a good job adding relevant content, and are less likely to encounter pushback than would I. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:40, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- You added some--thanks. I was bothered by the lede as well (I read the article last week, when I watched the Molly Shannon movie), and I noticed that too, but I was more bothered by the inclusion of the 1998 NYT article in the lede, as if were were doing EXTRA EXTRA. I wonder if that was in the version that got promoted to FA. Drmies (talk) 00:57, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, Drmies, we could lose some of the personal dish and gain more about her work. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:53, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for bringing this problem to light and for working to resolve it. @Drmies:, Emily Dickinson should be the poet laureate of WP.
- You added some--thanks. I was bothered by the lede as well (I read the article last week, when I watched the Molly Shannon movie), and I noticed that too, but I was more bothered by the inclusion of the 1998 NYT article in the lede, as if were were doing EXTRA EXTRA. I wonder if that was in the version that got promoted to FA. Drmies (talk) 00:57, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
I'm Nobody, who are you?
Are you Nobody too?
Then there's a pair of us!
Don't tell! They'd advertise, you know!
- My thanks to CD63, for reminding me of her wonderful poems. Even today, her work resonates..."How dreary to be Somebody, How public, like a frog! To tell one's name the livelong June, to an admiring bog." Western social media culture? Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 07:47, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- User:Tribe of Tiger, that is the link I make when I teach that poem, or talk about it with my kids. Drmies (talk) 13:04, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- My thanks to CD63, for reminding me of her wonderful poems. Even today, her work resonates..."How dreary to be Somebody, How public, like a frog! To tell one's name the livelong June, to an admiring bog." Western social media culture? Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 07:47, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Question for talk page stalkers: does content about a sexual assault lawsuit merit inclusion? I doubt it, but it's the subject of long term dispute. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- I agree with Deepfriedokra's removal; in addition to WP:BLP, one could also cite WP:WEIGHT and maybe WP:NOTNEWS. Unless the event is significant enough to receive national coverage, I don't think Wikipedia should include a mention of lawsuits against schools and other institutions. OhNoitsJamie Talk 13:20, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, Ohnoitsjamie. I hesitated to remove the content because my involvement may have been misinterpreted as whitewashing by an anonymous user. Better to have an administrator assist. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:25, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Meh, I was too lazy to include WP:WEIGHT and WP:NOTNEWS --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Not news would have been my first rationale, with BLP and undue close behind. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:53, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Meh, I was too lazy to include WP:WEIGHT and WP:NOTNEWS --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, Ohnoitsjamie. I hesitated to remove the content because my involvement may have been misinterpreted as whitewashing by an anonymous user. Better to have an administrator assist. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:25, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi Ohnoitsjamie, per your comment at AIV [26], it's not a content dispute, but a WP:SPA who, by their own admission, is representing the subject in a promotional way. I unpacked what was unacceptable at length in a teahouse thread. Rather than acknowledge the problem, they did this [27], and returned to the article. If AIV isn't the place, and they restore puff content again, I'll try my hand at ANI. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:02, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, OK; I would've taken a closer look had I noticed it was your report. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:05, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Much appreciated, Ohnoitsjamie, and thank you for the note you left the COI account. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:56, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Ohnoitsjamie, what's the next move? So long as the account isn't blocked and the page isn't locked, this is a lather, rinse repeat cycle. I'll open a thread at ANI later. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:54, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Much appreciated, Ohnoitsjamie, and thank you for the note you left the COI account. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:56, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Forgive Me
I am sorry, I hope you forgive me. I willn't copy @ paste anything ever again; and to show this, I have gotten rid of the C @ P text and overwritten it with my own-word text. Thank you
TechnoBladeSPX (talk) 19:01, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- What's going on with these Pokemon edits? I'm on the verge of opening a thread at ANI. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:04, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
? What is that supposed to mean?
TechnoBladeSPX (talk) 19:07, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
I've edit-conflicted with you quite a few times, or have arrived late at the scene with you having reverted the vandalism. I just would like to thank and appreciate you for your big role in defending Wikipedia from vandals. Thank you for your help! JavaHurricane 03:21, 15 September 2020 (UTC) |
- JavaHurricane, I appreciate it. The sentiment is mutual. Very best, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:23, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Ryan Phillippe
On my watchlist. OhNoitsJamie Talk 04:45, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Ohnoitsjamie. I saw that Drmies recently bestowed temporary protection, and remember this crap going on years ago. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:52, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- It's a never ending issue with this article and it can never seem to get any more protection than pending edit protection, no matter how often it happens.NJZombie (talk) 15:08, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Regarding a Revert
I have accidentally reverted one of your edits, it was a mis-judgement. Thanks for your works. --☆★Mamushir (✉✉) 19:22, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Quite alright. The intent of such accounts is to cause disruption. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:32, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Sorry about that
Regarding this? Like I stated here. Look at the timing. We edited at the same time, but you beat me to the revert. Our edits clashed. I was going to revert myself. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 02:03, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
- It happens. Still, one of the advantages I enjoy in not using rollback tools is that I usually must confirm the edit before dishing out the warning. No harm. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:05, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
- I was just poking around looking for something I read here to make a comment, when I noticed this interaction. I just thought you might like know that our colleague Flyer22 Frozen has gone to the 'Great Wiki In The Sky'. Regards, 220 of ßorg 07:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. She was far too young. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:48, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Ohnoitsjamie and Drmies, this bio could use more eyes, otherwise I'll request page protection. There's warring going on over spin, and I'd appreciate some attention to insure neutrality. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Me, again
New temporary account. 2601:188:180:B8E0:2078:A48C:9256:C563 (talk) 03:41, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie, Some help with the multiple disruptive accounts will be appreciated. My report at AIV was removed; frankly, I find that noticeboard so poorly overseen lately, it's more effective to post here. thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:2078:A48C:9256:C563 (talk) 14:25, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- Fuzheado, I'm perplexed as to why you removed my report and left two reports by the disruptive IP, without taking action. 2601:188:180:B8E0:2078:A48C:9256:C563 (talk) 14:28, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- Making big money suppressing information about tiny settlements in Canada. I won't be editing for the next few hours, I'll be at the Bentley dealer. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:17, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- I think that's where Kelapstick used to raise bison, before he got into the capybara business. Drmies (talk) 16:39, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- Much appreciated. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:2078:A48C:9256:C563 (talk) 17:18, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- Ohnoitsjamie, as long as you're at the dealership, pick up an extra one for me. Drmies, clearly the only capybara farm in North America. 2601:188:180:B8E0:2078:A48C:9256:C563 (talk) 17:23, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- I think that's where Kelapstick used to raise bison, before he got into the capybara business. Drmies (talk) 16:39, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- Making big money suppressing information about tiny settlements in Canada. I won't be editing for the next few hours, I'll be at the Bentley dealer. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:17, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
One of those where I don't know where to start. Promotional brochure content goes back at least a decade. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:53, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Me again, for some reason
Though I'm suspicious it's got something to do with the political opinions I post to social media. 2601:188:180:B8E0:D0BA:8243:1C8D:D9A0 (talk) 02:22, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
My Bad!
Sorry for reverting you on Jim Broadbent, I though you had added the text instead of removed it for some reason. I deserve a whacking with a wet trout for that mistake! ElongatedMusketeer (talk) 23:14, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
- Nah, that's painful stuff. A dry herring will do fine. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:15, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
There's been a lot of COI here, but could someone check to see whether the content here was indeed copied from the school website? Ohnoitsjamie or Diannaa, thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:06, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
- Yes I did find some copying. Thanks,— Diannaa (talk) 11:22, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Diannaa. There may be more, as at [29]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:4C1C:FC42:57CD:B2AF (talk) 13:51, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
More admin eyes, please
On Tom kearsey (talk · contribs)'s agenda. I'm close to an ANI report regarding edits on behalf of Abbie Conant across the platform and addition of non notable musicians to several articles. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65FA:133E:9CFB:A746 (talk) 17:26, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
- Example, one of many: [30]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65FA:133E:9CFB:A746 (talk) 17:27, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
- Ohnoitsjamie or Drmies, please have a look. A lot of content reliant on court documents. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65FA:133E:9CFB:A746 (talk) 17:31, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Cleanup in aisle five, please
We need some rev/deletion of copyright violations at Northwestern University School of Education and Social Policy. Thank you, mysterious admin. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:52, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
- Your section header is hilarious. Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 02:58, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
I say if you were in a group of IP users, you would be an administrator. You have also almost never stopped contributing. Cupper52 (talk) 12:30, 4 October 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you very much, Cupper52. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:03, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Please block a promotional account
Edit history by KT0509 (talk · contribs) indicates a promotional only intent. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:40, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Sorry - not trying to be promotional. Is there specific language I used on any of my edits? I'll remove it and won't use language like that in the future. KT0509 (talk) 13:08, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion
Hello, 2601,
Please do not tag user sandboxes for speedy deletion. Editors are allowed to work on articles in their sandbox and improve them with better references. Don't be hasty tagging them if it's clear an editor is working on a potential article. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 22:11, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Liz, it's a promotional draft written by a WP:COI account. But let them dig away. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
October 2020
Hello, I'm JPxG. I noticed that you recently removed content from Cabbage Key without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. jp×g 22:11, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.
- JPxG, I explained the rationale for deletion: the sources are poor (trip advisor and a resort website), the content speculative (no indication that Buffett wrote the song about that restaurant), and much of it was a promotion for a non notable business. I'm going to remove the content in question again, and welcome further discussion at the article talk page that supports reasons for including it. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:24, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- This is part of a problematic history of promotional/news trivia edits by JclarkeFLA (talk · contribs). 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:30, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
A Barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
Thank you for your help to keep Wikipedia free of vandalism! 73.90.205.59 (talk) 00:13, 14 October 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you very much. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:15, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
Drmies or Melcous, any thoughts? I think a lot of this COI promo piece can be cut. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:53, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- No, I didn't have many thoughts, except that it's time for action. BTW the lyrics on FullLyrics are terrible and wrong. Drmies (talk) 17:00, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- Terrific. Thanks, Drmies, especially for the edit summary [31]. There are a few places here that serve decent rolls into the cold months, and we just had some last week. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:59, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Special Barnstar | |
You are a very special IP. I really want you to create an account now and this is the second time I am giving you a barnstar. Cupper52 (talk) 12:38, 17 October 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you for the barnstar. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:14, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Garo people, a mess
Ohnoitsjamie, Drmies or JJMC89, I can remove the non notables, but it looks like there may be a lot of copyright violation added by multiple accounts recently. Would someone run a check on this? Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:13, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for helping, Ohnoitsjamie. You'll see that blocking the one account was not enough. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:37, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
New user, lots of unsourced content
Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie, please have a look at edits by MADA245 (talk · contribs). I'm thinking possible copyright violations, but can't substantiate that. A lot of historical content without a source. No hurry. Thanks and have a good weekend, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:43, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
I’d revert, but earlier versions are even worse. I’m on my phone and can’t do much more right now, sorry. Drmies (talk) 15:27, 25 October 2020 (UTC) Drmies (talk) 15:27, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- I always find it a little discouraging when large dumps of unsourced content constitute an improvement. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:35, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Would appreciate more eyes on this, and thoughts from uninvolved parties. Long term efforts to remove well sourced content, claiming irrelevance and undue weight. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:09, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the user warning, Ohnoitsjamie. I'm on the fence about the content; it may well be WP:NOTNEWS, and I can't find any more recent coverage that indicates a trial or settlement. On the other hand, I have a problem with WP:SPAs going back to last year removing coverage by the SF papers and NY Times of a racist atmosphere [32]. More feedback will be helpful. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:27, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, same; I lean toward WP:NOTNEWS for most "controversey" sections, but the coverage for that incident is more than typical, as are the severity of the claims. OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:12, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie, would you help with this? It's been owned by a COI user for months, who's persistently added his name and an ocean of unsourced trivia, first as an IP and now as a registered account. My next stop is ANI, because there's no indication that they're willing to relinquish control of the article. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:45, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- ANI report here [33]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:00, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- I hope someone will promote my final resting place in the same manner. Drmies (talk) 23:38, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- You and me both. Thank you Drmies and Ohnoitsjamie. I'd keep an eye on the IP farm, too. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:16, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
- Drmies and Ohnoitsjamie, as I said, please keep an eye on the IP nest. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:40, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm there were just two little eggs in it. I upped the block to indefinite and left the editor a note. Thanks, and all the best to you and yours. Would you believe that my boy and I jumped in the pool yesterday? Drmies (talk) 01:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- I think I found four, per my ANI report, but it's possible a couple are inactive. Would you believe it snowed here today, and it's below freezing now? Also, Mrs. 99 and I are grandparents now. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:59, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Congratulations! That's very exciting. I'm very pleased for you. Drmies (talk) 02:33, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- I think I found four, per my ANI report, but it's possible a couple are inactive. Would you believe it snowed here today, and it's below freezing now? Also, Mrs. 99 and I are grandparents now. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:59, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm there were just two little eggs in it. I upped the block to indefinite and left the editor a note. Thanks, and all the best to you and yours. Would you believe that my boy and I jumped in the pool yesterday? Drmies (talk) 01:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Drmies and Ohnoitsjamie, as I said, please keep an eye on the IP nest. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:40, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- You and me both. Thank you Drmies and Ohnoitsjamie. I'd keep an eye on the IP farm, too. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:16, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
- I hope someone will promote my final resting place in the same manner. Drmies (talk) 23:38, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Drmies, while I have your attention, we need a user block and rev/deletion for unsourced defamatory content. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:31, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
Is there any reason this account should not be blocked and mass reverted?
Drmies and Ohnoitsjamie, I see a long term disruptive intent, or at least "I edit because I can" from 75.136.24.15 (talk · contribs). Do we need each company identified as American in the opening sentence? Aside from that, chronic misuse of templates and just WP:CIR. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:30, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
Venting
Drmies and Ohnoitsjamie, and any other admins who regularly drive by here, I'm increasingly concerned by the lack of volunteer attention to the noticeboards--perhaps everyone is feeling overwhelmed. I've been reporting fairly egregious cases for page protection and heard nothing but crickets for the last twenty-four hours, so I've started threads at ANI in hopes of getting some response. And then there are exchanges with admins that leave me with no faith in their faculties of discernment [34], such is the inability to distinguish between edit warring and racially provocative vandalism. This is a long way to go before saying thank you for being so helpful. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:27, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- I left a note for Nick, whom I know as a solid administrator--but yes, I agree with you. I don't know about the noticeboard; I only visit them if I see an edit to those boards come by. RFPP is a bit tedious, and I'm sure that that laziness of mine is shared by others. BTW I do always follow your pings, even if you don't see it and it was just to check if someone else had looked at it. I do appreciate your efforts, particularly in countering these racist jerks who come by here and think they can mess stuff up. Drmies (talk) 22:10, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. My exasperation is in a minor key, not a swan song--I take leave for days, then return to kill some time. Nobody is lazier than I am. And I'm aware and appreciative of your diligence and assistance. There's a sort of informal heirarchy to the offenses, which places defamation and racism at the worst end of the spectrum. I've no patience for it, and realized long ago that you act with special swiftness in such matters. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:05, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- No, thank you. I did drop by RFPP for a while, and took care of a few reports. It's just so much more work, haha--need to check the history, compare with other articles if need be, compile IPs for a range block if that's opportune, write a short note if the answer is no, check for revdeletions... I'm always miffed if someone takes administrative action but does not, for instance, revdelete BLP violations or racist stuff. But feel free to continue to ping me for those things. Take care, Drmies (talk) 01:31, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- I tend to do less editing on weekends, especially when the weather is decent (which is most weekends on SoCal). I'll take a shot at clearing out some of the reports on AIV, though half of the time I have no idea what's going on with the cartoon/tv show/wrestling-related reports. OhNoitsJamie Talk 01:53, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, those are Greek to me, Ohnoitsjamie. My theory is that there are fifteen guys--because no woman would waste her time doing this--who are responsible for the perennial vandalism on those genres. Ages 12 to 55, with an army of sockpuppets. More depressingly, it's the province of tens of thousands of boy-men who enjoy disruption. Especially the animated cartoon crap. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:17, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Ohnoitsjamie, for me, my bane is any number changes in a sportsball™ related article. Someone's goal count thingy went from two to twenty? Pfft, probably fine. (Although meanwhile, I'll happily spend 15 minutes fact checking a date or number change in any other article...) Perryprog (talk) 03:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- I tend to do less editing on weekends, especially when the weather is decent (which is most weekends on SoCal). I'll take a shot at clearing out some of the reports on AIV, though half of the time I have no idea what's going on with the cartoon/tv show/wrestling-related reports. OhNoitsJamie Talk 01:53, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- No, thank you. I did drop by RFPP for a while, and took care of a few reports. It's just so much more work, haha--need to check the history, compare with other articles if need be, compile IPs for a range block if that's opportune, write a short note if the answer is no, check for revdeletions... I'm always miffed if someone takes administrative action but does not, for instance, revdelete BLP violations or racist stuff. But feel free to continue to ping me for those things. Take care, Drmies (talk) 01:31, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. My exasperation is in a minor key, not a swan song--I take leave for days, then return to kill some time. Nobody is lazier than I am. And I'm aware and appreciative of your diligence and assistance. There's a sort of informal heirarchy to the offenses, which places defamation and racism at the worst end of the spectrum. I've no patience for it, and realized long ago that you act with special swiftness in such matters. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:05, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Diannaa, same user as in your previous rev/deletion for copyright issues. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Handled — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:41, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, JJMC89. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:17, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
More eyes on this, please. Wholesale deletions that don't look constructive. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:51, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Some help, please. Persistent restoration of news stories containing criminal allegations. I've explained why they don't belong, but you know. Wikipedia as cesspool for this crap. Blocks? Page protection? Drmies? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:20, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie and GoatLordServant. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
Thank you for your many edits to keep Wikipedia clean. BJackJS talk 21:07, 4 November 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you, BJackJS. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:13, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or JJMC89, It looks like a WP:COI is using multiple accounts, including a bunch of IPs, here and at associated articles, as in Bishop's University. I'm thinking page protection and possibly blocks, though I don't know if we're there yet. But we will be soon. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:38, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- And copyvio. I've take some of it out but there may be more. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:19, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- JJMC89, thank you very much. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:54, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
I am working to fix the copyrights issue relates to the Governor General's Website. Yet, it is the only reliable source online so I am still going to base on it for now. --210.71.198.23 (talk) 14:49, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
- Are you the same editor, or associated with Fwfwefefwefefewfe (talk · contribs)? Whether or not you're connected, the same WP:COI notice applies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:51, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
We are not the same person but connected. I am very willing to improve the quality of the article but can you please give me a few guidelines of what you think needs to be improved? Cuz I am kinda new to wiki and not extremely familiar with the rules. But I do think that I listed some very reliable citations in APA style to the contents I write as I did a lot of research on the school history, including reading the published works about both BCS and KHC history, the radio records,the major newspapers in Canada, and the UK, and in Asia, etc. I do admit that cuz I was a member of the school so my intuition may cause some worries about the neutrality of the school. I am not a first language English speaker so it might make my edits kind of off the scale to be puffed. Sorry again.--210.71.198.23 (talk) 00:43, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
The reason why I kept using different IP is that their are blocks for wiki in the country that I am living in. I had to use VPN even for accessing wiki-- PS: If you can, instead of directly take of content, can you paraphrase of a little bit? I am kind of too lost when you suddenly delete too much content. I do have the permission of the school to edit parts of this wiki page210.71.198.23 (talk) 08:12, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- No one needs permission from the school to edit the page; see WP:OWN. As noted earlier in the thread, the issues appear to be WP:COPYRIGHT (copying-pasting content from other sources) and verifiability (all content must have citations from reliable sources and neutrality (Wikipedia is not a PR platform). OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:17, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- We can add Townshipper95 (talk · contribs) to the list of promotional accounts editing on behalf of the school. Ohnoitsjamie, this is getting close to page protection and/or meat/sockpuppet check. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:50, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- I'll ping JJMC89 as well, since you've been helpful at the BCS article of late. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:58, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- I've blocked that one for promo. I'll try to keep an eye out. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:19, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- JJMC89, thank you. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:05, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- I've blocked that one for promo. I'll try to keep an eye out. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:19, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
Hey there! Just now noticed your tireless edits to keep Wikipedia vandal-free, and thought you deserved this! Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:18, 6 November 2020 (UTC) |
Justarandomamerican (talk · contribs), thank you very much. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:31, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
It is pretty clear that the section in that article was not copied from CNA but CNA copied it from Wikipedia. It was on Wikipedia 4 months before CNA picked it up. However, Matthew Josef is a serial copyright infringer, and so I don't trust anything he contributes. So it was copied from somewhere else. We don't know where. But always use the Wayback Machine when checking for copyvios. Elizium23 (talk) 05:50, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Elizium23. I'm asking an admin--Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie, or Diannaa--to have a look at Matthew Josef (talk · contribs)'s continued promotional and copyright issues at some point in the next few days. I can hardly tear myself away from the tv. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:56, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- I can hardly tear myself away from this. A Filippo Argenti! Drmies (talk) 16:33, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- I see you, but where was it introduced? Drmies (talk) 16:34, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- Don't know--see Elizium23 above. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:50, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
If you're still at keyboard, Drmies, I've requested protection and the death predictions/threats should probably be rev/deleted. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:45, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. Your discretion as to whether rev/deletion is merited. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:49, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Of a less vital matter is Christian van Nieuwerburgh, a promotional piece that can use some de-puffing. And is the most recent account a username violation? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:04, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Apologies
I hadn't read it fully. apologies for reverting you. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 20:44, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. If you'd like to help, request an admin rev/delete the defamatory crap. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:46, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't realize you're an administrator, Dreamy Jazz. Glad I bit my tongue. Thank you very much. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
Placeholder
A reminder to ask that new account Meatythighs4bigguys123 (talk · contribs) be blocked. They haven't done anything yet, but my bet is that they will. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:14, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Books
I clicked to revert the vandalism to the page Wikipedia:Books a fraction of a second after you did. I saw it flash on the screen as the page closed. It was that close. I went to the page to undo it but you had already gotten there. I checked here and saw no warning message was delivered. If it had been, I would have immediately struck it. However, I did know what I was doing and did see the problem immediately. On rare occasions, I have seen near simultaneous edits result in such mistakes and that is what happened here. I have been on both ends of them, actually. Nonetheless, sorry for the mistake. Donner60 (talk) 06:13, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- I figured as much after writing my edit summary. There's much to be said for going slower and not using rollback, but aside from myself, the Amish and a few Carmelite nuns, who eschews technology? Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 06:17, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- Well said. Donner60 (talk) 06:23, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Well, this is a fine kettle. I walked into this bio at the beginning of the trouble, when it looked like someone was whitewashing content. After a second look, I thought the controversy re: 'alleged' underworld links looked like a WP:BLP issue, so I brought it to that board. Crickets, as often happens if you don't bring something blatant enough. Subsequently, attempts to fluff the article have been ongoing and reverted, but I still find the alleged business troubling, given the stories are from 2005 and there hasn't been any further resolution. Removing it now will get six editors jumping on me. Please have a look and let me know what you think, Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or JJMC89. If nothing else, it may need to be locked for a bit, or a sock puppet nest could be identified and eradicated. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:54, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. What a mess. I reverted to the least hypothetically problematic version, and protected it fully. I hope this gets cleared up. Drmies (talk) 01:05, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:30, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Long time alternate account
Once every few months this IP is temporarily resurrected. So here I am until I return to 2601. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 17:57, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Power shut down
So a new avatar. 2601:188:180:B8E0:202F:67D9:4B39:6338 (talk) 23:18, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Paid contributor, promotional bias and most of all, lots of copyright violations
Giakuan (talk · contribs) appears to take a sentence here and a sentence there from multiple sources, a lot of which looks to have been copied. Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or JJMC98, perhaps one of you could do a copyright check on the most recently edited bios. I suspect they can be reverted en masse, and if I did so it would be a harder sell. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:202F:67D9:4B39:6338 (talk) 03:39, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Specifically, Jerry Lorenzo--where I've already been reverted
oncetwice--and Telfar Clemens. 2601:188:180:B8E0:202F:67D9:4B39:6338 (talk) 03:50, 12 November 2020 (UTC)- What an awful pain in the ass. All the bullshit about IPs having equal cred is, well, bullshit. ANI is thataway [35]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:202F:67D9:4B39:6338 (talk) 04:26, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
Help
Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or any competent administrator, I give up--[36]. There's no report I make that doesn't turn into an unmitigated clusterfuck. Best wishes and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:40, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm Ohnoitsjamie, there's us and there's the competent ones. I feel like going on strike--that should improve the project! Drmies (talk) 14:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- I sympathize; it's painful when you discover something like that and wish you could've nipped it in the bud earlier. Note that I'm out-of-town this week, so I won't be on too much; don't think I'm deliberately ignoring you if I'm slow to respond to something. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Drmies, I like where you went with that. Thanks for responding, Ohnoitsjamie. I was too quick in thinking that Oshwah had reflexively restored all the unsourced content, when he really took pains to weed through multiple articles and help out. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:42, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- I just read a great story. Drmies (talk) 16:43, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- It is, Drmies. Thanks for sharing. This morning I enjoyed lighter fare, courtesy Mrs. 99, who offered up a few poems about beloved dogs by Mary Oliver. By the way, let us mourn the resignation of yet another single-purpose promotional account who couldn't get their way [37]. Don't let the door hit you, etc. I still think the synopsis they kept adding was plagiarized. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:36, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- I just read a great story. Drmies (talk) 16:43, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Drmies, I like where you went with that. Thanks for responding, Ohnoitsjamie. I was too quick in thinking that Oshwah had reflexively restored all the unsourced content, when he really took pains to weed through multiple articles and help out. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:42, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- I sympathize; it's painful when you discover something like that and wish you could've nipped it in the bud earlier. Note that I'm out-of-town this week, so I won't be on too much; don't think I'm deliberately ignoring you if I'm slow to respond to something. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Request rev/deletion
It's schoolboy crap, but it is defamatory; see edits by 2A00:23C7:5F84:4301:8032:F21F:BE0F:F115 (talk · contribs). Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:13, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Done OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:38, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:07, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
How does this not get blocked?
Ohnoitsjamie and Drmies, I reported 174.250.212.69 (talk · contribs) while they were editing. The report was ignored for the requisite hours before being deleted. At this point, there's hardly a reason to issue a block. But how was this not aggressive disruption, not to mention persistent vandalism? The cherry on top [38]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:56, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, I can't tell time and I missed the bit where you said "hardly a reason...". Sorry for your troubles... Drmies (talk) 23:15, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hardly a reason, Drmies, in that I anticipated the rationale that a block now would be punitive rather than preventive. Regardless, thank you and cheers. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- While I'm at it, can you protect BLM and rev/delete as much as possible? I'm tired of the endless racist trolling. Thank you, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:31, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yes sir. JzG took care of the protection; I revdeleted a bunch. Little white boys, of the pathetic kind. Thank you for alerting me. In other news, THE HEATER IS REPAIRED! You might not have thought that it mattered in Alabama, but it does. Take care of you and yours, Drmies (talk) 01:53, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. Now I see that you protected it earlier this year. There is no end to that crap, which I find discouraging as a reflection of our culture. Glad you've got heat again.....having grown up way south, I know that folks put on six layers when it dips below 70. You take care, too. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:54, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yes sir. JzG took care of the protection; I revdeleted a bunch. Little white boys, of the pathetic kind. Thank you for alerting me. In other news, THE HEATER IS REPAIRED! You might not have thought that it mattered in Alabama, but it does. Take care of you and yours, Drmies (talk) 01:53, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- While I'm at it, can you protect BLM and rev/delete as much as possible? I'm tired of the endless racist trolling. Thank you, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:31, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hardly a reason, Drmies, in that I anticipated the rationale that a block now would be punitive rather than preventive. Regardless, thank you and cheers. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Some extra admin eyes
On this edit history, with at least one defamatory edit summary at Foucault [39]. Thoughts welcome, Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:38, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- That's pretty ... sad. Drmies (talk) 22:33, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- Drmies, thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:59, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- They don't seem to get it, Drmies. Also, no good deed unpunished, etc [40]. My edit was apparently just another piece of 'edit warring.' Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:46, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Haha, I see that editor undid their warning. As for that other editor, Ohnoitsjamie is a very nice person at heart, or they ran into these edits right after being served a delicious piece of Sachertorte. Drmies (talk) 22:28, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, that Jamie person needs to be watched. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:54, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Haha, I see that editor undid their warning. As for that other editor, Ohnoitsjamie is a very nice person at heart, or they ran into these edits right after being served a delicious piece of Sachertorte. Drmies (talk) 22:28, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- They don't seem to get it, Drmies. Also, no good deed unpunished, etc [40]. My edit was apparently just another piece of 'edit warring.' Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:46, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Drmies, thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:59, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Drmies, could you have a look at OHAM2020 (talk · contribs)? The COI is obvious, and in these cases I'm torn between seeing the links as constructive and spam. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:59, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Drmies, I'd appreciate some more eyes on this. And happy holiday. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:00, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Persistent addition of commentary, statistics not supported by sources, misleading and disruptive edit summaries. Asking for a user block, when Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or another admin passes by. AIV is loaded and it may require more than thirty seconds to confirm that this is a WP:NOTHERE account. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:08, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. Next up for idle hands, Muslims for Progressive Values. Admirably bloated promotional piece, the only question is how much has been copied. Happy T Day, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:00, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Mrwallace05's new user?
Hello. Is the Blink 182 and Gorillaz fan a Mrwallace05 sock? Would you take a look at at this? 115.164.62.33 (talk) 05:18, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not an administrator. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:20, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
AIV report on 12.153.8.132
I'm going to decline to take action because NOTHERE isn't a valid block reason itself for IPs and there hasn't been any further editing since the final warning. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 06:20, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Schoolboy vandalism
With some defamatory content that ought to be rev/deleted; 193.28.36.66 (talk · contribs). Asking for a block and cleanup. Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:19, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- The sheer fucking stupidity of it all. You should have seen the half dozen edits I revdeleted earlier today. Thanks, and take care, Drmies (talk) 04:03, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. Why should we expect different, in a country that glorifies mean-spirited ignorance? When hospitalized patients maintain covid is a hoax while they're being intubated. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:20, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- And while we're at it, more defamatory vandalism for rev/deletion at Neil Druckmann. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:24, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- Cleaned by Liz and blocked by Bongwarrior. Thank you both. In gratitude, a song. Drmies (talk) 16:35, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- Funny, Drmies. I immediately thought the background riff was sampled from [41]. In which case, do we have to issue a warning to Cypress Hill? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:54, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- I don't know if I have the CD upstairs, but I think it's from after the big stink about sampling--in other words, I think they probably got permission! Drmies (talk) 21:24, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- Funny, Drmies. I immediately thought the background riff was sampled from [41]. In which case, do we have to issue a warning to Cypress Hill? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:54, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- Cleaned by Liz and blocked by Bongwarrior. Thank you both. In gratitude, a song. Drmies (talk) 16:35, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- And while we're at it, more defamatory vandalism for rev/deletion at Neil Druckmann. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:24, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. Why should we expect different, in a country that glorifies mean-spirited ignorance? When hospitalized patients maintain covid is a hoax while they're being intubated. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:20, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
There may be an article in there, but it's not the plagiarized and poorly written advocacy recently created. Any thought, Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or Melcous? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:02, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- Not much I can do right now, and not on that topic, old friend. Can you find some of those editors who tackle English subject matter? The ones who write all those FAs and GAs? Sitush, you know of any? Drmies (talk) 00:00, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Quite alright, Drmies. I think I removed most of the copyright infringement, which was at least half the original article, and Ohnoitsjamie wisely prodded it as original research. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:52, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Drmies, looks like block evasion by Jake Gutteridge (talk · contribs). Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:46, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, looks like they're trying to take their ball home. Gave a final warning. OhNoitsJamie Talk 00:52, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ah,the invisible WP:OWNERSHIP title. Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:56, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Question for drop-in admins
Re: a presumably young and incompetent editor, who's moving closer to a block for disruption. May drafts be classified with projects [42]? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:39, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Regardless, they are really not doing anything constructive here. By rights my level three warning should have been a four. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:44, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Ohnoitsjamie, I think this is original research--a 'nation' with an 'ethnic group?'--but prefer other eyes rather than edit warring. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:21, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- I boldly restored the original redirect. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:37, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. I looked at that, and the mini-attack, and asked myself, WTAF? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:02, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
This could really use more eyes. An editor, using two accounts, is deleting masses of content as inaccurate. User claims to have a WP:COI, and disapproves of his published content being used as a source. Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or Melcous, your input would be valuable. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:50, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Melcous, thank you. If you think I was overzealous in my warning to the author, I'll rescind it. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:44, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- No worries, Bob, it's a bit of a mess and seems to contain a fair amount of WP:OR. I'll be interested to see if the editor replies to EdJohnston's question about what they are trying to say about their copyright. Melcous (talk) 22:51, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- That article is a bit on the fluffy side, still. Drmies (talk) 22:23, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Another temporary assignment
Desktop shut off overnight, so this is my identity for the moment. 2601:188:180:B8E0:958A:EACE:C5B4:402A (talk) 02:47, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Drmies and Ohnoitsjamie, I'm asking for extra eyes on this. Someone added an ocean of non notable hockey players, unsourced, which I went through with a tweezers. Many show blue links because they go to dab pages or unrelated biographies. For good measure, they then began removing verified notables who weren't hockey players. If this continues, perhaps sanctions will be appropriate. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:958A:EACE:C5B4:402A (talk) 04:45, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Wonderful person, terrible spam bio. Once the COI editor is blocked, this needs work. I've made a start. Melcous, Drmies, you're great at finishing. Best wishes, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:12, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Bob, yes great team work, I've done some further tidying up and apart from needing some more independent references, I think the content is ok. Cheers, Melcous (talk) 03:01, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Terrific. Thank you very much. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:17, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
Thank you for your quick revert on Pine Street School New York, and warning the user. Please keep up the good work. Ashleyyoursmile! 03:52, 18 December 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you, Ashleyyoursmile. It seems they meant well, and just removed too much. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:04, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Voluminous COI and advocacy
Drmies and Melcous, I plan on going into the Land trust, Community land trust and John Emmeus Davis, edited by Gregorylaird (talk · contribs), and removing a lot of unsourced and/or promotional content. They're riddled with original research and advocacy. My experience is that a thread at the COI noticeboard will go unnoticed, but I'd like eyes on these, and some backup in case someone misconstrues the removal of content as disruptive. As always, your thoughts appreciated. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm. OK--I plan on making lasagna with spinach and roasted zucchini, but to each their own. Drmies (talk) 23:05, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oh. I'll be right over. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:05, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oops I think I conflicted with you. Sorry. I thought I'd start at the last one. :) Drmies (talk) 23:12, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Quite alright. Please go ahead. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:14, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- By the way, Drmies, I was in the process of removing this, too [43]. Most of it appears to have been copied back in 2006 from [44]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:18, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Diannaa, can you please look at this for us? It's the seventh edit in Community land trust, from waaaay back when. I'm wondering if we shouldn't just completely nuke this article--it has plenty of problems anyway, including ESSAY, OR, POV, etc. Drmies (talk) 01:33, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm just beginning to pore over Land trust, and think it may need a copyright violation check, too. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:34, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Diannaa, can you please look at this for us? It's the seventh edit in Community land trust, from waaaay back when. I'm wondering if we shouldn't just completely nuke this article--it has plenty of problems anyway, including ESSAY, OR, POV, etc. Drmies (talk) 01:33, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- By the way, Drmies, I was in the process of removing this, too [43]. Most of it appears to have been copied back in 2006 from [44]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:18, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Quite alright. Please go ahead. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:14, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oops I think I conflicted with you. Sorry. I thought I'd start at the last one. :) Drmies (talk) 23:12, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oh. I'll be right over. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:05, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Drmies, another one whose username merits blocking, GroundedSolutionsNetworkGSN (talk · contribs). 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:47, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not seeing a lot in the way of WP:RELIABLE for John Emmeus Davis. Id having taught at MIT sufficient to establish notability? Otherwise this looks like a nice resume. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:24, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Regarding this document, it's dated 2006 and was added here in 2006, so it's unknown who had it first. It was likely written by the same person who added it here.— Diannaa (talk) 14:38, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
Long term problems and apparent block evasion
ToBeFree, Ohnoitsjamie, Yamla or Drmies (I think Drmies blocked the puppet master), is there any way that Bryson Johnson (talk · contribs) is not associated with Romello Brooks (talk · contribs)? If so, a whole lot of reversion is in order. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:59, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Why not at WP:SPI with at least some kind of evidence? :| ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:44, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- ToBeFree, I don't know why 99 pinged you, but I know why he pinged me and Yamla, and I'm looking into it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:53, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Well, that was fun. I blocked a few sleepers as well. Ponyo, you blocked their main range a two and a half months ago; I blocked the one from which many of these edits came. Some of the accounts came from Ponyo's range before that block, including a block on account creation, was placed. The sleepers weren't very active (yet), but there was also a crazy amount of IP editing. Yes, we'll have some cleanup to do. I remember very inept edits--are they still bad? Drmies (talk) 18:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry for pinging ToBeFree--sometimes I just want to bring in someone different. Mix it up. Drmies, the edits I looked at were mostly unsourced and original research. For lack of competence and relentlessness in evading blocks in order to add content about Memphis, this reminds me of the Baltimore vandal. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:28, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, I see, no worries. I've rolled back the confirmed sock's edits, so the ping was good for something. :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, ToBeFree. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:36, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'd be comfortable betting that their word is meaningless [45], and we'll see more of the same at related articles. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:38, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- I offer Memphis City Schools as exhibit A. At least a half dozen socks since the summer. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:43, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, ToBeFree. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:36, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, I see, no worries. I've rolled back the confirmed sock's edits, so the ping was good for something. :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry for pinging ToBeFree--sometimes I just want to bring in someone different. Mix it up. Drmies, the edits I looked at were mostly unsourced and original research. For lack of competence and relentlessness in evading blocks in order to add content about Memphis, this reminds me of the Baltimore vandal. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:28, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Drmies and Ohnoitsjamie, this could use more eyes. At least two COI accounts are adding promotional content, and one has added copied content multiple times, so there needs to be some rev/deletion. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:51, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- I surely don't want to leave ToBeFree out.... 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:53, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- 30 seconds. Or rather: I was already doing this :) Thanks for the ping though ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:54, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Much appreciated, ToBeFree. Probably the other account isn't block worthy yet, but a quick look at their edit history shows a promotional intent. That article, especially as it goes through AfD, needs to be watched. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:57, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
New temp IP
After losing power in the Xmas storm. 2601:188:180:B8E0:C9AC:A0C:6F13:582C (talk) 15:40, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi Drmies, perhaps some attention, to make sure this doesn't become a self-owned vanity piece. Cheers and happy holidays, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:20, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- I've attempted to deal with that one. Happy holidays to you too Bob. GirthSummit (blether) 19:12, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Girth Summit, and happy holidays to you. Would not be surprised to see a new account pop up there soon. Thank you, too, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:14, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'll try to remember to keep an eye on it. Your talk seems to be bereft of Christmassy messages and pictures - I guess nobody thinks of IP addresses when they're doing the rounds, most unfair! (Then again, at least you don't get all the distracting notifications, so...) Stay safe GirthSummit (blether) 19:16, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Girth Summit, you want to see everything an encyclopedia is designed not to be? Hacienda Riquelme Golf Resort. I really don't know where to begin. Hundreds of edits by single purpose promotional accounts. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:33, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ugh, don't do that to me. I'm going to have to go and do something about that, I can't help myself. A project for tomorrow perhaps, that's not going to be a quick one... GirthSummit (blether) 19:35, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- I hear you. I've made a modest start, and expect pushback from the public relations folks who own the article. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:36, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Looking forward to tag teaming with you... GirthSummit (blether) 19:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- It could be, Girth Summit, that the best solution is to return to the May version by GoingBatty, and then lock the damn thing. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:47, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- I can't edit it and protect it - let me work through it and get my head around it. GirthSummit (blether) 19:50, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Don't try to solve it now. Even I have to leave the keyboard sometimes. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:56, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Meh - I trimmed it. I'll drop a note on the talk page of the most recent contributor, and see what happens. GirthSummit (blether) 20:15, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Well done--thanks. If someone returns and starts adding crap back into it, I will ask for a lock or sanctions. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:16, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Meh - I trimmed it. I'll drop a note on the talk page of the most recent contributor, and see what happens. GirthSummit (blether) 20:15, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Don't try to solve it now. Even I have to leave the keyboard sometimes. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:56, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- I can't edit it and protect it - let me work through it and get my head around it. GirthSummit (blether) 19:50, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- It could be, Girth Summit, that the best solution is to return to the May version by GoingBatty, and then lock the damn thing. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:47, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Looking forward to tag teaming with you... GirthSummit (blether) 19:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- I hear you. I've made a modest start, and expect pushback from the public relations folks who own the article. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:36, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ugh, don't do that to me. I'm going to have to go and do something about that, I can't help myself. A project for tomorrow perhaps, that's not going to be a quick one... GirthSummit (blether) 19:35, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Girth Summit, you want to see everything an encyclopedia is designed not to be? Hacienda Riquelme Golf Resort. I really don't know where to begin. Hundreds of edits by single purpose promotional accounts. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:33, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'll try to remember to keep an eye on it. Your talk seems to be bereft of Christmassy messages and pictures - I guess nobody thinks of IP addresses when they're doing the rounds, most unfair! (Then again, at least you don't get all the distracting notifications, so...) Stay safe GirthSummit (blether) 19:16, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Girth Summit, and happy holidays to you. Would not be surprised to see a new account pop up there soon. Thank you, too, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:14, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Frankly, I'm not sure the thing even meets notability. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:22, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- I haven't looked into the sources properly yet - a task for another day perhaps. I don't know anything about Spain's listed building system, but if the assertion that's it's grade 2 listed is true, and their system is anything like that in the UK, then some of the buildings at least will be notable. It's possible that the article ought to be about those buildings, rather than the resort, but we'd need to mention the resort in a 'Current Usage' section of any article about the building. Shameless plug: an example of that sort of thing done properly. GirthSummit (blether) 20:27, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Excellent point, yes. And that's indeed a good example. Congratulations. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:49, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Girth Summit, I hate to view every edit with suspicion, but....a new user at Javier Ávila has me wondering. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:40, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- Excellent point, yes. And that's indeed a good example. Congratulations. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:49, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
How the heck
...did I get shifted to this old IP? Alas, here I am until the vagaries of this country internet service return me home. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 04:42, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Throwback time! –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 04:49, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Cleanup on aisle three
Drmies or ToBeFree, can you block Verifiedbyfactscheck (talk · contribs) and rev/delete the attacks? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:41, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yes. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 03:25, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:16, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- No, without you it wouldn't have been flagged, and I appreciate it very much. Drmies (talk) 18:14, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:16, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
More defamatory dross
Courtesy 103.7.77.0 (talk · contribs), who didn't like a school they attended. Maybe rev/deletion, Drmies. Happy new, etc. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:43, 30 December 2020 (UTC) Add Agha Haseebullah Khan (talk · contribs). Two articles involved. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:11, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- Gotcha. Thank you Widr. Drmies (talk) 18:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Talk page stalkers: Do we need to know that she's the last surviving cast member from a 60s sitcom? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:31, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
New standard in bizarre original research
I submit 64.203.226.83 (talk · contribs). Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie, talk amongst yourselves. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:18, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- I don't talk to other admins. They're too smart. OK that was wild. I blocked them. Even crazier is how Oklahoma is wiping the floor with Florida, and to think that they gave us a hard time. Maybe Tydude has an explanation. Drmies (talk) 04:23, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. Good lord, that's a blowout. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm, some pretty exciting theories. Swagger Daggers, Sicario, oh my. OhNoitsJamie Talk 05:30, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, outre. Ohnoitsjamie, have a look at CliveofIndia44 (talk · contribs), please. More recent unsourced commentary, after warnings. I like 'left-wing persuasion' [46]. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm, some pretty exciting theories. Swagger Daggers, Sicario, oh my. OhNoitsJamie Talk 05:30, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Question about copyright at Cadet Honor Code
Copious amounts of content copied from the West Point website. Is this government content that may be copied? I can't find anything on the website itself. Ohnoitsjamie, Diannaa? Happy New Year. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:30, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. For what it's worth, the edits from 2010 are also all copyright violations, but they're the least of that article's issues. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:25, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
For your incredibly speedy reverts at James Acaster. Keep up the good work! — Bilorv (talk) 20:32, 1 January 2021 (UTC) |
- Thank you very much, and happy new year, Bilorv. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:48, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- Cheers, you too! — Bilorv (talk) 00:31, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Actionable personal attack?
Dropping this as I did at AIV on a Friday night, January 1 is guaranteed to get nowhere. Hippiekitten88 (talk · contribs) has made a series of personal attacks at their talk page, and is wrong from start to finish. Would appreciate some thoughts; Drmies, let it slide or sanction? Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:57, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- I considered engaging further, but after this [47] realized it would be a waste. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:59, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, that was pretty stupid. User:Robvanvee may be an asshat, but he's our asshat! Drmies (talk) 03:35, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- This is what I'm saying. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:56, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- I would just like to thank both of you for your assistance with this. Drmies for officially declaring me Asshat to all Wikipedians. I'll be the best asshat any of you ever had! And a special thanks to you, oh nameless numbered one for reporting this. Robvanvee 05:04, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Rob, you can put that up on your wall if you like. Happy New Year. Drmies (talk) 05:05, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- It is my honor to recognize and defend constructive asshattery wherever it may be present. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:03, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Rob, you can put that up on your wall if you like. Happy New Year. Drmies (talk) 05:05, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- I would just like to thank both of you for your assistance with this. Drmies for officially declaring me Asshat to all Wikipedians. I'll be the best asshat any of you ever had! And a special thanks to you, oh nameless numbered one for reporting this. Robvanvee 05:04, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- This is what I'm saying. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:56, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, that was pretty stupid. User:Robvanvee may be an asshat, but he's our asshat! Drmies (talk) 03:35, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Melcous, Drmies, when you have a few minutes to burn. Another example of a notable subject cheapened by promotional editing. It reminds me of something Degas once said to Whistler: "You behave as if you have no talent." 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:27, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- And another one at Richard V. E. Lovelace, created by a WP:COI account. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:09, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Melcous and Drmies. Best wishes, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:02, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Bob, right? <waves> The editor of Richard V. E. Lovelace, partially blocked from the article by Valereee, has asked for help at Worm That Turns' talk page. I've responded, but since she vastly outranks me academically and I've already put my big foot in it editing the article, you may have some wiser advice for her. Yngvadottir (talk) 03:35, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yngvadottir, (waves back), thank you for the heads up. Your answer seems pretty comprehensive to me; I probably would have shown less equanimity, since I went through a little wrestling match with that editor over her determination to drop what amounted to vacation photos into the article. Thanks and best wishes for the new year, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:23, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- LOL yeah, the mountaineering photos, that was weird. But I hope we have a new astrophysicist editor! And me disambiguating astrophysics stuff, OMGs, terrifying, I really hope I did ok. I've thought of writing up Robert Kaske, Jr. (Drmies, HINT) but this guy is far more obviously notable. Where are all the science editors to fix up the article and tackle-hug the new expert? Yngvadottir (talk) 04:49, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know who that is, though I knew people who knew him... Drmies (talk) 15:10, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Well, well, created in Feb 2019 at Robert Kaske (I don't know where I had the Jr. from); Newspapers.com for the win; the Ithaca Times was Gannett and its archives are inaccessible, and in looking for the astrophysicist's retirement, I find even the Cornell Chronicle has become stingy in that respect. I had expected to find far more assessments in books than I did: he merged all the programs together (except Icelandic) to create Cornell Medieval Studies and was something of a force of nature, though I had much more interaction with Carol Kaske. (I am very sad to see she's also died, and I wonder whether she's reached the level of coverage for Women in Red, but my one suggestion there, {:Abby Abinanti]], wasn't picked up; I see the article was created almost two years later.) Unfortunately I no longer create articles in mainspace. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:42, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know who that is, though I knew people who knew him... Drmies (talk) 15:10, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- LOL yeah, the mountaineering photos, that was weird. But I hope we have a new astrophysicist editor! And me disambiguating astrophysics stuff, OMGs, terrifying, I really hope I did ok. I've thought of writing up Robert Kaske, Jr. (Drmies, HINT) but this guy is far more obviously notable. Where are all the science editors to fix up the article and tackle-hug the new expert? Yngvadottir (talk) 04:49, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yngvadottir, (waves back), thank you for the heads up. Your answer seems pretty comprehensive to me; I probably would have shown less equanimity, since I went through a little wrestling match with that editor over her determination to drop what amounted to vacation photos into the article. Thanks and best wishes for the new year, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:23, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Bob, right? <waves> The editor of Richard V. E. Lovelace, partially blocked from the article by Valereee, has asked for help at Worm That Turns' talk page. I've responded, but since she vastly outranks me academically and I've already put my big foot in it editing the article, you may have some wiser advice for her. Yngvadottir (talk) 03:35, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
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This seems to be the season in which academics write about their teachers and colleagues, without much regard for our guidelines. Nothing egregious, a well-written but largely unsourced appreciation that could use more eyes. Only when you have nothing more important on the docket, Drmies or Melcous. Happy new, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:06, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Looks like a little BLP business that may need to be rev/deleted. Intriguing, though....now I want to know more. Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie? Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:24, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Well, they might have email enabled... Drmies (talk) 01:22, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
A Fantasmic! collection of unsourced rot. Can be dramatically pared, with an eye on the multiple accounts constructing this out of nothing but WP:OR. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:46, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie, I got crickets when I took this to ANI--serial vandalism/unsourced, I suspect by one user at multiple accounts. Will I have any backup if I remove vast unsourced sections? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:2818:A14B:DF07:4185 (talk) 15:18, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! 2601:188:180:B8E0:2818:A14B:DF07:4185 (talk) 15:19, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, that was you? Haha! Great minds think alike... Drmies (talk) 15:22, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- I should say. Now, what the hell can we do to speed along this 25th amendment business? 2601:188:180:B8E0:2818:A14B:DF07:4185 (talk) 15:23, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not panicking. I'm just wondering how many white people noted the difference between how these "protesters" were treated and how BLM protesters were treated. From what I gather on social media, it's not been much of a learning experience for many people. Drmies (talk) 15:31, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- I've narrowed my social media feed to include primarily people capable of coherent thought, so I'm seeing--and making--voluminous reference to racial disparity. 2601:188:180:B8E0:2818:A14B:DF07:4185 (talk) 15:33, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- I follow Dutch news sites on Instagram. The amount of racist and other ignorance in the motherland is overwhelming. I just learned that people think that the COVID vaccine is administered intravenously, and that it's just water, which might cause a heart attack. Yes sir! Drmies (talk) 15:53, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- Ignorance knows no borders. But I'd imagined better from the land of Rembrandt. 2601:188:180:B8E0:2818:A14B:DF07:4185 (talk) 16:00, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- I follow Dutch news sites on Instagram. The amount of racist and other ignorance in the motherland is overwhelming. I just learned that people think that the COVID vaccine is administered intravenously, and that it's just water, which might cause a heart attack. Yes sir! Drmies (talk) 15:53, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- I've narrowed my social media feed to include primarily people capable of coherent thought, so I'm seeing--and making--voluminous reference to racial disparity. 2601:188:180:B8E0:2818:A14B:DF07:4185 (talk) 15:33, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not panicking. I'm just wondering how many white people noted the difference between how these "protesters" were treated and how BLM protesters were treated. From what I gather on social media, it's not been much of a learning experience for many people. Drmies (talk) 15:31, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- I should say. Now, what the hell can we do to speed along this 25th amendment business? 2601:188:180:B8E0:2818:A14B:DF07:4185 (talk) 15:23, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, that was you? Haha! Great minds think alike... Drmies (talk) 15:22, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! 2601:188:180:B8E0:2818:A14B:DF07:4185 (talk) 15:19, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, there you go stirring up trouble [48]. BLM compared to the attempted subversion of the electoral process, not to mention ransacking the Capitol. What could be amiss with that? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:49, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- By the way, looking at the history of University of the Potomac, is it possible these aren't all sockpuppets? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:51, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- Good trouble. That's not a bad hill (haha, Hill) to die on. Drmies (talk) 01:51, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- It's possible--CU goes back only so far. But two of them are now history. Drmies (talk) 01:54, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. And assuming I don't ping you over some other encyclopedic transgression before then, have a good weekend. I was useless for getting anything done this week. Completely glued to the news. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:58, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, your expertise may be helpful here. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:33, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- I see the Bushranger already took care of the issue, no? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:52, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yes. I really need to get you on speed dial, though. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:03, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Another poorly sourced resume, a notable person with a cringeworthy bio. Thoughts, Drmies and Melcous? Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:2818:A14B:DF07:4185 (talk) 22:10, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, sigh. The WP:SPA took the opportunity to vote four times and harass another editor here [49]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:00, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Don't worry about the votes, haha. As for that comment, I assume they were thinking of Ece Dizdar, and their question was really about assistance--whether Keivan.f could help with adding sources to the Ozan Boz article. I assume they don't read Turkish. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 05:07, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, then I misinterpreted. I thought they were going after Kievan's editing. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:10, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hi. I just started checking my notifications, so sorry for the late response. Yes, as Drmies said they asked for help but it appears there's nothing I can do, because I cannot find any articles or even short biographies about him in Turkish national newspapers. As a result, I will not be changing my vote and the article has to be redirected to the page about the band in my opinion. Keivan.fTalk 04:07, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, then I misinterpreted. I thought they were going after Kievan's editing. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:10, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Have you ever created an account
Just one question: have you created an account before? -User:Cupper52 17:15, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
- Just one answer: what possible interest could you have? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Yes, we lost WIFI again today
So I'm an IP without a country, longing to return to 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63. 2601:188:180:B8E0:FD6A:C363:55CE:A99 (talk) 04:56, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
New temporary alternate
Don't know why, but here we go again. 2601:188:180:B8E0:E889:8717:B774:3D3C (talk) 02:17, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Diannaa or Ohnoitsjamie (I have to give Drmies a break), there looks to be some copyright issues here. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:E889:8717:B774:3D3C (talk) 03:38, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- RevDel done — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:16, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, JJMC89. Looking at that account's history, there's more copyright violation, previously undetected. 2601:188:180:B8E0:E889:8717:B774:3D3C (talk) 15:03, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Ohnoitsjamie, looks like some copyright violation again. Maybe other issues as well--it's being used as a love letter to the promoter. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:03, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Drmies and Melcous, the bio of a recently deceased rock star. Persistent removal of sourced content re: alcoholism is the tip of the iceberg; most of this is unsourced and probably unencyclopedic fancruft. Your thoughts appreciated. 2601:188:180:B8E0:E889:8717:B774:3D3C (talk) 15:13, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- This is like an updated and more depressing "We Are the Road Crew". I feel for them. Drmies (talk) 15:25, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Please have a look and see what I did. I wish some of these metal fans would read WP:RS and would learn how to write properly--write for an encyclopedia, that is. I've always felt that User:Blackmetalbaz should be on payroll. Drmies (talk) 15:42, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Brilliant, Drmies. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:E889:8717:B774:3D3C (talk) 16:13, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- And on another track from earlier this week, 35.141.74.186 (talk · contribs). Notwithstanding our warnings, this just looks like a WP:CIR issue. I don't know if they merit a block yet, but the unsourced business and unnecessary edits continue. 2601:188:180:B8E0:E889:8717:B774:3D3C (talk) 16:19, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Maybe this song will give you some joy. Drmies (talk) 23:26, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, the Pogues are always a good time. And thank you for this block [50]. The sock thing was pretty obvious, in addition to the COI. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:16, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Look at this nonsense. Drmies (talk) 01:51, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Well, that's some pretty thin trivia. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:29, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Look at this nonsense. Drmies (talk) 01:51, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, the Pogues are always a good time. And thank you for this block [50]. The sock thing was pretty obvious, in addition to the COI. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:16, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Maybe this song will give you some joy. Drmies (talk) 23:26, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- And on another track from earlier this week, 35.141.74.186 (talk · contribs). Notwithstanding our warnings, this just looks like a WP:CIR issue. I don't know if they merit a block yet, but the unsourced business and unnecessary edits continue. 2601:188:180:B8E0:E889:8717:B774:3D3C (talk) 16:19, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Brilliant, Drmies. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:E889:8717:B774:3D3C (talk) 16:13, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Some falafel for you!
Thanks! jp×g 00:40, 17 January 2021 (UTC) |
You deserve a gyro for your Wikipedia work
I just ate one for dinner. If you go to Pittsburgh go to Kebab G it's the best. From a yinzer, --108.17.71.32 (talk) 01:32, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. On the weekend, I'm more of a bagel with cream cheese and lox guy. Or pancakes. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:27, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Return of Romello Brooks?
Drmies, can you suss out if 67.35.20.131 (talk · contribs) is another sock of Romello Brooks (talk · contribs)? Quacks to me. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 06:21, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm maybe, but their edits, the ones I looked at, aren't so bad. You didn't revert any of them, did you? Drmies (talk) 15:25, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yep, Drmies, which is why I didn't reflexively revert them. Maybe coincidental....2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:24, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, Melcous, any thoughts? Written by the subject and a colleague, with virtually no references. Looks notable, but oh the problems with COI. No hurry. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:13, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- That is the Dutchest name one can imagine. Drmies (talk) 21:56, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- It's a great name, Drmies. I just can't decide if he painted in 17th century Amsterdam or was a coach for the Yankees in the 1960s. 2601:188:180:B8E0:619B:1F70:BE12:C5F1 (talk) 23:39, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie, have a look when so inclined. Mostly written by the subject's public relations team. 2601:188:180:B8E0:619B:1F70:BE12:C5F1 (talk) 17:21, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- And I doubt we need six photos. 2601:188:180:B8E0:619B:1F70:BE12:C5F1 (talk) 17:23, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
I just knew...
...this was you, without even seeing the actual numbers in the IP address. Drmies (talk) 22:49, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, Drmies, that was a terrible editor, unsourced stuff spread across multiple articles. How did you come across that today? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:11, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- Eh, let's see. A longterm soccer editor, formerly known as VASCO!, was complaining about some IP editor, who did their unsourced thing in soccer biographies, which led me to Arsenal F.C. supporters where I made these edits in order to cull some of the tripe, which led me to Chadwell Heath where I did some cleanup--and some of the stuff I cleaned was added by that editor, whom you warned in 2015--exactly the kind of warning for exactly the kind of material that you are famous for. ;-) BTW that Arsenal article was a bit shocking and suggests there's dozens more. Good thing that doesn't exist for AFC Ajax. Drmies (talk) 00:34, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, man, those edits go back ten years. Good for you....I may have to post your barnstar here, since I can't edit your talk page, which might be a Wiki first. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:29, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Eh, let's see. A longterm soccer editor, formerly known as VASCO!, was complaining about some IP editor, who did their unsourced thing in soccer biographies, which led me to Arsenal F.C. supporters where I made these edits in order to cull some of the tripe, which led me to Chadwell Heath where I did some cleanup--and some of the stuff I cleaned was added by that editor, whom you warned in 2015--exactly the kind of warning for exactly the kind of material that you are famous for. ;-) BTW that Arsenal article was a bit shocking and suggests there's dozens more. Good thing that doesn't exist for AFC Ajax. Drmies (talk) 00:34, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or JJMC89, edit warring, history of advocacy here. If none of you get around to this by tomorrow I'll open a thread at a noticeboard. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:51, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- I blocked one account indefinitely; the other can count himself lucky that Jamie probably just had a delicious pastry or won the lottery. Drmies (talk) 15:31, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- No pastries or financial windfalls, just a delicious cup of Honduran light roast. The account I blocked for 60 hours had a history going back a little ways, so I gave them a little benefit of the doubt. Obviously if their case of WP:IDHT hasn't cleared up in the next 60 hours, a prescription of "indefinite" could be filled. OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:13, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm probably better than the office swill I'm drinking. I'm pissed: I just found out that my Wikipedia class was cancelled/moved, and I'm getting a new class, possibly with new students, but some in the old class already started on Wikipedia and may not be able to move to the new class. Plus, I need all of them to start by registering, and the new class starts tomorrow instead of Thursday, so the logistics suck: if students sign up during class we run the risk of an automatic IP block. Ugh, just realized I have to change all my office hours too, and now I have two classes back-to-back, which sucks for old people. I need a pastry. Drmies (talk) 16:24, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie, thank you. I kind of thought this flurry of editing was connected to a push for a last minute presidential pardon, and the latest revision in the lede seems to add weight to that. Sorry about the curriculum change, Drmies--that really is a pain. I'd suggest drinking something other than coffee. And sorry for the IP change. For some reason, the WIFI connection is cutting out about every other day here. Must be squirrels gnawing on a wire. 2601:188:180:B8E0:AD7A:6DBF:B28:D89C (talk) 16:50, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Ohnoitsjamie and Drmies, based on the account name change from Hi Mcaser131, there's an appearance that EfratShalom (talk · contribs) is the same as blocked account Mcaserta31 (talk · contribs). 2601:188:180:B8E0:AD7A:6DBF:B28:D89C (talk) 17:21, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Confirmed and indef-blocked. Drmies (talk) 17:23, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Ohnoitsjamie and Drmies, based on the account name change from Hi Mcaser131, there's an appearance that EfratShalom (talk · contribs) is the same as blocked account Mcaserta31 (talk · contribs). 2601:188:180:B8E0:AD7A:6DBF:B28:D89C (talk) 17:21, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie, thank you. I kind of thought this flurry of editing was connected to a push for a last minute presidential pardon, and the latest revision in the lede seems to add weight to that. Sorry about the curriculum change, Drmies--that really is a pain. I'd suggest drinking something other than coffee. And sorry for the IP change. For some reason, the WIFI connection is cutting out about every other day here. Must be squirrels gnawing on a wire. 2601:188:180:B8E0:AD7A:6DBF:B28:D89C (talk) 16:50, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm probably better than the office swill I'm drinking. I'm pissed: I just found out that my Wikipedia class was cancelled/moved, and I'm getting a new class, possibly with new students, but some in the old class already started on Wikipedia and may not be able to move to the new class. Plus, I need all of them to start by registering, and the new class starts tomorrow instead of Thursday, so the logistics suck: if students sign up during class we run the risk of an automatic IP block. Ugh, just realized I have to change all my office hours too, and now I have two classes back-to-back, which sucks for old people. I need a pastry. Drmies (talk) 16:24, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- No pastries or financial windfalls, just a delicious cup of Honduran light roast. The account I blocked for 60 hours had a history going back a little ways, so I gave them a little benefit of the doubt. Obviously if their case of WP:IDHT hasn't cleared up in the next 60 hours, a prescription of "indefinite" could be filled. OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:13, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Just beat me to it
I was about to report this account [51]. Thanks, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:AD7A:6DBF:B28:D89C (talk) 01:51, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Nyeh yeh yeh. Drmies (talk) 01:52, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Aha. We're all a bit giddy tonight. 2601:188:180:B8E0:AD7A:6DBF:B28:D89C (talk) 01:55, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
There's a difficult history with the article creator and this bio. My question, Drmies and Ohnoitsjamie, is whether the draft [52] now supports notability, or is just a rinse and repeat from this account. If so, is there reason to block and/or salt? I don't know why the editor would post the article without any content, unless they're waiting on a speedy template to start a discussion/confrontation. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:40, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm I don't see much notability there (yet). I'm a bit loath to take preventative action, but User:NanaKofiER, that article will need some work and I suggest you go through the draft process and submit it, rather than just moving it back. Drmies (talk) 21:51, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- I understand. The user history is pretty clearly WP:SPA, but I wasn't sure whether the subject meets notability. Doesn't help that it's been deleted so many times. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:41, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your input... are you open to helping me improve the article. I'm sure written properly the subject would be considered notable given the heavy influence and trend in Black America to visit and move to Africa NanaKofiER (talk) 15:25, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- NanaKofiER, your question merits a response, but probably not the one you're hoping for. Your sole interest at Wikipedia has been to promote Mr. McCrorey, and I don't assist WP:SPA accounts with conflict of interest, WP:COI. You can try a noticeboard for assistance starting an article--perhaps another editor will be more helpful. Best wishes, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:17, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Firm but fare is always acceptable... thank you for your time.. NanaKofiER (talk) 23:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- I just had a look at a few of your edits, NanaKofiER, as at Tourism in Ghana, where you added multiple references to articles about Mr. McCrorey that had little or no relevance to the content. You've troubled numerous editors and ignored multiple suggestions and warnings re: advertising here. If you continue to promote a person on Wikipedia on the strength of a passing news event, I will ask that your account be blocked. Thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:8804:65CA:7CE3:366C (talk) 17:20, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Persistent addition of unsourced content, mostly theater
Drmies, your block of 35.141.74.186 (talk · contribs) proved to be nothing but a speed bump. I'm pretty sure, based on edit pattern and that both IPs are from Orlando, that this is a WP:LTA; see 72.238.177.39 (talk · contribs). And if they've used two accounts, they've probably used many more. A little thing like WP:RELIABLE isn't going to get in their way. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:A138:DD39:2B64:7F79 (talk) 20:59, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, Melcous, ugh. If I started eviscerating this I'd be accused of vandalism in a heartbeat. Give a look when you have time, check that copyright business, and have a great weekend. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:44, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- Adding Diannaa to this, since you once attempted some clean-up there. It's grown back with a vengeance. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:49, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hi 99, my apologies; you were bang on once again. I actually don't think there's anything worth saving if the copied stuff is removed and so I've tagged the page to be deleted. Thanks, Jack Frost (talk) 09:36, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- No apology necessary, Jack Frost. Thank you for your help on this. Alas, one day you have a lengthy Wikipedia entry, and *poof*, the next day you're gone. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:22, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
January 2021
Hello, I'm going to inform an experienced user about this. Thanks. -- Kamilalibhat (talk) 06:08, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- That would be great. Please include the diff where you restored unsourced and unencyclopedic content. I've given the other user a final warning. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 06:10, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Kamilalibhat, per the recent discussions at your talk page, I see this was not the only mistaken reversion you've made in the last few hours. I suggest slowing down and not undoing an edit unless you're absolutely certain it's vandalism or inappropriate. To do otherwise is disruptive. Thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:27, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
A small ocean of unsourced content
Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or ToBeFree, is there a good reason for not indeffing MrMattHedrich (talk · contribs)? Mostly they're responsible for a mass of non-improvements to movie and cartoon plots, and their edit summaries and talk page responses indicate competency issues. I came across their contributions to Three Stooges pieces, but am more concerned with the unsourced additions and grammatical damage done to serious historical articles like Assassination of Abraham Lincoln and Lucy Lambert Hale. Would appreciate any reversions you see fit at those. Thanks and have a great weekend. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:44, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Add Presidency of Abraham Lincoln to the victims, with the run-on sentences that remind me of the Baltimore vandal. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:56, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- I gave them a final warning (also because they said "you lied"); I don't yet feel comfortable blocking, but I'm multitasking and didn't look at all their edits. Hey, if you feel thusly inclined, there's an interesting post at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York on a topic you might could help with... Drmies (talk) 17:41, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. I assume the link you intended was for [53]. Not sure that I can be of help there....Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:04, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- You've already been of help, thanks. And wouldn't it be exciting to exercise your considerable editorial talent on a worthwhile article? Drmies (talk) 18:53, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. I assume the link you intended was for [53]. Not sure that I can be of help there....Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:04, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- I gave them a final warning (also because they said "you lied"); I don't yet feel comfortable blocking, but I'm multitasking and didn't look at all their edits. Hey, if you feel thusly inclined, there's an interesting post at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York on a topic you might could help with... Drmies (talk) 17:41, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, MrMattHedrich (talk · contribs) didn't keep his promise to quit, with foreseeable results. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:53, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, but...and you know what I'm going to say, it's not a bad edit, is it? And it came with an edit summary... Drmies (talk) 21:56, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- It wasn't very good, either. I've no problem with allowing more rope. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:58, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Nor, Drmies, was this well written, or clear in sourcing [54]. I'm speaking to the cumulative disruption, rather than one or two camel-breaking straws. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:51, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. I've no doubt this will rinse and repeat. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:15, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- Nor, Drmies, was this well written, or clear in sourcing [54]. I'm speaking to the cumulative disruption, rather than one or two camel-breaking straws. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:51, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- It wasn't very good, either. I've no problem with allowing more rope. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:58, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Dammit, Drmies
You beat me to Jeremy Nell, Drmies. Probably a sign that I should get outside. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:15, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- Ha, the first time in years I beat someone to it. Drmies (talk) 18:16, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Have you created an account before, or what?
If you’re an IP fighting vandalism, you must’ve created an account before. And have you created an account before? This is the second time I am asking you because I didn’t understand your first answer. This is just a question on if you’ve created an account or not. –Cupper52Discuss! 12:23, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- (watching) @Cupper52: Congratulations on drawing me out of semi-retirement to comment on your ill-deserved question and respond with a reciprocal minor bollocking.If you examine this page's history, you will find it to be littered with supportive comments and thanks from many established editors, and including a number of administrators.This is in stark contrast to your own talk page which–while also littered with comments from from established editors and administrators–they are regularly ([55],[56],[57],[58],[59]) issuing you with warnings and advice to cease whatever current activity it was/is of yours that disrupts the poject.If I was you, I would probably be more concerned with the 'final warning before being blocked' currently residing at the bottom of your page.The bottom line is, that regardless of this editor's previous account or otherwise, they are a making a more positive contribution to the project than you. Indeed, you are probably more at risk of someone examining your early edits and asking you the same question that you asked here. I'd re-iterate the advice you have previously been given—to slow down—while adding a corollary of my own: concern yourself more with what you are doing than with what others are doing. ——Serial 14:27, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Serial Number 54129, thank you. Could be someone who's looking ahead to post-block alternatives. It's good to hear from you; I hope you're staying well. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:33, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Well well well if it isn't ole Serial Number 54129, coming out of retirement waving the scepter of the wrath of God! And righteously so. User:Cupper52, I assume that by now you've been warned plenty--I hope so anyway, because Serial Number was absolutely correct. Drmies (talk) 23:00, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry to clutter your Talk page further, @99, but if Serial Number 54129 can come out of semi-retirement, I can come out of more-than-semi retirement to comment on the charming Cupper52. C52 first attracted my attention with my revert of their edit on my Talk page last August. Since that time, I've spent far too much time watching their edits and scratching my head why they haven't been indefinitely blocked as a combination of incompetent/nothere/disruptive. I could list the many, many edits they've made that back up my assertion, but I'm already doing more than I should by commenting at all. And addressing SN54129's comment above, in August I assumed C52 was also a sock, but since then I've had my doubts. Whether or no, their conduct does not warrant anything shorter than an indefinite block. Don't forget to block their so-called alternative accounts (I know of at least one). Back to my unhealthy (for me) lurking.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:37, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Bbb23, hi. I'm running into several recently registered accounts lately that are deeply involved in fairly sophisticated pursuits, and are quite bad at them. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:55, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Bbb23 (Reading more carefully now) I didn't realize you'd retired. Best regards, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:59, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry to clutter your Talk page further, @99, but if Serial Number 54129 can come out of semi-retirement, I can come out of more-than-semi retirement to comment on the charming Cupper52. C52 first attracted my attention with my revert of their edit on my Talk page last August. Since that time, I've spent far too much time watching their edits and scratching my head why they haven't been indefinitely blocked as a combination of incompetent/nothere/disruptive. I could list the many, many edits they've made that back up my assertion, but I'm already doing more than I should by commenting at all. And addressing SN54129's comment above, in August I assumed C52 was also a sock, but since then I've had my doubts. Whether or no, their conduct does not warrant anything shorter than an indefinite block. Don't forget to block their so-called alternative accounts (I know of at least one). Back to my unhealthy (for me) lurking.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:37, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Well well well if it isn't ole Serial Number 54129, coming out of retirement waving the scepter of the wrath of God! And righteously so. User:Cupper52, I assume that by now you've been warned plenty--I hope so anyway, because Serial Number was absolutely correct. Drmies (talk) 23:00, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Serial Number 54129, thank you. Could be someone who's looking ahead to post-block alternatives. It's good to hear from you; I hope you're staying well. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:33, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Always good to hear from all this crew. Drmies, I trust last night's storms weren't too near you. And what the hell's going on in the Netherlands? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:52, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I watched him on NY TV back in the 1980s, but the COI editing here looks problematic. Drmies, thoughts welcome. Maybe we can do some improving without eviscerating the article. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:38, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, this is Ann Yih Johnson, John's wife and a former CBS News producer. I was trying to fix the inline citations and remove the template, not change any of the factual content in the entry. I would appreciate any help and expertise you could give to correct the article. Thank you for your time!
Johnson73 (talk) 03:08, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Ms. Johnson, Johnson73. I couldn't figure out how to straighten the citation business quickly, and saw that you also reached out to Cullen328. Mostly, I wanted to slow you down and get some help with formatting the article--perhaps a few Wikipedia editors will be able to correct things. Please tell your husband that I remember him well from his work in the 80s, as many people do. Respectfully yours, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:43, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi, please call me Ann! John says hello as well and thanks you for your kind words as well as helping us with his Wikipedia article. Cullen328 has been a wonder and making corrections. Have a great day, and stay safe.Johnson73 (talk) 15:40, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Ann, Johnson73. My apologies for maintaining anonymity--I enjoy a marginal claim to notability, and prefer not to divulge my name here so as to discourage reprisals against my bio. Agreed about Cullen's contributions. Very best, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:40, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
No problem! Well put. How do I make Cullen328 a different font color, so it links to his page?Johnson73 (talk) 00:23, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Johnson73, notwithstanding all the years I've edited here, many seemingly simple mechanisms are above my pay grade. This is one of them. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:38, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. I have to learn the language of Wikipedia!Johnson73 (talk) 02:47, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Doesn't rise to noticeboard status, nor do I want to ping individual admins over every thing. If someone's stalking the talk page, I'd like more eyes on this. Could require page protection at some point.... 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:59, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Done Requested. Best, ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 13:54, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Edit reversion
Sorry, I pressed a wrong button and accidentally reverted your edit, not the non-notable additions. I just want to let you know that I didn't mean it. Thanks! -322UbnBr2 (Talk | Contributions | Actions) 17:39, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Understood and much appreciated, Unbinilium-322_Dibromide. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:41, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Cheezus, Drmies. I don't want to edit war with every WP:BLP violation. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:00, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you much. As far as Seb Cabot, apparently I was mistaken. Second time in a decade. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:27, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
It will be aggressive incompetence that does me in, and perhaps the message to me is to just leave articles alone and walk away from the site.
The detailed edit summaries I leave are meaningless. Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie, the article has been returned to its former promotional, unsourced and copyright violation glory. When you have time, please have a look, and see if this requires much rev/deletion for the copied stuff. Dealing with the unsourced/promotional bilge is for bonus points. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:36, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Cairns State High School
Hi, why weren't these changes notable?
TheBlueReindeer (talk) 04:49, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, did you read the message I left you? We don't name students and faculty unless they've achieved WP:NOTABILITY, such that they'd qualify for standalone articles. Please don't add yourself or friends to Wikipedia articles. Thank you, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:51, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
That's a lot of copyright violation. Drmies or ToBeFree, when you have a chance. Thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:06, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) - Article scrubbed and revdel requested. Jack Frost (talk) 01:35, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- Jack Frost, thank you. What's left about the library now stands out as WP:UNDUE, especially given its source. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:38, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- You're on top of it. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- I'd commented here before remembering to publish my second round of edits on the page itself; thanks for the reminder! Jack Frost (talk) 05:54, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- You're on top of it. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- Jack Frost, thank you. What's left about the library now stands out as WP:UNDUE, especially given its source. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:38, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the notification and the removal, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 and Jack Frost. I had to access the copyvio source through the Internet Archive's "save page" function as the website currently redirects access from the European Union. The revisions are gone now. :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 07:44, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, ToBeFree. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:48, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Note to self
Disruptive IP range to watch [60]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:35, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Persistent vandalism from Nepal
Simon nepali (talk · contribs), continuing long after your final warning, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:19, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Handled by ToBeFree! Drmies (talk) 21:10, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes. Drmies, could you block this clown SACCESBONGO (talk · contribs)? Nobody patrols AIV anymore. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:30, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Well, I'm busy with this, while I'm chatting with the third Adobe rep in a row trying to get signed in to the company account. I am not in a happy mood. Hope you're better. Drmies (talk) 21:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- I hear you. I wasted an immense amount of time on the phone today trying to speak to someone at Amtrak re: expiring tickets, with no success. Bad moods seem to be prevalent. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Well, I'm busy with this, while I'm chatting with the third Adobe rep in a row trying to get signed in to the company account. I am not in a happy mood. Hope you're better. Drmies (talk) 21:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Oh hey. I had seen it at AIV, reported by Vif12vf. While technically more suitable for a quick informal notice at WP:ANI, and declined for this, I read the user's talk page comments and didn't see a need to make this more complicated than it is. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:06, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:30, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes. Drmies, could you block this clown SACCESBONGO (talk · contribs)? Nobody patrols AIV anymore. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, my edits here were coincidental--I noticed afterwards that you'd done some recent cleaning up. There's still much to do in the way of removing the press release content. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:13, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- yeah that was just awful. Drmies (talk) 18:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Aha. Yes, I'm going to drop a block on User talk:KathleenNeville, to prevent them from editing the article. They'll have to stick to the talk page. Drmies (talk) 18:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Amen. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:20, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Requesting a limited user block
Girth Summit or Drmies, of Stewart Stuart (talk · contribs) at Hacienda Riquelme Golf Resort. Long term, solely promotional WP:SPA. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:58, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:02, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- More importantly, several recent attempts to reframe the narrative at Killing of Rayshard Brooks. Perhaps page protection will be necessary. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:44, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- We'll see. I left an only warning. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:04, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Thanks for removing that copyvio!
Scorpions13256 (talk) 17:19, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Scorpions13256. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:27, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Rangeblock
I saw your ANI and AIV report regarding 2001:14bb:440:9e16::/64. I blocked the range for a week. Feel free to ping me if they abuse their talk page access. Thanks again. -- LuK3 (Talk) 18:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Much appreciated, LuK3. Have a good weekend. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:13, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
No hurry on this, but what a long, poorly sourced example of boosterism. Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or JJMC89, thoughts/excision welcome. As usual, if I start paring unsourced sections, someone from the university, a WP:SPA or a passerby is bound to cry vandalism. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:32, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- So much of it, I'm afraid, is like this [61]. Fine for a school publication, not for here. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:53, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Are drum majors notable enough to merit listing? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Haha, thanks! I'm not sure anything there really merits listing... Drmies (talk) 02:07, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Are drum majors notable enough to merit listing? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
The Cleanup Barnstar | ||
Not for me, but for Drmies. Thank you for responding, and for wielding the oft-necessary scalpel. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC) |
Another promotional piece written by a COI account. Where to begin? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:47, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Incidentally, should edits including the (now reverted) copyright violations of the mission statement and purpose be rev/deleted? Thanks, Ohnoitsjamie, ToBeFree and Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:57, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Regarding the copyright of the content removed in Special:Diff/1005117236, I'm unsure: It seems to be an over-long quotation, surely not useful for the encyclopedia in this form, but not something that makes me rush to the revdel button. The source is attributed, the content is enclosed in quotation marks. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:16, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, ToBeFree. Their responses here [62], [63] suggest difficulty understanding COI and promotion. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:21, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Mhm. Please keep me updated. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:59, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, ToBeFree. Their responses here [62], [63] suggest difficulty understanding COI and promotion. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:21, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Regarding the copyright of the content removed in Special:Diff/1005117236, I'm unsure: It seems to be an over-long quotation, surely not useful for the encyclopedia in this form, but not something that makes me rush to the revdel button. The source is attributed, the content is enclosed in quotation marks. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:16, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, and in response to all the "Thank you"s, you're welcome, of course. I often avoid having the last word in such discussions and just click "Thank" on the edit that thanks me, but I can't do that here, so my usual approach fails ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Understood, ToBeFree. Notwithstanding the time you're spending explaining policy to our friend, I'm not seeing a willingness to understand. It's all about arguing for loopholes that will allow them to do what they've been clearly and repeatedly warned against. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Me neither... Instead of addressing their repetition, I have now made a relatively unnecessary clarification (Special:Diff/1005290734) as I think that's the best answer for now. If they continue to edit the article after the week, I'd be happy about a ping, as that would likely create a need for a quick partial block. However, they do seem to agree to use the talk page instead of directly editing the article, so – hope dies last – that hopefully won't be necessary. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:44, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Understood, ToBeFree. Notwithstanding the time you're spending explaining policy to our friend, I'm not seeing a willingness to understand. It's all about arguing for loopholes that will allow them to do what they've been clearly and repeatedly warned against. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- I hear you. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
A bunch of hoax drafts
Little response to this report at ANI [64]. A nest of related IPs, drafting fairly elaborate hoaxes. Wondering if they can be deleted en masse, and what sort of blocks (range?) are practical. Drmies, ToBeFree? As for me, it's off to football land soon. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:57, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for the ping. The drafts are already under discussion at MfD, if I see correctly. The IP address ranges are pretty broad. A partial block from editing the Draft namespace may be a solution, but I currently lack the time to investigate this further. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:00, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- How do you find this stuff?? Amazing, really. Enjoy the game. Go team!...whichever one. :) S0091 (talk) 23:04, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, S0091, it's not hard. Most days I come across simple vandalism, promotion, defamation, etc. This one isn't that unusual, but it does suggest a certain youthful creativity that's being wasted on this site. If I were a betting man, I'd take KC and give the points. I'm expecting a blowout. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:18, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- There's a reason I'm not betting. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:22, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah sorry, I don't feel like adminning today. Who was betting on KC? Drmies (talk) 02:01, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, of course. What a dud of a game. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:27, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- I had some hopes at the end of the third quarter, and Mahomes was showing some magic, but two of those spectacular desperate throws went nowhere and boom, game over. Tampa Bay had the right game plan. Take care--you must be shoveling snow today! Drmies (talk) 18:32, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- I pretty much gave up at halftime and switched over to All Creatures Great and Small. We got another half foot or so, but I don't shovel much anymore. The plowman has had a profitable week. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:31, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- I had some hopes at the end of the third quarter, and Mahomes was showing some magic, but two of those spectacular desperate throws went nowhere and boom, game over. Tampa Bay had the right game plan. Take care--you must be shoveling snow today! Drmies (talk) 18:32, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, of course. What a dud of a game. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:27, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah sorry, I don't feel like adminning today. Who was betting on KC? Drmies (talk) 02:01, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Best response ever to a speedy deletion nomination
[65]. Of course, it will probably be deleted soon. But you have to like an invitation to see proof by meeting at an outside app. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:51, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- "This article is not a hoax I can prove it to you.If so,meet me on discord."? Discord_(software)#Controversies--I'll stick to Grindr. Drmies (talk) 18:35, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Prolific block evasion?
Drmies, Ponyo, I submit Monstruo Mutant (talk · contribs). Is this another incarnation of ElArcher44, who in turn.....2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:02, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Sro23. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:08, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- If only they meant it [66]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:09, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- I don't have much more to report. They're on a very busy range but I found no other socks. Drmies (talk) 15:15, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- If only they meant it [66]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:09, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
New temporary address
Everything glitched today. Hopefully I'll return soon as 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63. 2601:188:180:B8E0:85B0:B2F8:1934:3327 (talk) 05:11, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Quacks like block evasion
ចៅចិត្រ (talk · contribs) Looks like Prokhmer (talk · contribs). Also may be more copyright violations, or at least paraphrasing sources. Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or ToBeFree, please have a look at your convenience. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:85B0:B2F8:1934:3327 (talk) 19:22, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Lunch is ready so I have to run, but I can tell you that that user is confirmed to Prokhmer, and is also User:Khmerloy9 and User:Norasky53, and is thus connected to User:Phnom Penh Skyline. I think the best thing to do is to file a new SPI report for User:Phnom Penh Skyline, and list all the accounts there, and ask for CU: I can't follow all the trails right now. Ask the CU to look at all the accounts including Prokhmer. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 19:34, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Drmies and ToBeFree. I'm headed out for at least a few hours. Terrific clean up. 2601:188:180:B8E0:85B0:B2F8:1934:3327 (talk) 19:46, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks and you're welcome – an investigation page now exists at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Phnom Penh Skyline. WP:SPI is probably better suited for such reports in general. It has a green box labelled "If you are an anonymous (IP address) editor, and the case page is protected or does not exist, please click "show" to the right and use the box below" inside the "How to open an investigation:" box for cases where the master is unknown or doesn't yet have a page. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:51, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Drmies and ToBeFree. I'm headed out for at least a few hours. Terrific clean up. 2601:188:180:B8E0:85B0:B2F8:1934:3327 (talk) 19:46, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, thanks for the clean up there. I've issued a final warning for promotional edits--the content you removed included more copied press releases. This after multiple warnings over copyright issues. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:85B0:B2F8:1934:3327 (talk) 00:18, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your work there. St. Petersburg--lovely place, I'm sure. They have a good newspaper. Diane Roberts probably deserves an article, although she also deserves a spanking for leaving Alabama for Florida State. Drmies (talk) 00:46, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- How do I put this gently? Nearly all content they've added to St. Pete and related articles has been so much press release, copied or paraphrased content, pissed across the platform in dozens of edits. Have a look and see if I'm being unfair. Should have been blocked months ago. 2601:188:180:B8E0:85B0:B2F8:1934:3327 (talk) 01:06, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Drmies, after the latest spam/copyright violation, I think a block is more than warranted. If you prefer not to, I'll be happy to make a report at either AIV or ANI. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:15C4:2E2D:8425:5AA9 (talk) 15:47, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- How do I put this gently? Nearly all content they've added to St. Pete and related articles has been so much press release, copied or paraphrased content, pissed across the platform in dozens of edits. Have a look and see if I'm being unfair. Should have been blocked months ago. 2601:188:180:B8E0:85B0:B2F8:1934:3327 (talk) 01:06, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Sockfarm
At Bikini and Rebecca Metz. Please have a look when you're free, Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or ToBeFree. And thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:12, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. That sucked. I can't decide yet if User:Sakura123456743454 is the master or if User:Sex love is just a longterm asshole vandal. There may be more. Drmies (talk) 02:00, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- My lord, I had no idea so many hornets were in one nest. Here's a virtual pint for you, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:10, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. Yes, that was quite something. And when you look at a list of, what, two dozen socks, it's easy to miss the one editor in there who was not part of it, though I'm wondering if it was a real case of "my little brother". I can't give too much away, but there was what appears to be a legitimate editor in that first batch, but when I checked them, I found a second batch--the Sex love nest, which is the same person as Sakura. Odd. Drmies (talk) 03:13, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- You're not giving anything away--I'm not sharp enough to fully understand. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:15, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. Yes, that was quite something. And when you look at a list of, what, two dozen socks, it's easy to miss the one editor in there who was not part of it, though I'm wondering if it was a real case of "my little brother". I can't give too much away, but there was what appears to be a legitimate editor in that first batch, but when I checked them, I found a second batch--the Sex love nest, which is the same person as Sakura. Odd. Drmies (talk) 03:13, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- My lord, I had no idea so many hornets were in one nest. Here's a virtual pint for you, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:10, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Paytm; even the edit summaries were copyright infringement
Some rev/deletion requested..... 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 06:00, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Large swaths of unsourced content at a WP:BLP, once removed and subsequently restored several years ago. Melcous or Drmies? Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:50, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
I said "excellent patrolling" after a quick glance at your page. Upon closer inspection, it's downright superhuman—and without the comforts of Twinkle. Thanks! DanCherek (talk) 21:10, 15 February 2021 (UTC) |
- Thank you, DanCherek. Nah, I just have some old school experience. Very best, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:16, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
I tried to revert the recent data dump, but Wiki's infallible sensors blocked my edit, thinking it vandalism. Would appreciate more eyes, and a look at the account's edit history. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:30, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Melcous, we're stepping all over one another's toes. Thank you very much for the assistance. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:59, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- By the way, I give it a pass on notability, since it's apparently classified as a museum. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:00, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes sorry about that ... usually we edit in different time zones! All good, I didn't realise you meant the lead when I assumed it was just an edit conflict on the rest of the info dump. Thanks! Melcous (talk) 22:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
I've found a perfect hot mess of a bio for editing, 2/3 press release and 1/3 insufficiently sourced criminal section, all of it unacceptably written. Drmies or Melcous, might be fun if you have a cup of coffee at hand. Or a shot of gin. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:25, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sidenote - I had a brief crack at it, but have to run suddenly; as I'd only managed a very rough cut I've restored the article to its' previous glory... No prejudice to anyone else going at it. Apologies for the inconvenience. Jack Frost (talk) 06:25, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for having a go Jack Frost, I was able to bounce off what you had done to do some trimming, and Drmies has come in and done some more, so it's certainly looking much better. Melcous (talk)
- I second that; thank you, Jack Frost, as well as Drmies and Melcous. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:8804:65CA:7CE3:366C (talk) 16:25, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for having a go Jack Frost, I was able to bounce off what you had done to do some trimming, and Drmies has come in and done some more, so it's certainly looking much better. Melcous (talk)
Firstly, my gratitude to Melcous and Drmies for your above and beyond assistance.
I'm asking for more eyes on these articles, so that it won't appear as if I'm waging a personal campaign against a couple of WP:COIs. Just some occasional backup, and perhaps another voice in the mix, so I'm not the only editor chastising. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:05, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Though Melcous and I both worked on this article in the past, the question I have tonight is about WP:COI, beginning with the recent odd editing by Stephkapfunde (talk · contribs), removing article templates and warnings at another editor's talk page; this was a new one on me [67]. The user has divulged that they're a paid editor--Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie, maybe they could use a visit, if not a block. Oh, and the article could still use clean up. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:8804:65CA:7CE3:366C (talk) 00:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- It might be that the article will be best served by returning to a previous, less spammy version. 2601:188:180:B8E0:8804:65CA:7CE3:366C (talk) 01:09, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Thank you very much for reverting vandalism! I suggest you to create an account. Larry Z Contact me my edits 20:58, 18 February 2021 (UTC) |
More eyes at ANI, please
For [68]. Persistent copyright issues, WP:COI across multiple articles, block evasion. Really, I don't know how to make it any more seductive. Something for every administrator. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:06, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Persistent removal of sourced content from lede, WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Drmies or ToBeFree, is this WP:MULTIPLE? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, TBF. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:45, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Sockpuppets on both sides of the dispute (see Special:Diff/1007879244 for example, and the geolocation of the reverting IP addresses). Semi-protected indefinitely per WP:GS/COVID19, as I always do in such cases. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:47, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- No problem, thanks for the notification. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:47, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- It was Air Force's edits that caught my attention, because they were involved in a separate incident at Hobby School. I doubt they had an ideological dog in that fight, ToBeFree. They just looked like a freelance loose cannon. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:50, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- By the way, I could not buy a vowel when it came to getting a block on [69]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:53, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- All gone ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! ToBeFree, it's dead at AIV, and I could use a hand with one right now. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- All gone ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- By the way, I could not buy a vowel when it came to getting a block on [69]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:53, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- It was Air Force's edits that caught my attention, because they were involved in a separate incident at Hobby School. I doubt they had an ideological dog in that fight, ToBeFree. They just looked like a freelance loose cannon. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:50, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- No problem, thanks for the notification. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:47, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- That lede is awful, though--much too detailed and anecdotal. Drmies (talk) 02:52, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, Yeah. Maybe you can trim it further--if I tried it would be construed as vandalism. Speaking of which, the not so thinly veiled anti-semitism at Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:36, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Many thanks. I figure the flotsam I come across while editing is a fair reflection of the hate that's out there now. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:58, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, Yeah. Maybe you can trim it further--if I tried it would be construed as vandalism. Speaking of which, the not so thinly veiled anti-semitism at Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:36, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
I made a modest start on this a few days ago--a press release with COI edits going back years. Little traction at ANI [70]. Melcous, you're great on quick clean ups of vanity bios....if you have the time and inclination. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:37, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Actually, it's been kind of a spamicle since its creation [71]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:49, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Melcous. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:17, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- No worries, thanks for asking - as you know, its the kind of thing I'm happy to have a run at :) Melcous (talk) 04:59, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Well, you're excellent at it, Melcous, and less hesitant in execution than I tend to be. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:08, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Here's one, ToBeFree. Needs a lock and possibly a lot of rev/deletion from the mass attack. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:00, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- You're welcome, and thank you very much for the notification. I hope I have found all deletable revisions; please let the people at #wikipedia-en-revdel know if there's more. :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:27, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Some input on 'illegitmacy'
Drmies and Ohnoitsjamie, am I wrong to have reverted edits by Maggiccat (talk · contribs)? I've explained policy re: unsourced descriptions, but that stop sign was blown through. At the least, this is edit warring, and I want no part of that if this is merely hairsplitting. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:43, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sure reads as pointy to me. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:46, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, thank you very much. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:49, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Glad to be of service! Drmies (talk) 23:09, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- One of the reasons I prevail upon your services so often is that the noticeboards have become such weed gardens, where valid reports are automatically removed after four hours, without any action taken. I've never seen AIV reports stack up like they have in the last month or two. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:13, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Glad to be of service! Drmies (talk) 23:09, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, thank you very much. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:49, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Would appreciate thoughts on these bios
Am I being a hard-ass on Draft:Tyrone Grandison and Bryant York? I don't want Wiki to be the province of old white men, but both of these have had problems with copied content, promotional tone and conflict of interest. WP:COI accounts won't acknowledge their COI. Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie, your thoughts appreciated. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:03, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, I had to gut Presidential Innovation Fellows. Drmies (talk) 02:11, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Don't know if you saw my notes: I removed the CSD tag, because the copied bits were mostly titles, awards, functions, that sort of stuff. However, the COI, the promotional resumes, the lack of secondary sourcing, all that was enough to validate immediate deletion. Drmies (talk) 02:21, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Explained very well. The copyright violations were pretty heavy in the original versions--attempts were made to remove them, but you saw the issues that remained. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:25, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, if you're still about, the usual whitewashing. I've asked for page protection, but that could take awhile. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:05, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. Pretty gross, huh--it's Facebook-style trolling. Drmies (talk) 03:31, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Dr. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Since there's nobody working at this hour, I'll place these here--both articles need more eyes, and user blocks. 2601:188:180:B8E0:39A7:29FF:2C49:3CF2 (talk) 06:26, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Defamatory content at Wilton Sampaio
Not the most egregious, but still. Worthy of rev/deletion? 2601:188:180:B8E0:39A7:29FF:2C49:3CF2 (talk) 02:55, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Sorry Bob!
I didn't mean to revert that edit you made to Old Christians RFC. I meant to revert the edit next to it in the queue. I owe you my apologies for that... :-/ ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:58, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- No sweat, Oshwah. Cheers! 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:00, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- And I can see the confusion, Oshwah, what with two Bobs involved [72]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:17, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
ToBeFree, Drmies, El_C, more eyes on this will be appreciated. Several recent attempts to make this a promotional piece, including some copyright violation. Please rev/delete as necessary. And have a good weekend. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:54, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping - I currently can't do the copyright investigation, but I'll have an eye on the page. Semi-protection would lock you out, which in this specific case would probably a net negative. You too :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:11, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, I finished second in the Outlaw category, so I'm good. Drmies (talk) 03:32, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Mika Simmons and walled garden of related articles
This edit suffices to explain [73]. See Gynaecological Cancer Fund and Lady Garden Campaign. A lot of clean up of this promotional trio will be needed, with questions about notability. Thoughts, Drmies, Melcous and other good minds? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 10:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- It's interesting that each article was created by a different W:SPA. If anyone wants to do a sock check.... 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 10:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- And there's Ms. Simmons' brother, Keir Simmons, whose bio has become a resume of stories covered. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 10:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Bob, I've done an initial go-over of the Mika Simmons article, I'm wondering about notability there. I've also boldly redirected the Campaign article as it duplicated the content of the Fund article and I'm not convinced one is notable, let alone both independently. Keir Simmons appears more notable, but you're right, needs some clean up as it reads a list of run of the mill activities for someone in that profession. Melcous (talk) 12:07, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keir is definitely notable. Agreed with all your assessments, Melcous. I've started a thread at ANI re: the whole business. Thank you very much, and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 12:09, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, too, for the clean up on these, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keir is definitely notable. Agreed with all your assessments, Melcous. I've started a thread at ANI re: the whole business. Thank you very much, and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 12:09, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Requesting another block
For 82.114.89.102 (talk · contribs), who hasn't behaved so well since your last block, Drmies. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Another froth piece. Drmies, Melcous, if you're free, have a look. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Vanispam. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 23:44, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Indeed. Thank you, Drmies. I hope your class schedule is somehow working out. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:53, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Drmies! Melcous (talk) 00:05, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Indeed. Thank you, Drmies. I hope your class schedule is somehow working out. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:53, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Vandalism help
Drmies, if you're around. AIV is dormant, as is so often the case now. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:13, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- There was only one left after the yeoman's work done by Izno. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah; notwithstanding my exasperation with the noticeboard backups, I do appreciate how overextended the admins are. You're pretty much all doing yeoman's work. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:35, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Thanks for this.
Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:00, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Fylindfotberserk. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:18, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks bud. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:14, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- You're very welcome, Fylindfotberserk. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:16, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks bud. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:14, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
We had a very windy day
And that's all it took to lose Wifi here. So, I am temporarily 2601:188:180:B8E0:2C2B:FB39:A295:F543 (talk) 15:29, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, Melcous, have a look. Pure vanity page. 2601:188:180:B8E0:2C2B:FB39:A295:F543 (talk) 00:42, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:02, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- One tag gone, one tag to go. Let's see how the editor deals with the situation. They could do the right thing, you never know... Drmies (talk) 21:17, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Well, this was inevitable....Woody Allen
I don't know how far back the WP:BLP violations go, but there's a problem with what shows show up in the edit history. Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie, Ponyo, what are your thoughts re: rev/deletion and page protection? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
This should be deleted, I just can not figure out the rationale. Promotional, neologism? Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Handled adroitly by my colleague. Man, I'm just dropping blocks, CU blocks, range blocs, left and right. Maybe it's time to play some dominoes or something. Drmies (talk) 01:38, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yep, it was the perfect solution. Why dominoes when there's liquor in the cabinet? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:39, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Return of Bryson Johnson
Drmies, I do believe Bryson Johnson (talk · contribs) and/or Romello Brooks (talk · contribs) lives, in the guise of another range you may end up blocking. See the edit history at Egypt, Tennessee, and let me know what you think. A lot of edits by 2601. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:04, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- ToBeFree, you helped by reverting much of the previous damage. This may be much the same. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:10, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Here's the IP range I'm thinking of [74]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:31, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- King Work (talk · contribs) and Richard Raleigh (talk · contribs) were two more who appear related. One of the shared characteristics, in addition to adding unsourced content and numerous poorly written passages, is that new evasion accounts appear to 'make amends' and create distance by reverting edits by their predecessor accounts. NinjaRobotPirate (talk · contribs), I think you blocked one of these. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:45, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Here's the IP range I'm thinking of [74]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:31, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, both 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 and Drmies. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:41, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, my thanks to Drmies for taking on what I imagine was a pain in the neck. I was set to post a terser and better organized report to ANI tonight. Maybe later I'll do some mass reversions at Memphis school articles....with the expectation that someone will misconstrue them as vandalism and revert me. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:31, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Thank you for dealing with that abusive sockpuppet! JavaHurricane 13:13, 10 March 2021 (UTC) |
Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed
Would you or Drmies care to wade into the pool of East African politics? I don't recall how the page initially came to my attention, but it has some serious WP:WEIGHT issues on the negative side, in particular, Mohamed_Abdullahi_Mohamed#Presidential_term_(2017–2021), which I've tagged as such. One editor in particular appears to have an agenda against the current president, and has taken ownership of the page and is highly resistant to anyone attempting to prune the coatrack of negative press that dominates it. A few other new editors have tried taking a sledgehammer to the page, which of course isn't the best course of action, but I feel that we need some more experienced editors weighing in. I've considered taking it to to WP:ANI, but I'm not sure if we're there yet. Cheers, OhNoitsJamie Talk 23:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
- Not tonight, thanks. Drmies (talk) 02:35, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ohnoitsjamie, I spent perhaps fifteen minutes scanning that lengthy section, and didn't delve deeply into much of it. My main,if superficial takeaways are as follows: There is an abundance of negative, or at least ambivalent coverage. However, that seems to be inevitable given the political history of the country--the job looks like a no-win position--and recent developments around a contested election, including claims of assassination attempts against opposition leaders. Given that context, the prose doesn't look like a hatchet job. One of the first things I'd look for is the quality of the sources; is for, instance, The National Interest objective? It comes up a few times. We need to ascertain which African periodicals are neutral or if any them are blatantly partisan. There's at least one op-ed at the top of the section that probably is not an acceptable source. And a little close paraphrasing from the source at Mohamed and his security elements played a major subversive in all elections which happened in Galmudug, Hirshabelle and Southwest states. Villa Somalia decided presidents and members of Parliament for all three states, installing puppet figureheads. I can't edit as long as the article is locked, but I don't feel confident getting involved there yet anyway. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:49, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- As for the one editor's ownership, that may be appropriate for ANI, especially if you can show edit warring over the long term. If a specific article sanction is agreed upon, it may well help. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:54, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, Ohnoitsjamie, there's a pretty clear ownership issue. Support an ANI report. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:07, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
Did you get an answer on whether or not The National Interest is objective? Amirah talk 18:18, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you for fighting vandalism, —PaleoNeonate – 13:14, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- You're welcome, PaleoNeonate. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:50, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Duplication
Maybe there is a mis-communication? The trial being delayed has already been added to that section in the appropriate place. Why are you adding it two times in the same section? Are you trying to make a special point and emphasizing it by repeating it over and over again? We don't do that. It only needs to be said one time in the appropriate place in that section. -- GreenC 02:27, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- GreenC, There's no point being made. Where else does it mention the current delay? Perhaps it's right in front of me and I've missed it. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:44, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Never mind, I see it now. Thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:46, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ok no problem. That's why I left the note but maybe the note could be better. This happened before when the trial was delayed, added in two places. -- GreenC 03:38, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- GreenC, I know how irritating it is to deal first with vandalism, then with drive-by accounts who think they're making a correction. You responded with notable restraint. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:04, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ok no problem. That's why I left the note but maybe the note could be better. This happened before when the trial was delayed, added in two places. -- GreenC 03:38, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Copyright
You just removed some concise material on the false confessions page because of copyright concerns. If I put quotation marks around it, that solves the problem doesn't it? CriminologyStudent (talk) 05:30, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- No, CriminologyStudent, per WP:OVERQUOTE; I'd submit that you're leaning too hard on quotations to remedy the situation. There were additional edits where you didn't bother with quotations, including once this evening, after an administrator already had to rev/delete your earlier edits and warned you on copyright. I've asked for further review and clean up of the article. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:38, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
I've pared a lot of the unsourced fluff--long time vanity/autobiography. Drmies or Melcous, feel free. I've been too kind. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:25, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Is he known for anything at all? Drmies (talk) 23:25, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Return of Duane E. Tressler
64.26.100.49 (talk · contribs), editing again from a Baltimore library. Drmies, have a look. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:04, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your dedication in reverting all that cruft. Sauzer (talk) 20:46, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, Sauzer. That blocked account has sprayed such unsourced and poorly written histories across the Baltimore landscape. For a look at the mother lode, check out the (now split into multiple articles) Timeline of Baltimore. It's a mess that would require hours to clean up. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:49, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. I protected the two articles and dropped a block, which is about all I can do. Take care, Drmies (talk) 23:24, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, thank you. Now I have a question re: Timeline of Baltimore, which I submit is the worst sprawling 'article' in the project. Would it be reasonable to take it back to its beginnings [75], before Mr. Tressler, mostly working from the library with a slew of IPs, turned it into the eyesore it is today? I couldn't do it, because the censors would block me from removing so much content, but I wonder if this is a worthy endeavor to bring to ANI for discussion. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:35, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Your wish is my command. Drmies (talk) 23:41, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Damn, Drmies. We'll need a new barnstar for that. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:46, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, there's more. Pigsonthewing split the article into several smaller messes, as at Timeline of Baltimore to 1799 and Timeline of Baltimore in the 19th century. I propose these be redirected. There is no limit to the damage. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:49, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ha, do it and see how you fare. Good luck! (And keep me posted if you run into trouble.) As for that barnstar--there's a few more editors who've handled a blunt ax as bluntly as I have, including my old friend Sitush. Drmies (talk) 02:20, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- Done. No prejudice against sourced content being moved to the main article, but it seems to me a list is a list, not a compendium of cruft. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:37, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ha, do it and see how you fare. Good luck! (And keep me posted if you run into trouble.) As for that barnstar--there's a few more editors who've handled a blunt ax as bluntly as I have, including my old friend Sitush. Drmies (talk) 02:20, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, there's more. Pigsonthewing split the article into several smaller messes, as at Timeline of Baltimore to 1799 and Timeline of Baltimore in the 19th century. I propose these be redirected. There is no limit to the damage. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:49, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Damn, Drmies. We'll need a new barnstar for that. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:46, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Your wish is my command. Drmies (talk) 23:41, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, thank you. Now I have a question re: Timeline of Baltimore, which I submit is the worst sprawling 'article' in the project. Would it be reasonable to take it back to its beginnings [75], before Mr. Tressler, mostly working from the library with a slew of IPs, turned it into the eyesore it is today? I couldn't do it, because the censors would block me from removing so much content, but I wonder if this is a worthy endeavor to bring to ANI for discussion. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:35, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. I protected the two articles and dropped a block, which is about all I can do. Take care, Drmies (talk) 23:24, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, Sauzer. That blocked account has sprayed such unsourced and poorly written histories across the Baltimore landscape. For a look at the mother lode, check out the (now split into multiple articles) Timeline of Baltimore. It's a mess that would require hours to clean up. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:49, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Did it really justify redirecting those two enormous articles? They couldn't have been that bad, could they have? jp×g 04:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Did you really take the time to read them, or the explanation JPxG? They're that bad, and were written by a blocked account and his many IPs. Drmies, feel free to weigh in, but I'll take this to ANI for further eyes in the light of day. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- I didn't. I'll go through them now, though. jp×g 04:43, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's dismally written original research by Duane E. Tressler (talk · contribs) and dozens of his proxy IPs, working out of a Baltimore library. He's left a trail of thousands of such edits across dozens of Baltimore related articles, and unrelated topics as well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:47, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, I will say it: I think that you were right here, and I was wrong. I have looked at the thread in Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1027. It seems like there is a long and sordid history here (and the bulk of the articles, when I went through them, was total dog shit). However, it still gives me pause to think that a page that long would just be erased without even an AfD -- I don't know if you can nominate articles for deletion as an IP address but I'd gladly sponsor nominations if you wanted. jp×g 04:51, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- (note: I've restored your edit redirecting the articles for the time being, although I would still prefer this go through a deletion process (unless it already has and I couldn't find it). jp×g 04:52, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Much appreciated--I have more or less followed the editor for something like two years, and they've been evading a block since 2015. I think redirect is the easiest route, rather than AFD. But I wouldn't be influenced by its length, nor its chronological longevity. The editor had an open field to play in, since nobody called him on this for years. Which brings me to another point--it's supposed to be a timeline, not an unsourced compendium. If he'd written it decently and sourced it....but even then, a timeline is different from an article. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:00, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- If all that had been added to History of Baltimore, we'd have been compelled to sift through it and delete almost everything. But lists are ignored, which is why that happened. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:02, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- See also [76] above for more context. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:05, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- And while editing with another IP, I caught up with more of his proxies. He was productive at Timeline of Washington, D.C., as well. Trust me, it's a really awful rabbit hole, JPxG. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:14, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- If all that had been added to History of Baltimore, we'd have been compelled to sift through it and delete almost everything. But lists are ignored, which is why that happened. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:02, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Much appreciated--I have more or less followed the editor for something like two years, and they've been evading a block since 2015. I think redirect is the easiest route, rather than AFD. But I wouldn't be influenced by its length, nor its chronological longevity. The editor had an open field to play in, since nobody called him on this for years. Which brings me to another point--it's supposed to be a timeline, not an unsourced compendium. If he'd written it decently and sourced it....but even then, a timeline is different from an article. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:00, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- (note: I've restored your edit redirecting the articles for the time being, although I would still prefer this go through a deletion process (unless it already has and I couldn't find it). jp×g 04:52, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, I will say it: I think that you were right here, and I was wrong. I have looked at the thread in Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1027. It seems like there is a long and sordid history here (and the bulk of the articles, when I went through them, was total dog shit). However, it still gives me pause to think that a page that long would just be erased without even an AfD -- I don't know if you can nominate articles for deletion as an IP address but I'd gladly sponsor nominations if you wanted. jp×g 04:51, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's dismally written original research by Duane E. Tressler (talk · contribs) and dozens of his proxy IPs, working out of a Baltimore library. He's left a trail of thousands of such edits across dozens of Baltimore related articles, and unrelated topics as well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:47, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- I didn't. I'll go through them now, though. jp×g 04:43, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Minor stuff, but I could use a hand--the whole section ought to go. Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie, the family wants to keep a memorial. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:04, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for your clean-up on aisle 7. I had to stop watching it for a few hours and wow, what a mess it turned into until you stepped in, appreciate it. Schazjmd (talk) 23:28, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's what we do, Schazjmd. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:49, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Unsolicited archiving
Hi, not that I don't appreciate spring cleaning, but I haven't requested the automatic archiving Pigsonthewing gifted me. Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie, can you restore the old threads? When I try I get the An automated filter has identified this edit as potentially unconstructive, so it has been disallowed. If this edit is constructive, please report this error. Disruptive editing may result in a block from editing message. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:34, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- If you wish to complain about my actions, WP:ANI is available. Don't forget to mention that, before the archiving of 247 discussions which I triggered (all of which are now available on pages linked from this one, where you or anyone else may still view them), this page had a ridiculous 359,080 bytes of markup. And while it may be the page associated with your edits for so long as you use this IP address, you do not own it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:40, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- I did not feel the need to make a complaint at ANI, Pigsonthewing, nor is it really necessary to remind me that I don't own this page. But it does seem that rather than respecting my request, you prefer to lecture me on the length of the page, and perhaps believe you exercise a sort of dominion over it as a registered account. Thank you, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:00, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- While scrolling through 247 discussions is a slight inconvenience, I don't think there is a strong argument to be made that we should impose archiving on an editor in good standing, IP editor or not, for as long as it's clear that this IP address is being used by the same individual. Is there a policy about imposed archiving that I'm not aware of? OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:35, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- I did not feel the need to make a complaint at ANI, Pigsonthewing, nor is it really necessary to remind me that I don't own this page. But it does seem that rather than respecting my request, you prefer to lecture me on the length of the page, and perhaps believe you exercise a sort of dominion over it as a registered account. Thank you, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:00, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
No idea why I got knocked offline today
But here we are. Thank you for reverting the archives, JJMC89. 2601:188:180:B8E0:D4AF:915C:881B:20AE (talk) 03:36, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
No luck at AIV or ANI
Is there some reason WVT96 (talk · contribs) should not be blocked? Because reports at two noticeboards have been ignored. Drmies, ToBeFree, thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:43, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm yes, no, maybe; the only reason is that they seem to want to do something good. It's a matter of competence, IMO, and I've given them an opportunity to prove they have a modicum of that. If not, it's CIR. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:36, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Understood--my assumption of good faith ran dry after five edits, then there were the inane deletion nominations. Either CIR or intentionally disruptive. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:20, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Trying to become autoconfirmed, then testing Twinkle. Drmies' message on their talk page is perfect, let's see what happens. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:04, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- User:ToBeFree, I appreciate that. I usually agree with our IP friend, and it happens often enough that whoever picks it up at AIV doesn't see it their (and my) way. I think that's one of the things that made me want to run for admin. In this case, I see it a little different, but not much. BTW I ran CU on that sock I just blocked even before I saw there was an SPI; they were just so obviously that Derbyboy or whatever, who's not just a sock but also a not very smart sock. Along the way I threw out a few hardblocks as well. Anyway, thanks for blocking them for two weeks for that disruption; we shouldn't have patience with that kind of nonsense. Drmies (talk) 19:22, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi Drmies, you've come across this bio before; I just saw it for the first time. I've requested a block of Chrismyerssports (talk · contribs) for the user name alone. The edit history has this gem, among others [78]. Should have been blocked seven years ago. And though I started on it last night, the article needs more clean up. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:24, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 16:00, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Literary blood
I've got something a bit more esoteric for you, Drmies, which may be right up your alley. Kakostratos (talk · contribs) appears to be (Redacted). Lately he's decided to go after Emily Wilson (classicist), presumably to avenge some criticism in print [79]; [80]; [81]. I think the self promotion, threats and personal attacks are worthy of a block, and probably a bit of rev/deletion. Your thoughts welcome. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:53, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- I read her Odyssey: highly recommended. Drmies (talk) 17:12, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Holy fucking shit. Drmies (talk) 17:17, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- This is what I'm saying. Thank you. By the way, is there such a thing as a widely read, bad translation of the Odyssey? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:43, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know; I'm no expert. Wilson is! There are widely "read" translations of many poems--used by undergraduate students all over the country who don't want to buy the book and so they read Dante in Longfellow's translation, free of copyright and free on the internet... Drmies (talk) 18:07, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, despite the shitty posting made by that account, we still shouldn't be linking to real-life figures unless they've disclosed. Primefac (talk) 01:08, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know; I'm no expert. Wilson is! There are widely "read" translations of many poems--used by undergraduate students all over the country who don't want to buy the book and so they read Dante in Longfellow's translation, free of copyright and free on the internet... Drmies (talk) 18:07, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- This is what I'm saying. Thank you. By the way, is there such a thing as a widely read, bad translation of the Odyssey? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:43, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
To talk page stalking admins, the problems with this are obvious, but perhaps we can make sure that the previous redirect will be restored once this promo is deleted. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:17, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- And while we're at it, Amelia Vega. I still post to noticeboards, but they are increasingly toothless. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:23, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hey so Im not sure what I am doing wrong here but I am a film student and if you could direct me in adjusting or fixing the issues present? I found about 30 other interviews or video or blog or paper articles but I tried my best to make an interesting articles like what I see on other people? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Archsurfing (talk • contribs) 01:37, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Archsurfing: You said on Talk:Matthew Austin that it's frustrating to do all that, and have it reverted. Well, it was frustrating for all the rest of us to spend all this time trying to fix it and trying to talk to you, and have you ignore every word we said. You ignored all my direct questioning comments, and ignored everyone's instructions, on that Talk page and this one. We have clearly told you how blatantly promotional and flowery the article's words are WP:SUBJECTIVE and you said basically "no it isn't". Okay! WP:ICANTHEARYOU. — Smuckola(talk) 19:37, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Smuckola, no reason to bring this up now. It's done, and I don't feel like reopening the discussion here. Thank you, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:50, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Given the most recent exchange, Smuckola, I've opened discussion at ANI [82]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:05, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- Smuckola, no reason to bring this up now. It's done, and I don't feel like reopening the discussion here. Thank you, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:50, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Archsurfing: You said on Talk:Matthew Austin that it's frustrating to do all that, and have it reverted. Well, it was frustrating for all the rest of us to spend all this time trying to fix it and trying to talk to you, and have you ignore every word we said. You ignored all my direct questioning comments, and ignored everyone's instructions, on that Talk page and this one. We have clearly told you how blatantly promotional and flowery the article's words are WP:SUBJECTIVE and you said basically "no it isn't". Okay! WP:ICANTHEARYOU. — Smuckola(talk) 19:37, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I agree with the G11 tag on Matthew Austin so I've removed it for now. You're definitely right in saying that it's got some promotional undertones, but it's not written in such a manner that it's only there to promote the topic. I'm not sure if IPs can start AfDs, but I suggest that's the next avenue we look at. Anarchyte (talk • work) 12:03, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Anarchyte. I do think it crosses the line to a speedy rationale; the first sentence is Matthew Austin is an American producer and entrepreneur, having founded and led brands in the e-commerce, outdoor retail, CPG, and alcoholic beverage spaces, based in New York, NY. That's a red flag to me. It continues to
He was a walk-on on his college golf team; He is the cousin of producers and entrepreneurs Roman Dent and Ashleigh Snead, and nephew of American Healthcare Executive Thompson Dent; After completing his masters degree, Matthew started consulting at an e-commerce based outdoor business before being hired full time to expand the business and implement a growth strategy. The company became the largest privately held e-commerce fly fishing company in the United States. He left his position as director of E-commerce, Brand, and Strategy in 2017 to continue pursuing his developing business in CPG; The business quickly grew in to one of the most innovative west coast darlings in the alcoholic beverage space and gained acclaim not only for their quality of product but the creation and implementation of core brand values tied to Matthews lifestyle; Matthew simultaneously served on The Board of The San Diego Crew Classic as a marketing and strategy consultant as well as a producer of the event. It annually sees a gate of over 12,000 people throughout the weekend and has become the premiere spring rowing regatta since its founding in 1973. The Crew Classic is largest regatta on the West Coast and includes competitors from the olympic team as well as the best of high school and collegiate teams from around the country; After exiting his startup in 2020 and because of his passion for building visual stories, Matthew launched a production company. Having previously produced, assistant directed, and co-writen the multi-award winning film "CARPLAND" which won Drake Magazine Movie Of The Year, Fly Fishing Film Tour 1st Prize, Orvis Feature Friday Film.
- I've removed the accompanying cites, but nearly the whole article is a vanity/promo. I'd encourage someone to AFD this. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:40, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- I do agree that it is promotional, I'm just hesitant that it would require speedy deletion as we could have definitely removed content to make it encyclopedic (though one may argue that needing to do so would in and of itself meet G11). I've gone ahead and reverted it back to a redirect as I don't think we need to waste 7 days just to get to a "redirect" result. Have a great day, Anarchyte (talk • work) 14:56, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:58, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- I do agree that it is promotional, I'm just hesitant that it would require speedy deletion as we could have definitely removed content to make it encyclopedic (though one may argue that needing to do so would in and of itself meet G11). I've gone ahead and reverted it back to a redirect as I don't think we need to waste 7 days just to get to a "redirect" result. Have a great day, Anarchyte (talk • work) 14:56, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
More eyes on this, please, for edit warring, content issues, and ensuing personal attacks. Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:33, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'll take a look. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:46, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks both. There's a history of warnings for personal attacks. Tonight's addition to the lexicon was telling another editor they have shit for brains. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- LOL ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:50, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- My experience is that an editor has to be very valuable not to get blocked for such. And even then. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:51, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- I reverted one editor's commentary on the talk page and warned them. They really went too far. Drmies (talk) 20:52, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- My experience is that an editor has to be very valuable not to get blocked for such. And even then. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:51, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- LOL ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:50, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks both. There's a history of warnings for personal attacks. Tonight's addition to the lexicon was telling another editor they have shit for brains. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Drmies and deepfriedokra, I'm not clear why BostonBowTie (talk · contribs), who was blocked for persistent personal attacks on other users who contradicted their legal expertise, was granted a name change and allowed to resume editing. There's a reason they've tried to wipe clean their edit history [83]. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:57, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- User was WP:VANISH'd. Returning with a different account is not a proviso of VANISH. It is block evasion and sock puppetry. What account are they using , please? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:00, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Deepfriedokra, VanishedUser agj3aionka17alhnalhm (talk · contribs). Apparently they requested a name change hours after Drmies' block. I can hunt up the diffs of their behavior, if needed. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:03, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- They have not edited since I renamed. The block should have followed the account rename. I reblocked to be sure. Yes, please provide difs. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:07, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- I renamed 2021-03-21T07:31:53 . I see no edits afterward. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:11, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- I see what you're saying, Deepfriedokra. The diffs I was thinking of were those preceding the block. Why would an account blocked for behavioral reasons--rather than an inappropriate user name--request a name change, if not to evade the block? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:15, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- To answer my own question, as an attempt to expunge their edit history. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:19, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- I renamed 2021-03-21T07:31:53 . I see no edits afterward. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:11, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- They have not edited since I renamed. The block should have followed the account rename. I reblocked to be sure. Yes, please provide difs. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:07, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Deepfriedokra, VanishedUser agj3aionka17alhnalhm (talk · contribs). Apparently they requested a name change hours after Drmies' block. I can hunt up the diffs of their behavior, if needed. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:03, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- User was WP:VANISH'd. Returning with a different account is not a proviso of VANISH. It is block evasion and sock puppetry. What account are they using , please? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:00, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
For want of a vernacular term that might not be appropriate here, their feelings are hurt (go figure). They are figuratively giving us the finger. The ultimate rage quit. As to the expungement, I know through biter experience that rename/vanish ain't all it's cracked up to be. Your edit history remains. Your old signature remains on talk pages. Your user talk page is there. (This is why we do not delete user talk pages.) People will track you down. It is not worth the (minimal) effort. Because of the (colorful metaphor) nature of their leaving, I doubt they will return. If they do return with their incivility and arrogance intact, they'll be quickly spotted and reblocked. (Again, I doubt this.) Best, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:46, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Deepfriedokra, I just read the first sentence or two of WP:VANISH this morning, and saw A courtesy vanishing may be implemented when a user in good standing decides not to return. 'Good standing' being the operative words. My money is on a return--the righteous certainty of intellectual superiority is not easily relinquished. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:52, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- I considered that, and weighed it against the rage in the request. I actually slept on it. Though you have a point. I could revert as the action is clearly not uncontroversial. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:55, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Actually, I cannot see they were ever blocked. Merely warned. Still. Under a cloud. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:09, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Then that was my mistake, Deepfriedokra. Drmies issued a warning, but didn't block. And that explains why they were able to request a name change. Accepting slaps with dead fish here. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:20, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- And if I were not senile, I would have remembered the lack of a block being a factor. Still. Under a cloud. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:23, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, great. Herein, two editors publicly expose their senility. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:31, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- And if I were not senile, I would have remembered the lack of a block being a factor. Still. Under a cloud. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:23, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Then that was my mistake, Deepfriedokra. Drmies issued a warning, but didn't block. And that explains why they were able to request a name change. Accepting slaps with dead fish here. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:20, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Actually, I cannot see they were ever blocked. Merely warned. Still. Under a cloud. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:09, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
LOL. No, really. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:49, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Tiffany Shlain and related articles
Tiffany Shlain, Character Day, Technology Shabbat and Hugo Van Vuuren appear to share a dedicated public relations crew. Ms. Shlain is notable, but her bio is a bit of a press release. Are the two spin-off articles about terms she invented credible as stand-alones? Lastly, is Mr. Van Vuuren notable? His most notable coverage appears to be about a business debacle and court case [84]. There may be more related pieces, but these are enough questions for now. At your leisure, thoughts welcome, Drmies, Melcous and Ohnoitsjamie. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:10, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Add International Academy of Digital Arts and Sciences to the public relations style mix. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:18, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- And Jordan Shlain, and Kimberly Brooks (artist), and Adele Goldberg (linguist). The first two were written by a paid editor. Drmies (talk) 20:35, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Drmies. I saw that someone has nominated the COI template for deletion, which is about as ill-advised a proposal as I can imagine. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:58, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah I saw that too, and figured it might be something technical, but hadn't yet looked at it. I'm looking at a few socks now; you may have seen User:JJMC89's deletions in Recent changes. They're doing a great and tedious job. Some people desperately need hobbies, and it would be SO good for us if we weren't their hobby. Drmies (talk) 22:02, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Drmies. I saw that someone has nominated the COI template for deletion, which is about as ill-advised a proposal as I can imagine. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:58, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Add 50/50 Day, Drmies. There's been a productive public relations effort at these articles. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:37, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- It seems someone nominated that for speedy deletion, and I thought that they had a valid reason: it was a press release, with some added names. Drmies (talk) 23:42, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- That was me, Drmies. And I left a COI message at the dormant account responsible for some of these. Thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:43, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oh that was you? Well well. I would have never guessed. Drmies (talk) 23:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Kimberly Brooks (artist), another professional quality press release. I don't know how to trim the five review blurbs to one or two without being accused of vandalism. Any tips? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Melcous. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:49, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Kimberly Brooks (artist), another professional quality press release. I don't know how to trim the five review blurbs to one or two without being accused of vandalism. Any tips? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oh that was you? Well well. I would have never guessed. Drmies (talk) 23:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- That was me, Drmies. And I left a COI message at the dormant account responsible for some of these. Thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:43, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Regents
Can you share me a source to the Watson work that New York Regents Examinations was copied from so i can replace adequately? Thanks Chutyo (talk) 19:45, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Edit: nevermind, i found it --Chutyo (talk) 20:04, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Don't know where to begin with this unsourced mess, other than cutting it way back. I'm also thinking there may be some copied content here, as at [85]. ToBeFree, Ohnoitsjamie, your thoughts? I'm trying to give Drmies the afternoon off. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:16, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the notification, feel free to continue. If revisions need deletion, please add {{copyvio-revdel}} and someone will have a look; I guess removing most content also resolves most problems in this case. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:29, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, ToBeFree. I went out for a walk, came back, and saw your work. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:18, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome back and thanks :) I'll call it a day ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:19, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Articles like that are tricky; given how long the label has been defunct, it's challenging to find decent sources, but on the other hand it'd be a shame to not have some coverage of it in an encyclopedia. I'm not sure if I'd add anything to ToBeFree's fine work; normally I might challenge a statement like Record collectors often find Fortune's numbering system confusing, but on the other hand it sounds plausible enough. I also tend to go a little easier on the "external links" sections of articles like this, given the dearth of good sources. OhNoitsJamie Talk 13:57, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, Ohnoitsjamie. On my walk, I also thought about the article as a record (no pun intended) of a very narrow slice of Black American artistic culture, and felt uneasy about the prospect of pruning too zealously. ToBeFree made a good call in cutting long unsourced lists, while keeping the history. Probably a copyright check is in order for what remains, though. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
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I'm not sure if I'd add anything to ToBeFree's fine work
;good call
– smiling happily, thank you very much ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:57, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Yes, Ohnoitsjamie. On my walk, I also thought about the article as a record (no pun intended) of a very narrow slice of Black American artistic culture, and felt uneasy about the prospect of pruning too zealously. ToBeFree made a good call in cutting long unsourced lists, while keeping the history. Probably a copyright check is in order for what remains, though. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Articles like that are tricky; given how long the label has been defunct, it's challenging to find decent sources, but on the other hand it'd be a shame to not have some coverage of it in an encyclopedia. I'm not sure if I'd add anything to ToBeFree's fine work; normally I might challenge a statement like Record collectors often find Fortune's numbering system confusing, but on the other hand it sounds plausible enough. I also tend to go a little easier on the "external links" sections of articles like this, given the dearth of good sources. OhNoitsJamie Talk 13:57, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome back and thanks :) I'll call it a day ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:19, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, ToBeFree. I went out for a walk, came back, and saw your work. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:18, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Cleanup in multiple aisles
Pretty much everything Diamondcowgirl10 (talk · contribs) added to several articles was copied from various horse publications. Ohnoitsjamie, ToBeFree, have a look when so inclined. Rev/deletion suggested. And thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:08, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you for this [86], Drmies. In Wikipedia, there's no righteous indignation quite like that of a promotional user who's denied having their way. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:43, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Use in crime and mass shootings
I removed it because it wasn't there before. And your title is saying a crime and mass shootings are two different things when in fact a mass shooting is a crime which consist of 4 victims or more whether they are injured or fatal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradychuck01 (talk • contribs) 03:24, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi. First, I don't think I understand your rationale. Second, it's not 'my title,' and there's nothing contradictory about combining crimes and mass shootings, though you're welcome to suggest a better header. Either way, that doesn't justify blanking the content in the section. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:27, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Leo,Dottavio
Hi, can you please explain to me why you keep deleting his page? The sources cited are references to his work. The biographical information was provided by Leo himself. I do not understand the problem. Rondavanmeter (talk) 03:33, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Of course. It's been explained by several editors that none of those sources are WP:RELIABLE. Without reliable sources you can not construct an acceptable article, one that establishes WP:NOTABILITY. Nor can we accept content provided by the subject, unless it's been published in another, credible source. Multiple editors have redirected, with good reason. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:36, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Must have lost Wifi overnight
It rained, lightly. That's all it takes to bump me off the default IP. 2601:188:180:B8E0:7130:35DC:CC52:CA3E (talk) 16:46, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Richard Shelton (actor), redux
Drmies, maybe it's time to lock the page. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:B9E6:B41C:7BA4:6706 (talk) 14:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:B9E6:B41C:7BA4:6706 (talk) 19:38, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
It's windy this morning
So of course the power flickered overnight. Hence the temporary IP. The charms of rural living. 2601:188:180:B8E0:8492:9814:AE10:6C0E (talk) 14:59, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- And this afternoon. Power keeps disconnecting. 2601:188:180:B8E0:7DC2:5E6F:B125:98F1 (talk) 23:49, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Porpoise, Harbor porpoise and many related articles
Are being vandalized by someone using multiple accounts, primarily in the 2600:100F:B range from Seattle. Is it too large a range to block? Ohnoitsjamie, ToBeFree and Drmies, thanks for taking a moment. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:7DC2:5E6F:B125:98F1 (talk) 04:04, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- I blocked a range that doesn't have all the IPs in there, but it has most of them, I think. Thanks for noticing. Drmies (talk) 04:10, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's a good start. If the disruption continues perhaps we'll be able to pinpoint a related range. Thank you! 2601:188:180:B8E0:7DC2:5E6F:B125:98F1 (talk) 04:20, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- By the way, Drmies, I hope the last hellacious series of storms missed your area. 2601:188:180:B8E0:7DC2:5E6F:B125:98F1 (talk) 04:22, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- I see a /41 range that will hit a lot of them; a partial block would avoid some collateral. Adding them to my watchlist. OhNoitsJamie Talk 04:26, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- I blocked the /42 range, but if you think yours is better, go for it. Yes, it missed us, thanks; it dumped a whole bunch of water all over the area. The Blackwater River (we were camping in the state park) was three feet higher, and the remnants of the storm gave us 4-5 foot waves in the Gulf. Quite spectacular. Drmies (talk) 04:47, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Brilliant. Thank you both. And stay away from high water. Just in general. 2601:188:180:B8E0:7DC2:5E6F:B125:98F1 (talk) 12:58, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping and dealing with this :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:41, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Brilliant. Thank you both. And stay away from high water. Just in general. 2601:188:180:B8E0:7DC2:5E6F:B125:98F1 (talk) 12:58, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- I blocked the /42 range, but if you think yours is better, go for it. Yes, it missed us, thanks; it dumped a whole bunch of water all over the area. The Blackwater River (we were camping in the state park) was three feet higher, and the remnants of the storm gave us 4-5 foot waves in the Gulf. Quite spectacular. Drmies (talk) 04:47, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- I see a /41 range that will hit a lot of them; a partial block would avoid some collateral. Adding them to my watchlist. OhNoitsJamie Talk 04:26, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- By the way, Drmies, I hope the last hellacious series of storms missed your area. 2601:188:180:B8E0:7DC2:5E6F:B125:98F1 (talk) 04:22, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's a good start. If the disruption continues perhaps we'll be able to pinpoint a related range. Thank you! 2601:188:180:B8E0:7DC2:5E6F:B125:98F1 (talk) 04:20, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Admin
You should be an administrator. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Chicdat. I would be of limited value in that capacity. 2601:188:180:B8E0:7DC2:5E6F:B125:98F1 (talk) 13:00, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- You changed your IP. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 13:07, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- See my posts immediately above. 2601:188:180:B8E0:7DC2:5E6F:B125:98F1 (talk) 13:23, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I see. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 13:25, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- See my posts immediately above. 2601:188:180:B8E0:7DC2:5E6F:B125:98F1 (talk) 13:23, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- You changed your IP. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 13:07, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Re
The pleasure is mine; I find that Wikipedia is a more fun place when people try to add a bit of humor to things. Glad someone else appreciated it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:00, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Probably Lenny Bruce would have had a few choice words, The Blade of the Northern Lights. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:43, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Doubtless he would, and deservedly so; unfortunate how his life was cut so short but he at least lived it hard. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Indeed. And he wore a beard, proudly. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:41, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- And at a time when it was extremely unpopular to do so; DisneyWorld used to not allow men with long hair or beards in, and had some snotty "family values" statement to read off. As a man with both, I appreciate those who came before me to make it somewhat less stigmatizing. As one person said, "Lenny Bruce didn't 'go there', he invented there." The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- When I was a kid, part of the glamour of Joe Namath were the beard and mustache. I can't do the long hair anymore, but still favor a beard, right into the graying twilight. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- And at a time when it was extremely unpopular to do so; DisneyWorld used to not allow men with long hair or beards in, and had some snotty "family values" statement to read off. As a man with both, I appreciate those who came before me to make it somewhat less stigmatizing. As one person said, "Lenny Bruce didn't 'go there', he invented there." The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Indeed. And he wore a beard, proudly. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:41, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Doubtless he would, and deservedly so; unfortunate how his life was cut so short but he at least lived it hard. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie, I reported one IP to AIV, and someone else opened a report at ANI. Crickets. Besides some blocks, this could use page protection. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:51, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Endeavoring to take leave
If only for a few days. The compulsion to remove vandalism, promotion and defamatory content is neutralized by the death of reliable support at AIV; valid reports languish for hours until they're removed by a bot. My assumption is that we have fewer admins, or they've lost interest in this part of the volunteer work. Users like me rely on them not only for cover, but to assist in shoring up the integrity and reliability of the site. For the last few months that cover has markedly diminished, and there's no percentage in continuing as if the support is there. My very real gratitude to the admins who have responded to my direct appeals here, but it's surely a bother to you, and something has gone amiss when I take to using this page as a substitute for the noticeboards. I'll surely return soon, but suspect that doing so will be increasingly frustrating, and a waste of time. Thanks and cheers. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:36, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- (ANI wasn't exactly offering hope, either. My request there for rev/deletion of these edits, directed at me, [87], [88] were ignored). 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:44, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- For me, a couple dozen edits in two weeks is a leave of absence. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:30, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Edit War
This is bradychuck01 I created a section on Starlink to show the world what countries Starlink is currently being by the public as their main internet. But you keep adding counties when if you order a Starlink dish you won't get it to your mail countries you can't get Internet services using Starlink. You want to add future counties well you have to create your own section. Because you're lying to the world telling them they have access to Starlink and can receive internet from Starlink. You're not going to win this edit war I'm not going to let you. Starlink is only available in 5 countries. And in the future SpaceX will expand Starlink to more than 5 countries.
- I haven't touched this article in weeks, and you are indeed the user who is edit warring. Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie, perhaps you can have a look at this editor's history. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:28, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- I hope they have proper punctuation in their history. Drmies (talk) 00:56, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- As if. They've already attempted block evasion, with predictable results. I call it aggressive incompetence. And thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:37, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- I hope they have proper punctuation in their history. Drmies (talk) 00:56, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Help here would be appreciated. Persistent removal of sourced content, apparently by the lead singer. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:DCFF:BEEA:E5A0:8779 (talk) 02:29, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Trying to do anything here is a pain in the ass. ToBeFree or Ohnoitsjamie, could you rev/delete the vandalism? My report at ANI was deleted by a non-admin for drawing attention to racist vandalism [89]. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:42, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- @2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63, Liz has rev/deleted the edit. aeschyIus (talk) 03:44, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Requesting revision deletion
Hi. When requesting revision deletion or suppression, it should be done so privately. When it is done on a public noticeboard, it draws unwanted attention to the material in a phenomenon known as the Streisand effect. For oversight, you can use
these methods. For revision deletion, you can connect to #wikipedia-en-revdel connect and request it. That way, only admins can see your request. Thanks, aeschyIus (talk) 03:42, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
A toast sandwich for you!
Thanks. jp×g 20:22, 26 April 2021 (UTC) |
- Thank you. Mmm, toast, on toast. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:02, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- Have you considered making an account (I was probably as stubborn as you before getting one)? It greatly helps stuff like communication; and it also facilitates lots of stuff when you are dealing with vandalism (via tools such as WP:RW and WP:TW). Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs)
- RandomCanadian, that question has been answered a number of times on this talk page. SubjectiveNotability a GN franchise (talk to the boss) 14:47, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- GeneralNotability, much appreciated. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:12, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- RandomCanadian, that question has been answered a number of times on this talk page. SubjectiveNotability a GN franchise (talk to the boss) 14:47, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi, My appology for placing the warning message on your talk page. It was supposed to be placed on User:174.251.172.80 but somehow, I might have pointed the cursor to your edit instead of the other editor. Once again, mistake is mine and sorry for the inconvenience. Stay safe. Cassiopeia(talk) 04:53, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- No harm done, Cassiopeia. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:05, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- thank you for the understanding. Once again my apologies. Cassiopeia(talk) 05:08, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- Cassiopeia, it happens, and too often. The difference is you took a few moments to leave a genuine note. It's an act of accountability, and is greatly appreciated. Be well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:37, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- thank you for your kind words. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia(talk) 23:57, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- Cassiopeia, it happens, and too often. The difference is you took a few moments to leave a genuine note. It's an act of accountability, and is greatly appreciated. Be well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:37, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- thank you for the understanding. Once again my apologies. Cassiopeia(talk) 05:08, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
May 2021
Your recent editing history at U.S. Route 66 shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Binksternet (talk) 08:49, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Bhandari (caste). This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Points to note:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Chariotrider555 (talk) 12:49, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ugh. Binksternet, I was one of multiple accounts engaged in removing linkspam to a non notable podcast added by a WP:SPA. That must have been clear to you, but if you concluded that a 3rr warning was merited, there's not much reason for discussion. Chariotrider555, my edits were reversion of vandalism. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie, ToBeFree, General Ization, good morning. This was a fine series of warnings to wake up to--could you take a few minutes and weigh in on whether they're merited for my edits to either article? I'm disappointed that neither of the disruptive accounts--the persistent linkspammer at Rt 66 nor the vandal at Bhandari--have been blocked. Rather, this looks like a bit of piling on for editing as an IP....while we're at it, I can't believe this [90] is allowed to drag on indefinitely. Open season for disruptive accounts, and I get warned twice. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:16, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- I wouldn't worry about the warnings; I'd say you were in the right both times, though I could see why an editor would be inclined to warn both participants in any subject involving Indian castes and ethnic groups; those are often complex content disputes, but in this case, I'd agree with you that it was disruptive, unexplained deletions of reasonable sources. If you're in doubt as to whether the simple vandalism/spam exception applies to reverts, I'd stop at 3, report, and wait for followup. OhNoitsJamie Talk 13:49, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Ohnoitsjamie. That's the protocol I followed--three reverts, reported to AIV and left a message for an admin who was involved [91]. At Bhandari, that the issue was vandalism rather than an explained content issue seemed clear, and there, too, I was supported by multiple other users in the reversions. As for gratuitous warnings, I'm not concerned, except that their validity is easily misconstrued after the fact by other drive-bys. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:00, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Serial Number 54129, hello and thank you [92]. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:28, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Anytime, '99; the decision was made for me when I saw the talk page was, err, 35X the word length of the article itself.... ——Serial 15:35, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for your explanation. I was aware you were trying to help by restoring the sourced content, but I wanted to warn you before you crossed the 3 revert line, and being an IP I was unaware about your awareness of the rule. Thank you, and have a good day. Chariotrider555 (talk) 15:30, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Ohnoitsjamie. That's the protocol I followed--three reverts, reported to AIV and left a message for an admin who was involved [91]. At Bhandari, that the issue was vandalism rather than an explained content issue seemed clear, and there, too, I was supported by multiple other users in the reversions. As for gratuitous warnings, I'm not concerned, except that their validity is easily misconstrued after the fact by other drive-bys. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:00, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping. Except for adding {{subst:GS/alert|sasg}} to User talk:Realfacts8802, there seems to be nothing left to do for now. And because the notice is so beautifully blue, you get one too.
- I wouldn't worry about the warnings; I'd say you were in the right both times, though I could see why an editor would be inclined to warn both participants in any subject involving Indian castes and ethnic groups; those are often complex content disputes, but in this case, I'd agree with you that it was disruptive, unexplained deletions of reasonable sources. If you're in doubt as to whether the simple vandalism/spam exception applies to reverts, I'd stop at 3, report, and wait for followup. OhNoitsJamie Talk 13:49, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Template:Z33It's rarely useful when dealing with new editors, as blocking disruption-only accounts causes much less drama than banning them, but these notices are a backup solution for the unlikely case that the editor goes silent for 3 months, edits other areas productively and then returns to caste disruption, in which case a topic ban can be issued (and be actually helpful) at any time, even without any further warning. So I personally would recommend adding this notice to any new editor's talk page as soon as they disrupt Wikipedia in sanctioned areas. It simply expands the administrator toolset that can be used to deal with future disruption. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
I'd AfD this if I could. Any takers? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:28, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- I've had a go :) Hope you're doing well. Melcous (talk) 05:54, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Melcous. You, too. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:24, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Perhaps some rev/deletion
Drmies, everything posted by 209.33.6.4 (talk · contribs). Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:39, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- Taken care of. Good work, thanks. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:49, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- WTF is wrong with these people. Thanks, and thank you, Malcolmxl5. Drmies (talk) 01:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, where to begin. Just look at the account I'm reverting now--a fixation on vandalizing articles about once-anonymous murder victims. There's all manner of bent out there. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:25, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm. They are not a good writer. "Incompetence" should be one of the options in the blocking menu. Drmies (talk) 01:34, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- May have meant well, but as you say, competence impaired enough to make intent opaque. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:36, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm. They are not a good writer. "Incompetence" should be one of the options in the blocking menu. Drmies (talk) 01:34, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, where to begin. Just look at the account I'm reverting now--a fixation on vandalizing articles about once-anonymous murder victims. There's all manner of bent out there. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:25, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- WTF is wrong with these people. Thanks, and thank you, Malcolmxl5. Drmies (talk) 01:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, a lot of long term juvenile WP:BLP violations--perhaps page protection, and your discretion whether the insults merit rev/deletion. I'd offer that just because it's childish and depressingly lacking in creativity doesn't mean it isn't defamatory. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:23, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you sir. Drmies (talk) 13:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Artcraft Fluorescent Lighting Corporation
Any interest in taking a crack at Artcraft Fluorescent Lighting Corporation? It's a good-faith attempt, but needs a fair amount of cleanup, largely in WP:TONE and WP:SYNTH. OhNoitsJamie Talk 04:29, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- I started modestly, Ohnoitsjamie, but have questions about whether any of the private papers are acceptable as sources. If I go in as an IP, it might be viewed as disruptive. Hence, more eyes, like those of Drmies and Melcous will be welcome. I lean toward deeper cuts of content that relies on family sources and original research. There's a discussion at the talk page, which I don't think ever really touched upon the problems with WP:COI and first party sources. 2601:188:180:B8E0:903A:50EA:9998:F284 (talk) 16:22, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- I made a few edits and left a note on the talk page--99, I can't ping you from there, but I mentioned you as well. Take care, and good luck, haha. Drmies (talk) 16:59, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. Good explanation at article talk page, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:14, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- I made a few edits and left a note on the talk page--99, I can't ping you from there, but I mentioned you as well. Take care, and good luck, haha. Drmies (talk) 16:59, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
In part, each was disfigured by the same account, so WP:COI is a good bet. Both are poorly sourced, promotional and rife with copyright violations that may go back years. Before I start to cut the fat from either, a copyvio check and reversion to last good versions would be preferable. Ohnoitsjamie, Drmies, only when you've got nothing better to do and have had a couple of drinks. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:53, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- For Winchester, I went back a ways and, ahem, cut a bit of content. But I've only had one cup of coffee so far. Drmies (talk) 14:47, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. It's not too early to spike the coffee. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:50, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
Placing this as a bookmark. A long, unsourced, poorly written promotional piece. No idea how to deal with this other than scrapping pretty much the whole thing. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:33, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- I gave it a try, but it's nap time. Drmies (talk) 17:42, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Well of course it is, assuming you did spike your coffee. Sometimes I don't know how academia runs without my counsel. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:05, 14 May 2021 (UT
This may be of interest to you
Talk: Craig Newmark and Dwightny7, an 8-week old single purpose account that implements cnewmark's requested changes. Pinging Nicmart. Sorry But (talk) 18:17, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- Why are you contacting me, rather than opening a report at, say, the WP:COI noticeboard? For a new account, you seem well versed in the ways of Wikipedia. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:13, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
- Error in judgment on my part. I highly doubt that there is a COI. I have reversed my ping to Nicmart. Sorry But (talk) 01:59, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
A couple of promotional articles on books by the same author
I've started on these, but there's way too much space given to quoted reviews. Drmies, Melcous, this may be your specialty. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:49, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- They need to be rewritten, that's clear--but really the first thing that needs to be done is scrapping all those quotes. It's just a collection of blurbs. Can that be done without handling a very blunt axe? Drmies (talk) 14:26, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- My rule of thumb, Drmies, is to summarize the reception, include one or two short quotes and leave the cites in. I also try to read some of the reviews to make sure the blurbs aren't cherry-picked. A critical sentence or two will balance the compliments. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:53, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, this works, too [93]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:55, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, I'd suggest a block of Gulture (talk · contribs) for WP:COI and promotional username. [94] represents several of the subjects about whom they've written promotional articles. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:34, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- Wait. WTF? Drmies (talk) 16:16, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- OK. Blocked. I saw you two were at work tagging things. I deleted Michael Castleman since...well, it's obvious. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 16:38, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, thank you. A productive public relations account, undetected for many years. I haven't done a copyvio check, but imagine there's a lot of that in the history. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:23, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, I'd suggest a block of Gulture (talk · contribs) for WP:COI and promotional username. [94] represents several of the subjects about whom they've written promotional articles. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:34, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Woody Allen
I know we visited this a few months ago. Drmies, there may be multiple edits over the last few months with the same issue, the expected WP:BLP violations meriting rev/deletion. Hope you're well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:12, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- It may take me a bit to get to that: I will need to actually pay attention! Drmies (talk) 12:42, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- That's fine, Drmies. Just understand that a delayed response will effect your pay scale here. By the way, our first trip last week since the lockdown began, to Maine. Lots of really good lobster rolls. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:04, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Damn you and your lobster rolls! I still haven't had one. I hope you enjoyed. Drmies (talk) 17:14, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- The lobster was great. Thank you, Drmies, for taking the time to sift through all that crap. Have a great weekend. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:56, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- I sifted through some of it--not all of it, maybe. You're welcome, of course, and our thanks to you (I'm speaking on behalf of the WMF, haha). Drmies (talk) 01:23, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- The lobster was great. Thank you, Drmies, for taking the time to sift through all that crap. Have a great weekend. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:56, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Damn you and your lobster rolls! I still haven't had one. I hope you enjoyed. Drmies (talk) 17:14, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- That's fine, Drmies. Just understand that a delayed response will effect your pay scale here. By the way, our first trip last week since the lockdown began, to Maine. Lots of really good lobster rolls. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:04, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
COI editing at Brenda Heather-Latu and George Latu
Using several IPs, and possibly at least one registered account [95], Ms. Heather-Latu has claimed defamation and threatened a lawsuit. Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie, would you have a look and see if their complaints and revisions have merit, or conversely, whether a sanction is in order? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:43, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- What's the account? And I think 202.4.48.72 is not Heather-Latu, but rather Lolofie Taulealeausumai Enosa. Drmies (talk) 22:38, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- I was going by the previous IP from that range: [96]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:00, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, but I think there's two opposing parties on that range. But who do you think the account is? KoreanDragon? Drmies (talk) 23:48, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- I was going by the previous IP from that range: [96]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:00, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
WMF IP-masking proposal
I wonder whether you're aware of the WMF's proposal to hide IPs. It's being discussed here at Village Pump (WMF) and since I can't ping you, I thought I'd better note here that I mentioned you in my post; also, as someone has suggested, I may be being an idiot about this, and if so I'd rather a wise and kind editor like you be the one to explain my idiocy. Yngvadottir (talk) 09:01, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Yngvadottir, for the mention, and for dropping a note here. There seems to be a number of editors who wish to ban all IP involvement, period, which, from my experience, misses the point. When I'm looking for disruptive edits, I'm not interested in whether the accounts involved are registered; the assumption that IPs are inclined to be disruptive and that registered accounts are constructive is ignorant. I've explained my rationale many times: As the subject of a Wiki article and a much-published writer, I decided editing as an IP would provide a bit more anonymity than had my registered account, against possible amateur sleuths who might have malicious intent. Also, I sought to disassociate from the genre in which I'd done most of my editing while registered. Finally, I saw an advantage to dealing with vandals if they viewed me as an opaque target, which has been largely the case. Feel free to share these thoughts if you so wish. One thing you're surely not is an idiot. Very best, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:42, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, but my technical incompetence is legendary :-) After getting a pointed recommendation to take my concerns to Meta, I thought it over and decided I'd best not. As I said there, I don't know whether IPs can actually post on Meta, but I hope you share your perspective either at the Village Pump or on Meta. There are people who need to have it put right in front of them that there are constructive unregistered editors, and I wonder myself what you might have to say about the WMF's argument that public identification of IPs is a privacy violation and their intention to create masking identifiers. It seems to me they are giving you a choice of accepting a dorky moniker they assign to you or creating a string of throwaway accounts, and that they would be labeling this talk page a privacy violation ... but what do I know. All I know is what I said, that it would seem to preclude those of us unwilling to register as "vandal fighters" from interacting with IP editors as human beings, and that banning unregistered editors because the WMF has impaired our vandal response would be both unfair and harmful. I can't speak for you or other unregistered editors and don't fully understand the proposal. Yngvadottir (talk) 06:11, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Well, nobody one-ups me for technical illiteracy. Drmies, I'd appreciate your take--is the call to eliminate IP editing a substantial groundswell, or the advocacy of a half dozen zealots? If the former, I will weigh in. If the latter, I can let it slide. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:09, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't understand what that means at all. IPs will be masked? And only one year/500 edits accounts can see them? What does that mean, and how does that relate to banning IP editing? Drmies (talk) 17:15, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, I've been following this pretty closely. Per WMF decree, IPs will be mostly masked (sorta) for average users, with a special right created to look through the mask at the underlying IP, this right is supposed to be fairly uncommon and handed out to very trusted editors (who will probably have to sign off on some kind of non-disclosure a la the nonpublic information thing that CUOS/OTRS folks have to sign). I believe the expectation for how much it's given out will be more "edit filter helper" and less "rollbacker". To balance this, the WMF is also going to expose some WHOIS-like information about the IP under the mask to everyone. Some people believe that this is excessively complicated and will make our antivandalism efforts very difficult, and so are advocating for just tossing IP editing completely. SubjectiveNotability a GN franchise (talk to the boss) 17:29, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- GeneralNotability, thanks--that helps. I assume they have some reasons for that decree--I couldn't come up with one. I'm still very much on the fence about IP editing, and I might not be on the fence if it hadn't been for the very editor/human being on whose IP's talk page I'm writing this. But that WHOIS information, how helpful is that anyway? It used to place me in the next county over anyway, and then there's all those ... what are they called, those weird IPs that all come out of this one farm in Kansas or whatever. But while I have your ear, I heard that Apple's new privacy measures will masks IPs also, and so I was wondering if IP editors from iPhones and iMacs and all that would have their IP show up here. What do you know about that? Drmies (talk) 21:12, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, the official reason is quite vague, and involves a lot of handwaving and "Legal said so," see m:IP_Editing:_Privacy_Enhancement_and_Abuse_Mitigation#Motivation and m:IP_Editing:_Privacy_Enhancement_and_Abuse_Mitigation#Statement_from_the_Wikimedia_Foundation_Legal_department (which, imo, are rightly called out as bogus on the talk page - all the WMF has to do is tell Legal that they're allowed to discuss the motivations publicly). The information is a little more detailed than WHOIS, m:IP_Editing:_Privacy_Enhancement_and_Abuse_Mitigation/IP_Info_feature has a mockup of what they're thinking of right now for people without the view-IP right (and maybe something where they show the subnet to all registered editors, just not the individual IP? I'm kind of unclear on that). You're absolutely right about geolocation and other WHOIS being fairly iffy, and they're planning to use the Maxmind DB, which iirc is where basically all geolocation comes from anyway.
- As for the Apple thing - my understanding is that it's basically encrypting your Internet traffic and bouncing it through an Apple server and then a CDN server. Think "VPN but only works for Safari on newer Apple operating systems". According to this typoful article, at least some of the traffic is believed to be going through Fastly, Akamai, and CloudFlare. That's easy enough to deal with - all of those are very above-board services, so we should be able to just start blocking all of their IP ranges. Fastly and CloudFlare are currently tracked at User:AntiCompositeBot/ASNBlock and I'll ask about adding Akamai as well. The practical question, of course, is whether we want to hardblock (since this is an anonymizing proxy) or softblock (since this will potentially block a LOT of iPhone users...though given their choice of phone, they probably deserve it). GeneralNotability (talk) 22:01, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- OK, User:GeneralNotability, I think I understood a lot of what was going on there, except for the real technical stuff. Thanks for the link. And just for you I corrected a horrible grammatical error. IP (or, "99"), I honestly don't know if there's a groundswell or not--I haven't read the VP discussion, but I can tell you that on the lists that I'm on (Functionaries, CU, etc.) it is not a thing that really ever comes up, and there's certainly no one I know who's crusading for banning IP editors--at least not as far as I know them, you know what I mean? There's a thousand places on Wikipedia (and Meta) that I never see, and so it may be that someone I do know talks about that stuff somewhere over there--but I just don't know. Yngvadottir, now that I've read over that Meta page I do feel like I understand it a bit, so I appreciate your original post which led to my increased knowledge. I am not going to participate in those discussions, since I can barely grasp what I see, and since I don't think I would be able to change anything if it's something I don't like. My time is a bit too precious. Drmies (talk) 01:01, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't understand what that means at all. IPs will be masked? And only one year/500 edits accounts can see them? What does that mean, and how does that relate to banning IP editing? Drmies (talk) 17:15, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Well, nobody one-ups me for technical illiteracy. Drmies, I'd appreciate your take--is the call to eliminate IP editing a substantial groundswell, or the advocacy of a half dozen zealots? If the former, I will weigh in. If the latter, I can let it slide. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:09, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, but my technical incompetence is legendary :-) After getting a pointed recommendation to take my concerns to Meta, I thought it over and decided I'd best not. As I said there, I don't know whether IPs can actually post on Meta, but I hope you share your perspective either at the Village Pump or on Meta. There are people who need to have it put right in front of them that there are constructive unregistered editors, and I wonder myself what you might have to say about the WMF's argument that public identification of IPs is a privacy violation and their intention to create masking identifiers. It seems to me they are giving you a choice of accepting a dorky moniker they assign to you or creating a string of throwaway accounts, and that they would be labeling this talk page a privacy violation ... but what do I know. All I know is what I said, that it would seem to preclude those of us unwilling to register as "vandal fighters" from interacting with IP editors as human beings, and that banning unregistered editors because the WMF has impaired our vandal response would be both unfair and harmful. I can't speak for you or other unregistered editors and don't fully understand the proposal. Yngvadottir (talk) 06:11, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Rev/deletion requested. Drmies or GeneralNotability. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:45, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Already done--thank you, LuK3. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:47, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Not a problem, thanks to Drmies for the block. -- LuK3 (Talk) 00:50, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Copyright violations at Jesse Palter
Much of what I removed, both from today's COI edits and those going further back, was copied. Talk page stalking admins, perhaps you can do a little rev/deletion of the plagiarized promotional content. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:11, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Those partial blocks can really come in handy. Drmies (talk) 16:04, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Drmies or GeneralNotability, some assistance would be appreciated. Part of the COI editing here has included mass copypasting from the subject's personal website. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:00, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- What are we going to do with all these musicians and voice artists and stuff whose articles are nothing but listings? Drmies (talk) 15:56, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Perhaps trim when inadequately sourced, and cite WP:RESUME. The same when artists pad their entries with gallery exhibition history. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:23, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- If the recordings aren't themselves notable, ought we be listing them? WP:WTAF. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:24, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Drmies--looks like block evasion. A new registered account and an IP have taken an interest. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 12:24, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- If the recordings aren't themselves notable, ought we be listing them? WP:WTAF. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:24, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Perhaps trim when inadequately sourced, and cite WP:RESUME. The same when artists pad their entries with gallery exhibition history. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:23, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Persistent promotion in articles affiliated with De La Salle University
When you have a few minutes and can't find a lobster roll in Alabama, Drmies; Dean Martin Gomez (talk · contribs) is here largely to soapbox on behalf of the school's Christian ethics and God-based curriculum at this and related articles. It also looks like they use Manila IPs, and I wonder if they're a WP:LTA who's been blocked before, though I can't offer a specific link beyond behavior, i.e. persistent promotional disruption and not answering or engaging. I've given a level four warning, but they're way past that over the last month or two. I can add a bunch of diffs if necessary. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:04, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- There is now an easy solution for that kind of thing... Drmies (talk) 23:30, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- But that article is a gift that keeps on giving. Drmies (talk) 23:51, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yep. The selective block is a good tool, though I anticipate they'll continue at the other articles. I also think the other accounts that have glommed onto the same articles could use a coi message. My thanks to you and Melcous for the help. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:18, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- And what a mess at Ateneo–La Salle rivalry. So much can be cut....2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:22, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Article has long been overseen by the college's public relations department. Not egregious as such things go here, but this could use some administrative eyes, and perhaps a check to see if the promotional content I removed was a copyright violation. Drmies or esteemed talk page stalkers welcome. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:43, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- See User_talk:Audreylcapp. User made a good first step--but I don't see much reason to think that that business school is independently notable. Maybe Melcous has an opinion too. Drmies (talk) 16:41, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- I've seen. If the article is not eventually redirected, then it has to be watched for continuing COI issues. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:C1FD:886B:ECC1:8969 (talk) 19:57, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Speaking of COI platforms...Drmies or Melcous, this one could really use some attention. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:56, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- And perhaps a check to see if all those WP:SPAs are related. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:25, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Who is there besides Billywhite86? Drmies (talk) 16:15, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, Player825 (talk · contribs); Phillips895 (talk · contribs); AndrewNueberger (talk · contribs); Nateblack82 (talk · contribs); MargaretDrummond87 (talk · contribs). DGG was briefly involved in trying to clean this up last September. 2601:188:180:B8E0:C1FD:886B:ECC1:8969 (talk) 20:06, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- And Melcous, thank you! 2601:188:180:B8E0:C1FD:886B:ECC1:8969 (talk) 20:18, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- OK, I didn't see Margaret, but that's just one edit. Player825, I saw those edits--but this and especially this edit summary suggest we're dealing with a more neutral editor. HA AND THEN IT TURNS OUT I WAS WRONG--Player825 must be playing the bad hand sometimes. Ah well. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 21:01, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- No worries, it's always a pleasure working with you! Melcous (talk) 02:02, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, Player825 (talk · contribs); Phillips895 (talk · contribs); AndrewNueberger (talk · contribs); Nateblack82 (talk · contribs); MargaretDrummond87 (talk · contribs). DGG was briefly involved in trying to clean this up last September. 2601:188:180:B8E0:C1FD:886B:ECC1:8969 (talk) 20:06, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- Who is there besides Billywhite86? Drmies (talk) 16:15, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
(It certaninly does need attention. I proposed a merge a while ago with his books, but I haven;t had a chance to follow up. DGG ( talk ) 07:01, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Speedy deleted article
Hello, I have a question about the speedy deletion of the ARCH Production & Design NYC page. We made sure to bolster the article with references to other articles. How can we improve this content? Thank you!
- Kalysa17, I know nothing about that. But I see that I left you some messages back in March re: conflict of interest and promotional editing. It doesn't appear that you ever responded. Now you're referring to "we" editing an article. That you're working in concert with others, engaging in apparent WP:COI, and refuse to divulge your associations doesn't work on this platform. Under these circumstances, no experienced editor would make an effort to assist you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:C1FD:886B:ECC1:8969 (talk) 20:11, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Possible block evasion by St. Pete promotional account
Drmies, Diannaa, is it possible that Supersam67 (talk · contribs) is not Stpetestan (talk · contribs)? See edit history and promotional intent. And I haven't looked to see if there's any copyright issues. 2601:188:180:B8E0:C1FD:886B:ECC1:8969 (talk) 23:57, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yep, copyright violations, as at ZooTampa at Lowry Park. 2601:188:180:B8E0:C1FD:886B:ECC1:8969 (talk) 00:00, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- That got out of hand real quick: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Stpetestan. Drmies (talk) 00:20, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Cheezum, Drmies, and thank you. That's a terrible editor, determined to spread bilge. 2601:188:180:B8E0:C1FD:886B:ECC1:8969 (talk) 00:23, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- That got out of hand real quick: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Stpetestan. Drmies (talk) 00:20, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Admission of conflict of interest on Thomas Fellows
Hi,
I am writing to admit that I have a conflict of interest when it comes to Thomas Fellows. I’m his publicist.
I have insider knowledge that his new book will be getting more media coverage in the coming weeks and months. With that being said, can I feed you media articles and you put them on his page if you think it makes sense for them to go on there?
Sorry for not admitting this sooner. Makepeace222 (talk) 21:01, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Admission of conflict of interest on Thomas Fellows
Hi,
I am writing to admit that I have a conflict of interest when it comes to Thomas Fellows. I’m his publicist.
I have insider knowledge that his new book will be getting more media coverage in the coming weeks and months. With that being said, can I feed you media articles and you put them on his page if you think it makes sense for them to go on there?
Sorry for not admitting this sooner. Makepeace222 (talk) 21:03, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
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