Talk:African American–Jewish relations
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seems flawed
This article is full of modern perspectives being presented as truth. It just paraphrases perspectives and provides no historical substance. Is anything being done to remedy this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:3AD0:51D0:C9A0:176D:AAD1:24E8 (talk) 22:15, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
19th Century Section
It doesn't seem right that the colonial era of America and slaves should be part of the "Early 20th Century" section of the article. Perhaps we should designate a new section for pre-20th century historical background? ItsDaBunnyYT (talk) 03:15, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Should be deleted, written with a biased voice
This article focuses on Black antisemitism with a tiny stub about Jewish racism at the bottom. An article like this needs to be presented in a fair and balanced way. This is heavily slanted towards the POV of Jewish people as of right now
Update 11/11 So I tried to start a dialogue before deleting things but this entire article is written from the perspective of a Jewish person. What is and isn't included is heavily affected by selection bias and the work itself does not give a comprehensive representation of the subject. I'd argue it does more damage to understanding the subject than it does good. 2601:140:8B80:5F50:28D6:318B:1FB:1474 (talk) 19:05, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
Me again so this article is beyond repair. Its got a lot words that have no substance in terms of understanding the relationship between Jewish and Black Americans and doesn't quite understand the difference between African-American and Black Americans. The article proudly quotes Marcus Garvey, who was a prominent black scholar but was not African American so that confusion needs to be sorted out. I'm going to take some time to rewrite this and add FACTS and not conjecture. 2601:140:8B80:5F50:9D48:D176:1B18:C87F (talk) 19:39, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
I provided very clear edit summaries for why this article is extremely problematic. If you have an issue with that please bring it to the talk page and don't revert my work. I've been trying to have a civil discussion about this for a month. This page unacceptable as is. Numerous people have said that. 2601:140:8B80:5F50:90AA:E2AD:38A4:CC83 (talk) 23:34, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- I suggest adding viewpoints you feel are under-represented in the article but have good support among reliable sources. Often that is an easier approach than removing large sections of material. If you are set on removing material and it is contested (and it has been contested), then it is often a better approach to discuss that on the talk page (here) rather than in edit summaries (see Wikipedia:BRD). Freelance-frank (talk) 23:43, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- I am not bonded to the article but I am opposed in general to removing large chunks of referenced material. I echo Freelance-frank's opinion that addition of referenced, balanced material is a better option than deletion. Ifnord (talk) 23:47, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Reverting good faith edits - A change of this magnitude needs outside input, and I'm extremely concerned by the phrasing of "perspective of a jewish person" in previous edit summaries (RW 16.1) undo Tag: Rollback
Did you read this article before I edited it? There is a literally a line in it that speculates that a Black person actually committed a murder that a Jewish person was convicted for. How is that not biased POV? Why is that speculation allowed in a Wikipedia article? This is what I"m talking about. This is what I meant when I said "Jewish perspective" I understand why that phrasing might make someone defensive but to deny that an article writer can't have a clear bias towards one of the two subjects in this article is nonsensical and there is a clear bias. Please tag your other wiki friends so they can weigh in if you feel you can't be neutral yourself. 2601:140:8B80:5F50:90AA:E2AD:38A4:CC83 (talk) 23:51, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
There are two Black extremist groups (with a very small amount of members) included in this article and yet no Jewish ones.
This is what I meant when I said its written from a biased perspective.
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