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Britain had parts of France
If you are counting before the empire or even before Great Britain was formed than ignore this but England had a lot of territory in France during the 100 years war. The territory included Normandy and Anjou.
Thank you for reading. 79.64.4.61 (talk) 21:33, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think they ever did. Kings of England had territories in France which they had held before ascending the English throne. William the Conqueror for example was Duke of Normany before becoming King of England. This would put France in a similar category with Hanover, which was ruled by the Hanoverian kings but was not considered to be part of the Empire. TFD (talk) 23:47, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
- "England had a lot of territory in France"? I thought France had a lot of territory in England, with some claiming it still does. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 01:11, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
- I own several coins which show the French coat of arms imposed next to the Scottish/Irish/English ones, but the French coat of arms was removed 200 years ago when Britain dropped its claim to the French throne. --2A00:23C4:3E08:4000:14BC:1454:BB6C:619C (talk) 12:29, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
- "England had a lot of territory in France"? I thought France had a lot of territory in England, with some claiming it still does. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 01:11, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Upper Yaffa
Why is there no Upper Yaffa on the map? SPRVTL (talk) 15:47, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- it sort of is, as it will be part of the area covering the Aden protectorate.Slatersteven (talk) 16:04, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Wikilinks
I see that various Wikilinks seem to be re-added following a general purge of overlinking during the FAR review. Is this something we want to work on? WCMemail 10:02, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- A number of geographic links were added in this diff. Quite of a few of them seemed too broad (and the contemporary states were already linked), so I've removed most. Some are still left and you might want to link over them yourself as I'm not convinced the remaining ones are necessary either. More broadly, non-specific links (i.e. those not pointing to an event/state/war directly connected with the empire), such as slavery (Atlantic slave trade, Triangular trade and History of slavery are already linked), mortality rate, religious persecution etc.) could perhaps be cut. They might help readers with less general knowledge though, so it's a trade-off. Also, I can also see a few piped links that make their target unclear (e.g. "laden with treasure", "Parliament decreed in 1651", "while on a scientific voyage"), maybe the text should be adjusted slightly so their target is explicitly named? I don't think it'd take much work, so I'm happy to do this if you think it helpful. I've also removed a few duplicate links. All that said, as long as the links aid the reader I personally don't mind slightly heavier linking than normal, given that it's such a broad overview article. Jr8825 • Talk 13:31, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- I think a number of unhelpful changes were made because of that misbegotten FAR, including supposed 'overlinking'. In my view, in a large article, it's quite difficult to find the single permitted hyperlink for a given term that I want to follow up on. I then have to type it out, which is annoying. And more generally, in relation to the policy, removing hyperlinks kind of undermines one of the primary benefits of this whole 'internet' thingymajig... I don't think we should spend personal time being too pedantic about this. Wiki-Ed (talk) 22:36, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'm still fairly raw about the FAR myself but after we worked hard on getting this article to FA status I really don't want to let it slide. It's noticeable that those commenting on the FAR appear to have disappeared, I'm still waiting to be shown how to treat the topics it was claimed were needed. WCMemail 08:16, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
I have a map that is a more detailed list of territories that were ever conquered or claimed by the British no occupations are inculded — Preceding unsigned comment added by Universal Deus (talk • contribs) 03:44, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Infobox country should be added!
I suggest that an infobox country should be here, just like other colonial empires! 109.166.130.207 (talk) 08:13, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- No, its not appropriate, its been discussed many times before. So unless there is a compelling new argument, you will not get consensus. I would suggest you view the archives before making such a suggestion - note I assumed good faith and that you weren't just trolling. WCMemail 09:00, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed. Johnbod (talk) 15:44, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Ireland was not a colony
The only people who claim this are Irish Nationslists. Ireland was no more a colony of England or the UK than Hannover was, or England was an overseas colony of France. It is confusion medieval titles and holdings with colonial empires, it is completely misleading to include Ireland. 82.33.24.203 (talk) 10:36, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
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