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Lotuseaters

This topic is outdated. It contains nothing about his current main project the Lotuseaters. --Kajdron (talk) 15:18, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have seen no reliable coverage of this project, therefore it cannot be included. If you have some good sources, please feel free to list them on this talk page. SVTCobra 19:50, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What constitutes "reliable coverage." We have the primary source ^[1]. Here he is on a political youtube channel being titled "of lotus-eaters" ^[2]. Same here in a apple podcast ^[3]. Is that sufficient evidence? Or must we wait until more people acknowledge this website's existence? Piffner (talk) 15:53, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable secondary sources are needed. This is just as much about making sure that it is important encyclopedic content as it is to verify the information. Alduin2000 (talk) 21:07, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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There is no white supremacism promoted on Lotus Eaters

In the Lotus Eaters section of this page it mentions that he uses the platform to spread white supremacy. There is zero evidence for this provided and it is unfounded. Benjamin also won a US court case against Akilah Hughes in which she used this slander and the judge found there to be no backing. She had to pay all his legal fees. 86.14.147.13 (talk) 12:25, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the section, if others want to re-add please add citations to reliable secondary sources. Alduin2000 (talk) 13:33, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is Carl Benjamin Far Right?

the page from the outset describes Benjamin as far right, it then goes on to say (once the damage has been done) that many media outlets describe him as "far right", something he denis and he describes himself as classical liberal and a skeptic.

Since the page does not provide proof of the far right nature and Carl Benjamin himself has denied it, can it be removed until evidence is found? 84.67.13.0 (talk) 23:16, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The 'proof' is the cited sources. Click on the little numbers. MrOllie (talk) 23:25, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you think this guy is "far-right" that word has no meaning anymore. Lol.

This website is borderline a joke. The source for a political label isn't even a decent enumeration of his actual positions, just articles calling him far-right. It is, in fact, borderline a slur most of the time in practice. Globe Holder (talk) 17:09, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We do not expect sources to provide "a decent enumeration of his actual positions" because Wikipedia isn't supposed to be a platform for public relations. Specifically, Benjamin is not recognized as an expert on politics, so he is not reliable for the definition of far-right politics or "classical liberalism" or whatever. Therefor, we instead use reliable sources for these terms, and if Benjamin chooses to instead apply a boutique definition for PR purposes, so be it. Wikipedia has no obligation to humor him on this, however.

Calling this a "slur" misrepresents what the word slur means, and also why using a slur would be a problem. A slur isn't just any word that some people dislike. "Far-right" is not a slur in this context, since it accurately describes a political position and anything less precise would be euphemistic. (Which, ironically, the far-right might deride as 'political correctness'). Grayfell (talk) 21:58, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Carl Is Conservative not Far Right

Carl Benjamin is not far right, he is Conservative (right of centre) With many left/liberal views and beliefs.

He is frequently INCORRECTLY slurred with a "far right" branding when he is not. 2A02:C7F:5D48:1600:805:EB82:FF2A:1E59 (talk) 12:39, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.lotuseaters.com/author/carl-benjamin

[2] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3O-KnCZODA

[3] ttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/280-carl-benjamin-making-sense-of-2021s-madness/id1347973549?i=1000508156657

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