Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 20

December 20

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 20, 2022.

Jack Robichaux

Jack Robichaux → John Robichaux (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not a prominent name for the musician. I think the one mention of it in the AfD (about a different subject by the same name) may have just been a typo. In any event, it isn't widely used for the musician and doesn't appear in the article. It would be better to delete the redirect and reduce confusion with the Wikipedia hoax better known by this name. czar 20:25, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Foreign Policy Council

Foreign Policy Council → American Foreign Policy Council (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I nominated this version [1] for speedy deletion WP:G14 but @Justlettersandnumbers: redirected it to the current target. I don't think this is satisfactory: American Foreign Policy Council (AFPC) is not known as "Foreign Policy Council" and this redirect obscures the presence of other uses ([2]). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:20, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:24, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) OK, Shhhnotsoloud, please do with it as you will. It was not eligible for deletion as WP:G14 because it didn't meet any of the criteria (I'm so used to implicitly trusting your nominations in this area that I initially deleted it, and only afterwards decided that that had been a mistake). Specifically, the policy says "If a disambiguation page links to only one article and does not end in (disambiguation), it should be changed to a redirect". It's Neelix, so someone might be willing to delete it under WP:IAR. (Beeblebrox?) Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:41, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Justlettersandnumbers: I didn't mean any criticism of you; it clearly needs a discussion. Thanks, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:49, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tory party

Tory party → Tories (British political party) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not sure this is what most people who are going to search "Tory party" would be looking for here. More likely to refer to the Conservative Party (UK), but wary about redirecting there as other conservative political parties are known by this outside the UK. Perhaps Tory Party (disambiguation)? Gingermead (talk) 17:51, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Conservative Party (UK), of course, moving the current hatnote. There is Tory Party (disambiguation) but frankly I'm pretty dubious how often many of the list there are ever actually called "Tories" - the Coalition Avenir Québec for example. "Tory" is handily short for headline writers, and seems still to be used for some Canadian parties, but the Australian Liberals are "Libs". Johnbod (talk) 18:27, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have heard the Conservative Party of Canada called Tories quite often So at the very least one of the entires there is valid.--65.92.162.81 (talk) 22:43, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No doubt - but there are 27 Canadian parties listed. If they are all commonly called "Tories", which I don't believe for a moment, it must be super-confusing! Johnbod (talk) 17:23, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Richard

Prince Richard → Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

A minor royal, there's little evidence of a wp:primary topic. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 16:36, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguate to include current target and Richard of Shrewsbury, Duke of York. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:45, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dab as above DBD 18:47, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sanathana Sarathi

Sanathana Sarathi → List of titles and names of Krishna (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Sanathana Sarathi (title of Krishna) → List of titles and names of Krishna (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There is no mention of "Sanathana Sarathi" at the target, and without a mention these redirects are confusing. I can't see another reasonable target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:28, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Life of Christ

Life of Christ → Life of Jesus in the New Testament (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

A RM at Talk:Life of Christ in art#Requested move 8 December 2015 decided this redirect's current target; I disagree with this. The redirect should be retargetted to Life of Christ (disambiguation), because there is no primary topic for this title and it is the name of numerous works. I have already fixed all the incoming wikilinks. Veverve (talk) 15:00, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Veverve: if you think there is no primary topic for "Life of Christ" then this should be an WP:RM of Life of Christ (disambiguation) to Life of Christ, not an RfD. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:34, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Shhhnotsoloud: the closer at the 2015 RM said to take that redirect to WP:RFD if you feel strongly it should point elsewhere. Veverve (talk) 15:45, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Veverve: Yes, but Life of Christ cannot redirect to Life of Christ (disambiguation): it would be WP:MALPLACED. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:48, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The New Testament story is almost certainly the primary topic here. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:47, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Life of Jesus goes to a disam page - that one should go to Life of Jesus in the New Testament. Life of Christ is sufficiently different. Johnbod (talk) 17:16, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Both Jesus and Christ link to the same page. Therefore, Life of Jesus and Life of Christ should link to the same target. Veverve (talk) 02:01, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't really follow - in particular art is almost always "Life of Christ". Johnbod (talk) 17:08, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Move the dab page to the base name, possibly merge with Life of Jesus. Srnec (talk) 23:28, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Primary redirect. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:57, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Standard primary habitability

Standard primary habitability → List of potentially habitable exoplanets (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Standard Primary Habitability → List of potentially habitable exoplanets (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

The redirect target used to have information about this term: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_potentially_habitable_exoplanets&action=submit

But it's since been removed. I'm not sure if it's a term from a single source and thus not notable? -- Beland (talk) 10:52, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's a habitability metric formerly(?) used by a single source, the Planetary Habitability Laboratory - [3], [4]. It could potentially be mentioned in and retargeted to that article, but shouldn't be a redirect to the current target. SevenSpheres (talk) 15:38, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: For an opinion on the retarget suggestion. I have notified of this discussion at Talk:Planetary Habitability Laboratory as well.
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King Combs

King Combs → Diana (Pop Smoke song) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

King Combs is mentioned on 20 other articles on Wikipedia. There's no reason why, without an article, his name should redirect to this one song, which wouldn't even appear to be his most notable song, so delete until an article can be made. Ss112 03:50, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget: to Sean Combs#Family, although that Diddy has his son King, it should be retargeted to the father's page and not to this one song. --2600:1700:9BF3:220:88E:619E:9003:4C6E (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There's no mention of 'King' Combs there. Sean Combs's article doesn't really have a lot of information about his children. Ss112 08:46, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:RFD#D10. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:41, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Home and Love within India

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was speedy delete. This is the result of what shows every sign of being page move vandalism, and if it isn't then it was clearly some very strange kind of mistake; either way it qualifies for speedy deletion. Either as G3 or as G6. JBW (talk) 12:19, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Home and Love within India → Drought in India (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not sure what this is supposed to refer to but it definitely isn't in the page. Rusalkii (talk) 08:00, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: This was clearly created as a result of some page-move vandalism. I've now tagged this for speedy deletion per criterion WP:G3, which surely applies here. CycloneYoris ^talk! 09:34, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

South Melbourne Cecil Street

South Melbourne Cecil Street → South Melbourne (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention at target. Even when this was created (three days after being deleted at AFD, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Melbourne Cecil Street) there was only a passing mention, one I do not think justified a redirect. This street is mentioned in passing at South Melbourne market, and perhaps elsewhere, but I think deletion is best here. A7V2 (talk) 07:58, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Selective-sliding

Selective-sliding → Manual transmission#Crash gearbox (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

The current target section no-longer exists. I'm unsure if it would be best to target to some other section, or to target to Non-synchronous transmission (the target of crash gearbox) as this specific term isn't used in either article (nor was it used when the redirect was created) and I'm not even certain what exactly it is referring to, and if it is of the same type as a crash box. So perhaps deletion would be a better option. There is some usage (unhyphenated) on wikipedia in articles for older cars such as Locomobile Sportif and Chevrolet Light Six. A7V2 (talk) 08:31, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Loophole (1981 film)/Archive

Loophole (1981 film)/Archive → Loophole (1981 film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Was merged into the target in 2010. I don't see any obvious redlinks to move this to, so would suggest move without redirect to Talk:Loophole (1981 film)/Attribution/1 or suchlike, and tag with {{parallel version}}. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 06:00, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Tlou (tv series)

Tlou (tv series) → The Last of Us (TV series) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Unlikely abbreviation + capitalization combination Rusalkii (talk) 05:22, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, agree with nom, I don't see a point or any navigational benefit to this. I don't think as an initialism that it is used commonly enough, at least for the purposes of warranting a redirect, which as nom says isn't even formatted well. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:26, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: "Tlou" not mentioned. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:36, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, TLOU is a common abbreviation for The Last of Us. That the show wouldn't adopt it is silly thinking.Valkyrie Red (talk) 23:24, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sher Khan (2012 film)

Sher Khan (2012 film) → Salman Khan#Filmography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Sher Khan (2013 film) → Salman Khan filmography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Film does not exist. Redirect created in 2013 when it was reported but was never created. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:50, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sher Khan (2012 film) also pointing to the same target may be bundled with this. Jay 💬 18:23, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Jamie Peacock (actress)

Jamie Peacock (actress) → Kayzie Rogers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No evidence put forward that this is a suitable redirect - not mentioned in article. Boleyn (talk) 18:45, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Jamie Peacock appears to have been a pseudonym of Kayzie Rogers. See [5]] and [6] (see entry for Super Smash Bros Ultimate). Not sure if this can be verified by reliable sources, a quick look didn't turn any up but there are a lot of questionable ones all saying the same thing (eg [7], [8] etc). A7V2 (talk) 00:33, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Rubber Duck Entertainment (UK)

Rubber Duck Entertainment (UK) → Entertainment One (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in target. Searching indicates this was a division of Contender Entertainment - which itself has a brief mention as having been acquired by Entertainment One. Delete unless something is added. MB 05:05, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to List of home video companies#United Kingdom where the acquisition hierarchy is listed. I don't think the (UK) disambiguator is required, so move to Rubber Duck Entertainment without redirect first. Jay 💬 02:03, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Social Surfing

Social Surfing → Social networking service (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in target article or Social network, thus leaving it unclear the connection between the redirect and any respective target article. However, this redirect is a {{R with history}} that was formerly an article created in 2009 that was subject to a WP:BLAR in 2011 Steel1943 (talk) 20:52, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete due to the use of capital letters implying it's a name of sorts. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:11, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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TMTP

TMTP → Story of the Year (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Tmtp → Story of the Year (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in article. Appears to be an abbreviation for their album Tear Me To Pieces. Rusalkii (talk) 23:46, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not a notable acronym. I could not find any mention of the album being referred to as "TMTP" Roost ^T_C(ping me!) 06:39, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Parras characodon, which has a CoL identifier of TMTP, as a onwiki search reveals. (Judging from filenames, Tuen Mun Town Plaza may be a plausible target too.) Duckmather (talk) 19:44, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Tuen Mun Town Plaza which appears to be what most mentions in Enwiki refer to.Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:50, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment to closer. TMTP was not nominated but I suggest that what applies to Tmtp should also clearly apply to TMTP. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:53, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, retarget or disambiguate - Keep as a suitable acronym for album AND song with no other higher use, retarget or disambiguate. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:43, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Concept of ego

Concept of ego → Muhammad Iqbal’s concept of Khudi (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

General topic linking to specific philosopher's idea about it. Suggest delete or retarget to ego disambig page Rusalkii (talk) 00:06, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Ego.

Veverve (talk) 15:46, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Id, ego and super-ego#Ego, as that explains the psychological concept of "ego", which is clearly the primary topic. (I chose this as it's also the target of Ego (psychology).) However, "concept of" redirects tend to be kind of awkward and unnatural, so deleting this is also ok. Duckmather (talk) 21:43, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Id, ego and super-ego#Ego per Duckmather. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:11, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Id, ego and super-ego#Ego per Duckmather since the concept is discussed there. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:57, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]