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Whittlesea railway line
Hello @Onel5969. I've noticed that you reverted the edits from the Whittlesea railway line article. There actually was a discussion about this taking place, however, it wasn't on the talk page for that article. Instead, you can find the discussion on this page under the Mernda section of the archived discussions. Could you please revert the edits back to how it was when I split the article? Please let me know once you've reverted the edits. Thanks. HoHo3143 (talk) 01:12, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. That discussion should have been had on the talk page of the article, but I see why you would go ahead and make the split. However, when doing splits, please be sure to give attribution to the article being split from in the edit summary. That's important as per WP policy. Feel free to revert my edit, but please, provide attribution. Onel5969 TT me 01:28, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Onel5969 thanks for letting me know. I have absolutely no idea how to revert an edit, so could you please do it for me? Once you've done it I'll add a link to the talk page to the discussion page. HoHo3143 (talk) 01:33, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry I missed this, but it looks like the issue's been resolved. Onel5969 TT me 22:09, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Onel5969 thanks for letting me know. I have absolutely no idea how to revert an edit, so could you please do it for me? Once you've done it I'll add a link to the talk page to the discussion page. HoHo3143 (talk) 01:33, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
Need a help
I suspect there are several accounts as sockpuppets, and I’m not sure how to report for investigations. Worldgiant (talk) 06:59, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- The place to report suspected sockpuppets is WP:SPI. It gives directions there on what to do. Onel5969 TT me 22:10, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- Good day! Need your help in the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Khambakhadov_Saifullah You have previously used some serious mistakes that I made while installing this article. I ask you to check and change the status of the pack in the publication, due to the fact that I am making amendments User:Alterbulat
Speedy deletion declined: Igor Kogan
Hello Onel5969. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Igor Kogan, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: G4: not a repost - deleted article was userfied to User:ЖуковАФ/Igor Kogan. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:56, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Charlson Comorbidity Index
Hello Onel5969. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Charlson Comorbidity Index, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: G12: source copied content from Wikipedia. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:00, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. with no copyvio, the article looks good to go. Onel5969 TT me 22:10, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Dear colleague! Recently you reverted my attempt to write a minimal text for homeroom teacher. Now I afforded to insert the text again (modified and with two citations, to avoid a "zero sources" situation). I do not insist on my content and will agree if you completely change it, but to have a text instead of a redirect is important from semantic reasons - namely, in order to arrange interwikis ("homeroom": en, pl, ja; "homeroom teacher": en, hr, sv, uk, de, fr). SY, --Mikisavex (talk) 18:01, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Lists of Star Wars cast members (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
G14 "Lists of Star Wars cast members" (plural) is not ambiguous
Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.
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Saffron Barker
Hello Onel5969, I hope you're well.
I have noticed that you have redirected Saffron Barker's entry back to The Celebrity Circle.
However, I feel this was rather quick, and I seen nothing to suggest she was not notable. I understand the previous discussions from 2019 and 2021 as these were poorly-sourced with about 11 not very strong sources in the past, but that's why I created a new entry which took about five days, had over 100 sources - most of which were from notable publications - and a Creative Commons photo made public by a notable gymwear brand she has worked with.
I'm sure you'll understand my confusions for the redirect, especially as their was not even a discussion for Article for Deletion or redirect, and it had probably only been up for less than 10 hours in total.
Please can you explain if it would be possible for
a) It to go back up once again? and b) Why the decision was made?
I understand that this is probably the most detailed the page ever was, judging from its history.
I look forward to hearing back from you, and my frustrations are not with you yourself, just the article's sudden disappearance.
Best wishes, Mechanical Elephant (talk) 12:21, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Update: I understand that Ponyo was the person who originally semi-protected the page, and that is why you redirected, as they had said leave it as that. I will check with them on the consensus of restoring the article or leaving it a redirect. Have a great day! :)
--Mechanical Elephant (talk) 21:39, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- No worries, but it's not about the volume of the citations, but on their quality: reliability, whether or not they have significant coverage, and whether or not they are independent. Onel5969 TT me 22:12, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Wledig redirect to Cunedda
I absolutely agree with you that Wledig doesn't meet WP:GNG. What I don't agree with is your decision to undo my edits and restore the redirect to only one of the articles about people (historical and mythological) that the title was applied to. It doesn't make sense and it's misinforming people.
Why didn't you flag the article for deletion instead, which would be much easier for you to do than it is for me? It's what I wanted to do in the first place, but I realized it would be far easier to add content to the article than flag it for deletion. Which is a problem from my point of view, but I suppose it's probably been made deliberately cumbersome to thwart bad faith actors. 24.17.40.164 (talk) 16:42, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. I didn't flag it for deletion because it's a valid redirect, as the target mentions it. But I understand your point. Are there any other sources than the footnotes #1 and #4 at the Cunedda article? If there were at least one more, a nice little stub article could be made. If you know of one, let me know and I'll create the stub. Onel5969 TT me 22:15, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- I copied the first paragraph of my edit and the source footnote to a page of a print Welsh historical dictionary directly from Amlawdd Wledig. I found the same dictionary (there's a Wikipedia article about it at Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymru) online and it contains the exact text quoted in the Amlawdd article. I don't see a way to link directly to the definition, but if you go to https://welsh-dictionary.ac.uk/gpc/gpc.html and search for "wledig," then click the second definition the text is there. So there's a third reference and you can take your pick as to whether you want the print one or the online one.
- For what it's worth I don't speak Welsh and my interest in this is strictly from doing a couple years of research for a novel I'm not writing. 24.17.40.164 (talk) 00:06, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'll work on it in the next day or so. I think there's enough here for a stub. Onel5969 TT me 01:08, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, fleshed out the stub. Let me know what you think. Onel5969 TT me 10:42, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hey, that's pretty good. I went ahead and made some edits which I'll explain here.
- "Maxen" is a alternative spelling of "Macsen" that I rarely see so I switched it. And it's not that Macsen Wledig is sometimes confused with Magnus Maximus — they are very much one and the same person although his historical role in Welsh and Breton history blurs into myth.
- "Emrys Wledig" is much better known as Ambrosius Aurelianus, who appears to be historical although again exists in mythology as well. (Both the Old Welsh "Emrys" and the Latin "Ambrosius" mean "immortal". In some stories Ambrosisus Aurelianus is conflated with "Myrrdin Emrys" who is conflated with the wizard Merlin of Aurthurian legend. It's all a messy hodgepodge.)
- And last, I linked the Red Book of Hergest to the article on it. I also corrected the spelling of "Hergest" which you had as "Herges," although it pained me to do it because that would imply a connection between the earliest Arthurian stories to the world of Tintin and I very much like the idea of Captain Haddock roaming around Post-Roman Britain, yelling "Blistering Blue Barnacles!" at the Saxons and the Picts. 24.17.40.164 (talk) 15:21, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Nice job. Onel5969 TT me 14:13, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Understanding how notability works
Hello One15969, thanks for having a look at the article I created a few days ago. I noticed a tag pertaining to notability had been placed on the article, From what I understand it seems the article is not supported by sufficient amount of sources to allow it to meet the notability standard. However, I have seen articles on wikipedia with even fewer sources that are live on the mainspace. Also, do you know of any other platform I can cite for reliable sources concerning the subject. I am running low on options, any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading through Elvis7077 (talk) 11:36, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- If you would link to the article, I'll have another look at it. But WP:OSE, is a common thing. WP is run by volunteers, and so, over the years, there are tons of articles still on WP who would not meet notability criteria. But if you provide a link, I can be more specific about your particular article. Onel5969 TT me 11:47, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply, you responded sooner than I expected. In any case I appreciate you taking the time to interact with me. I'm basically a beginner here and may not fully understand certain norms here on wikipedia. Your guidance is most welcome, Here is the link to the article (click me). I would still like to improve and bring it up to standard if I can. Elvis7077 (talk) 12:25, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. Okay, so the main guide to notability is WP:GNG, which basically says that if a person has enough in-depth coverage about them from independent, reliable, secondary sources, they are notable enough for a WP article. There are also "Subject-specific notability guidelines", see WP:SNG, which allow an article to be presumed notable, even if there are not enough in-depth sources to pass WP:GNG. That being said, there are only 3 SNG's, in my experience, which trump GNG: WP:NPOL, WP:GEOLAND, and WP:NSCHOLAR. And then only in limited cases. For example, you'll see many articles for sub-national politicians with only a source or two, but because they were a member of a state legislature (in the U.S.) for example. But a mayor, even of a large city, must still pass GNG. For GEOLAND, if there is census data on a populated place, that census will suffice. NSCHOLAR is a bit more complex, but if they qualify through one of the 8 factors, then they do not have to pass GNG.
- So, all that being said, let's take a look at your article. The first reference, while in-depth, is from an organization he is affiliated with, therefore it is a primary source, and does not go to notability. The second one is of okay depth of coverage, but it is a simple routine announcement of a business posting. The 3rd link does not go to an actual article, so the quality of the source can't be assessed. The 4th is another regurgitated press release of the announcement of his appointment. I actually accessed the third source through a google search, and fixed the link in the article. Sources like this are problematic, if you look at the language of his section of the article, it is obvious that the language was provided by someone associated with the professor. So with the current sourcing, imho, they do not pass WP:GNG.
- Regarding WP:NSCHOLAR, with the information in the article, I can't see him meeting any of the 8 criteria. His Google Scholar profile gives him a 10 for his h-Index, which is not very high at all. A couple of his articles, "Factors influencing the adoption of cloud computing by small and medium enterprises in developing economies" and "Phishing, SMiShing & Vishing: an assessment of threats against mobile devices" get a decent number of citation counts, but he is a co-author of both, so I think he doesn't quite meet notability there, either.
- I'm going to ping a very experienced editor who is quite knowledgeable in academic articles to see if they have anything to add (or conversely to tell me I'm dead wrong): Hey David Eppstein, would you mind chiming in here if there's anything I missed? Thanks in advance. Onel5969 TT me 13:25, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply, you responded sooner than I expected. In any case I appreciate you taking the time to interact with me. I'm basically a beginner here and may not fully understand certain norms here on wikipedia. Your guidance is most welcome, Here is the link to the article (click me). I would still like to improve and bring it up to standard if I can. Elvis7077 (talk) 12:25, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Nomination of Tahchee, Arizona for deletion
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Questions about items
Both of the articles I wrote were returned to draft by you ruthlessly, which I cannot understand. I hope you can give me a reasonable explanation. Exceptionally, there are two lists that are very poorly written and can pass. My writing is at least better than those two and you rejected it. Just like List of extreme temperatures in Finland and List of extreme temperatures in Luxembourg. ALSTROEMERIA🌸Čijukas Kuvajamas 10:51, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- Please be careful of personal attacks. It could lead to you getting blocked. WP:OSE is irrelevant. Please provide enough sourcing so that the articles pass WP:GNG AND WP:VERIFY. Onel5969 TT me 14:12, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Request Review artical
Dear sir please review artcial ‘’Ahvar Rizv’’ that it can be indexed. thanks Mpsaharan8 (talk) 11:24, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Narayan Apte
The coverage on Narayan Apte is in-depth. See the sources I provided. This book has dozens of pages dedicated to him. Then there is this, this and more. This new book also has details about him.
We also have articles on criminals involved in the same murder that are not known for anything else. See Gopal Godse and Nathuram Godse. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 15:48, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Editor's Barnstar | |
Thank you very much for tirelessly adding categories to my raw redirections. Now you let me know about User:Wugapodes/Capricorn, so next time, I'll improve them at the first stage. Julthep (talk) 04:10, 5 April 2023 (UTC) |
- No worries. Yes, Capricorn does make it so much easier to add rcats. Onel5969 TT me 14:11, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Advice
Hi, I've just waded through the lengthy thread on ANI, and got a sense of deja-vu. It doesn't look like there's going to be a consensus for any sort of sanctions, but can I just offer a bit of advice? If you do triage and decide to draftily or redirect an article, and that gets reverted, simply start a procedural AfD and then walk away from it. Having a look through my own contributions, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Global Newborn Society looks like an example of doing this. Above all, please just avoid the temptation to snap back and respond in kind - it doesn't work. Be the editor that can't be baited. Of course, I haven't exactly been a saint in this regard myself, but that doesn't mean it's not good advice. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:21, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. Much appreciated advice. I do try to stay away from ANI discussions, and I stay away from most AfD noms after I send them there. Sometimes, I do add comments, when there are flyby "Keeps", which have no bearing on the policy. Onel5969 TT me 14:10, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
April 2023
Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors. Thank you. ALSTROEMERIA🌸Čijukas Kuvajamas 14:04, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- I always do. Might I suggest you do the same? Onel5969 TT me 14:08, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- I concur. As a neutral observer, without any diff or context as to where Onel allegedly assumed bad faith on you, I wouldn't advocate any action. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:37, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Haiti at the 2023 Pan American Games. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.
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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:32, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sportsfan 1234, edit warring over notability tags for an article about a sub-event of a future event not scheduled to take place for 6 months reflects worse on you than it does on Onel. signed, Rosguill talk 16:41, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- The article is not a "sub-event". Nation articles at x event are generally deemed notable. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:43, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- The issue here is less the question of whether it's notable or not (although per WP:CRYSTAL the argument for notability will always be shaky this far in advance of the event) and more that you are 1) edit warring against two editors and 2) had the gall to place a template warning on their page while doing so. Start a discussion on the talk page and work towards establishing notability, that's the correct way to move forward from here. signed, Rosguill talk 16:48, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- The article is not a "sub-event". Nation articles at x event are generally deemed notable. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:43, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Rucker School
Typically high schools are always considered to be notable, why was this moved to draft space?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Holcombe_L_Rucker_School_of_Community_Research
BlackAmerican (talk) 03:56, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- That standard was deprecated a few years ago. High schools must pass WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 08:47, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES talks about the 2017 RFC that changed the standard, if you're interested. –Novem Linguae (talk) 10:12, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Rugby league articles
Thank you for your recent interest in editing rugby league articles on Wikipedia. I invite you to join the Rugby League WikiProject where you might be able to make positive and constructive edits to improve rugby league articles here on Wikipedia.
You might also like to list which articles you have proded and have sent to drafts so that Project participants and regular rugby league editors could intervene and expand articles, which do not fit your particular interpretation of WP:GNG.Storm machine (talk) 05:24, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Further: Hi Onel5969! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. Storm machine (talk) 05:24, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- I never mark any of my edits as minor edits manually. If one of my edits was marked as minor, it was done through the app (like AWB) that I was using, which is rarely incorrect. Next time, it might be nice to include a link to the example your referring to. Onel5969 TT me 08:49, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Nomination of Sapano Vaya, Arizona for deletion
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Hello, I see you've asked for speedy deletion of the page. Please, would you take some time to have a look at my message on the TP (and at the page itself) to see if you would not consider that your request is not really necessary and that the page can be kept. As it is, the film is notable and the page, certainly not perfect, is a rather good start. I understand the guidelines you're trying to respect but in that very case, we would spare some time and energy if we decided we can keep the page. Thank you in advance. — MY, OH, MY! 14:35, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Onel5969, I have declined this speedy. It is an easy check to see that since the article was restored, there has been a significant amount of sourced prose added. If you feel the new sources aren't up to snuff it can go to AfD again, but a small amount of history checking shows that it should not have been nominated for G4. Thanks! 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 15:43, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi 78.26, I looked at the history and was really not sure what was going on, so I felt that it was best if someone who could look at the deleted version (since I was unsure this was a reversal of the deletion - didn't understand that from the edit summary, which appeared to indicate that the article had simply been recreated, and you had moved it to userspace), could make that judgement. Onel5969 TT me 15:53, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Onel5969, if it helps you can view from the logs that I restored the page on 00:17, 30 March 2023, then moved to userspace at 00:20, 30 March 2023. If it had been moved back to mainspace with no improvements at this point your action would have been entirely correct. The editing history shows significant additions at 22:09, 30 March 2023 and 22:16, 30 March 2023, so this is something you can check without needing access to the deleted version. I hope that is useful. Happy editing! 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 17:49, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi 78.26, I looked at the history and was really not sure what was going on, so I felt that it was best if someone who could look at the deleted version (since I was unsure this was a reversal of the deletion - didn't understand that from the edit summary, which appeared to indicate that the article had simply been recreated, and you had moved it to userspace), could make that judgement. Onel5969 TT me 15:53, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
AFD rationale
Could you please explain why the five sources I outlined here do not in your view constitute significant coverage of the subject. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 09:43, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
2022 Pan American Archery Championships
Hello! I would appreciate to be informed on why did the 2022 Pan American Archery Championships got removed due to "not enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to pass" when the other Pan American Archery Championships that have pages got the same amount of coverage. Would the other ones should be removed as well? These are international, federated, sanctioned championships with olympian athletes. What to we have to do to be able to keep them on? Would YouTube video coverage of the events suffice? Thanks in advance. XKuei (talk) 13:40, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- Please see WP:OSE. Onel5969 TT me 20:42, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Infoboxes on cricketers
Hi. Just a quick note! When creating articles and using Template:Infobox cricketer, please can you ensure it is all filled out when you create an article. So all format stats should be in it, then if possible, placed on your watchlist to update as and when they play. Cheers, StickyWicket (talk) 18:45, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- I never create cricket articles. Onel5969 TT me 20:42, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
your opinion/view
What’s your opinion on this page Draft:Ifeanyi Emmanuel Igboke and what do you suggest I add to make it standard.
Thanks!Vector diehard (talk) 20:03, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. First, get rid of the imdb refs, it's not a reliable source. A lot of the sourcing in your draft is questionable notability, or unreliable sources. The best sources from Nigeria are: The Guardian, The Nation, Premium Times, The Punch, Silverbird TV, The Sun, Vanguard, and The Voice. And many of the sources are not in-depth coverage. Right now, I'd be on the fence as to whether or not it passes notability. Onel5969 TT me 20:50, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Thank you for your extraordinary efforts to enforce the importance of WP:N, WP:V, WP:BURDEN and your diligence at AfD. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 15:26, 8 April 2023 (UTC) |
- Thanks. All I can do is try. Sometimes I feel like that proverbial guy with his finger in the dyke. Onel5969 TT me 20:51, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- It can be difficult to edit sometimes when it feels like you have so many people against you. Just try to remember what Wikipedia would be like without your contributions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 22:40, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Danijel Džino moved to draftspace
Hello! Thank for your advices. Unfortunately, I have not other sources for. Dr. Džino, nor I have time to search them. I know his academic work and I believe it is worth to be mentioned. Anyway, maybe some other person, in Australia or in Croatia, should find sources and time. Besides of that, your advices are useful. Maybe for another biography. Have a good time. --Inoslav Bešker (talk) 15:52, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your advices. Inoslav Bešker (talk) 15:53, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
2023 South Hams District Council election
I'm unclear what the issue is with my article. UK local government elections are covered every year on wiki with a breakdown of the results for every council.
2023 UK Local Government elections (also see previous years) South Hams District Council elections Drams707 (talk) 18:20, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry that should be 2023 United Kingdom local elections Drams707 (talk) 18:24, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. Because there are zero sources from independent, reliable, secondary sources. Regarding other elections, please see WP:OSE. Onel5969 TT me 20:53, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- Can you please tell me what has happened to the article on thw "2023 South Hams District Council election"? Its sources included the local authority itself, the UK Government and the BBC. If those aren't cast iron sources I really don't know what are! Will you be doing the same to all the articles on previous elections in South Hams and indeed other UK local elections being held in 2023? Drams707 (talk) 16:13, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. Because there are zero sources from independent, reliable, secondary sources. Regarding other elections, please see WP:OSE. Onel5969 TT me 20:53, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- Don't Worry I'll add some secondary sources for you. Wikieditor019 (talk) 21:04, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
2023 City of Wolverhampton Council election
The article is notable as all other City of Wolverhampton Council elections have Wikipedia articles. More sources will be added once the election takes place. For example, from local government websites showing the results. I have also added New citations that are independent so should now be notable. Wikieditor019 (talk) 21:03, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Buladean, North Carolina
Hello! Just curious as to why you added the notability thing to the top? Any specific reason? Did you look at the references/sources or just add it without looking at them? Why are they not valid enough? –ACase0000 (talk) 00:39, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. Because there was no official source showing it was a legally populated place. Absent that, you need in-depth coverage, which was lacking. Hope that helps. Onel5969 TT me 16:45, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- Is the USGS an official enough source? –ACase0000 (talk) 04:54, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. Not anymore. It used to be, but was deprecated back in 2019-20 sometime. Onel5969 TT me 09:32, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Is the USGS an official enough source? –ACase0000 (talk) 04:54, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
Greetings
Hello Onel. Please trust that this is meant purely as friendly advice, and not at all as criticism. It might be best to avoid emotional language in AFD discussions, because I don't think it helps the arguments.
The situation with redirects does seem quite ridiculous, so I appreciate why you are frustrated by it all. Thanks for all your work with the NPP reviews, you're doing a great job as always. All the best, MrsSnoozyTurtle 01:44, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- I try not not to. And thanks for the comment. Onel5969 TT me 01:51, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
New and recent pages
Hi. I hope you are very well. I see that you have reviewed many of my articles, especially new pages. I wanted to ask your help with some that you reviewed that are now being evaluated for deletion. I will name a few here (Latin Awards Canada, John Eric), if you could help me? Thanks. ChuchoVCJMuzik (talk) 03:12, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. What you are doing is called WP:CANVASSING, which is definitely frowned upon. However, what I will say is that I feel that both of these are borderline notability, which is why I marked them reviewed. I always try to give editors the benefit of the doubt. What you can do, is provide more in-depth sourcing, and add it to the article, this would bolster your argument for keeping them. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 16:48, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- I had not read your message. I didn't flag it to notify me. Thank you very much, I didn't know that this was frowned upon, I thought that asking another creator for help was the normal way. Well, I'll do that, more references. Thank you. ChuchoVCJMuzik (talk) 19:10, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
I de-orphaned an article you marked as "orphan"
Hello Onel5969,
Hope all is well. Thanks for checking Zhongding Catholic Church and marking it as an orphan. I have made a wikilink from Yunnan to this article, and it no longer satisfies Wikipedia:Orphan#Criteria. All the best! TheLonelyPather (talk) 12:30, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- Nice job. And thanks for letting me know. Although that was unnecessary. Once an article is de-orphaned, all you have to do is remove the tag. An orphan tag is not a sign that an article is deficient, but a heads up to other editors to see if they can tie it to other articles in the encyclopedia. Onel5969 TT me 16:50, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
review my article?
hey, a month later now lol - asking you to review my article which you draftspaced over a month ago Draft:CAWU_Learning_Center for WP:COI and WP:UPE, I am not being paid by this organization and am not affiliated with it in any manner (employment, etc.) - this is simply part of a project i'm working on to write articles about humanitarian organizations in the middle east which don't have articles existing already. I'd appreciate your support. Ballads2110 (talk) 14:47, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- But there are clear indications you have some association with the center. Can you explain your relationship? Onel5969 TT me 16:51, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- I have contacted some of the schools (usually the students attending the schools in order to get insight for the portion regarding academic life, and using that in addition to information from external references.) and that's as far as the relationship goes, this is not just one school I am working on writing about - but several, I was not asked by any of these schools and NGOs to write this and am well aware that I should disclose whether I was paid or am employed by them to do so. I felt like the reasoning behind this was a misunderstanding and can get why it would be, but again - this is not just this specific centre i'm writing about - but several, such as African Hope LC, St Andrew's Refugee Services, Jusoor's Refugee Education program in Lebanon, and more! I hope you understand now, and hope you can help move it to mainspace. If needed, I will state this limited contact stated above on the talk page of either my user or the article in question. Ballads2110 (talk) 17:00, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- with this, would it be possible for you to move the article into mainspace? Ballads2110 (talk) 19:17, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
Advice for my article
Hi @Onel5969! I want to thank you for reviewing my article pf L.A. Burdick and wanted to know if you have any advice for me regarding my article or why you made the edits you decided to make. Want to make sure I keep improving!
Thanks again,
Anabella B Anabellakb (talk) 18:29, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- The article is a nice start class article. Curious though, I didn't really edit the article. I simply added the short description. The edits made on the article were by 3 other editors, as well as your event coordinator. Some of the edits were WP:MOS edits (in terms of capitalization in section headers, etc.). But I think it's in nice shape for a start-level article. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 21:36, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
I have added 1 new source since you tagged the article. Does it pass the notability guidelines or not yet? SeanJ 2007 (talk) 23:45, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. This is most likely notable. However, right now, there are zero in-depth references about the channel. This is an issue many editors run into when attempting to source articles. It's called WP:CHURNALISM. What you have in the article are 3 sources. But they are all the same regurgitated press release. This one is quite easy to spot, since they didn't bother to alter the press release at all. But usually they will simply cut and paste large chunks around a sentence or two. Onel5969 TT me 21:32, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
This article does not meet WP:NFILM. It is very low on content and sources. I placed the proposed deletion template in it but another user had came and removed it. In their edit summary, they wrote that the production was over. But in the article, there is no evidence that proves production has ended. Can you nominate it for deletion? 2402:3A80:1E10:E153:4A16:DD85:EBEE:D842 (talk) 00:07, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Just in case you didn't see this. 2402:3A80:1E04:7B2E:EEC9:DCA5:4673:4916 (talk) 09:55, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- this article also does not meet WP:NFILM. 2402:3A80:1E0A:ACF0:423D:5B54:3834:AF5B (talk) 11:12, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- I've draftified both. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:04, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. Onel5969 TT me 21:26, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- I've draftified both. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:04, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- this article also does not meet WP:NFILM. 2402:3A80:1E0A:ACF0:423D:5B54:3834:AF5B (talk) 11:12, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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Link changed to Nonpartisanism
That line won't escape my head thanks to your edit summaries. :P LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 10:20, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
Re: El Platino
Hi! Left you a message on my user page.
Thanks and God bless! Antonio The White Cat Martin 17:14, April 11, 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Copyeditor's Barnstar | |
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Nazara TV
I've taken a look at Nazara TV as it is mostly created by a now blocked sock-puppet (and I'm about 99.9% sure the IPv6 editor is also a sock, but I doubt an admin would go for a G5 without more effect than I care to put forth). Nearly all of the refs were basically a press-release regurgitated, and the one that wasn't is pretty basic. I'm tempted to push back to draft, but since you accepted it, thought I'd reach out for some input. Ravensfire (talk) 18:59, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- By all means, draftify it. It was a shaky "reviewed" on my part. But, contrary to popular belief, I try to give every benefit of the doubt to articles. But I agree with your assessment. Onel5969 TT me 20:21, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- On second thought... G5 it. If you do not wish to, I will. Onel5969 TT me 20:22, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- My initial look at it when it first went up was iffy, but give the benefit of the doubt. Once they were sock-blocked, I looked deeper, and found all of the sources basically the same, but slightly re-arranged. The phrasing started to look more and more like a press-release as well. It's tagged as G5 now. I'm pretty sure this person is a paid editor for a network or two. Ravensfire (talk) 21:39, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Nice catch. Onel5969 TT me 21:50, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- My initial look at it when it first went up was iffy, but give the benefit of the doubt. Once they were sock-blocked, I looked deeper, and found all of the sources basically the same, but slightly re-arranged. The phrasing started to look more and more like a press-release as well. It's tagged as G5 now. I'm pretty sure this person is a paid editor for a network or two. Ravensfire (talk) 21:39, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
Copyvio at Monument to Minin and Pozharsky, Nizhny Novgorod
At article Monument to Minin and Pozharsky, Nizhny Novgorod, you [1] it for speedy deletion as a copyvio but the given URL has no overlap at all. I've declined it, but if you meant a different URL, then please provide it as the given source bears no resemblance to the article at all. -- Whpq (talk) 14:06, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Whpq. No, I meant that one. I'm getting a 71% match on earwig. I thought about removing the copyvio and doing a revdel, but it's so pervasive... Onel5969 TT me 14:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Can you check again. I get 0% on earwig, and when I look at the given URL, it is just general instructions for contributors on how what/how to write stuff for a destination. -- Whpq (talk) 17:41, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi again Whpq. This is the link to the page, and I'm still getting that 71% copyvio, and looking at the text of the source and comparing to the article, the earwig report is spot on. Weird. Onel5969 TT me 22:04, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- The link you just provided is not the link that you provided when you tagged the page as a copyright violation. Now that I can examine the correct web page, my assessment is that there is no copyright violation. The web site in question appears to be one that is built on user contributions. The enwiki article is a translation of the corresponding ruwiki article and acknowledges as such in the edit summary on creation. The web site appears to have copied and translated the ruwiki article or possible the enwiki article. -- Whpq (talk) 23:12, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry about the confusion. Thanks for clearing it up. Onel5969 TT me 00:12, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- The link you just provided is not the link that you provided when you tagged the page as a copyright violation. Now that I can examine the correct web page, my assessment is that there is no copyright violation. The web site in question appears to be one that is built on user contributions. The enwiki article is a translation of the corresponding ruwiki article and acknowledges as such in the edit summary on creation. The web site appears to have copied and translated the ruwiki article or possible the enwiki article. -- Whpq (talk) 23:12, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi again Whpq. This is the link to the page, and I'm still getting that 71% copyvio, and looking at the text of the source and comparing to the article, the earwig report is spot on. Weird. Onel5969 TT me 22:04, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Can you check again. I get 0% on earwig, and when I look at the given URL, it is just general instructions for contributors on how what/how to write stuff for a destination. -- Whpq (talk) 17:41, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Do you think it's ok to remove the "notability" template from this page now? Thank you. Jim Killock (talk) 14:45, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. Here's the issue: for academics, there are two main ways to qualify for an article: 1 - meet WP:GNG; or 2 - meet WP:NACADEMIC. To qualify for the first, you need in-depth coverage from independent, secondary, reliable sources. The Lloyd piece appears to be an interview, and therefore is a primary source. The UK source is primary. As is the Paideia Institute. As is the Coffee piece. The Academia Latinitati Fovendae ref really does not go in-depth about him. This leaves only the Neumann O'Neill piece, which I do not have access to. But that alone would not qualify for GNG, you'd need about 2 more. So that leaves WP:NACADEMIC, and I do not see him meeting any of the 8 criteria for that. The closest one would be #3, due to the Academia Latinitati Fovendae fellowship. But I'm not sure that would qualify. He's certainly accomplished. I am going to ping another editor who is brilliant at assessing scholar articles, David Eppstein, and see if they wish to opine. Onel5969 TT me 15:01, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Well, ok. That is confusing re "interviews"; these are published pieces in academic journals, even if they aren't peer reviewed that is a bit more than "primary" I would have thought. In any case "The person has had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity" ought to apply, as he's had such a big impact on the teaching of Latin, spoken Latin and output of Latin translations of well known children's books and the like. Jim Killock (talk) 15:43, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- From their list of fellowship (https://academialatinitatifovendae.com/sodales) they seem to have multiple levels of fellowship, of which Tunberg's is not the highest and most honorary, so even if this counted as a major academic society (dubious) I think the case for WP:PROF#C3 is weak.
- On the other hand, he is the translator of at least three popular children's books into Latin (How the Grinch Stole Christmas!, The Giving Tree, and Green Eggs and Ham). The Grinch article links to an in-depth story about the translation in the Chicago Tribune. If more like that (or other published reviews) could be found, constituting multiple reviews of multiple books, I think you would have a case for WP:AUTHOR-based notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 15:45, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks both, I'll work on that :) Jim Killock (talk) 15:47, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Feel free to ping me after you finish making your changes and I'll take another look. Onel5969 TT me 15:54, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks - that's done - please do review - and thanks again for engaging both of you. Jim Killock (talk) 16:33, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Feel free to ping me after you finish making your changes and I'll take another look. Onel5969 TT me 15:54, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- As always, thank you David. Onel5969 TT me 15:53, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks both, I'll work on that :) Jim Killock (talk) 15:47, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Minn Matsuda
I see that you've tagged Minn for lack of notability. Twice. I feel that if the co-founder of AAA has a page (Kazu Iijima), then Minn should have one, too. I do plan to set up a page for the AAA, so perhaps at some point we could merge the three together.
Windsong0425 (talk) 15:00, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
I see now that you have reverted Minn to draft. There is little more I can add to this page. What do you want me to do? (I am fairly new to all this.) You have not responded to my initial query. In the meantime I have set up a page for the Triple A. Shall I add Minn's bio to that? And Kazu's? Again, I don't find it fair for Kazu to have a page and Minn not. They were co-founders of the AAA. --Windsong0425 (talk) 14:10, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. I didn't respond to your above statements because they were statements, I did not think you were asking anything. Couple of things, first, since you're new to WP, when you leave a message, please link to the articles your are talking about, like this: Minn Matsuda and Kazu Iijima. Since Matsuda has been merged to draft, you could link it like: Draft:Minn Matsuda. I looked at each reference in your draft, and I didn't find any in-depth coverage of Matsuda. However, there does appear to be in-depth coverage of Iijima. I did an internet search and could not find any in-depth coverage of Matsuda either. That does not mean there isn't any, just that I couldn't find any. I did find enough in-depth coverage of Asian Americans for Action (on Google News and Google Books). I think that it would be easy to develop an article on that, and add a section on the two founders, where you could include the information about Matsuda. Hope that helps. Onel5969 TT me 14:20, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. I did set up a page for Asians Americans for Action which has been accepted. I can add a section about the founders. I agree that there is more written about Kazu than about Minn, perhaps because her family was more involved in the movement. I will continue to search for more references for Minn. Windsong0425 (talk) 14:40, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Asian Americans for Action. Sorry, my first link attempt was misspelled and for some reason I can't remove it. Windsong0425 (talk) 14:44, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. I did set up a page for Asians Americans for Action which has been accepted. I can add a section about the founders. I agree that there is more written about Kazu than about Minn, perhaps because her family was more involved in the movement. I will continue to search for more references for Minn. Windsong0425 (talk) 14:40, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Linked related articles with Orphan Page
Hi Wikipedian, I've linked the Waste management to the Leaf_Bank page. Please check it and if you think it is sufficient then please remove this orphan tag. Thank you Snyjhon (talk) 09:56, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedian, I have removed the orphan tag from this article, as I have introduced links to this page from related articles and lists. I hope this is sufficient. Thank you very much for taking your valuable time to review this page. Snyjhon (talk) 18:37, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
Advice for cleanup of recent edits by Yaujj13
Hi @Onel5969,
I'm trying to cleanup edits by Yaujj13 made recently. As I said in User talk:Yaujj13, he inserted inappropriate content directly to many articles.
Editors not interested in these articles are usually not aware of the problem at the first time and try to wikify his content. They may think minor fixes are enough, such as Dr vulpes in Talk:Japanese war crimes. Beyond My Ken moved some of his off-topic content in Moro Rebellion to a separate section which is still weird. Simoooix.haddi made reverts to my restoration before he made self-reverts to withdraw his decision. Where can I ask for a consensus on his edits across several articles?
Best regards, NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 14:12, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- They were not "off-topic", they were definitely about the Moro Rebellion, just badly placed and not well-constructed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 14:14, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Incidentally, this could be construed as WP:CANVASSING. Beyond My Ken (talk) 14:14, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm asking for a way to reach consensus. That's definitely not WP:CANVASSING. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 14:19, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry about not replying yesterday. There are really only two ways to deal with editors you disagree with, either on talk pages, or if you feel their behavior (not content disputes) is egregious, you can report them at ANI. Right now, I would simply continue to interact with the editor on their talk page. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 16:36, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm asking for a way to reach consensus. That's definitely not WP:CANVASSING. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 14:19, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
notability guideline about the article "Russian Fishing 4"
Hi, One15969,
Thanks for your reviewing of my newly created article Russian Fishing 4, I really appreciate your time and patience! Regarding your concern about the notability of the topic, I had made some amendments to the article and here are some of my clarifications:
1) I have added several media coverage citations about the game in the "Reception" section, which could prove the credential of the topic as being important and relevant enough. 2) There is already a wikipage about the same topic in German, as the game itself is not only popular in the English world, but also (or more) so in many other parts of the world.
Thank you again for your efforts and I look forward to hearing from you again! OinkiiiDawnkki (talk) 14:40, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, definitely meets GNG now. Nice job. Onel5969 TT me 00:40, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Girchi (disambiguation)
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2023 City of Wolverhampton Council election Part 2
Hello,
Why has the article been redirected to the council page. It deserves to have its own page as all the other England 2023 local elections do. Please tell me why you did this. Wikieditor019 (talk) 15:46, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- As explained in the edit summary, there is not enough in-depth coverage to show it meets notability guidelines. As in zero, in-depth coverage. No subject "deserves" its own page, each subject must meet WP:GNG. As said in the summary, most likely a case of WP:TOOSOON. Can be recreated as soon as in-depth coverage from several independent sources is available. Onel5969 TT me 15:50, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Could I revert your edits and move the page to a draft so I can edit it as more info becomes available? Wikieditor019 (talk) 15:53, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Or I could do that for you. Whatever you prefer. Onel5969 TT me 15:54, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'll do that now. Wikieditor019 (talk) 15:57, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Or I could do that for you. Whatever you prefer. Onel5969 TT me 15:54, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Could I revert your edits and move the page to a draft so I can edit it as more info becomes available? Wikieditor019 (talk) 15:53, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
2023 Tewkesbury Borough Council election
Can you please advise me why this article does not meet notability standards when previous Tewkesbury elections have.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tewkesbury_Borough_Council_elections
Furthermore articles on all the individual UK authority local elections are included in Wikipedia on an annual basis. Why is this Council different? Drams707 (talk) 16:24, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Please see above answer. Onel5969 TT me 17:20, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Kong Hong
You have tagged this article for {{Notability}} three times now with zero explanation. Could you perhaps explain on Talk:Kong Hong why you think the Golden Horse Lifetime Achievement Award does not meet any criteria of WP:ANYBIO or WP:FILMMAKER, or why the entire book about him that was already cited in the article the first time you added the tag [2] does not qualify as "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject"? 59.149.117.119 (talk) 18:22, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 00:43, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
if you can tell me this nicely then and who is jrr
How do i resolve the issue im asking you to do much , just tell me how i can sort the darts stuff 82.4.151.162 (talk) 15:01, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- You can stop socking, JRR, and accept your ban. Onel5969 TT me 15:01, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
Siena Saints softball
Hi. I appreciate your concerns with regards to Siena Saints softball. However, I was working to establish more notability and add secondary sources (the history section, which was incomplete before my updates were reverted, was the section I was going to find sourcing for.) I was finished for the night yesterday and planned on adding to the article more later today. I ask for a little leniency as its a work in progress for me in collaboration with Wikipedia:WikiProject Softball/College softball task force. Siena is a bit more difficult to find notability from other pages I've worked on but I believe I can find the sourcing necessary - I just had not done that yet. Mannytool (talk) 19:51, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- No worries, in the future, when you're going to be working on article you can do it in draft space or put an {{under construction}} tag at the top while you're working on it. Onel5969 TT me 20:01, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
Draft:David Gritten
@Onel5969: re: Draft:David Gritten and David Gritten :
"Gritten, David" OR "David Gritten" has 297 prior citations in wikipedia. He is the author of three books. The article has sufficient third-party citations. It qualifies for stub status. ....0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 23:06, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- That's actually not a qualification towards notability. And he's the author of one book, and the co-author of two others. That might be a claim under NAUTHOR, but that is not shown in the draft. Onel5969 TT me 00:19, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Hi @Onel5969, since you've added a notability tag for Puspashree Pattnaik, I wanted to provide a bit of context.
- There are currently six references and not a single one is from the organization she founded. Furthermore, three are from the public sources in India, i.e. government entities/subsidiaries, one is from a non-profit that is not hers and a project that was collaboratively done by multiple stakeholders, another one is from a US government-led study and then finally one from a US public university publication. Which of these sources might seem less notable?
- Most notable women from India that contribute in several Indian languages often are widely covered in those language media. Puspashree Pattnaik is no exception. But most notable media don't have a proper archiving and are not always archived on the Internet Archived. When they are even archived, searching is impossible because online-papers are not text but images. I or anyone else doesn't have an easy way to cite.
- Since Pattnaik's contributions are in Odia, there is no easy way to find more tertiary and above references to cite.
- Lastly, she is a key interviewee (actor) in a film that is archived at the Library of Congress (https://lccn.loc.gov/2020512175). Since, I am the director of that film I did not want to add that myself to flag any kind of unnecessary red flag. Additionally, the film has an EIDR record (https://ui.eidr.org/view/content?id=10.5240/D926-0610-5EAA-FA7E-F91D-9) and both these sources are notable enough. That said, I am neither related or a part of Srujanika, the nonprofit Pattnaik founded, or its board. I created the film to document their work purely out of pocket.
I think we as a community need an equitable lens. India has over 700 languages. English is used officially only federally and in some states (provinces). How can one possibly rely only on English sources. And when we even do, how can one possibly find equal number of references for an American (or another cash- and media-dominant country) author and an Indian one. There is no ground for comparison. I hope you'd assume good faith and help. Psubhashish (talk) 00:44, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Corresponding member of "British Academy" lacks criteria of "notability"?
I find it quite remarkable that Prof.Dr. Mamadou Diawara, a German ethnologist of Malian origin and Corresponding Member of the British Academy does not meet the criteria of "notability" according to Wikipedia administrator Onel5969. Dirk-Franz (talk) 15:30, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
The Lives of Lord Alfred Milner and Winston Churchill
I would like this deletion to be reversed by an administrator per: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion. Lord Milner (talk) 15:59, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Post-vac syndrome
Dear reviewer, I received a message that you had reviewed the new page on the post-vac syndrome and thought that it was accepted. Unfortunately, someone (Buidhe) has removed the page. Could you please help or undo this edit by Buidhe? Buidhe also deleted the text on the Post-vac syndrome Paul Ehrlich Institute, so the link has been undone. I know the Post-Vac syndrome is a sensitive subject, but there is nothing in the text which could be a reason to reject the content. I have written it very carefully so as not to get involved in any political discussion. But it surely has encyclopedic value? I am looking forward to your reaction and/or help. Hanengerda Hanengerda (talk) 10:51, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. Buidhe is a very experienced and quite good editor. While I do not necessarily agree with the redirect, I understand their point in doing so. When I marked it reviewed, I felt that it met the bare minimum for notability, but I can certainly see the argument for redirecting. You might want to discuss it with them on their talk page. Onel5969 TT me 01:08, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Hi there, I note that you drafted these two a few months ago at Draft:Ghaith Ouahabi and Draft:Malek Mehri. Today, they has been copied and pasted with no changes and placed into mainspace... This usually counts as a contested draftify. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:32, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing that out. Onel5969 TT me 01:09, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Onel5969
Hi Onel5969,
I hope all is well, first off, I would like to say that I really admire your work and hope that one day I would get to these levels.
I currently just started and I am learning everyday from people like you.
There’s an active that you have just reviewed and I would like you to help me make it bwtter instead of deletion. This article is AirDee. The previous ones have been deleted due to the fact that they were being confused with the “ArrDee” from UK. I would like you to help me make this page better so I could one day be like you and other best Wiki-Gurus.
Thank you. PenJuluka (talk) 13:24, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Re: Mediaset
- I didn't create the article.
- Mediaset is one of the most influential private broadcasting companies in Italy, so the subject is notable enough.
- I'll try to bring more sources and more editors into the article, but could you please bring the Mediaset page back to the main namespace?
JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 15:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. I knew you didn't create the article, that was done by an ip. But you were the one who did most of the work on it, so as a courtesy, I thought I would let you know. Onel5969 TT me 01:10, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
L'amour Supreme
Please do not delete my page. I spent hours and hours creating it. I did not plagiarize and no one paid me to do it. I referenced everything. I don't understand what I did wrong. Bigcurl254 (talk) 15:55, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Asiana Airlines fleet
I'm curious- what was your reason for blanking and redirecting this page only to undo that a minute later? SurferSquall (talk) 18:32, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. Because when you split the article, you did not provide proper attribution as per WP:SPLIT. So I restored the redirect, and then self-reverted in order to provide that attribution for you. Onel5969 TT me 01:12, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you. SurferSquall (talk) 05:09, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Payzone
I saw that you moved two related split article to draft space. You may not have realized that these two articles were split from the original Payzone which had the same content for several years. I came across it when reviewing finance project article and split the contents into the two new pages as they clearly did not fit into one article. Moving them to draft space is not helpful as it leaves the disam page adrift and content lost that has been on Wikipedia for a number of years. A better solution would be to tag it or mark it for deletion which would bring attention to it. I have no knowledge about these companies and would not be able to improve the references. Can you please review this again and see if you can find a better solution. Sargdub (talk) 23:04, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'll look at it again today, for now, I've restored the original article. Onel5969 TT me 09:21, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
About COI
Hello again? I wasn't understanding much about WP:UPE or WP:COI conflict. but I was taking my time and read about it, and I understand now, no one paid me to edit I found that page from Swahili wiki [3] and decide to create here if the reason of COI is the image that I uploaded from common wiki I already added sources where I found that image and is public domain license you can check it here [4]. I appreciate your hard work. Chipeta100 (talk) 09:30, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Help
Hello, Onel5969 ! Can you help me? I can't move this page Kharadze, Koba to another space, i mean Koba Kharadze. - OTOGI Messages 11:31, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. I moved it, but there is an issue with notability. Are there any sources which show that his books were reviewed? If so, please add them. Onel5969 TT me 11:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much ! This sourses is good ?, researchgate - OTOGI Messages 12:31, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. Yes, that is a good source, however, they do not show notability. Usually, notable scholars have several works with hundreds of citations each (this varies of course by the subject matter). Onel5969 TT me 12:35, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm going to ping an editor with a lot of expertise regarding scholars: David Eppstein, to see if he would be good enough to take a look.Onel5969 TT me 12:36, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'd appreciate it. - OTOGI Messages 12:44, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Notability not obvious to me, but there's probably a language barrier preventing me from accessing published reviews of his work in Georgian or Russian (if they exist), and from distinguishing major national-level awards (which might contribute to notability) from local university-level awards (which do not). His Google Scholar profile [5] shows zero citations, exceptionally low, but again that's probably the language barrier. The American Biographical Institute Who's Who listing is a vanity scam award and an embarrassment to the subject (or should be) and should just be removed from the article; it does not contribute (positively) to notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 15:17, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you as always for you detailed analysis, David. Otogi, do you understand what is needed in order to show notability? Onel5969 TT me 17:07, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, David Eppstein! Thank you for your advice and thank you again onel5969. I agree with David. Unfortunately, reason is language barrier, because as you know, all Georgan soviet scientists wrote in russian or georgian language, in this case also, same situation. What Is to be done... i don't know. It is a fact that i am writing, but maybe none of this matters. - OTOGI Messages 12:08, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you as always for you detailed analysis, David. Otogi, do you understand what is needed in order to show notability? Onel5969 TT me 17:07, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Notability not obvious to me, but there's probably a language barrier preventing me from accessing published reviews of his work in Georgian or Russian (if they exist), and from distinguishing major national-level awards (which might contribute to notability) from local university-level awards (which do not). His Google Scholar profile [5] shows zero citations, exceptionally low, but again that's probably the language barrier. The American Biographical Institute Who's Who listing is a vanity scam award and an embarrassment to the subject (or should be) and should just be removed from the article; it does not contribute (positively) to notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 15:17, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'd appreciate it. - OTOGI Messages 12:44, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm going to ping an editor with a lot of expertise regarding scholars: David Eppstein, to see if he would be good enough to take a look.Onel5969 TT me 12:36, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. Yes, that is a good source, however, they do not show notability. Usually, notable scholars have several works with hundreds of citations each (this varies of course by the subject matter). Onel5969 TT me 12:35, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much ! This sourses is good ?, researchgate - OTOGI Messages 12:31, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Blooket
Hello Onel5969. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Blooket, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: G4: not sufficiently identical to deleted page. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:43, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Twitter Being An (Un)Reliable Source
Even tough the actor in question (Michael Kovach) is a blue check-marked verified user on Twitter and most other verified voice actors (Erica Lindbeck, Kira Buckland, etc.) get to have Twitter ref sources on the roles that they did by actually tweeting/posting about their roles on their Twitter feed. I really don't see the notability problem on why Kovach can't have it on his.-Prince Silversaddle (talk) 15:03, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- No social media outlets are valid sources, twitter, youtube, instagram, facebook, etc. And even if they were, it would be a primary source, which does not give notability to anyone. Onel5969 TT me 15:05, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Nominating articles for deletion
Hi there. I just saw that you nominated an article for deletion written by an editor that we both seem to have had some issues with. Although I am not new to editing, I am new to nominating articles for deletion—as I have never really had an issue like the one this editor creates. The pages I am looking to nominate are Oleksandr Rudenko and Oleksandr Yosha. The reasoning is the exact same as the reasoning you used to nominate Vitaliy Arinin. I tried to use what you did as a template for the other two, and I have checked the nomination process run-through, but it's a bit unclear, I admit. Any help you can offer is greatly appreciated. Anwegmann (talk) 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. Do you have Twinkle? If so, there's a link on the drop down menu which forms the AfD nomination (and CSD and RFD, etc.) correctly. You can find twinkle at: Wikipedia:Twinkle. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 16:45, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Request for reviewing a draft
Hi Onel5969, can you review Draft:Greg Brockman. I think it's notable enough to be in mainspace, will be kind enough to check it's notable or not? Thanks Clumsyjokr (talk) 19:09, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Many articles moved to draftspace
Hi @Onel5969,
I have noticed that, recently, you have moved many articles to draftspace (often mentioning lack of notability or insufficient in-line references as a reason). In some cases, this makes sense, but my impression is that you have been making an increasing use of that feature over recent weeks/months, and I do not feel that it was justified in all circumstances.
For example, this week you draftified Espigüete and Classical Monetary System of the Oriental Republic of Uruguay. The first one had six in-line sources -- while it is not that many, I feel it is also sufficient to deserve at least to stay online so that other editors have the opportunity to add more sources (especially since this is a very non-controversial topic: it is an article about a mountain). The second one has 22 in-line sources and 4 bibliography, and is again on a rather non-controversial topic. Anecdotally, the second one is the translation from a featured article in Spanish Wikipedia (I know that it is not a criteria that matters, but worth keeping in mind).
Could you provide more details as to why these would need to be deleted? Deleting articles that are already quite mature is a strong deterrent for well-intentioned editors and translators.
When draftification is used for very specific issues, I think it is a good tool, but I think it is important not to over-use it. In this specific circumstance, do not think that these would pass an AfD vote if they were submitted, so I would be inclined to republish them as-is so that we can get the opinion of the community in an AfD process.
Thanks a lot for your reply 7804j (talk) 19:40, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Did you bother to look at the rationales for those two specific deletions. First, draftifying is not deleting, one of the core tenants of Draftify is that there is a chance of it being notable. Regarding the two drafts, included in the draftify message was the specific reason: "While it appears to be notable, it needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. There are large sections which are wholly uncited. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. I did this rather than removing the uncited material in the article, which I felt would be more disruptive." Over half the article was uncited. I could have left it in mainspace, marked it reviewed, but then I would have had to gut the article as per WP:VERIFY. My interactions with editors find that they prefer the draftification, rather than gutting the article. Onel5969 TT me 19:52, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yes I have "bothered" to read the rationale, and I unfortunately disagree with it. I think it is an exaggeration to say "There are large sections which are wholly uncited" -- there may be specific sentences and some paragraphs where the source is not mentioned, but in many cases it is because it relies on the same source as another paragraph of the same article (in which cases, it is not about a lack of citation, but maybe lack of in-line references).
- In my experience, the most helpful has been the use of the in-line "Citation needed" tag, which helps understand which parts of the article need additional citations. So I think the approach of leaving it in the mainspace and then either marking specific sections as lacking citation (or "gutting" them if you prefer) may be better in these specific articles so that the translator can understand which specific parts are not ready.
- (as a side note, my impression is that you have much higher standards for what is considered as "lacking reference" than most reviewers/administrators in the English Wikipedia. I know that you are allowed to remove any uncited material as per Wikipedia policies, but many other reviewers do not enforce it as strictly. Strict enforcement may lead to marginally higher quality articles, but it also has negative side effects of discouraging content creation) 7804j (talk) 13:54, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- You can disagree all you want, but the fact is that more than half of each of those articles is uncited. Encouraging sloppy articles does a disservice both to the editor and WP. In my experience perma-tagging articles is actually worthless, as the tags remain on the articles for years without improvement. And I used the term "bothered" because your initial comment gave no indication that you had read the comments, since it completely ignored them.Onel5969 TT me 13:59, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Draft:Kiran Verma
The subject is notable, Working for a cause of people. I saw an account with the name of Kiranverma imhad edited but i think his article should be on Wikipedia. According to my search, he has been top viewed influencer profile on LinkedIn in 2018. Reference are mentioned in The Article. Rest is upon you. Thanks अकबर अली फरहान (talk) 14:50, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Sports strategy submitted for review
Hi @Onel5969,
Just notifying you (as you asked to) that the Sports strategy has been modified by inline citations to secondary sources to all sections. Just explaining my rationale why I kept some sections unsourced was because they are basically summaries of other Wikipedia articles and I don't want to cause "referencing" chaos between summaries and main articles. However I think it works now. --Danielsltt (talk) 14:52, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Nice job, moved back to mainspace. Onel5969 TT me 19:44, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Josefina Blanco
Hi @Onel5969,
Josefina Blanco was a great Spanish actress, whose professional life was overshadowed by the genius of Valle Inclán. Initially the article was created based on bibliography, but her importance as an artist has allowed us to find news and reports on websites and online newspapers that allow us to verify and reference all these facts. Pirandello3 (talk) 14:58, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Miss All Nations
@Onel5969 There was no copyright infringement on Miss All Nations. Please let me know where this can be discussed. Please limit our interaction otherwise.
KatoKungLee (talk) 16:18, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello. I see that you recently marked Lilo & Stitch (2024 film) as reviewed, but the page has several flags that should have prompted draftification or redirection instead. Firstly, the film in question does not satisfy the WP:NFF requirement of having begun filming, as per the sources in the article. Secondly, there was already a draft located at Draft:Lilo & Stitch (upcoming film), which should be the primary copy due to its older history. And finally, the disambiguation (2024 film)
is incorrect because there is no evidence the film is scheduled to be released in 2024, and the article provides no source for that claim. For those reasons, I have redirected the article. Thank you. InfiniteNexus (talk) 16:36, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- No worries. While not meeting the guidelines of NFF, I did feel it passed GNG, but different folks see things differently. Onel5969 TT me 19:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Good evening from a sunny Scotland, I have reverted your edits on this article as in this case "jew" is not a proper noun. It is short for jewelfish. The ootoliths of these fishes and their relatives were used by various cultures as jewels, see Lucky stone. It has nothing to do with the Jewish people or religion. Personally, I would find it uncomfortable using that name, despite its innocent derivation. Quetzal1964 (talk) 19:19, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time to explain that. I didn't realize that when I was doing my spelling patrol today. Onel5969 TT me 19:37, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Verisart
Hi @Onel5969! I saw you did some clean up for the Verisart page, and thank you for that. However, the ".ART" is the correct one. Here's how you did it, though.
"Verisart has since partnered with several art industry stakeholders, including eBay, Art Systems, and the Design and Artists Copyright Society (DACS). Other partnerships include Paddle8, SuperRare, Vouched, Artsy,. ART, and Shopify. It has also worked with some of the best known artists, including Ai Wei Wei and Shepard Fairey to certify their works of art."
It should be "Arsty, .ART,..." Please check. Thank you. Bmjc98 (talk) 15:26, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi again, @Onel5969! This is regarding the Orphan tag on the page. I have already link Verisart to Art market. Please check. Thank you.Bmjc98 (talk) 03:50, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Why couldn't interviews count as GNG? I never understood that. -- LegalizeAnythingMuppets (talk) 18:18, 22 April 2023 (UTC)