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Athelete biographies particarly sailing together with general sailing linked to competitive sailing. I have a background in Naval Architecture and hope my contributions help preserve sailing legacy

Swan articles

Hi there

Thanks for the recent updates of Swan articles. Keep up the good work.

Sami — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sami P. Lehtonen (talkcontribs) 17:26, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks I have about 20 new pages in draft form for each model I am just waiting for a decision on some changes to the infobox structure and I will upload together with some more pictures. Role on there Swans 50th Anniversary. Yachty4000 (talk 21:27, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Very nice work. I am hoping to get some more photos of the interiors and deck gear during the 50th anniversay reggattas. However I think the stories are more interesting for the readers than the technical specs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sami P. Lehtonen (talkcontribs) 12:10, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think the key is to seperate the general stories from the technical stuff. The technical specification is interesting but to a smaller group of people and the infobox help with this. I like the stories to but so often I see them written with such a bias to a particarlar region the pages lose interest to the global reader. I have a load more photos but generally of the exterior with the boats at dock. My aim was simply to get one picture on each page as generally when you start something on wikipedia they then begin to be contributed by others. I will do the reamin models over the next couple of days. Enjoy the regatta I hoped to go but have other commitment and am still trying to save for my own classic swan! Yachty4000 (talk 13:35, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it's very true that the text added to the articles tend to be somewhat biased which is why I have tried to keep the content that I have gathered so far (especially for 36 and 65) as neutral and encylopedic as possible. For 65 and especially for Sayula II there is about to be a lot more information available as The Weekend Sailor movie becomes public. I am currently involved with marketing of the film but I haven't found the time to open a Wikipedia article for it yet. ClubSwan50 is also a boat which deserves a well made article of it's own and if I have chance I'm trying to shoot some photos of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sami P. Lehtonen (talkcontribs) 07:30, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What is radio sailing?

Hi. You created the International Radio Sailing Association article; would you be able to add a definition of "radio sailing" to that article? JanCeuleers (talk) 07:56, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out 1991 IFMAR 1:10 Electric Off-Road World Championships has been accepted == Draft:1985 IFMAR 1:10 Electric Off-Road World Championships 1995 IFMAR 1:10 Electric Off-Road World Championships (July 11) ==


I appreciate that you want to include these championships on this page, but this information has been now removed twice as being unsourced and it is still unsourced. The policy on this is pretty clear:

In the English Wikipedia, verifiability means other people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source. Wikipedia does not publish original research. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of editors. Even if you are sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it ... All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists and captions, must be verifiable. All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material. Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed ... All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material ...Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source.

You can't keep putting unsourced information back into articles. I am happy to give you a couple of days to find sources for all these championships, but if no sources exist then it must be removed. - Ahunt (talk) 16:24, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your not looking at the big picture which is a complete table of the World Champions that can be viewed and refined by others. Many of these tables have been refined by a lot of users and often by the competitors themselves as the most accurate and upto date source. You are simply removing the template from one place it is used not requesting the deletion of the content.
Please put your efforts into improving referencing not just going round deleting valid contributions. For example removing the Paralympics as unsourced facts is just silly and could be corrected quickly. Wikipedia is often the only reliable source of this information as event website disappear within a couple of years. I will improved the referencing mainly by linking extensively to World Sailing results archive which isn't the best source but quick to look up to keep you happy and then restore the page. Smartshift moved all these tables out of the main article and into templates which doesn't help as for example the Paralympics is properly referenced on it page. - Yacht4000 (talk) 19:03, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your response here, but I can't add refs to these as I have no idea where the refs are. If Wikipedia is the only source of this information then we run into original research problems here. If it was on websites in the past, then have you tried recovering that from archive.org or archive.vn? Ultimately, though if it can't be sourced soon to WP:RS it will have to be removed as unverifiable. Wikipedia policy leaves us no wiggle room to keep unsourced and unsourcable claims.
As far as putting these into templates goes, that is a bad move as AfD has confirmed that is not what templates are for. - Ahunt (talk) 19:14, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have to say that I don't understand why you removed the Paralympics section tag with the edit summary "I have added even more references", when you added no refs at all to that section. I have restored the tag for now, although normally if an editor removes a "citation needed" tag without providing any refs the text would be removed. - Ahunt (talk) 20:25, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
All the paralympics have primary pages which as far as I am concerned is properly reference for this reason I feel summary tables do not require referencing.
Sailing_at_the_2000_Summer_Paralympics
Sailing_at_the_2004_Summer_Paralympics etc.....
I added referencing to the results that do not appear elsewhere on wikipedia Yacht4000 (talk) 21:57, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that the template on the Sonar page then shows up as unsourced. Can they be moved into the template or listed at the head of the Sonar section so we at least comply with WP:V? - Ahunt (talk) 22:03, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]


December 2023

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Request reason:

I genuinely do not understand the policies and the ability of one user to block my account without consultation or reason. If someone can explain to me why using a logo within a "logo" template for what is effectively is a member clubs so no real commercial issues which is done for literally over 100 other identical organization contained within the template. Take a look at List of yacht clubs to see the template use. I am no copyright expert if the organisation has expressed an objection delete the logo. Don't block a user with over 10 years and 10k contribution on this particular topic.

Decline reason:

As you admittedly don't understand WP:FAIRUSE, we have to leave you blocked. It's quite disturbing that you think we should wait until an organisation files an objection. Yamla (talk) 12:07, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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Request reason:

The lack of gratitude in users comtribution is disappointing by the moderators. As an active member of wiki saiing project and also a contributor to wikidata. I haven't seen any compliants or reasons that the use of the image in this way is against policies in fact it is a "deriative" of it use. It is only used in context with a page link by default and I have only seen the "yachtclub" template on sailors who are members or events they have held. Why would this ever likely to cause any form of copyright issues when used on an open source website like wikipedia. It not like we are selling the flags for commercial purpose or really enabling that. While I have read the policies linked I am not really sure what has been broken and no explanation over why similar images used in context is ok in over 100 cases. Wikipedia could limit the logo useage to one page and it could flag up small print when editing. I simply went down the list yacht club and looked which one had logo uploaded but missing innocently. Personally I think the kind of logo used in infobox should be on wikimedia and not accepted on these terms. Yachty4000 (talk) 13:32, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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