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Re-draftify

This article should be re-draftified for not having enough information. 204.98.124.205 (talk) 01:26, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's already been requested over at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests. ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 01:41, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Second this. We need to wait for more information to come out tommorow, please put this in drafts ASAP. HamiltonthesixXmusic (talk) 02:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, the first damage surveys have been released on social media for the initial Elkhorn/Lincoln area tornadoes. Article is good enough to be published independently and linked to mainspace Tornadoes of 2024. HamiltonthesixXmusic (talk) 19:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I’d like to request that bot thingy come and archive this section and any other sections that are no longer relevant 2601:5C5:4201:68B0:1C33:5BDD:23B8:FA6D (talk) 00:58, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Might be ClueBot III, don’t know for sure. Just guessing based on the edit history of another article’s talk page with recent archiving. 2601:5C5:4201:68B0:1C33:5BDD:23B8:FA6D (talk) 05:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image used is copyrighted

The "Blair, NE" tornado photo is a screenshot of a copyrighted video which was taken by an unknown man. I have seen this making the rounds on social media, I just wanted to let you know that this image is 100% a copyvio. MemeGod ._. (talk) 01:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

iowa

what about the tornadoes in iowa? underwood, minden, shelby, tennant, so on and so fourth? 2600:8804:168B:4000:812B:C115:B336:D847 (talk) 03:23, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pertinent information will be reflected as appropriate sources (i.e. NWS surveys) come out. Though I will agree Minden seems to be one of the hardest hit communities. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 02:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Surveys have not been completed; the Iowa tornadoes will be added when they are finished. EPhC4 (talk) 17:50, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Potential EF4-EF5

a bunch of professional storm chasers and weather agencies are calling the Blair-Elkhorn wedge tornado a potential EF4+, so a lot of information might come crashing in here in the coming days. This outbreak is more significant than I thought it would be. MemeGod ._. (talk) 15:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but I really wouldn't spectate on the tornado's rating or the significance of the tornado outbreak itself in general until the NWS surveys come out. ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 15:26, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Potentially, but the lack of any reports of major damage there or in Minden (I think the same exact tornado) makes me think it wouldn't reach anything beyond EF3-EF4 but I don't want to speculate. PaulRKil (talk) 15:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mìnđến was a different tornado. The Blair one hit parts of Omaha, and there is very, very clear EF4 damage. While I’m not saying it should be prematurely rated as such, I was just saying that we should prepare for a ton of info to start coming in quickly. MemeGod ._. (talk) 15:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remember how a lot of social media personalities and agencies thought the Matador tornado was a EF4+ last year, but was actually rated high end EF3. Please wait for official NWS assessments to be released on social media, or other credible rating from the DAT for reference and addition onto here. HamiltonthesixXmusic (talk) 19:46, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strongest tornado with damage reports was the tornado near Elkhorn, Nebraska, which is speculated to be EF3. The tornadoes yesterday (April 27) have not had as much time to be assessed, so we will see. 2605:A601:A0F2:8600:FB92:2CCD:C381:68AD (talk) 17:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Elkhorn could have been an EF3 or low - mid EF4. EPhC4 (talk) 17:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Speculated".
Wikipedia is not Reddit, Twitter, Facebook or like any other social media app. When a fact is verified this page can be revised or expanded upon. No other exceptions. HamiltonthesixXmusic (talk) 19:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Absolute insanity in Oklahoma

There are 5 PDS warnings active, 3+ wedge tornadoes on the ground, and the Ardmore HS is currently on fire. This article needs updated ASAP MemeGod ._. (talk) 04:10, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fatalities

At least 1 reported in Holdenville so far: [1] --Kuzwa (talk) 11:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One more, also another confirmed death in Sulphur. MemeGod ._. (talk) 13:57, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rating in Infobox

While I'm sure this outbreak has some violent (EF4+) tornadoes in this outbreak, it appears there's no tornado currently with even an official preliminary rating of EF2+. Maybe change the rating in the infobox to EF2+ until the NWS actually gives a higher rating. Halls4521 (talk) 18:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure that the tornado in Elkhorn, NE, had a preliminary rating of EF3. EPhC4 (talk) 18:37, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
However, the article currently doesn't have any available references to any preliminary EF3 rating, much less one that's higher ( at least the ones shown in the confirmed tornadoes table). Until an official (NWS/SPC) one is found, hopefully soon, I think it be best the Infobox display the highest rating we're currently able to confirm (EF2+).--Halls4521 (talk) 18:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
NWS Omaha said that they found evidence consistent of EF3+ strength in some areas but never said where. So no individual tornado has been rated EF3 but it appears as though EF3 damage was found. That's probably why the max rating in the infobox is EF3+ JimmyTheMarble (talk) 18:56, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay then, I'll leave it as is. Thanks.--Halls4521 (talk) 19:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per the following news article they assigned that preliminary EF3 to the Elkhorn tonado. Fatalities have also increased to 4. [2] --Kuzwa (talk) 19:02, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More images

I think we need more images from tornado damage. Doe anyone know any images that have no copyright? Floriangkmcc (talk) 18:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As of right now, there aren't many copyright-free damage images. I'd wait a few days until the NWS posts the results to the surveys, which usually includes damage images. MemeGod ._. (talk) 18:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do have an image of the Sulphur, Oklahoma tornado, but I have no idea where I'd put it. MemeGod ._. (talk) 18:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

The vandalism in this article is crazy. We need to semi-protect this article ASAP. D.P.K (talk) 22:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheEasternEditer: If the vandalism resumes, please make a report to WP:RfPP for temporary semi-protection, or I will do so if I notice further vandalism. ChrisWx 🌀 (talk - contribs) 22:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer if you handle the report. D.P.K (talk) 22:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will do, if I notice vandalism on the page again. ChrisWx 🌀 (talk - contribs) 22:20, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flooding

Shouldn’t the flooding be added to the event since the wpc did issue a large risk for flooding and that the flooding was pretty bad for Oklahoma Colin777724 (talk) 22:54, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good idea. ChessEric 01:20, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Damage?

Our list contains no tornado identified as Elkton or Lincoln nor mentions any tornado destroying a single home. Not in line with the images on the news reports. Rmhermen (talk) 23:26, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rmhermen: There are tornadoes listed for Elkhorn and Lincoln, NE (under "SE of Yutan, NE to Elkhorn, NE to Modale, IA" and "Northern Lincoln to Waverly to SW of Ashland" respectively) and we do list some homes being destroyed in some entries, such as the Minden, IA tornado. The reason why some information is missing because the event happened recently, and the information simply hasn't come out yet. ChrisWx 🌀 (talk - contribs) 00:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I fixed the header to be 2 "==" on each side, if there is an issue with that, please let me know. Thank you, ChrisWx 🌀 (talk - contribs) 00:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

problem

I accidentally duplicated everything because the page looked empty. I tried to re add all the topics but it ended up duplicating everything, and I can’t undo it, can someone fix this. EPhC4 (talk) 00:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done here. ChrisWx 🌀 (talk - contribs) 00:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. EPhC4 (talk) 00:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. ChrisWx 🌀 (talk - contribs) 01:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Synthesis and some missing citations

So a tag has been placed on some text indicating possible OR/synthesis in this article, and I've added an additional cn tag. Some statements pertaining to PDS tornado warnings also lack citations. I have work to do tonight but I figured I'd pop in. TornadoLGS (talk) 00:28, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Velocity scan of the Elkhorn tornado

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2024_Elkhorn_Tornado_on_Velocity.jpg I have a picture of the velocity scan of the Elkhorn, Ne tornado if anyone wants to use it in the article. Gavintheweather (talk) 15:41, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict with official tornado c ount

How are you all counting only 56 tornadoes with this event? The SPC storm reports lists 178 unfiltered and 145 filtered tornadoes over the 4-day period. -Rolypolyman (talk) 19:40, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some tornadoes were reported may times 2600:1014:B138:C8E6:0:6:4FAE:3701 (talk) 19:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Many tornadoes have been unconfirmed/reported multiple times, the count can definitely go up as info is sorted. MemeGod ._. (talk) 19:46, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Title

I think this is more of a tornado outbreak than tornado outbreak sequence 2600:1014:B138:C8E6:0:6:4FAE:3701 (talk) 19:46, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a tornado outbreak sequence, as violent tornadoes were reported on April 26, 27 and 28. MemeGod ._. (talk) 19:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Only one violent tornafo occurred, plus a tornado outbreak sequence has to be 5 days or longer 2600:1014:B138:C8E6:0:6:4FAE:3701 (talk) 19:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Doesn't have to have a minimum amount of days (a few days suffices)
  2. Sorry, not violent, EF2+. There have been 3+ days of EF2+ tornadoes.
MemeGod ._. (talk) 19:51, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly may continue until the 31 if a tornado occurs today 2600:1014:B138:C8E6:0:6:4FAE:3701 (talk) 19:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This was caused by two separate systems in close proximity, so this suffices as a sequence. See above discussions. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 19:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ardmore tornado

Why is it listed as an EF?. It is shown as an EF2 on the DAT. 2600:1014:B138:C8E6:0:6:4FAE:3701 (talk) 19:58, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Holdenville tornado

The DAT only list its as an EF3, not EF3+ 2600:1014:B138:C8E6:0:6:4FAE:3701 (talk) 20:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As of a few minutes ago, the Holdenville tornado is no longer listed as EF3+ here. TornadoLGS (talk) 20:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey ClueBot!!

I’ve got a few obsolete talk page entries on here to be archived. 2601:5C5:4201:68B0:1C33:5BDD:23B8:FA6D (talk) 05:06, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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