Talk:Wesley Snipes

Florida

He graduated from a Florida high school.

No one knows where? [--Slogankid 16:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

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[User:Mike Halterman|Mike H]] (Talking is hot) 01:55, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

No, I haven't been able to find out what school he graduated from however, I plan to change the article so that it points out the fact that he did not graduate from SUNY Purchase. kc12286 21:53, 8 November 2006 (UTC) kc12286

Chappelle's Show

Is this lame mention even worthy of inclusion? It has nothing to do with the man himself, aside from a poor joke of which he held no involvement. --AWF

I've removed it - if anyone feels that this is unjust, then revert it. Anthropax 11:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Blade: Trinity

Explanation and sources regarding his lawsuit and protest over this film are deserving of mention. --AWF

http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=12815 --AWF

This is the worst article I have ever seen. He "had relations" with a football players girlfriend, then was beaten up? Why is the relevant? Was this where he developed his interest in martial arts? Where is the proof in any of this? This article needs to be removed or rewritten. Jaileer

No Mention of Rising Sun???

Unbelieveable. His first summer blockbuster. Big time opening and very well known.

Muslim or not?

The article appears to contradict itself. Wesley categorized as a former Muslim, and also as a convert to Islam. Is he a Muslim now or not? Anybody knows where can we find articles regarding Wesley Snipes&Islam? Politicallyincorrectliberal 20:36, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I would think that he is Christian now, due to some comments, however, this article does contradict its self... I was confused as well. IronCrow 20:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't have to contradict itself. There are a few cases of people who convert to Islam and after some time lose their faith. One of those allegedly is one of the Australians in Guantanamo Bay. The same could be the case for Wesley Snipes. If that is the case, he's both a convert to Islam, because he once recited the shahadah, and a former Muslim, because he stopped believing. Aecis ^{Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984.} 20:39, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

here's the reference that might help: [1] - "He became a Muslim ... he left the Islamic faith in 1988 ..." --Xorkl000 11:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Neutral Point of View?

Someone went nuts with the criticism of Snipes, including great big headlines about his alleged tax evasion, an accusation of physical abuse, etc. Someone should fix this. Dieziege 04:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

They provided references and sources from generally reasonable sources in all cases. Stating the actions of Snipes, whether Snipes' actions were good or bad, doesn't reflect on the neutrality of the person submitting the information; it reflects on what Wesley Snipes is involved in. NPOV seems fair here to me, imo. Maybe someone should add a section focusing on the charitable causes he is involved in to even things out. Kapn Korea 04:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

There's no way to regard the bizarre formatting choices as NPOV, so I have corrected them.166.127.1.201 19:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, as I learned from Talk:Douglas Wilson (theologian), it all seems to depend on who's editing doesn't it? According to the fellow in the Doug Wilson discussion, any unbalanced criticism must be either removed or appropriately balanced. I, frankly, don't give two cr*ps about Snipes' career, but I think this is clearly a series of accusations masquerading as an article. If I can't put up a (cited) note that someone is apparently affiliated with slavery apologists, it seems inappropriate to heap shame on a B movie actor with scant factual evidence to back it up. Dieziege 01:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and we really can't allow people to clain "Wesley Snipes Doesn't Believe In Paying Taxes HURRR!" unless there's actuall proof of that, such as, I dunno, him saying it. Trolling reverted. 166.127.1.201 19:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

::::Sounds fine. Thanks Santorummm 23:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Enstoolment

I've removed Snipes' enstoolment in Nigeria from the article for now. I've searched high and low, and I couldn't find a single evidence that it has ever happened. To me, it read like a hoax. If it can be proven, it's still there to re-include in the article. But for now, it's probably better to leave it out. Aecis ^{Appleknocker Flophouse} 21:13, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Is it just mean, or are the 2 paragraphes in Early Life saying the same thing? Highlandlord 06:59, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

• They indeed say the same thing. I'll look into it. Thanks for pointing this out :) Aecis ^{Appleknocker Flophouse} 15:15, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

What on earth does enstoolment mean? Also, the source is a message board, not a credible source. I'm taking it out. If you can find a credible source, then put it back in.

-Summer_nascar, 10/17/2006

1902

• The page says snipes was born in 1902 - I don't think hes that old. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.15.211.228 (talk • contribs)

It was vandalism by a notorious IP address. It has since been removed. Wesley Snipes was born in 1962. Aecis ^{I'm too busy acting like I'm not naive} 19:37, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Taxes

He is being investigated--Slogankid 16:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

The case has been filed and there is a warrant for his arrest Michaelh2001 17:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Dear fellow editors: I've added some more detail and made some terminology corrections. Haven't yet had a chance to read the entire indictment.

Mr. Snipes is NOT charged with tax evasion (26 U.S.C. § 7201}. He is charged with conspiracy, making fraudulent claims against the government, and willfully failing to file Federal income tax returns. I've added the citations to the criminal statutes involved. More to come later. Yours, Famspear 20:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

As a side note, it appears the Associated Press is saying that the alleged Rosile tax schemes involved taxpayers in 32 states; the Court in the Rosile injunction case back in 2002 indicated it was a total of 34 states. I'm going with the Court record for now. Yours, Famspear 21:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I am removing the mention that Snipes has taken up residence in Africa. If you follow the citation (and the citation that that links to) it boils down to an anonymous note from someone who claims to work at an airport in an unnamed African country who saw someone who looked like Snipes. PerlKnitter 15:00, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Dear fellow editors: A user changed the heading on the section on tax problems in the article to read "Tax Evasion." I reverted. As noted above, Mr. Snipes is not charged with "tax evasion." We need to be very careful about being correct in what we say about a living person. And the tax charges are just that -- charges. No trial has yet occurred, and Mr. Snipes has not been convicted of any of these tax charges. Yours, Famspear 18:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Jones High School in Orlando Florida

Jones High School in Orlando Florida is located at:801 S Rio Grande Ave Orlando, FL 32805,(407) 835-2300, website:http://www.joneshigh.ocps.net/

Why do we focus on Mr, SNIPES with such cruel intentions ?

MR, SNIPES is obviuosly a caring ,loving individual . With strong views on the lives & world of Affrican americans today, in this time an area! many ways and views have been, and still are being undermind. MARTEN LUTHER KING , MALCOM X , MAHATMA-MAGONDI, and countless other stand an shair these same truths! Yet, we as a people /nation MUST open our eyes and minds to the cruelties of a people . keeping in mind also that slaveroy was sapose to have ended in the 40's and we are only 66 years away from! This is only one of the great many views he speeks on ! but MY main focus as an African american . my grandfather wse a slave .& his back spoke of it . my mom also & her mind spoke the same! we had a sapositlly great senator removed from his seat behind a statment spoken from HIS OWN mouth . not becasue it was wrong . yet to save face ! so, unfortunately there is yet an estreemly larg amount of men and wemon that run our great nation .whom shair that senators opinion and views ! so when we speek on a singel man who obviously has overcome a great diservice . buy a people ,to a nation . It's upserd!! no one speeks on the good things he's done. so can we meditate on this ? do we stpo to think. what caused ME to think & feel the ways i do about others. and remember that to every action is a reaction. so have we stoped to see that maybe African americans are simply reacting to the things that has & still is happening to us as a people. in closing . we the people HAVE to stop the inter country terroristic acts to a people . and begen to truely lvie for GOD. & stop using HIM for the reason to do poor & rich AFRICAN american people wrong! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.10.120.254 (talk) 19:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC).

Please use this talk page only to discuss ways to improve the article. The talk page is not for discussing the subject of the article, and most definitely not for only vaguely related issues. Aecis ^{Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984.} 15:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Grammar and spelling are your friend, as is proper capitalization; don't turn your back on them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eno-Etile (talk • contribs) 00:00, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

Scapegoat rhetoric

The following material --relating to the tax charges against Wesley Snipes-- has been moved from the article to here:

This marks the second time Snipes has been used as a scapegoat in the public eye; the first was when R&B singer Christopher Williams pulled Snipes's name seemingly out of the blue when asked who had beaten Halle Berry so badly that she became deaf in one ear. (Williams and Berry had been dating for quite a while when this even took place. It is believed that Williams beat Berry, but used Snipes as a scapegoat due to his dark complexion.)

First, Wikipedia probably cannot take a position on whether Mr. Snipes is being treated as a scapegoat in connection with the tax charges against him. Second, Wikipedia probably cannot be taking a position on whether he was treated as a scapegoat in the Christopher Williams matter either. Third, this verbiage is not neutral point of view. Fourth, it is unsourced (unverifiable). Fifth, the verbiage "It is believed that ..." in the last sentence is blatant weasel wording. Who believes this? Where's the sourcing? Yours, Famspear 19:26, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

PS: By contrast, the verbiage that "Snipes said he was a scapegoat and unfairly targeted [ . . . ]" etc., is sourced, and appears to be fine as it is in the article. This is not Wikipedia saying that Mr. Snipes IS being treated as a scapegoat or being unfairly targeted. This is simply reporting that Mr. Snipes himself is saying that. Quite a difference. Yours, Famspear 19:30, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Dear fellow editors: An anonymous reader at IP 71.124.248.83 has again re-inserted the material above with the following comment:

I don't get why my contribution keeps getting deleted. I'm simply offering more info about Mr. Snipes through a rumor that was about him. And someone really did deafen Halle

At the expense of stating what should be obvious, offering "more info" about Mr. Snipes "through a rumor that was about him" violates a basic rule of Wikipedia: Verifiability. Material removed again. Yours, Famspear 20:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but I specifically stated that it was a rumor. The part about Christopher Williams accusing Snipes of beating Berry after being accused himself is true. Look it up if you really need a source. And I was simply stating that the rumor was out there. If there was a rumor that George Clooney is gay or something like that, it would be acceptable because it's just a rumor. But somehow this is different because the Wiki elites can't have any random users editing pages despite doing a fine job. If you can word my change to the article any better, please do so. Oh, and my old username (Felonious_Drunk) was banned because the Wiki people thought I was imitating Felonious_Monk, who I now know is a user on here. The name was actually a play on the musician Thelonious Monk, perhaps you've heard of him? So I don't know how I can attempt to impersonate a Wiki mod/admin/employee/whatever that I've never even heard of. That's like saying anyone with similar names on here are copying each other. And I realize this isn't the right place to complain about this but the admin who banned that username wouldn't respond to messages. So please try to stop being such control freaks and just accept that other people know things that you don't, and we're not out to impersonate you, especially when not many people can even name one mod on here. That is all.

--Felonious_Drunk (who is anything but a copycat) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.124.248.83 (talk) 01:13, 31 January 2007 (UTC).

Dear Felonious Drunk/IP 71.124.248.83: Thank you for sharing your feelings with us. Lots of things that are "true" are not properly includible in an encyclopedia article. Further, the "truth" of your material has not been established. I and the other Wikipedia editors -- who have not tried to insert this material -- do not need to "look it up." You are the one trying to insert the material. In particular, this is an article about a living person. Regardless of whether you feel the material is true or not -- and even if the material were true -- Wikipedia has certain rules about defamatory material in Wikipedia articles. I believe I previously posted a link to the Wikipedia rules on your user talk page.

Your statement that something is "acceptable because it's just a rumor" is incorrect. Further, this is not a question of anyone being "elitist"; neither is it about anyone being prevented from editing "despite doing a fine job." This is about Wikipedia policies, guidelines, etc. Yours, Famspear 02:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Picture

Surely a community of a couple million people can do a better picture of Wesley Snipes then the Blade DVD cover. --Ferdia O'Brien 18:30, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Tax trial postponed

Guess I haven't been checking on this often enough. On Feb. 1, 2007, the criminal tax trial for Mr. Snipes (originally set for March 2007) was postponed until October. According to the Court Order entered on Feb. 1, 2007, the prosecution and the defense agreed to (and requested) the delay, due to the massive volume of materials that the attorneys are having to wade through, plus schedule conflicts for the defense attorneys. Article has been updated accordingly. Yours, Famspear 15:04, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

PS: I should clarify that the Court, in footnote 1 of its Order, noted that Mr. Snipes and co-defendant Mr. Rosile agreed to the postponement. The Court stated in its order that the parties had not been able to directly contact co-defendant Mr. Kahn (who has elected not to have a lawyer), as Mr. Kahn "is presently in the custody of the United States Marshal at the Marion County Jail [ . . . .]" The Court therefore assumed that Mr. Kahn was opposed to the postponement, but ordered the postponement anyway. Yours, Famspear 15:13, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Porn Star!!

Wesley Snipes is believed to be unhappy about there being a porn actor called Wesley Pipes(I kid you not!), due to his very similar sounding name. At the moment Snipes has a lot of problems in his life to deal with (see article). However when these are resolved and hopefully with his liberty intacted, Snipes may persue legal action in the form of a cease and desist order, to stop this porn using his very similar moniker! --loren3 11:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC)