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The result was delete‎. There is a consensus here to Delete this article. Article subject doesn't have the necessary notability for their own article. It might be TOOSOON. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deepankaj Poonia

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Not yet notable per WP:NACTOR or WP:BIO, with only minor roles so far and no significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Declined five times at draft for same reasons, and speedied twice as spam, for which another single-purpose account was eventually indefinitely blocked for advertising. Wikishovel (talk) 05:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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what's your problem ? , every time you nominate for deletion, are you taking any personal revenge or you didn't get paid for this article creation. 103.206.172.223 (talk) 05:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please log back in. Wikishovel (talk) 05:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

so what's your problem ? if he did minor roles, at least he is doing his job, and trying very hard to make his name , people like you don 't support it, you just keep deleting , because you didn't get paid for that and getting jealous , you just support nepotism

indefinitely blocked for advertising - Because some fellow people created his articles so that so people like you delete it later as spam.

this time gave mentioned valid references , and it should be not deleted . 103.206.172.223 (talk) 06:06, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please don’t pass unnecessary comments, be polite and follow Wikipedia guidelines Editorharpsweetrolls (talk) 06:49, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have provided valid references. It doesn’t matter if someone did small roles or big , we need to appreciate it . And help to create articles for them . Editorharpsweetrolls (talk) 06:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please understand that as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia isn't intended to document every actor who's ever appeared in a film: that's the job of film databases like IMDB. There are notability guidelines and policies for Wikipedia, which in this case include notability of actors, notability of people and the general notability guidelines. Articles on Wikipedia aren't meant to help someone or something become notable, but rather to document people and things which are already notable. Wikishovel (talk) 08:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: not enough mentions in RS (hardly any), not meeting notability. I can only find what's used in the article, none of which prove notability. Oaktree b (talk) 12:02, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"The Google Knowledge Panel, IMDb links, and movie articles are enough for it as its first project. Also, it was not a minor role, but a significant one, showing a guest role. It is better not to delete the article and to support it." Editorharpsweetrolls (talk) 16:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"If there is a mistake in the article, it's better to correct it rather than appeal to delete it. It doesn’t make any sense." Editorharpsweetrolls (talk) 16:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is a mistake, but I can't correct it as using IMdB is not a reliable source, the Google knowledge panel is not a reliable source and the movie links are trivial coverage. We require stories about the person, not a laundry list of things they've done. Oaktree b (talk) 14:26, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For stories news articles wants huge amounts of money to publish, and there is no connection with them , if you have any you can give and ask to publish stories or I can connect you with the actor, you can ask the details and create an article.

there nothing I can do it now , if you want to delete article then delete , I’m done with this , this so frustrating, gonna delete my account too , not gonna use Wikipedia though

good bye Editorharpsweetrolls (talk) 15:02, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Ole Aale. That seems to be the first movie he was in, so it would make sense, even though the article is very weak. 71.246.78.77 (talk) 12:20, 19 June 2024 (UTC) Checkuser blocked. Queen of Hearts ^talk 23:55, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles about a person's first movie serve as important historical records of their career's beginning. They provide context and background that can be valuable for understanding their professional development and trajectory over time. Deleting these articles would erase critical early documentation of their work and contributions, which could be of interest to fans, researchers, and industry professionals. Editorharpsweetrolls (talk) 16:43, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"It's better to delete the previous articles but not this one. If the article is very weak, try to help and make it stronger." Editorharpsweetrolls (talk) 16:56, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the subject lacks significant coverage in reliable secondary sources and thus fails WP:NACTOR, WP:BIO, and WP:GNG. Let me also comment on someone's statement above that "if the article is very weak, try to help and make it stronger." Without significant coverage in reliable sources, there is nothing to make stronger, and any attempts to do so would still fail to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Wikipedia is not a platform for documenting and promoting individuals who have not yet met the notability criteria. Zingarese talk · contribs (please mention me on reply; thanks!) 03:02, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Don’t delete @Oaktree b@TheChronikler7@Wikishovel@Zingarese
He is not only an actor; he is a model too. Check his work; he has collaborated with many brands. Attached are a few links to his work. This article is not to be deleted.

According to Wikipedia guidelines, a person may be considered notable if they have had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. He has achieved this through his work in film and his extensive modeling projects with various brands.

This version includes the guideline reference and provides context for his notability.

https://cooldown.co.in/products/72-orange-mens-sando

https://watch.plex.tv/person/deepankaj-poonia

https://www.filmiforest.com/celebs/deepankaj-poonia/biography.html

https://www.lavanguardia.com/peliculas-series/personas/deepankaj-poonia-4426303

https://www.gadgets360.com/entertainment/ole-aale-movie-123077

https://rangmarathi.com/tag/ole-aale-movie-booking/

Deepankaj Poonia

https://g.co/kgs/nc1R26p Editorharpsweetrolls (talk) 14:21, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails to meet WP:NACTOR. TheChronikler7 (talk) 10:39, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
*Dont delete- here are few articles about him.

https://starsgazette.com/news/deepankaj-poonia-a-rising-star-shines-bright-in-modeling-and-films/0455978

https://www.livenewsviews.com/deepankaj-poonia-a-rising-star-shines-bright-in-modeling-and-films-81782431190430385 https://malaysiantalks.com/news/deepankaj-poonia-a-rising-star-shines-bright-in-modeling-and-films/0455978

https://thewitnessdaily.com/news/deepankaj-poonia-a-rising-star-shines-bright-in-modeling-and-films/0455978

https://suratkhabar.com/news/deepankaj-poonia-a-rising-star-shines-bright-in-modeling-and-films/0455978

https://starjournals.com/news/deepankaj-poonia-a-rising-star-shines-bright-in-modeling-and-films/0455978

https://buzzingasia.com/news/deepankaj-poonia-a-rising-star-shines-bright-in-modeling-and-films/0455978

https://dailyinsidescoop.com/news/deepankaj-poonia-a-rising-star-shines-bright-in-modeling-and-films/0455978

https://enterhollywood.com/news/deepankaj-poonia-a-rising-star-shines-bright-in-modeling-and-films/0455978 Editorharpsweetrolls (talk) 02:30, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikishovel@Oaktree b@TheChronikler7@Zingarese@ kindly close the discussion and remove deletion from article. as now given sources. Editorharpsweetrolls (talk) 01:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's all the same article multiple times and it's a press release, which is not a reliable source. None of these are helpful. Oaktree b (talk) 02:06, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:NACTOR and obvious UPE target.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 16:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:12, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daren Streblow

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Highly promotional article (more in the history) of a non-notable comedian. Not a single acceptable secondary source proving notability is included and I can't find any--it's all announcements and links to his podcast on Google (including News and Books). This is the best I can find. Drmies (talk) 21:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. Kablammo (talk) 11:42, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: per the original nomination, he seems famous to some degree but little notability Wiiformii (talk) 02:41, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails both WP:GNG and WP:ENT. — YoungForever^(talk) 22:58, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:11, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Era Tak

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Fails WP:NBIO. Current references are mostly primary or from YouTube. There are a couple to Amar Ujala, but they don't seem to meet WP:SIGCOV. There doesn't seem to be much improvement in terms of references when compared to the previous afd at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Era Tak. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 23:18, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nomination, still not yet notable per WP:CREATIVE. Couldn't find SIGCOV in RS in English or Hindi (इरा टाक) - apart from what's cited here already all I could find was a typical WP:NEWSORGINDIA softball interview on News 18. Wikishovel (talk) 05:26, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:SIGCOV. The article seems to be more promotional. Ciudatul (talk) 10:12, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Poor unreliable sources on the page. Page reads as publicity WP:PROMO. Fails notability with no significant achievement or influence notable by the subject. RangersRus (talk) 14:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination. Agree with others that this is a poorly ref-bombed WP:PROMO. No significant coverage. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:16, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Neither of the two Keep views offered a cogent, P&G-based argument, and were discarded, leaving us with a unanimous consensus to delete. Owen× ☎ 21:33, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Huston Huddleston

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This subject appears to fall afoul of WP:CRIM, specifically the criminal...should be the subject of a Wikipedia article only if one of the following applies: 1) The victim of the crime is a renowned national or international figure, including, but not limited to, politicians or celebrities; or 2) The motivation for the crime or the execution of the crime is unusual—or has otherwise been considered noteworthy—such that it is a well-documented historic event. Generally, historic significance is indicated by sustained coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources which persists beyond contemporaneous news coverage and devotes significant attention to the individual's role.

I would contend that neither of these conditions is met. I don't think there's any argument that the motivation or execution of the crime itself was unusual or of historic importance, or that the victim was a renowned individual. While it was stated at RFUD that the subject is a high-profile individual, coverage since their fall from grace (i.e. post-2018) is extremely limited, and that which does exist ([1]) suggests that the subject is intentionally avoiding the limelight and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Following the guidance at Wikipedia:Who is a low-profile individual, I would conclude that Huddleston is a low-profile individual at this time.

Even before the indictment, significant coverage in RS is limited to the context of Hollywood Sci-Fi Museum; if we had an article on that topic (or if the biography of his father Floyd Huddleston, made any mention of Huston and/or we had a source to back up that claim) a redirect outcome would be appropriate, but we don't at this time. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 14:43, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Floyd Huddleston does mention Huston:

"On December 30, 1965, Huddleston married Nancy Adams, a commercial jingle singer, at the First Baptist Church chapel in Memphis, Tennessee. Huddleston died from a heart attack on September 27, 1991, at a hospital located in Panorama City, Los Angeles. Huddleston was survived by his wife Nancy, his son, Huston, and his mother, Hettye T. Huddleston." Miri1966 (talk) 17:32, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Please also note that Huston Huddleston has not been avoiding limelight and has been making independent films (hiring underage actresses) which he has posted about on his own social media. It does not seem relevant to include in the article but it is in context for why the article should remain. Miri1966 (talk) 17:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:NOTINHERITED. Angryapathy (talk) 17:43, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say his notability is due entirely to being Floyd Huddleston's son, only that it is not true that Floyd's biography fails to mention him.

His notability is anchored in his own activities as a writer/director which are ongoing; the museum project which has had numerous news articles and financial campaigns; his conviction which merits documentation as he has continued to work in both listed areas. Miri1966 (talk) 19:54, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep added a couple articles I don't think this guy deserves an article but he is attempting to open a museum for kids as a convicted pedophile. This is a developing situation in the media with a lot of coverage .Since it is in the public interest and ongoing , I vote keep. Bigwombat (talk) 07:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is a perfect example of WP:ONEEVENT. The news stories picked it up for a news cycle, and then immediately didn't care about him. He wasn't notable before or after the short flurry of news coverage. Angryapathy (talk) 15:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This has been an ongoing event for years between 2018 and 2024 and there are additional news sources that I can provide - additional information may still be pending. This information being captured here has been critical. Miri1966 (talk) 17:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I know AfD is not cleanup but in its current state this article is so incoherent that there is no credible claim to notability (basically what others have said above), which makes assessing sources for GNG kinda irrelevant. The two !votes to keep are unconvincing – the first doesn't seem to be based on policy at all, while the second says I don't think this guy deserves an article (not sure if that's argued on grounds of morality or notability) and seems to be taking a RGW perspective. Toadspike [Talk] 19:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:16, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Himanshu Sharma

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Failes WP:GNG, WP:PRODUCER. Nothing special found any search engine! Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 05:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Fairly meets WP:CREATIVE with at least 8 credits as writer of notable films. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC) +significant awards that have him meet WP:ANYBIO + coverage that seems to have him meet GNG....[reply]
The current sourcing is not very good, though. All that's there are two or three short articles with maybe two paragraphs describing him between them, a social media announcement, and an IMDB profile. Mrfoogles (talk) 20:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe if you count the IMDB profile as one source, and one/multiple of the news articles as another? Mrfoogles (talk) 20:50, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This writer has received at least 2 nationally significant awards, which is sourced + meets WP:CREATIVE for his multiple credits as writer (also sourced), so I am leaving it at that, as I consider the requirement for notability is met. two or three short articles with maybe two paragraphs describing him between them may be considered a description of significant coverage. Thanks. Just added 2 sources. Feel free to remove ImDb. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:16, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong Keep: A triple fulfillment of notability guidelines (GNG, ANYBIO, and FILMMAKER). The subject person is the sole writer of six notable films, namely Tanu Weds Manu, Tanu Weds Manu Returns, Mr. Pellikoduku, Raanjhanaa, Zero, and Atrangi Re, fulfilling WP:FILMMAKER#3. He also won two National Film Awards, a Filmfare Award, and a Times of India Film Awards, fulfilling WP:ANYBIO#1. I have also found personal interviews with the subject person (see Times of India[2], The Telegraph[3], and India Today[4]), and media coverage on his personal life (see The Indian Express[5][6], Times of India[7], and NDTV [8]), fulfilling WP:GNG as well. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:11, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Snow Keep per Prince of Erebor's sources. DareshMohan (talk) 00:21, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Participants argue that NACTOR is met here. Deletion rationale is underwhelming and not solidly based in policy or evidence of BEFORE. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:25, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Philip Daniel Bolden

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Non notable. Minor roles. Bedivere (talk) 01:46, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong Keep: The subject person clearly had lead roles in Are We There Yet? (see Screen Rant [9] and Republic TV [10]), Are We Done Yet? (see The New York Times[11] and BBC [12]), and Fly Me to the Moon (see NYT[13] and The Augusta Chronicle[14]), in addition to a supporting role in How to Eat Fried Worms (see Slant Magazine[15] and NYT[16]), so he clearly meets NACTOR#1. Besides, it was stated that the subject person has won one Young Artist Award and been nominated for another, which fulfills ANYBIO#1 for multiple nominations. I have noticed this is the second nomination of the same article, while the nominator has failed to provide any additional rationale or evidence from the previous discussion to demonstrate this article is non-notable. Unless the nominator can provide further elaboration, this appears to be an obvious keep case that may even qualify for a borderline speedy. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 05:08, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: WP:NACTOR seems indeed met. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:44, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

James Cade

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Not notable. A series of film and theatre reviews in which Cade is mentioned as a cast member do not constitute significant coverage. Searches for sources produce more of the same. — HTGS (talk) 02:08, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong Keep: I think this one is an obvious keep. The subject person has taken part in numerous films, series, and theatre plays. For films, he had notable roles in Antiviral and Stardust, both of which were mentioned in multiple sources (see Toronto Sun[17] and IndieWire[18] for Antiviral; GQ[19] and The Hollywood Reporter[20] for Stardust). For TV, he was credited in a main role in Gangland Undercover (see Comingsoon.net [21]) and The Big Cigar (see The Economic Times[22] and The Hollywood Reporter[23]), as well as a recurring role in Blue Mountain State (see Screen Rant[24] and TheWrap[25]). For plays, the article already mentioned that he co-led the Dora Award-winning A Quiet Place, and I also found that he had a lead role in Free as Injuns, supported by reviews from The Globe and Mail[26] and National Post[27] which praised the subject person's performance. Obviously fulfills WP:NACTOR#1. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 07:16, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree that any of these roles are significant, and while “significant” might be subjective, the coverage you’ve linked goes as far as literally mentioning his name, or maybe saying “…and James Cade [is] also on board.” The best I can see there is “There's definitely sizzle between Cade and Prudat as Even and Be”. None of this suggests notability to me. Even the roles he is credited as starring are not backed up by sources which say anything more than merely confirming his name. — HTGS (talk) 06:36, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HTGS: You misunderstood my point. The reason I cited those sources was not because they have SIGCOV about the subject person, but rather to demonstrate that he had lead roles in those projects. The fact that he was credited in main role for Gangland Undercover, recurring role for Blue Mountain State and The Big Cigar, and was described as the male lead in Free as Injuns in multiple reviews, likely outweighs your subjective assessment of whether these roles are significant. This undoubtedly shows the subject person has fulfilled the NACTOR#1 of having significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, and stage performances, while GNG is not considered by me, nor the other Wikipedians commented in this discussion. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 07:20, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You keep using words like undoubtedly, but nowhere does policy say that a leading role is enough to confer notability. My read is that significant roles get at least moderate coverage. These roles aren’t getting even mild coverage. I am prepared to be outvoted though, that’s fine—as I say, “significant” is subjective—but it seems far from “obvious” or “beyond doubt” that any of these roles confer notability. — HTGS (talk) 03:12, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HTGS: AFD discussion is not a vote. But yea, multiple Wikipedians have found those roles to be significant, and I used words like undoubtedly because I did not expect there would be disagreement on this. Some of the roles are literally credited as main roles. I do not believe it is a subjective assessment, nor should significant roles be determined on subjective assessment. I beg to differ with your interpretation, no guideline defines significant roles as requiring a certain amount of coverage. As long as the lead roles are backed by reliable sources, they are lead roles. A lead role in a film will not be reduced to a supporting role simply because there are insufficient sources covering the film. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 05:00, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In your opinion, should WP:NACTOR then say “lead roles” instead of “significant roles”? Because I assumed there was some distinction between the two, and that there was a reason the guideline says significant. If we are merely looking for leading or “main” roles, then we may as well say so.

I’m also curious whether you actually agree with NACTOR here, and you’re not just following rules as written? This reading gives notability to persons who do not gain any significant coverage whatsoever. — HTGS (talk) 05:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HTGS: I think the word "significant" is used in a broader sense to include roles beyond just main roles, such as supporting/recurring roles, as well as guest roles that receive extensive coverage or attention. The reason I specifically mentioned "main role" is because main roles are usually officially credited, and this subject person has received such credits in multiple projects, addressing your doubts about whether the roles I listed were subjective assessments. And yes, as I stated, I believe the subject person has fulfilled NACTOR#1, and I agree that he has sufficient significant/notable roles that warrant an independent article, so it should be a keep. Arguments on whether there are sources providing SIGCOV on the subject person are more likely referring to WP:GNG, which I did not consider in this case. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 05:41, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that you think NACTOR has been met; I’m asking if you think it should be regarded as a useful rule here. The guideline itself says “People are likely to be notable if they meet any of the following standards … meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included.”

The roles at hand are still subjective assessments, because not every main role is significant. Unless you think we should regard all main roles as significant roles. — HTGS (talk) 03:05, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HTGS: I do not understand the point you are making in your first sentence. As you have already mentioned, I have quoted NACTOR multiple times, so if I do not think it is a "useful rule", then why I would cite it???

And no, please take a more careful look at the guidelines. It writes significant roles in multiple notable [projects], not "roles in multiple notable projects that are significant". A main role is of course a significant part of a project. A film could not be made without a lead cast! So main roles are of course significant roles. Even if your interpretation was applied, the films and series we have listed all have their own independent articles, which means they are notable. So main roles in these notable projects should be considered significant, simple! With all due respect, I really do not see a point of ambiguity or reasonable basis for disagreement in this case, because you seem to have either misinterpreted or tried to override WP:SNG with GNG, and be the only one to identify the roles with subjective assessments here. At least two main roles and one recurring role on TV, two lead roles in stage plays, two supporting roles in films. Obvious keep, that is all I have to say. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 04:41, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: meets WP:NACTOR with at least two roles easily identifiable as significant (in Stardust and Blue MS) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:17, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Passes NACTOR through roles in Let's Get Physical, Gangland Undercover, Cascade and Blue Mountain State. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 14:09, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:36, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

James Chean

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This is a BLP of a filmmaker. I have moved an interview with him from the external links section to a reference. I have carried out WP:BEFORE but have not found sources to add, so don't think he meets WP:GNG or WP:FILMMAKER. Tacyarg (talk) 23:08, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The fact that this person was interviewed by The Myanmar Times interested me, so I conducted a thorough search for sources, looking up every single movie he was involved with. However, I could only find one review from Variety on The Last Eve,[28] which the subject person made a glancing mention as one of four executive producers. In other words, his entire filmography consists of either unnotable projects or roles that were too minor to be considered significant contributions to the productions. I then saw that he was said to have debuted in Hong Kong action cinema, so I tried to look him up on the Hong Kong Movie Database (where information is generally well-preserved), but I could not even find him listed. With only one interview source and all their film involvement being insignificant, the subject person fails both GNG and NACTOR. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 18:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, I was not able to find anything beyond the source search conducted by Prince of Erebor, and all of the major pieces are interviews and therefor not independent. Fails N. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 16:12, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails both WP:GNG and WP:FILMMAKER. Hardly any coverage on his projects as a filmmaker. — YoungForever^(talk) 22:31, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:52, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Calabar Chic

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Fails WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG. There’s in short, no piece that is independent of the subject to establish notability. BEFORE does not provide anything different. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:32, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List_of_Nigerian_actors#Actresses: she has some credits in films and coverage, although including a lot of interviews (but a lot, and in various media), allow to verify she's a Nigerian actress who might have a certain notoriety. Hence this WP:ATD -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:37, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

-->Changing to Keep per WP:HEY thanks to the work of User:Ahola .O since nomination, including sources showing a certain notability as comedian.

Delete Limited coverage, no evidence she meets the guidelines. Not in favour of redirection, per WP:LISTPURP and no point redirecting to a page where she isn't mentioned. Mdann52 (talk) 18:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep From my search, subject seems notable and has significant coverage. She has featured in some films and has some level of notability in comedy. I made some improvements on the page as well. I hope it helps Mevoelo (talk) 20:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect: I agree with moving the article about Calabar Chic to the List of Nigerian Actresses, which is a more general page. Due to a lack of coverage, the article doesn't meet WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG guidelines. Redirecting will put her mentions in the right place. It will keep helpful content while following Wikipedia's guidelines. It also links the subject to a relevant, broader topic.--AstridMitch (talk) 05:18, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I also agree to keep the page because she meets WP:NACTOR guidelines, she has roles in notable films, television shows, stage performances, and other productions, some are listed on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahola .O (talk • contribs) 06:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was not going to reply specifically to anyone in this discussion, but I have to now since I think you’re misinterpreting NACTOR. One thing is for the films they starred in to be notable, another thing is for their roles in the films to be significant. This is not the case here even in the tiniest bit. Her roles in these films was a significant role, she clearly doesn’t pass the guideline. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:37, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aside from some interviews and passing mentions, there is not enough to fulfill WP:GNG. As she only had minor roles, WP:NACTOR is not fulfilled either. A redirect to List of Nigerian actors#Actresses as mentioned above is not feasible per WP:LISTPEOPLE. Non-notable subjects should not be included in lists of people. Hence my recommendation to Delete, perhaps just a case of WP:TOOSOON. Broc (talk) 08:10, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. A Google search of the subject shows several newspaper sources that interviewed her. These type of sources are primary sources and cannot be used to establish notability. She has starred in multiple films that are notable, but as someone else pointed out, she did not have a major role in any of those films. I think this is a case of WP:TOOSOON. She has the potential of being notable within a year or two. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 14:48, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: sourcing is fine, [29] as well. Most is celebrity coverage articles, but they give background and some context into tragic and not-so-tragic events in this person's life as of late. Oaktree b (talk) 14:46, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Sourcing is fine but they’re mostly interviews (save for this one here). She has featured in some movie but not in a major role. Probably too early for an entry. Best, Reading Beans 09:21, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Lots of interviews by reliable sources, which is a potential indication of (future) notability, but they don't offer enough secondary journalistic coverage outside of the transcript to meet GNG. Definitely a case of WP:TOOSOON. I imagine the subject will be notable in a year or two. C F A 💬 21:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 03:21, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eugene C. Lee

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Only one (arguably) notable credit, likely to fail WP:NACTOR. KH-1 (talk) 02:27, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, lacks significant coverage. Fulmard (talk) 06:05, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: this person is not notable enough and doesn't fit the notability guidelines for people. EncyclopediaEditorXIV (talk) 19:40, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: This article doesn't seem to meet the criteria for a biography, lacks depth and notability. Waqar💬 20:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rheji Burrell

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I am not sure how this article looked back in 2012 when the first AfD came about, but now the article is confusing because it doesn't seem to know whether it wants to be about Mr. Burrell alone or about him and his brother. At any rate, the article discusses a non-notable production team(?) whose own discography hasn't seen them ever having charted; and the list of albums that they supposedly produced for other artists isn't sourced. It doesn't help that the article reads like the brothers themselves wrote it. Erpert ^{blah, blah, blah...} 04:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. In 2012, the article looked pretty much the same as now. It still needs work, obviously, but WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP. I see no reason to disagree with the earlier consensus on notability, which is not lost, and the adequate sourcing turned up in WP:BEFORE searches done during the first AfD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Beyond this [30], I don't find anything about this person or the pair of them. Oaktree b (talk) 02:57, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep exercising WP:AGF as in the first AfD linked at the top left of this discussion a respected editor Michig identified a number of book sources that convinced him it passed WP:GNG although a number of the links no longer work, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:59, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. ✗plicit 03:28, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Andrews (actor)

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Working actor, reasonable career, but I couldn't find sources available to confirm he meets WP:NACTOR / WP:GNG. Lots of mentions on less reliable sites/blogs. Weak keep in 2006 when our standards were much lower. Boleyn (talk) 07:41, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: One quite notable role and some mildly notable ones have him meet WP:NACTOR, which is the applicable guideline. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC) PS- Added various sources and think the subject also meets WP:GNG with significant coverage in multiple reliable sources addressing the subject in depth and directly....:D[reply]

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Keep, roles add up to enough. Hyperbolick (talk) 08:07, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete: it's not about whether the roles are significant or not, it is about whether the role is significant or not. and so far... the only significant role i can find is his role as tommy doyle from halloween. other roles/movies listed in the article do not really make him significant, failing WP:NACTOR brachy08 _{(chat here lol)} 08:56, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:10, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jerry Newton

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The article seems to attempt to inherit notability from Wayne Newton, Jerry's younger brother. WP:NOTINHERITED applies. Checking the references is challenging. Jerry does appear, generally with reference to the sibling, and as a passing reference to Jerry. The article seems to be more a tribute (WP:NOTMEMORIAL applies) than anything else. Jerry was obviously notable to those who loved and respected him, but the references do not show a pass of any of WP:BIO, WP:NMUSICIAN, nor WP:NACTOR. Releasing records does not mean notability, nor does a bit part in an episode of Bonanza where he is listed as a cast member, but his part was not a named character. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I agree with the nominator, as Jerry had a minor career as an entertainer but with no achievements on his own that satisfy our notability requirements. He is only mentioned briefly in sources about his much more famous brother. This article is probably an attempted memorial. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 17:48, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:NOTINHERITED and WP:NOTMEMORIAL certainly and his career is alongside his brother, then minor bit parts and a lawsuit...— Iadmc ♫^talk 20:44, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Wayne Newton. There's potential for five extra articles that can have him as a redirect. Simple solution and we can also preserve the history as well. Cheers Karl Twist (talk) 03:27, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Deletion rationale should be more specific on which notability guideline the nominator believes this article subject fails. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:54, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dean Webb

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Doesn't meet the notability guideline. Knowledgegatherer23 (Say Hello) 21:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note to the closing admin. I would like ask please that if by chance the consensus leans towards deletion, we look at redirecting the page to Ivor Kirchin, Basil Kirchin as he was a member of The Kirchin Band for a year, having replaced the featured singer Rory Blackwell in 1957. Webb stayed with the band for a year and I believe sang on at least two recordings. He was involved with both Ivor and Basil. This would also preserve the history. Thanks Karl Twist (talk) 06:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, there's a couple of good articles in the The British Newspaper archive. Unfortunately its pay so you can read thing. There's also this article with his picture below,
Disc, No. 67 Week ending May 16, 1959 - Page 7 THE BLACKSMITH WHO PREFERRED BEAT TO THE ANVIL CHORUS, Big break
I haven't got time to comb through the other UK music trade magazines and a lot of the earlier ones can't be word searched. So it's a case of having to go through all the content of this often faded but thankfully preserved historical music info.
I'm satisfied to call this a keep. Karl Twist (talk) 10:47, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as has reliable newspaper coverage as referenced in the article so that WP:GNG is passed and deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:32, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Due to lack of participation. Malinaccier (talk) 17:49, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michal Suchánek

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Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG, respectively because his roles are limited to supporting/minor characters and article lacks sufficient sources. He was last known for starring in The Andromeda Strain before disappearing from the entertainment industry in 2008. My Google searches exclusively showed coverage about the Czech actor but nothing about the younger Michal Suchánek. No news have been reported on him for more than 15 years either. Clara A. Djalim (talk) 13:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Some roles seem verry very mildly significant. But the 1st source on the page mentions 1 Emmy nomination and 2 Young Artist Award nominations which may have him meet ANYBIO. Notable as a child actor, then.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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delete no evidence of notability, no independent coverage. noms are not awards. - Altenmann >talk 19:58, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Discarding canvassed votes and views not based on P&G, there is rough consensus to delete. Owen× ☎ 13:03, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Salman Muqtadir

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Sources are trivial (included in a list of other youtubers) and non-independent. One significant coverage is about his investigation by the police. No other significant independent secondary source covering his popularity as a content creator. - AlbeitPK (talk) 01:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Most of the sources cover the police investigating him. That is not enough to satisfy WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 17:42, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: An article that doesn't meet WP:ENT for inclusion on Wikipedia. While I couldn't find any clue in the former AFDs that I still hold deep breath of how it had survived two–three discussions. I am not going to base in any past whatsoever but here is the source analysis and final conclusion. source 1 is a primary source but it verifies the content as used in most of the articles like that per WP:PRIMARYSOURCE. Source 2 is good for sourcing but doesn't support the 'wife marriage'. source 3 is an obvious advert and interview making me suspect the credibility/reliability of source 2. Source 4 is unreliable, and source 5 looks like an advertorial unverifiable publication. Source 6, source 7, and source 8 contributes to a non notable controversy and I call it WP:BLP1E because the said event is not notable for a standalone article. [31] and [32] supports a non notable film and book, hence doesn't meet WP:NACTOR or WP:NAUTHOR. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 21:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not a notable person Md Joni Hossain (talk) 18:24, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Previously I nominated this article for Afd and my view still same. There is no WP:SIGCOV and fails WP:GNG. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:56, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Article has been improved and more reliable sources are added, such as The Daily Star or Prothom Alo. Popular national reliable newspapers claim that Salman Muqtadir is a popular YouTuber and actor and there are a bunch of sources about him from reliable sites. Although some news are about his marriage or other things but they are published independently about him and declared him as YouTuber, influencer or actor. Therefore GNG has been able to establish. Ontor22 (talk) 12:03, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Daily star tag link you showed popped paid/sponsored articles [33], [34], [35], and [36]. They doesn't credibly means this article won't met notability later. See WP:LOTSOFSOURCES and know there isn't any amount of sources you add to a non notable person to be notable. On the aspect scene of YouTube, famous people are celebrities bur that doesn't mean try are notable. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 18:58, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
News from The Daily Star are not paid or sponsored articles at all. Other news channels including Daily Star use disclaimers on sponsored articles but these are not. His marriage news appeared in multiple news channels.

See his marriage news from Prothom alo, Dhaka Tribune, The Business Standard.

Older articles about him also show his prominence.

See these article from Prothom Alo 1 2, Bangla Tribune, The Business Standard, Jagonews24

Salman Muktadir is not only YouTuber but also worked in various entertainment fields including television, stage performance which established his notability based on WP:ENT. Ontor22 (talk) 06:46, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - He is notable on YouTube as an influencer & content creator. but doesn't meet WP:BIO or WP:ENT for inclusion on Wikipedia.--DelwarHossain (talk) 11:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - He is notable person. I agree with Ontor22. Yubrajhn (talk) 19:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Procedural relist to rescue lost AfD. There's close to a consensus to delete here, but not something I'm comfortable closing as myself given the promises I made to stay out of using my admin tools for tricky content issues.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DELETE Not notable enough for Wikipedia standards. Jaunpurzada (talk) 00:16, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP After four consecutive AFDs, the article mostly survives on Wikipedia. Still, there is a stir among editors. Mainly his being a YouTuber, but he has also worked in drama and music which makes him notable under WP:ENT. Mafmes (talk) 03:17, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:06, 21 June 2024 (UTC)‎[reply]

Neil Fitzwiliam

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No significant coverage and not enough major roles. SL93 (talk) 00:39, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Dance, Television, and England. SL93 (talk) 00:41, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Theatre-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: An article that doesnt meet WP:NACTOR. No major roles too and unverified sources. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 09:40, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Recommend keeping. Career cut short but a fine actor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:80:8600:e920:494d:5551:3317:934a (talk) 12:22, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Wikipedia is not a database for actors. All the content should go to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0280666/. SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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