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Please remove this "Thanksgiving: The Jewish Perspective on Chabad.org " from external link! I dont understand who care about Jewish and Thanksgiving —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.237.7.82 (talk) 21:01, 8 November 2007 (UTC) [reply]

I have removed the redirect to the Thanksgiving disambiguation page. Since Thanksgiving itself has an article it needs its own talk page, and the disambiguation page as well needs its own. I got rather confused when I clicked to the talk page then clicked back only to find myself in the wrong article suddenly. I don't know of any precedent for redirecting talk pages as this one was. Russeasby 02:13, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We do not eat yams

it says yams are a featured ingredient in Thanksgiving - and it links to the African/Polynesian yam (genus Dioscarea) - not only is this crop not at all popular or even really known in America or Canada, it CANNOT be grown here. We do eat SWEET POTATOS (Ipomeoa batatas), which is mentioned, but WE DO NOT EAT YAMS. I am deleting the yams link.

I eat yams on Thanksgiving. I love yams. Why all the yam hatin', dawg? 71.68.15.63 (talk) 04:12, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is it 3rd or 4th

Make up your mind, what Thursday is it, 3rd or 4th? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.239.129 (talk) 02:58, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is always the 4th Thursday of November. I think sometimes people get confused when there are 5 Thursdays in November. They think, "It was the second-last Thursday in November; that must be the third Thursday." —P^urple ^RA^IN 18:38, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protect?

I noticed last year, and it's starting already this year: As the (U.S.) holiday approaches, a lot more people start viewing this page, and a percentage of them are vandals, which results in a lot more vandalism. I'm sure the page will get semi-protected some time during the next few weeks. Why not be pro-active and do it now, and save a lot of reverting? As soon as Thanksgiving has passed, it can be unprotected again. (The same applies to Thanksgiving (United States).) —Preceding unsigned comment added by PurpleRain (talk • contribs) 14:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Its best to leave it open to editing until an actual problem arises, protecting it now may stop some good faith editors from editing unnecessarily. Russeasby 15:28, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How do you define "an actual problem?" There were 35 edits yesterday, of which perhaps 3 were good-faith edits, and the rest were vandalism or reversion of vandalism. I would call that an actual problem. But even if you don't, what is the criteria for semi-protection? Does there need to be a certain number of bad-faith edits in a single day? Prolonged vandalism over the course of several days? A certain number of distinct vandals?

Remember that semi-protection doesn't preclude editing -- it just requires the user to have an account. Good-faith edits can still happen, and are less likely to be reverted accidentally because they're in the midst of 20 bad-faith edits that are reverted en-masse. —P^urple ^RA^IN 16:03, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I, like you, was simply expressing my opinion. Myself I only like to see articles protected unless absolutely necessary, case of extream edit warring, overwhelming vandalism and such, and even then I prefer to see users blocked rather then articles protected (even semi, anons contribute greatly to WP). Think of the policy of featured article of the day not being protected, even though the vandalism is increadably high, even with the high vandalism, being high profile also encourages some good edits even if they don't seem like much compared to the amount of vandalism. With Thanksgiving approaching this article gets similar attention and among those vandal edits, will be some good anon edits as well. If you wish to see the page protected, then submit a request for it, I wont object. But you asked for input, and I gave my view. Russeasby 16:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your input. I'm sorry if my previous response sounded confrontational. I was sincerely looking for an answer to what constitutes sufficient vandalism to warrant semi-protection. I wasn't aware that there was an official process for requesting protection -- I'll look into that. Thanks for your polite and patient feedback. —P^urple ^RA^IN 16:55, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:RFP to request protection. Russeasby 16:58, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Provide links to complete texts of Washington's, Adam's, Thanksgiving Proclaimations

I would like to suggest a link offered to the full text of each President's Thanksgiving proclamations. As I read the quotes included in the article, I find myself wanting to read more on the historical perspective of how earlier generations perceived themselves as receipients of God's providence and their resulting reaction of gratitude and thankfulness. Netmer0 20:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That would make for a lot of links and I think a bit too much for this article, however a list could be made in a separate article and linked to from here. I agree it would make an interesting list and worthwhile. I took a look on wikisource and all of the recent proclamations are there, from present and dating back to Carter, but nothing earlier then that which I could find (was surprised that ones made by the founding fathers were not there). What I did find wasn't organized to make finding them easy, so putting such a list together will take some effort by a dedicated wikipedian. Russeasby 21:16, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Josepha Hale

I was wondering if it is appropriate for Sarah Hale to be mentioned in the effort to get Thanksgiving declared as a permanent American National Holiday? It seems that her role was instrumental in getting Lincoln to make the necessary proclamation. Previous to 1863, she had been waging a campaign to the various State Governors to make similar proclamations. A search of "Thankgiving" in American Memory section of the Library of Congress' website will yield an entry for Sarah Hale that shows her letter to Lincoln and the various articles that she had previously wrote on the subject. I am not sure this link will work, but you can find it here: Sarah J. Hale to Abraham Lincoln Zhafnium 22:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's worth mentioning... but it's already in Thanksgiving (United States). Is that enough? --Midnightdreary 16:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The National Thanksgiving Proclamations

This section is long-winded and problematic. After several mentions of "God", "thankful" and "prayerful", the article reads like a church bulletin or Norman Vincent Peale tract. Perhaps this was unintentional or reflects the beliefs/prejudices of the author. But I think the section needs editing--for length but mostly for tone. Any thoughts? Kinkyturnip 04:20, 14 November 2007 (UTC)04:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, the length and verbosity of this section, especially in combination with the choice of diction in earlier sections, definitely makes the article read like a religious tract. --Raphite 04:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Seasonal Celebration

I believe that the article could use significantly more information on the seasonal relevance of the Thanksgiving traditions. Certain foods are mentioned, but no association is made with celebration of a successful harvest (late-season foods). With the current emphasis on "happy" meals, communal conversation about individual gratitudes, and the implied divine favor upon the European colonists, it seems like the only thing missing is a soundfile playing "God Bless America" and a slideshow of Norman Rockwell paintings. This language certainly deserves a place in the article since it is part of the holiday's tradition, but currently there is no information at all about the seasonal relevance of the Thanksgiving holiday in the context of an intensively agrarian culture. --Raphite 04:42, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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