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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Grahamwild (talk | contribs) at 07:29, 2 January 2008 (→‎Image removal complaint: thanks). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

If you are here to register a complaint regarding this bot's edits, before doing so please note:
  1. There is a very clear policy regarding the use of non-free images. This policy is located at Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria
  2. If the bot left a message, read it, along with any links in the message, before complaining here. Do not revert the bot's edits to your userpages or templates, because that will simply incur my wrath. Do not remove the deletion templates, because they will be restored. Do not assume that you can revert and then evade my notice, because BetacommandBot checks all images periodically, and ImageBacklogBot will catch you again next time it is run.
  3. Read the policy
  4. Check and make sure the image has a valid source
  5. Make sure that the image has a valid non-free use rationale (A guide can be found here)
  6. I will not add rationales for you as the uploader it is your responsibility NOT mine.
  7. All images must comply with policy
  8. A generic template tag is NOT a valid fair use rationale.
  9. If you're here to whine and complain that But <place image name here> is just like my image and isn't tagged for deletion I will tag that image too, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
  10. There is a very clear policy regarding having fair use rationales on fair use images. This policy is located at Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria point #10(c). Rationales must be provided for each use of an image. Also please see Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline.
  11. We do not permit fair use, copyrighted images to exist on Wikipedia if rationales for that image's use are not provided. Please see Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Images.2Fmedia #6. Also please see the Wikimedia Foundation's resolution on this matter at m:Resolution:Licensing policy point #4.
  12. We do not permit fair use, copyrighted images be used outside of the article namespace. Please see WP:NFCC#9
  13. For quite some time, we have attempted to encourage people to provide rationales. The results of this effort have been dismal at best.
  14. The use of fair use, copyrighted images on the Wikimedia servers is covered by United States law. Our policies with respect to this bot's actions are based on that law. Please see Fair_use#Purpose_and_character.
  15. Bug reports are very welcome; tagging images as this bot is doing per policy is not a bug.
    To file a bug report:
    • Visit https://jira.ts.wikimedia.org/secure/CreateIssue!default.jspa (you will need to register)
    • Select:
      • Project: ST47's tools
      • Issue Type: Bug, new feature, whatever. If you don't know what this means, choose bug.
    • Click next.
    • Fill in a short summary, select a priority level, and look to see if the name of the bot is listed in the components section. If it is, select it, otherwise, select unknown.
    • Ignore affects version, fix version, environment, assignee.
    • Add a detailed description, and
    • Hit 'create'.
Questions and complaints regarding your images can be directed to the Image Copyright Help Desk where a team of volunteers will endeavor to offer useful advise in a convivial atmosphere. If you are using this service, please remember, we don't run this bot. Please try and remain calm when using the help desk.

Image:Lego Mindstorms NXT Robot.jpg

Resolved
 –  Fixed by reporter

Image:Lego Mindstorms NXT Robot.jpg has a CC License. It was tagged here. Joe I 07:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Complaint

Resolved
 – no Invalid

ImageBacklogBot, you removed and replaced some images in my userpage (about the fair use stuff) without warning me. You were vandalizing my page. Please stop before I tell someone that you are a vandal. I am the only one allowed to edit my own userpage. You know that. I never want to see my userpage vandalized ever again, or I will tell someone at the help desk. I'm onto you.Kitty53 (talk) 01:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can you stop deleting images from my user page without request. Palmiped (talk) 14:28, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Danish parliamentary election, 2007

Resolved
 – no Invalid

You removed link to Image:Nyalliance.jpg even though it already has a fair use rationale for this particular template. Seems to be a mistake. I have reverted the bot edit. Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 09:59, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stop using example.jpg!

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 –  Fixed

It is a very bad idea to replace those images with example.jpg. Pages containing example.jpg are usually pages with editing experiments, done by newbies clicking on the editing toolbar randomly (or accidentally), and thus should get checked manually if they need cleanup or simply reverting. Now there are again 100+ pages with that image thanks to you. There are two better images to be used - either example.png, or even much better the Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg. Please run your bot again on those pages you already touched, I don't want to change those example.jpg by hand! andy (talk) 10:13, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How is Example.png any better than example.jpg? I've changed the bot to use Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 19:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If I could please make a suggestion, that rather than add an image that ends up being displayed in mainspace, and looks unprofessional, you use an invisible image, Image:Pix.gif? I suggested this officially on the Bot Requests page, where I thought it was appropriate, but I guess you did not see it. I did not wish to bother you excessively, as I realize how hard you most likely work on coding issues, and it seemed to me better to request it through the BAG pages. The new image does help somewhat, in that Image:Example.jpg is used quite often to track test edits and vandalism, but unfortunately, it still brings up the same issues, featured portals, lists, templates, infoboxes, and other items are still displaying an image that is not very professional. Simply changing to the invisible gif image will solve this issue, and yet not remove the captions from some of these portals, templates, and other pages that are transcluded. Would you be amenable to changing the bot's regex code to this, instead of the current image? Thanks for reading, Ariel♥Gold 11:24, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It would be on templates only that the bot would use pix.gif, correct? --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 11:44, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest using it anywhere that can possibly be used on mainspace for portal, any template, infobox, or WP space, if you check the links to Example.jpg, I think you can understand the scope of the issue, a great many of the pages are subpages of portals, or subpages of featured content, features pictures, etc., and those are where the issues arise. If you wish to take the time to code it so that userspace and/or talk space have the copyright image, I don't see a problem with doing that, but I think that just using the pix.gif for everything would be easier, produce the same result (the bot's edit summary fully explains why the image is being removed/replaced) and not interfere with transcluded pages. I've actually given this a great deal of thought, as I'm one of those editors who used to spend the time going through the links to Example.jpg, and removing test edits and vandalism. I understand the bot's function and its methods, but unfortunately, now there are literally over 1000+ pages with Example.jpg on them, and I really cannot see how it can get cleaned up (unless you or someone else would be willing to code a short-term bot function to remove all those links manually to fix the issue, even from userspace, lol). I spoke with Cobi, SQL, and Dreamafter, and they all agree that using an invisible image for the bot's function would allow the least disruption, still maintain the thumbnail captions, but also give an obvious indicator that the image was removed. Ariel♥Gold 11:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Portals and WP space cannot be used in mainspace, templates are the only ones that make sense. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 19:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Additionally, your 'caption' argument makes no sense. Where are there templates which show an image with a caption? --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 19:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Many of the single portal pages, featured article pages, etc. See here, here, here, here, etc., for examples. These subpages are transcluded onto the main portal pages in rotation, and thus, when they are rotated through, appear unprofessional when they have Example.jpg, or the other image on them. The issue is not that the fair use images should not be removed, they absolutely should, but that there are also other areas that are visited by readers, (i.e. Portals, Featured Article subpages, etc.,) and should present a professional appearance, just as the mainspace areas should. I'm sorry that my wording was poor, as I did not mean that portals and featured pages are mainspace, I mean that they should present themselves as the mainspace does, professionally in appearance. Ariel♥Gold 12:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again! :D I notice you marked this as fixed, but the bot is still using the alternate image on portal and featured subpages, instead of Pix.gif. Would it be possible to get the bot to either comment out the image completely, or use the invisible pixel image? It would make the portals and featured pages look much better when pages are rotated, without requiring maintenance. Thanks! Ariel♥Gold 00:30, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 00:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! Ariel♥Gold 00:44, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like it is bugged a bit, it is still trying to insert NonFreeImageRemoved.svg, instead of Pix.gif, but now adding two "Image:" tags, resulting in this: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] is there a way to just get it to comment out the entire image line or to fix it so it just replaces all images with pix.gif? Sorry to keep bringing you work, lol. I hope that's easy to fix! Ariel♥Gold 20:46, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, it also does not seem to be using the invisible image on the templates that are transcluded into mainspace articles, [6], [7], [8], etc. :( Ariel♥Gold 20:56, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bot problem

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 –  Fixed

The bot's messing up discussions of potentially non-free images such as in this edit. Please have the bot convert such images to links, rather than changing what people are talking about. --Carnildo (talk) 22:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 22:38, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Canonical.png

Why did the bot make this edit? Jecowa (talk) 00:23, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because it displayed a non-free image outside of the main namespace. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 00:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:BMW R1200RT

Resolved
 – no Invalid

Why do you keep removing the image from Talk:BMW R1200RT --Cheesy Mike (talk) 08:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reading the warning box above :D (Item 12) --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 20:20, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User Pictures

Resolved
 – no Invalid

Why do you keep removing my pictures off my images page? Jonesy702 (talk) 18:20, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reading the warning box above :D (Item 12) --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 21:33, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how you've answered my question? Jonesy702 (talk) 16:06, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved
 – no Invalid

I just want to know WHAT I have to do, HOW and WHO I have to credit in order to keep my images on the page.

The copyright issue is also pretty ambiguous. I've seen one of the saw screenshots being marked as gnu, anotherone marked as copyrighted. BUT they are ALL available for free distribution (and their distribution is encouraged, as I know they are posters and promotional materials from the movies, and generally available from allover the net for download) So I SHOULD be allowed to use those images to present stuff I like.

And I HAVE read the box above.

EDIT: Please use SIMPLE ENGLISH when you explain to me.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireraider (talk • contribs) 00:08, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do NOT know WHAT you ARE talking ABOUT. please TELL me WHAT the IMAGE is AND what YOU want ME to DO with IT. thanks. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 00:18, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


With all respct, your "BOT" has removed seven images from my userpage. I just want to know what I have to do to keep them there. Put a list of individual copyright credits for EACH on my page? Then will I be allowed. Or should I modify the use rationale to incude my page in it. It doesn't matter what image it was. By the way, ALL the edits of your creation are listed on my history page.

Do not sign your edits with my sig. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 00:44, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please see item 1, item 3, item 6, item 7, item 8, item 10, and especially item 12. (Item 12 is very important.) --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 00:46, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Sorry. Didn't notice that. I Read those. Well, can I modify the use rationale to include my page in it? Then it would be "under the terms of service".

No. We do not permit fair use, copyrighted images be used outside of the article namespace. Please see WP:NFCC#9. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 01:46, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FINE —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireraider (talk • contribs) 01:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Vector version available

Can you please change the bot to replace Template:Vector version available with Template:Non-free vector version available instead of breaking the link? See here. Thanks! Jfire (talk) 21:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of fair use sound files

Hello. I might not be up to date with the current policies, but, as far as I know, there's nothing wrong with merely linking to media files. So edits like [9], [10] and [11] seem to be improper (Also note the messing up of the wiki markup in the last edit). Additionally, your bot seems to comment out media files, whether they are linked or not [12]. --Conti|✉ 21:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are those sound files linked or transcluded? If I click on one of them, I hear non-free content. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 00:25, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, either way, you have to click to listen to them. But if transclusion of media files isn't allowed, couldn't your bot simply change the transclusion to a link, instead of replacing a media file with an image? So that [[Image:Mediafile.ogg]] becomes [[:Image:Mediafile.ogg]], for example. --Conti|✉ 00:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of TheCowboys1972.jpg

Resolved
 – no Invalid

Hello, I searched Wiki to find a fair use image to put on my user page that fitted my theme and found this. I even checked to see if it was used in other articles and it is, see this. However, ImageBacklogBot keeps removing it. Can you please help me? If it's not a fair-use image, how do I search Wiki for images I can use on my user page? Thanks, Cleanemupnowboys (talk) 23:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is a fair-use image, and like all other non-free content, cannot be used outside of the article namespace. See also number 12 above. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 00:24, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a site where I can search for images to put on my user page that is a free fair-use image? (if that's what it's called). Thanks, Cleanemupnowboys (talk) 00:37, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can search on Wikimedia Commons. All the images you find there can be used on your user page. Here you might find a few suitable images. --Conti|✉ 00:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Cleanemupnowboys (talk) 00:59, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Umm

Why not just ask first on the talk page to remove them in a certain amount of time before you just make the move. So the user can do it themself before you just edit without talking to them first. That whould be better before you just barge in and edit. SG2090 (talk) 00:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because I have 4000 edits to make, and 4000 is easier than 8000. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 00:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Thuringowacityrep/sandbox

Hi can you please stop removing the City of Thuringowa image from My sandbox, i am using my sandbox to look back on and can not see why this image has to be removed from it when this is not a main page, if i have missed something can you please fill me in, thanks Thuringowacityrep (talk) 06:12, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is a fair-use image, and like all other non-free content, cannot be used outside of the article namespace. See also number 12 above. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 16:37, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User: Not home

You removed the following image from my user page - "Fanta-guadeloupe.jpg" I took the photo myself so I am confused as to how it can be classified as a "NonFreeImage." Why can I not display my own photo on my User Page. Your discussion page and the page Non-free content criteria provide no clear explanation on this matter. Could you take the time to explain it to me? Thanks.Not home (talk) 08:40, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is a fair-use image, and like all other non-free content, cannot be used outside of the article namespace. See also number 12 above. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 16:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image removal complaint

Hi, you removed an image from my user page that I drew and I uploaded. I added a logo licence to said image in case it was needed. It would be better for you to review the licence and remove it if it is not necessary (I don’t believe it is), not to remove something which I drew, from my user page.

Image at [13]

Regards, Grahamwild (talk) 19:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • The bot acted correctly. You tagged the image as non-free, even though it is yours. You have to explicitly release the image under a free license before it may be added to your userpage. Sorry. --Hammersoft (talk) 01:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your response. I have changed the license of the image and left my justification for not using the logo license. Regards, Grahamwild (talk) 07:29, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vector version template conflict

i'm unsure whether this is a bug or complaint:

Template:Vector version available, is entirely intended for purposes of editing, as it's name implies, as a backwards reference to a better version available, so that the uploader (who is automatically notified by Betacommand that his fair use image is orphaned) and others can review and compare the versions easily, instead of going to the article, look for the new version, click on it to view the image itself.

the bot's removing of these links besides being counter productive, is completely redundant, because a) it's a 100px wide image; and more important, b) it completely overlaps Betacommand's tasks, as this template is intended for orphaned images.

here's an example: Image:Eurotel-160.jpg. thanks --Ben Stone 06:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should be replacing it with Template:Non-free vector version available -- see my request above. Jfire (talk) 06:23, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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