Talk:Rules lawyer

This article was nominated for deletion on 291205. The result of the discussion was keep. An archived record of this discussion can be found here.

Afd

Never likely to be more than a dicdef IMO. Listed on AfD. Andrewa 23:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And how wrong I was! Another victory for AfD, the article is now far more than a dicdef. Andrewa 04:44, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Andrewa - would you mind speaking in plain English? DigitalEnthusiast 19:52, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Judging by the other items here, I'd say 'dicdef' means 'dictionary definition', while 'AfD' is the dreaded 'Articles for Deletion' list. Just as a clarification. --IL-Kuma 21:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Assume good faith

I'm adding a link to the Wikipedia guideline of assuming good faith ( to it's talk page, actually ), which is what prompted the creation of this article. The word ruleslawyering shows up several times in the text, and until this point I had never heard it, learned it's meaning by context, and felt that if the word is being used, it needs to be explained somewhere. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DigitalEnthusiast (talk • contribs) 19:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks DigitalEnthusiast, I appreciate the links, but we want to avoid self-references to Wikipedia from articlespace. There's already a link at the top in italics, which is the recommended way to deal with this. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-12-12 20:40Z

Gaming the system should not redirect to here

"Gaming the system" is not at all similar to rules lawyering. Gaming the system is doing something which would not naturally benefit you but which will because of an imperfect rule. Rules lawyering is the separate concept of harping on about a rule or set of rules. Someone who's gaming the system will usually keep quiet lest their abuse be spotted. A rules lawyer usually never shuts up and relies on the sanctity of unchanging rules to prevent their abuse from being effectively responded to. Gronky 14:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Dealing with rules lawyers" section

Does anyone have a DMG2 handy? Are the bullet points in this section just a lift from that book? If so, that section's a copyvio and should be removed. Percy Snoodle 15:02, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology reversed

The article says a variant of rules lawyer is sea lawyer, and then goes on to claim it probably derives from the programming term language lawyer.

I'd be very surprised if this was the case. Without researching it, I'd have thought sea lawyer (and barracks lawyer) came first, and language lawyer and rules lawyer to be the newer variants. Is there anyone with actual knowledge who can confirm? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.215.141.101 (talk) 11:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I second that - this is completely the wrong way round. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.58.200.39 (talk) 16:21, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Sea-lawyer is probably first. Yarr! 24.160.240.212 (talk) 02:11, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dealing with...

Honestly, I don't think this kind of content has any place in an article. Wikipedia isn't a 101: How to - guide, it's an encyclopedia. There are plenty of other websites and resources that deal with this subject. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.216.200.210 (talk) 13:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]