User talk:Pinkadelica
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Thanks! I was well pleased. The nomination review wasn't really such a bad experience - just a few hours over two weeks from creation to promotion!! It was a feat! Wildhartlivie (talk) 08:38, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
WP Crime/Criminal
Someone (not sure who he is or why it is important to him) wants the WP:Crime project to combine its project banners into one (we use {{WP Crime}} and {{WP Criminal}}) and I've explained why it seems to be important to have separate ones. Would you look at the talk at Template talk:WP Criminal and give an opinion. My view on it is there. Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:53, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure why the guy is so concerned about it, but apparently he's decided the project shouldn't have two banners. I brought up the problem that the "listas" parameter isn't working correctly and was trying to get that fixed, so I suppose that's what has led to this. It's like I said, the project has two things it focuses on. One is the broader subject of crime and the others are criminals. I think the two banners are useful, the only part of the project I ever work on are the biographies. If WP Criminal was a sub-project like serial killers, it wouldn't be an issue, but the projects aren't that big and wouldn't be worthwhile in separating. Not like WP Film and WP Actors was.
- When you look at the template code that gets pasted in, it either says WP Crime or WP Criminal. While it is true that almost all biographies are about someone who is a criminal, there are a few whom you can't call that, either yet or ever. Think OJ before the kidnapping and robbery conviction, Lillo Brancato before he was convicted or Bernard Madoff, who has been charged but not convicted. These people are of interest to the crime project but it would be a probable WP:BLP violation to slap criminal in the banner. I'd like to see the words "criminal biography" removed from the Template:WP Crime (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) banner altogether and keep both. There are some biographies of dead persons, like some of the old west outlaws that weren't convicted either, or now that I think about it Lee Harvey Oswald or John Wilkes Booth who committed high profile crimes but were never tried, but would have been if they hadn't been gunned down. I'd probably not look at this quite as critically if I hadn't just dealt with the crime/criminal issue with Madoff. I don't believe that a single banner can be created that would toggle between general crime and criminal biography that wouldn't be far more difficult to maintain and still adhere to WP:BLP. What would it be, ensuring that the biography=yes gets used? Anyway, that's the issue. Does that help? Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:12, 15 January 2009 (UTC)