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Fair use rationale for Image:Earthrace.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone please pull a suitable image from Wikicommons for this page. Or give me a link that describes how to. --Lee Begg (talk) 01:32, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interest??

I don't understand the interest of this boat... Which new record did it set? It completed the circumnavigation in more than 60 days? What is it for a record? Bruno Peyron did much better in 2005, he completed the circumnavigation in just a bit more than 50 days with a sail-powered boat!!! Only with the force of the wind!!! Maybe the article might need a bit more of explanation on the interest of this boat and of the record... I personnaly don't understand... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.30.180 (talk) 15:59, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. It is well spelled out now. however, we can't take away from the noteworthiness of the project or record completely so tried to not over power it.Cptnono (talk) 01:30, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Part of the recent interest in this boat stems from it's stated plan to join Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and potentially be on Whale Wars. --0nonanon0 (talk) 23:23, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Animal fat

Many articles cite the animal fat to be the primary component of the biodiesel this ship uses. It should be included in the article. --68.41.80.161 (talk) 00:11, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed?Cptnono (talk) 01:30, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nicely TY--68.41.80.161 (talk) 14:51, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sinking

Retaliation? According to the Japanese fleet it was crossing in front of their ship towing prop-foulers. That statement is a bit premature at this point. 72.147.51.90 (talk) 06:06, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter. Watch out for WP:RECENTISM and potentially incorrect sources at this point. We don't need to update the article to match every news report.Cptnono (talk) 06:15, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, but bias should always be avoided. 72.147.51.90 (talk) 06:36, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Unfortunately, Watson is on the record saying he spins the truth. Without a statement from the Japanese or independent review of the footage, any claims by the need to be worded carefully. The shooting and kidnapping incidents experienced similar problems. Lets just take it easy and make sure we aren't taking a side with the writing (that includes the Japanese).Cptnono (talk) 06:44, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to start reverting edits that are worded in line with Wikipeida's neutrally standards. I don't want to edit war so any comments are welcome. It appears that several edit summaries from different editors agree that "ramming" is not yet appropriate. It can be used but needs to be attributed.Cptnono (talk)

Follow-up: It looks like SemperDoctus beat me to it.Cptnono (talk)

There are a few claims which as of now seem to be incorrect or unverified. First and foremost the ship has not sunk and claims that the ship sinking and describing it in the past tense are all premature. Secondly, I agree that it should be called a collision. Thirdly, it was not broken in half. As the video clearly shows, the front part of it was broken off.Wikieditorpro (talk) 11:31, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the article to reflect the latest news that the ship has not sunk. http://www.news.com.au/world/protest-ship-rammed-by-whaler-vessel/story-e6frfkyi-1225816672484 Wikieditorpro (talk) 11:31, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's been claimed in some discussion that the Ady Gil was out of fuel (or very low I guess) - no idea where that was sourced from, I can't verify at all.Sycophant (talk) 12:23, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a video which should be added to the page for people to make up their own minds; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH_5wEWaqe8 121.74.255.33 (talk) 10:53, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well I certainly don't think it looks like SSCS's press release is accurate but that isn't for me to judge. Is the youtube video a copyright infringement? We can't use it if it is. We also need to be as careful linking to SSCS's enemy as much as linking to them due to potential POV concerns. Keep it in mind. Cptnono (talk) 11:19, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

YouTube video is sourced from ICR and attributed to them - per their requirements, so no copyright issue. There is also this video from Sea Shepherd's perspective as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rar9zxH1kts Sycophant (talk) 12:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've referenced the two main YouTube links (I realise YouTube is not a preferred source, but the ICR site is incredibly slow and Sea Shepherd's seems to be dead).Sycophant (talk) 12:23, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Should the YouTube video be added to the External Links section? It is a freely available file. 121.74.255.33 (talk) 11:24, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Japanese video was removed due to a violation over at Youtube. We'll see what happens with SSCS's. They both show it at such different angles that this will never be resolved in the press (at least that is my assumption from the youtube comments). We will more than likely need a few good quotes and sources as it develops.

The YouTube video above is still up - it's accurately attributes ICR as the source per their website: "The ICR welcomes media organizations to reproduce photographs and other material from this website on the condition that all reproductions used for newspapers, television, websites and other visual products are attributed to the Institute." - I have also posted the same ICR video on my YouTube account with attribution (although that is not the one I have linked). Sycophant (talk) 12:26, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh it is! The one in the article history is gone. A bot might remove it but if they say it is OK then it should be OK. I hate linking to either but this might be a case where we link to both SSCS and ICR if they throw the videos up directly.Cptnono (talk) 12:30, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, who added bolds to all of the refs just recently? WP:MOSBOLD applies I believe.Cptnono (talk) 12:21, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are Ady Gil and Bob Barker same boats?

Can anyone explain me? Which boat collided? I just saw on Yahoo news and I wanted to add to the Bob Barker article until I found this one, Ady Gil article. AquilonianRanger (talk) 14:53, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

those are outriggers, not sponsons

The article currently says that the boat is a trimaran that has sponsons. Here is a picture of the Ady Gil out of water [1]. The article should be reworded to say that it is a trimaran with two outrigger hulls; the word pontoon might apply, but no part of the boat meets the criterion of a sponson "at or below the waterline"; and the stability should not be presented twice as if it is a trimaran AND it has outriggers, that's wrong, it's just one thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.224.171.106 (talk) 18:03, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]