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College Information

I am watching her talk to Tim Russert on CNBC where she is saying that she did not graduate from the University of Illinois, but rather couldn't pass the foreign language requirement and ended up graduating from a state school somewhere else.Kenallen 03:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can confirm. I was at the University of Illinois commencement ceremony last week where she said just that. The university gave her an honorary doctor of humane letters. Macfanatic (talk) 05:09, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is why the foreign language requirement is a bad idea. People make life altering decisions based on it when they shouldn't have to. And, a foreign language requirement has an adverse effect on the staffing of the department of foreign languages causing it to swell with often incompetent staff.Godofredo29 (talk) 18:02, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name

A bit off topic, but I've always wondered... it is supposed to be "Suze" (as to rhyme with "Cruise" or "Snooze") or "Susie"? On Oprah's TV show, she said the latter, but it doesn't say anything here. Dasani 00:14, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand why my edits keep getting undone

I edited this article, adding quotes from two extremely well qualified and respected financial commentators who offered reasonable and well-supported criticisms of Orman's financial advice. While I am extremely critical of her as well, and am a widely respected financial authority myself (I am the executive director of the nation's largest non-profit financial advisory organization, the Association of Christian Financial Advisors, with a membership in excess of over 3,000 financial professionals), I am faithfully observing the policy of not interjecting personal opinion.

Unfortunately, I don't believe that this is true of Benjiboi, the individual who keeps undoing my edits. Benjiboi appears to have no motive for his or her actions except that he or she is an avid gay activist who is intent on keeping Orman's lesbianism at the forefront of the article, and who wishes to squelch any questioning of her dubious financial credentials and history of poor advice.

Rcdrury (talk) 22:41, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree with you and I am by no means a Christian activist or whatever. Her sexual orientation does not seem relevant to me at all. If we are accepting of gays in America these days, then it should not be worthy of mention. Do we predicate every African American biography with "oh by the way, he's black" or the same for other minorities? It makes no sense. It seems jarringly out of place.

How does being a Lesbian affect the financial advice given? What is this, a dating page or something?

Her financial advice was overall fairly good. For example, she once touted buying a good quality secondhand car and keeping it for 100,000 miles, as a way of saving money.

Most financial consultant have similar advice and it is widely recognized in automotive circles than a low-mile secondhand car is the best bargain, as it does not have that horrible initial depreciation of a new car.

But as I noted on an earlier talk page (now mysteriously missing) she sold out to GM and started touting loan and lease deals at GM on TV.

See:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5273/is_200411/ai_n20887072/

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/RetirementandWills/CreateaPlan/stop-listening-to-suze-orman.aspx

"This from a woman who spends half a million dollars a year chartering private jets and who sells "Cruise With Suze" packages on an Italian luxury liner. (She has also hawked for GM, claiming that leasing a luxury car -- you know, the kind that people drive to impress other people -- is a terrific financial decision: "If you ask me, that's smart money!") No wonder she winks more than Sarah Palin, girlfriend."

Or how about this:

"There, you might also be persuaded to open an Orman-sponsored TD Ameritrade brokerage account or buy one of the products that she also sells on QVC, including the Suze Orman FICO Kit Platinum Version w/Action Planner ($47.70), the Suze Orman Identity Theft Protection Kit w/Anti-Spyware ($39.78), and Suze Orman's Organize and Protect Financial System ($66 plus S&H; Easy Pay! installment plan available)."

Wow, the Rachael Ray of finance. Scary!

Or how about this whopper:

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Banking/CreditCardSmarts/why-suze-orman-is-wrong-again.aspx

"If you have an unpaid credit card balance and not much saved up in emergency savings I need you to listen up. My advice has changed.

"I want you to only pay the minimum due on your credit card balance and instead make it your top priority to build as much of an emergency cash fund as you can."

Ow! This is suicidal! The average credit card has an interest rate of 14%. Even with a low rate card (I have 5.9 at Citibank) paying only the minimum payment would require nearly 29 years to pay off the balance. Who is paying her to say these things?

Unfortunately in these types of biography pages, the person making "mysterious edits" is often in fact the subject of the biography, their minions, or their groupies, followers, fans, or whatever.

So, expect this talk page to be deleted again, and whatever edit you make to the main page to be rapidly un-edited.

Welcome to Wikipedia, where the truth is whatever someone says it is!

Joe Patent (talk) 02:58, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]