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Italian wikipedia

Actually the picture I uploaded to Lithuanian wiki, not italian. I understand that it looks familiat lt.wikipedia.org and it.wikipedia.org What do you mean by telling me "to clarify the status of that image"? http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaizdas:Skulptorius,_medalininkas_Juozas_Kalinauskas.jpg What is wrong with this image? Is there any information missing? Thanks

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Reference

Hello AGAIN. What is wrong with my references? I added "Lithuanian artist's association database, also from artist's official website" as a reference. What else can I do, so then you'll leave it alone? I can also add "General Lithuanian Encyclopedia". Would that be fair enough? Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Germantas (talk • contribs) 12:48, 3 February 2010

Fred J Strain pictures

I did read your ww2censor/IfD page. However it does not address my situation. Fred J. Strain is my great grandfather. On the Fred J Strain page there are currently 2 pictures. I plan to add 4 or 5 more. But for now, I will focus on the one that is already there that you marked. This picture is: FredJStrain.jpg.

This picture was clipped from a larger picture that was taken of Fred J. Strain standing in his store in Shelby, Nebraska. It was taken by a family member, probably by my great grandmother though I don't know for sure, and passed down to me by my mother. I have the original in my hand. There is no way on God's green earth that we can figure out who took the picture or exactly when it was taken -- although my mother guesses that it was taken sometime between 1928 and 1932.

So in terms of "ownership" -- that is me. Period.

I do plan to upload some other pictures of his store. Back in the early 20th century many photographs were taken and made into post cards. I have two that were passed down to me by my mother and one that I purchased recently. Again, I own these. These were antique real photo post cards issued by the US Post Office. Again, there is no way to precisely date these -- although we estimate they are sometime between 1912 and 1930. There is no way to identify who took the photograph.

In addition I have another photograph of the interior of his store that was passed down to me -- probably taken about mid to late 1930s. I have the original in my hand and I "own" it. There is no way to know who took the picture with my great grandfather in it or precisely date it.

I have placed these photos on the Fred J Strain page as well.

Bottom line:

Wikipedia picture policies do not have any provision for uploading historical family photographs that I can see. Clearly the policy needs updating in my view to make provision for situations where the one who uploads the picture owns the historical picture and has it in his possession and there is no way to determine exactly who took the picture and sometimes exactly when.

So what now ??? Personally I would appreciate your leaving my uploads alone. They are mine and I can do with them what I want -- which includes allowing Wikipedia to display them. That's my view. Drmissio (talk) 15:17, 25 March 2010 (UTC).[reply]

So, let's start with some misconceptions. Once you make any edit or upload any image to Wikpedia you don't own it (see WP:OWN, so asking me, or any other editor, to not edit uploads you made is inappropriate. Any editor is entitled to edit them. When an editor sees problems they are entitled to add any maintenance tags that seems necessary and removing such maintenance tags, as you did, is disruptive especially if you do not fix problem first but I assume you did so in good faith.
The next problem is that you appear to be confusing ownership and possession of an image with copyright. Ownership of a photo does not confer any copyright rights to the image. The copyright is usually owned by the person who took the photo and possibly their estate, or if it was a work for hire, to the person or organisation which commissioned the photo. This may or may not apply to some of your images. When the author is unknown and the date of the photo is in doubt we tend to err on the side of caution because we take copyright status very seriously for all images, which is why we try to review them and not just accept the claims made by uploaders because many false claims are made. That is why the images were tagged, because you did not provide any verifying information.
One of the issues that old US photos pose is whether they have been published or not. A good page to review is User:Quadell's copyright helpfile. Point 6 seems to cover most of your images "If an "unpublished work" is by an anonymous or corporate author, or if the year of death for the author is not known, then the work is in the public domain if the work was created before 1885" or possibly 1915 according to commons:Commons:Licensing#United States. Quadell's point 8 may apply to the post cards based on: "If a work was first published in the U.S. between 1923 and 1977, and it was published without a copyright notice, it's in the public domain" also mentioned in the image at: commons:Commons:Licensing#United States.
Before we look at the images I will be adding an information template, which has the necessary fields for the image to be filled in as well as possible, to all the images. In edit mode it looks like this:
{{Information
| description = (what the image shows)
| source      = (where the image comes from, such as "own photo", "website address")
| date        = (date image was made, not upload date)
| author      = (who took the photo)
| permission  = (must have a [[freely licenced]] copyright licence tag: see [[WP:TAGS]] - <br>if providing a licence just add "see below")
}}
File:WatkeRobert.jpg - looks like a proper licence.
File:FredJStrain.jpg, File:FredJStrain-store1930s.jpg and File:FredJStrain-store1930.jpg - CC licence applied but likely public domain and should use this copyright template {{PD-Pre1978}}.
File:FredStrainFamily.jpg - no information given, copyright claim is 100 years plus.
File:ShelbyNE.jpg - is this a post card or a photo? I assume the former, in which case means it was published. Is there a copyright notice or not? What year are the cars? This may assist if it was taken before or after 1923. This may be wrongly licence but still PD. We need some more info to decide which licence to apply.
File:FredJStrain-store-1912.jpg and File:FredJStrain-store1915.jpg - claimed to be work of the US Post Office, actually this might really be the Post Office Department but I have never seem such items issued by them. Can you provide the information about what the reverse has printed on it? If the years are accurate, as published works they should be licenced with this copyright template: {{PD-Pre1978}}.
Please fill in the blank information on each image to the information templates I have added.
I don't mean to be so long winded or a pain but there is no short way to discuss this. This explanation may help you in future. Please let me know about the post cards you say were published by the post office. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 05:10, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Ireland

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Hello you recently tagged the files File:JeffRouseLive.jpg, File:MikeSquiresLiveBarrowlands.jpg, File:GeoffReadingLive.jpg, File:IsaacCarpenterLive.jpg for deletion, now I'm not disagreeing with that because (after rechecking) I obviously used the wrong copyright licensing tag. I thought what I tag was the best one for its use but obviously I was wrong, however I don't know which licensing tag would be better. I have permission to use the pictures for wiki (as stated in the link) but can't find a suitable license (there may be one I keep overlooking), is there anyway you can help with this?

If this isnt the right place to ask, I apologize in advance HrZ (talk) 19:15, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, sorry to tag them twice but until you placed a copyright tag I could not tell you that you did not show evidence of permission. We take copyright very seriously and get too many image uploaded under false copyright claims. There is no tag you can use until you get the photographer, Ann Kellacher, to email us her permission stating under which copyright licence she is giving her permission per the details found at WP:CONSENT when an OTRS ticket will be applied to the images, even if they have been deleted, so long as she releases them under a free licence. If you are going to get that done, we can tag the images as "OTRS pending" but have her refer to the current image file names. Let me know. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 20:49, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for replying, I contacted Ann earlier about emailing about the photos, and just now sent her a message about the WP:CONSENT details. She said earlier that should would do so when shes home from work, so it should take that long (certainly be sent before 5th April). Thanks for explaining, ill remember that info for any future uploads HrZ (talk) 21:05, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
On that basis I will tag the image as OTRS pending. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 21:09, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok she messaged me back saying "I've sent the email, hopefully I've completed the text correctly! Fingers crossed." so I hope its all good, if you dont handle the emails, sorry for messaging you again. Thanks for your help though HrZ (talk) 13:49, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not an OTRS volunteer but when the email arrives it will be applied to the images to confirm the permission but it may take up to a week or so as they are very backed up. Be patient. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 15:30, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Elizabeth Smart

It appears you tagged my sketch of Elizabeth Smart on her wiki author page. Why? Magickallwiz (talk) 04:45, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The notice on your talk page clearly tells you that there is no copyright tag on the image file. Besides which it seem you have uploaded this image previously under a different name and it was been deleted. There has to be a message in that for you. It appears you possible don't understand copyright issues, so perhaps you should read my image copyright information page. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 04:55, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For a novice, this is not all as easy as you seasoned vets make it out to be. Did I do that upload of my own work correctly?
Thanks for the "help". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Magickallwiz (talk • contribs) 18:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well as your images here were deleted you seem to have decided to avoid us here and upload the same image to the commons, however, I discovered this image is in fact a derivative work of a public domain image from the Canadian archives [1] and should be acknowledged as such as well as inheriting the same copyright licence. I actually wonder what is the purpose of the new image when a perfectly good one freely licenced image is available. Please keep the discussion together instead of starting a new section. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 13:40, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are these postal images okay to run?

Hello again. Since you are the expert on postage stamps, I wanted to see if the images that another editor uploaded here [2] and here [3] and here [4] do not fall afoul of Wikipedia's image policy. Thank you. Warrah (talk) 02:34, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They all seem to be good. You may want to refer to these two commons pages: stamp templates and public domain stamps. Thanks for asking. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 05:35, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Ireland and the food section

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x2. --RA (talk) 23:19, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Buy yourself a drink and say it was from me, I'll do the same "from" you. Thanks for your help and experience. --RA (talk) 11:45, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, happy to help move an article up in quality. Maybe if you are in Ireland, as I will be in about 3 weeks time, I can buy you that drink in person. Let's move on to the next one; perhaps re-featuring one of the delisted articles such as, Samuel Beckett FAR, History of Limerick FAR or President of Ireland FAR to name just three candidates I know of, would be a good idea. ww2censor (talk) 12:05, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If your travels take you around Cork give me an email and we can have a pint in town. I think tackling one of those article would be very good idea. I would feel most confident (personally) about hitting the president next (not literally) if only because it is that topic that I would know most about from that list. --RA (talk) 23:56, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Dublin and West Wicklow will be as far south as I will be going in Ireland, so no pints this time. My son, who lives in London, has just been in Innishannon for Easter with his family at his wife's parents. Cork will have to wait awhile but if you want to work on President of Ireland we could maybe drum up some support preferably after I return from my trip in mid-May. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 02:37, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Pity. Although, maybe a WikiProject meet up in general would be a good idea (in which case Dublin would be the natural choice). As you may know, I've been trying (with little success) to drum up support for a Wikimedia Ireland too.
I'll take a look at the president article in the mean time but won't do anything too drastic until you come back. --RA (talk) 10:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP Motorcycling in the Signpost

WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Motorcycling for a Signpost article to be published April 12. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Also, if you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 19:21, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Template help

Hello Ww2censor,

I'm sorry I can't help directly with this one - most infoboxes and complex templates are beyond my capabilities. However, I can recommend a few good editors who could help:

Again, I'm sorry that I can't help directly, but hopefully one of these can. --Jza84 |  Talk  22:07, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BCR Open Romania

Hello,

I'm writing because I found the article pretty much as it was before I added up all the text and visual. I perfectly understand the reasons behind the speedy deletions of pictures and text. The situation is that for most of the material I added to the page I cannot certify the source because I own all the information and picture. I am the organizer of the BCR Open Romania tournament held here in Bucharest, Romania. My name is Liliana Ivascu, the current Executive Director of the tournament. You can find me on the event's website [5] or at a more precise link [6]. I want to assure that all the information I put in the article is 100% true, and that all the pictures stand under my copyright and they originate from the tournament' materials that are in my possession or my access. I put a lot of effort in creating the page. I wanted it to be more close to the reader, more catchy with all the visual galleries and of course more complete in the information delivered. I truly hope that you can help me bring the page back to the format I added.

Thank you for you time!

Liliana Ivascu Executive Director BCR Open Romania

Tennis4u (talk) 11:28, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You really need to help me by providing a link to the article in question. It took me several clicks to find what you were talking about. Let me assure you that I did not remove any content from the BCR Open Romania article, I did however fix an image link, add an unreferenced tag, and fixed the website link. Someone else removed the edits you made, I presume because they were not verified with reliable sources such as national newspapers or books. This is an encyclopaedia, not a blog or social network site, so we don't just add information to make it catchy. The other issue for you is that it would appear you have a conflict of interest and you should read WP:COI. You could discuss the deletions with the editor who remove them and see what they say. You may know what you wrote is true but we don't know that and we don't see any verification of it.
Now to get to the images that were deleted. I tagged them because they did not have any indication of the source or any copyright information; both of these are required. No indication or claim that the images were yours was made either and that is enough to get them deleted. Who took the images and who owns the copyright? All the content found at the BC Open Roumaia are copyright according to the copyright notices seen on pages, so there is no evidence any image found there is free. You have two ways to fix that. You can verify the permission, if you actually own the copyright, by following the procedure found at WP:CONSENT or WP:PERMISSION, otherwise there is no proof of permission. We take copyright status very seriously which was the reason the previous images were deleted, but, they can be restored if a free licence is given. Have the website, or the photographer, refer to the specific image names in their email. A second way to deal with this is to make a specific "free photo gallery" on the website, which says that the photos on that page are released under a free license such as {{CC-BY-SA-3.0}} or released into the public domain and use that page link as the source to verify both the source and copyright. Any non-free licence is unacceptable to us. ww2censor (talk) 15:52, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

REcovering photos

hi again, I'm not sure whether to write to you or the other person who notified me about the 3 photos which were deleted from the Le Moyne College pages.

i tried to forward our staff photographer's permission to the email given by the other person, but it didnt work so can i just send it to you?

here is what he said (i took out his phone numbers for privacy)


"you have my permission to use any and all of the images I take for Lemoyne College. Charles Wainwright Charles Wainwright Wainwright Photo

3957 Howlett Hill Road Syracuse, NY 13209 Phone: xxx, Cell: xxxx

email address "

Can you please undelete these 3 photos now? i would appreciate it.

thanks Mitchell.166 (talk) 18:25, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can't restore these image because I am not an administrator and your permission request must come from the copyright holder and be sent to the permission email clearly stated in the notices left on your talk page. Unfortunately simply copying an email you were sent does not verify the permission. Please follow the outlined procedure mentioned or look at WP:CONSENT and all will be well, but make sure the copyright holder understands that a free licence, which is what we require, means that anyone can use the images for anything, even commercial use. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 13:02, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OTRS?

Hi. We have a perpetual backlog for image permissions in OTRS, both for Commons and the English Wikipedia, and when I was glancing at the list of current OTRS volunteers, I couldn't help but notice that your name was not on it. :) Since you're so up on copyright issues, I did wonder if you might like to raise your hand. Meta:OTRS/info-en recruiting says that they are looking for people who are sysops on one or more projects, but I asked User:Bastique (our volunteer coordinator), and he said that this is not hard and fast. Applicants are reviewed to see how well they fit the requirements in general. Primarily, working the permissions queue involves looking at a letter, looking at the image or article and deciding if the permission is sufficient. If it's clear on the licensing terms and it's clearly connected to the point of publication (and plausibly the copyright holder; sometimes photo subjects send this rather than the photographers), we send them a thank you and drop a template on the image/article indicating we have permission. If it's not, we send them a form letter (usually) pointing out where the problem is and asking them to fix it. I'm not an admin on Commons, so once in a while I need to run down an admin there to resurrect an image that's been deleted, but most of the time that isn't an issue.

Anyway, if you're interested, you might drop your name in the hat at Meta:OTRS/volunteering. I'm not entirely sure what they look for — the OTRS admins make the call themselves without discussion with the volunteers — but it did seem to me that you'd be ideal.

And if you should happen to already be a volunteer, please forgive me for not knowing. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:27, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, I am not an OTRS volunteer and I can't really afford the time as I am already spending too much time here, but thanks for the links. If things slacken off I might consider but I also see that being a sysop is a recommended requirement and quite while ago I decided not to go down that path even though I have been asked that too. Thanks anyway. ww2censor (talk) 13:40, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's recommended, but as I said Bastique assures me it isn't required. But I certainly understand not wanting to overextend yourself! There've been a couple of projects on Wikipedia that I've considered taking part in but held back just because there's already quite enough to do in the areas I'm dedicated to. Thanks for considering it. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:48, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ZwillingeStampSWA1985.jpg

Dear ww2censor, good to hear from you again.:) Thanks for notifying me about the threat of deletion over File:ZwillingeStampSWA1985.jpg. I have put a respose their - wishing to keep the image. I notice that there was not a link to the discussion section - just to the page . I think cutting and pasting the ref to the section like this works:

File:ZwillingeStampSWA1985.jpg

This might be a help in the future. Best wishes, (Msrasnw (talk) 16:05, 9 April 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Actually Twinkle does the job but it only creates a link to the discussion page and not to the section. I'm sorry you disagree with me but many other stamp images similarly used have been deleted mainly as there is no contextual significance and it is not in an article about the stamp, but you have made your points at the discussion. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 16:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi - "edit clash" was just adding this. Do you know what the status of Colonial Authority - or Illegal Regime stamps is? Does their copyright fall to the next legitimate regime - or are they copyright free:)? And would it be OK to raise this issue in defence of keeping the image? - something along the lines of "In 1971, acting on a request for advisory opinion from the United Nations Security Council, the ICJ ruled that the continued presence of South Africa in Namibia was illegal and that South Africa was under an obligation to withdraw from Namibia immediately. It also ruled that all member states of the United Nations were under an obligation to recognize the invalidity of any act performed by South Africa on behalf of Namibia" like perhaps the issuing of stamps! (Msrasnw (talk) 16:28, 9 April 2010 (UTC))[reply]
I understand that South West Africa was covered by the Berne Convetion and Namibia copyright applies for a least 50 years per commons licencing page. Unless specific laws to the contrary were enacted copyright is generally inherited by the subsequent state which is what I interpret from this. I doubt that illegal regime could apply but you would have to prove that because the burden of proof still lies with the uploader and you uploaded it as a non-free stamp so we have to presume you have no proof it in the public domain so applied a non-free rationale to try to justify it use. Please add any more discussion that may enhance the discussion at the nomination page. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 16:59, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gaelic Journal

How exactly do you sort what is prose and whatnot? I understand that categories&templates and stuff should be left out, but how about quotations and image captions. Either way I think there's close to 2 kb prose (blockquote text excluded), but I'd appreciate if you could make a new estimate after my recent additions. Best regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 20:10, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hidden sections

Hey, looks like you're pretty good at this. Is there a way I can hide certain sections on my user page so that only I can see it when I'm signed on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eldragon21 (talk • contribs) 12:44, 12 April 2010

Not as far as I know, but you can hide text from everyone, except in edit mode, by adding <!-- in front of the text you want top hide and --> at the end. Hope that helps. ww2censor (talk) 19:36, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My Image

Hi! You recently tagged my image, File:Cumulus Cloud.jpg, for deletion. I am new to wikis, so I don't know how to change the license. Also, I do not know why you tagged it. It is my own photography. I don't quite understand all these licensing rules at all, so can you please help me? If it's OK, I'd like you to post on my talk page. Thanks! --Hoodedwarbler12 (talk) 21:10, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome but I wish even newbies would actually read the notices. It clearly tells you that there is no licence for the image you uploaded. We require a copyright and there is a link to the copyright tags page where you will find everything you need to decide which licence to use if you created the image. Many self creators will release their images into the public domain by adding the following template "{{PD-self}}" to the image by clicking on the edit button and adding this code in the permission field. It is easy. You may also find it useful to read my image copyright information page. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 21:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for helping me. I fixed it, and now I think I'll leave Wikipedia. Bye. --Hoodedwarbler12 (talk) 22:15, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You have fixed it correctly. Thanks, it's a pity you are leaving us so soon. Maybe you will reconsider and contribute later. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 23:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Could you please tell me how to add the copyright data?

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