Talk:Fuck

Also see Talk:History of the word 'fuck'.

Spears Code Suggestion

(S.Maranatha (talk) 17:57, 29 March 2009 (UTC)) Also, there's a Brittney spears song that says "If you seek Amy" that goes with the subtitle: "If you see kay" encoding. I'd add it but it's locked so yeah. (S.Maranatha (talk) 17:57, 29 March 2009 (UTC))

Feb 4 2009 edits

I've removed some guff, but there's heaps more that should go. I'll wait a couple of days to see if anyone else wnats to do some heavy lifting, then I'll have another pass. - brenneman 14:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Sexual confusion

The word reflects Western sexual repression and the misunderstanding of the equality of the sexes: fuck is contemptuous but sex is equally giving and taking (even though can seem like being had and having). Sean McHugh (talk) 09:56, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I think the word "fuck" as a term for sexual intercourse is becoming less derogatory as the years pass by, especially as its usage becomes more common in public. Personally speaking, my partner and I prefer to refer to the act as "fucking" because it makes the act feel more intense, as opposed the gentler "sex." "Sex" sounds too cold and scientific. Micasta (talk) 16:56, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

passive voice in definition 2

• The first paragraph says:

It is also a verb that means "to be cheated" ("I got fucked by a scam artist").

The example given (which I believe is correct) contradicts the definition (which I think is wrong). It should be:

It is also a verb that means "to cheat" ("I got fucked by a scam artist").

It may also be worth noting that this usage may be formed emphatically as fucked over, fucked over hard, or fucked in the ass.

ruinia (talk) 01:20, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

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• I agree, the definition as stated in the article is incorrect. It should read, a verb that means "to cheat". 207.155.244.69 (talk) 16:26, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
• I know section makes no mention of it. I'm at work and can't look it up right now, so I thought I would add so someone else can, if not myself, later. 76.192.185.125 (talk) 20:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
• The sentiments listed in the paragraph describing transitive and intransitive usage leaves something to be desired:

  "The verb to fuck may be used transitively or intransitively, and it appears in compounds, including fuck off, fuck up, and fuck with. In less explicit usages (but still regarded as vulgar), fuck or fuck with can mean to mess around, or to deal with unfairly or harshly."

  fuck with in less explicit usage can merely mean to tinker with.

  09:17, 14 December 2009 User:99.130.198.123

Carl Jung

Did Carl Jung really connect Pfluog and fuck/fick? It seems extremely far-fetched, without any basis in any sourced corpus. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 21:42, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Yet another possible etymology is from the Old High German word pfluog, meaning "to plow, as in a field" (similiar pronunciation
to ""fuk-"", the sexual euphemism being obvious). This is supported in part by a book by Carl Jung, Psychology of the
Unconscious: A Study of the Transformations and Symbolisms of the Libido, in which he discusses the "primitive play of words"
and the phallic representation of the plough, including its appearance on a vase found in an archaeological dig near Florence,
Italy, which depicts six ithyphallic men (erect penises) carrying a plow.

I'll remove it - I cannot see it in a quick scan through the entirety of Psychology of the Unconsciousness; even if it is found in Jung, Jung is by no means an etymologist and the theory seems flawed anyway (impossible to get plfuog -> fuk [sic, perhaps phonetic transcription intended], modern German has ficken, from MH German ficken not *fucken, this assumes the English/Pseudo-Latin came first, etc...) 90.212.180.42 (talk) 08:52, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

FSCK

Can we link to the wikipedia entry for FSCK? Would you also consider spelling out File System Utility ChecK so that it is clear to non-geek people like me? Thanks. Nicely done overall :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.180.202.146 (talk) 23:54, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Other uses to possibly add?

Fuck-all "nothing" first recorded 1960.

Fuck up "to ruin, spoil, destroy" first attested c.1916. 64.180.202.146 (talk) 00:17, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

No.

"A fuck" does not mean "a sexual partner." You can say, "she's a terrible fuck," but that doesn't mean sexual partner. That means she's bad at fucking. You can't say "she's my fuck," or "you will get AIDS if you have too many fucks." 128.210.12.38 (talk) 00:02, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Fixed Hadrian89 (talk) 15:06, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Proper sections

This page has apparently been written by a British author. Hence Shakespeare and British TV find mention prominently. Can the sections be more broadbased like "Occurrence in TV/Print/Movies/Songs/Meetings/etc etc". This will let new users know where to add and update. So, if i want to add something from Indian TV, where do i add it? 63.216.63.52 (talk) 11:34, 18 April 2009 (UTC) Varun

Osho

I had heard an audio recording of an Osho session which seemed like a public discourse, in which he gives 10 minute lecture on "fuck" and its varied uses in the language to the delight of the audience. Can someone reference that? 63.216.63.52 (talk) 11:36, 18 April 2009 (UTC) Varun

[1]. Funny, but not sure it is an acceptable external link. Jayen466 09:43, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Joe Biden

For the the politics section, Joe Biden is missing. Recently he was quoted saying "Give me a fucking break" to one of his advisors. It got caught on tape, and was all over the news. If someone is really bored, you sould google and add it, sourced, of course. I would do it, I'm just far too busy and thought it was notable enough to be adressed. Zakariya bin Dana (talk) 10:06, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

fuck is an agronomy

the word fuck was an agronomy regarding the king of england army and fornication

Do you have a source for that? (Also, I think you mean some other word than "agronomy".) - Jredmond (talk) 18:27, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Maybe acronym? Those theories are covered in the article, by the way (see the section "False etymologies"). Jafeluv (talk) 08:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

ofcourse because that everyone have to use the telephone to keep touch with anotherone.So that ,the telepho —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.50.134.202 (talk) 14:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

History of word FUCK

I the time of 8th Henry, King of England. Due to wars, plague and banishes, etc. Population of country were decreased and King was worried about his country future. After a research, it turns out that there are many people in prisons, because of their crimes such as prostitution, murdering, stealing, etc. King decide to allow these people to fornicate under the control of the king; so that population can be increased. In a decade of time, population was reached the desirable level. This event series called as, Fornication Under Control of the King (a.k.a FUCK)

kgg (talk) 03:44, 20 May 2009

It's in the article; see Fuck#False etymologies. Mindmatrix 01:43, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Illustrations

Why are there no illustrations? Cannot add, as article locked.93.96.148.42 (talk) 03:28, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

So what, do you want two people doing the nasty? Pictures are not necessary. KMFDM FAN (talk) 17:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

• Wikipedia is not censored: though I dare say that if they use a pornographic image in the U.S. they would be subject to U.S. Federal Law relgating the usage of pornographic images on the internet. Also, it is not a requirement for any article to have images. Wolfpeaceful (talk) 16:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• You are correct, WP is not censored. This does not mean that we need things like illustrations on Fuck. See this page. C4757p (talk) 20:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Recent uses?

Bad name for the section, it should be Notable Recent Uses 96.227.219.78 (talk) 19:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Another great use of the word is in the film "The Boondock Saints" by Troy Duffy:

                                    ROCCO
                        What did you do?! Fuckin'... what 
                        the fuckin' fuck! Who the fuck, fucked 
                        this fuckin'? fuck. How did you two 
                        fuckin', fucks?......... FUCK!!!

                                    CONNOR
                        Certainly illustrates the diversity 
                        of the word.

Bhanghai (talk) 21:47, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

And just recently USA VP Joe Biden said it on a open mike when commenting to Barack Obama (BO) ! AdamTheWebMan (talk) 15:21, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Not Irony

In June 2004, during a heated exchange on the U.S. Senate floor about Halliburton's role in the reconstruction of Iraq, Vice President Dick Cheney told Democratic senator Patrick Leahy, "fuck yourself". Ironically, Cheney's outburst occurred on the same day that the Defense of Decency Act was passed in the Senate.

This is a coincidence, not irony. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.125.177.99 (talk • contribs)

Fixed. Mindmatrix 13:42, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure about that. Seems like irony to me. You wouldn't expect the President of the Senate to be publically using explicit language while the Senate is passing a bill that is "defending decency". Seems to fit in with the notion of "tragic irony" (where someone's speech contradicts the situation) or "historical irony" Seems like it's only coincidence if the two incidences are chance events. Definitely irony if Cheney supported the bill. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.179.144.10 (talk) 02:24, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Wrong link.

• I don't know if you guys noticed, but don't have any article in the portuguese wikipedia called "foder".
  Sphynge (talk) 00:44, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
• pt:Foder has been deleted 7 times over the last 4 years, usually quickly as "garbage" or similar, the last time as "Eliminado em votação" (i.e. AfD): pt:Wikipedia:Páginas para eliminar/Foder is the Portuguese Wikipedia AfD discussion for pt:Foder. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Claim that Charles Rocket was fired for uttering "fuck" on live TV is speculation at best.

• Charles Rocket was fired along with almost the entire cast on March 10, 1981. That was three weeks and two episodes after having uttered the forbidden profanity. The fact that the rest of the cast members were also fired indicates the firing had a lot more to do with ratings and performance than standards violations. Several Wiki entries should be corrected. 00:00, 7 July 2009 User:GregE625

A couple of surprising omissions of the use of the word

1. A quick look at Who Are You (song) shows I am not the only person on earth to have heard Roger Daltry clearly sing "Who the fuck are you?" in that song. (And, Wikipedia:no original research aside, I can attest that the song was frequently played uncensored on US commercial radio during the 1970s.)
2. I was told that Ashley Montagu, in his The Anatomy of Swearing, reports that an auto mechanic once explained the problem with Montagu's car thusly: "The problem is that the fucking fuck won't fuck." (A friend who read the book claimed this was in it, & I was never able to find a copy to verify this.)

I probably wouldn't have posted these omissions had Gropecunt Lane never been a Featured Article on Wikipedia's front page. -- llywrch (talk) 05:47, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Rahm Emanuel

Rahm Emanuel's gratuitious usage of the word "fuck" ought to be added to the Politics section, as he is notorious, especially among Americans, for his usage of the word. And there are numerous citable examples. For instance, his recorded phone calls with congressmen, and the sign in his office reading "Secretary of F___ Off".

Next edit:
B/c as myself he wasn't born w/English in his mouth - he learned it, hence he cannot comprehend the offensiveness of this word. The offensiveness can only be properly comprehended when a "childhood block" is formed. I was born/raised in Russia, like Rahm Emmanuel of Jewish descent and yes I can also throw in "F" word w/o fearing it b/c - I have no "mental block" against it. Yet note I do have blocks against Russian curses, I don't like and afraid to use them without checking who is listening - they are vulgar to me. But "F" word is not equally vulgar b/c I wasn't born with English as first language. I've seen my x-coworker, a nice educated & fragile woman, would say things like "I am a little whor*" and complete what she thinks is a joke with "F* words. But to Americans her joke sounded so contradictory to this woman's appearance of a nice old lady (almost 60). Why? She learned English at the age of over 35, no mental blocks agains F word. No parents around slapping your mouth for using it, but she can't curse in Polish without thinking first - Polish is her native language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.175.53.167 (talk) 08:11, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Syntax

The following article may be a useful reference for the Wikipedia article. It discusses syntactic issues for the NP the fuck: Language Log: Fucking shut the fuck up. 124.214.131.55 (talk)

"Iconic"

I was always taught that to use the word 'iconic' in the sense in which it's used in the opening sentence of this article is erroneous, though often repeated. Strictly speaking an 'icon' is some kind of deity, but even applying the abstract meaning of it, I still don't think you would say that the word 'Fuck' is iconic, it's just enjoyed by a lot of people.

an offencive term talking about sex. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.179.234.243 (talk) 23:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Plagiarism in lead?

There are portions in the lead (and elsewhere in the article) that appear to be lifted verbatim from that flash video that's been floating around the internet for years. (link) The video could have gotten it's dialogue from this article, but I doubt it. Anyone can see that the video is intended to be comical and quoting it directly (while not being acknowledged as a source, no less, though I doubt it can hardly be described as a reliable source) just messes up the article's tone completely. - SoSaysChappy (talk) 05:34, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Which portions? I have never watched that flash video and I had not heard of it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:09, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, the second half of the entire lead, basically. And portions of the "Modern usage" section. In my personal assessment of the article, I would say it's in bad shape. It seems mostly focused on giving examples of the many different ways you can use the word. This is also the same thing the flash video does. In my mind, I equate the two, and that just makes me interpret the article as something intended to be amusing, rather than encyclopedic. I dunno, maybe I'm being unfair or irrational. I just wanted to run these thoughts by to see what anybody else might have to say. - SoSaysChappy (talk) 18:17, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I hope I am doing this correctly. I created an account just to say this. You are correct about the lines in this article being lifted verbatim. When I read this article, I remembered the audio file that I had saved on my computer when I was a kid. I still own that computer in it's original configuration and, after some searching, I found the old tower tucked in my attic. The audio portion of the file you have linked to is at least 17 years old. The sound file is identical to the one on my hard drive with the creation date of December 26, 1992. This was the file I tested my Sound Blaster 16 with. I am sure the source of the audio can be traced back to the late 80's early 90's. I think the key to tracking the date of this file is finding out when a computer could emulate that voice. (about the same time as Dr. Sbaitso, the computer voice/home therapist)Melderd (talk) 04:47, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Arnold Schwarzenegger

Shouldn't we add something about Governor Schwarzenegger using the word covertly in a letter to the California Assembly. 94.6.32.59 (talk) 17:37, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

First response: If it is sourced properly, add it. If not, don't. Wait a minute. Second response: In addition to properly sourcing evidence, in order to be added some level of notability needs to be established for this article (as opposed to the other article on Schwarzenegger). Imagine if every time someone used the word it were added. I opine the article might get a tad long. (Please note: add comments in chronological order. See logical.) —Aladdin Sane (talk) 17:49, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Scarface (1932)

Usage in popular culture. In Scarface (1932), Tony's inarticulate "secretary" throws down the telephone, pulls a gun on it, and says, "Ah, shut up you, you fuck off..." Guv2006 (talk) 17:49, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

etymology fuck

It comes from the ancient England, where people neeeded to have permission from the King for having children, so they put outside their houses F.U.C.K., which means: Fornication Under the Consent of the King.

--- This is discussed in the core article, and no, it doesn't. Edwardfortune —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.97.63.197 (talk) 00:55, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Why is this page protected?

• I mean, what could anyone put on this page that would be worse than the word "fuck"? There are certain pages that there's no question, you know they're vandalism magnets. For example the Queen of England or the Pope. Ironically, the word "fuck" on those pages would be considered vandalism, but on this page, such a graffito would not appear so much vandalism as perhaps a typographical error. There is nothing you could do to a page about fuck that would be worse than fuck itself. Maybe in Commonwealth countries you could use the word "bloody", but really, is that even a swear word? While it is a bad word in a few places. It's an adjective describing something that has blood on it in most other parts of the world. Fuck is unambiguously a swear word in all Anglophone contexts. I just want to be sure that this is not done out of paranoia. Some Wikipedia editors can be a little anal. With things like deletions, there's guidelines and peer review, but with page protection, it's a form of censorship that anyone with the power can wield with impunity. There is little traceability. Perhaps an edit comment. "I protected this because someone wrote 'poo-poo' there, and it seemed like something that might happen again someday". I mean, that's not scientific. That's not consensus. Who do you think you are to make those kinds of decisions, shutting out multiple billions of other human beings because you thought it seemed appropriate? --72.225.47.167 (talk) 03:26, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
• Wikipedia is not censored. That said, there is a vast difference between an encyclopaedic, professionally worded sentence such as "The word has probable cognates in other Germanic languages, such as German ficken (to fuck)..." and very unencyclopaedic, gratuitous use of the word, as seen in this bit of vandalism. Your argument is fallacious at multiple levels: the protection does not "[shut] out multiple billions of other human beings..."; only those who do not have an account. Furthermore, your statement "There is nothing you could do to a page about fuck that would be worse than fuck itself" is untrue: the word "fuck", when used informatively as in the example provided, is not at all offensive. Intelligentsium 03:44, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
• It's not as easy as "getting an account", you do have to make quite a few edits with it first before earning the privilege to edit semi-protected pages, which can be difficult for those who just want to make a few contributions to these types of articles, thus there are lots of people in this world who "do not have an account" on Wikipedia and are thus shut out from editing "Fuck". 71.113.46.74 (talk) 03:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
• Some pages get so much vandalism by anonymous users that regrettably they must be semiprotected. That happened with page Duck, and for a long time nearly all of its edits were vandalisms and reverts to repair vandalism. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:29, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Irish MP

• Time to add a reference to an Irish mp using 'fuck you' in parliament? 02:08, 13 December 2009 User:79.97.151.232

George Carlin tense change

time to change the tense of the verb, "is" to the past tense, "was" for George Carlin in the following paragraph under the heading, "Censorship".

Many stand-up comedians who perform for adult audiences make liberal use of the word fuck. While George Carlin's use of the word is an important part of his stage persona, other comedians (such as Andrew Dice Clay) have been accused of substituting vulgarity and offensiveness for genuine creativity through overuse of the word. Billy Connolly and Lenny Bruce were pioneers of the use of the word in their shows for general audiences.

I weighed the evidence in your argument, and I agree. The reference is to a stage persona that no longer exists. Note that this can get trickier than appears at first: Hamlet still is a play by Shakespeare, for example. In this case, the persona is endogenous to the person, a now non-existent person: The persona goes away when the person does, unlike a play by a now non-existent person. —Aladdin Sane (talk) 17:06, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Use in politics

Surely the amount of quotes here is overkill. Yes, it's unusual and therefore arguably notable when a politician drops the word in a public forum. But some of these cites are from conversations behind closed doors that have subsequently leaked to the press. Why are they notable? Digestible (talk) 06:14, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Fuck is a sound word

• Many words in the English language are merely phonetic interpretations of that word. Say bottle five times rapidly and you will get the idea. Same for slap, wack, ski, skate, rip, crush, slide etc. During sexual intercourse the slapping sound made by two pairs of thighs repeatedly coming into contact make a clear fuck fuck fuck sound. 17:49, 13 January 2010 User:Cinnaron
• "Ski" is not onomatopoeia but comes from Old Norse skið and has the same origin as English "skid". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
• Besides, the sound make when you fuck can vary and is irrelevant. --PorgeHR (talk) 01:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
• Perhaps the sound varies but I am sure that "fuck" is not sexual onomatopoeia. Staying with basic pronunciation only, my own is one of the north-western English "fook" sounds, and there are many more including the south-eastern English "fack" and f*ck ( * is the second 'o' in "common"), as well as the Irish "feck". I don't believe that you can place people geographically by the sounds they make when fucking. It's just another word that has power because of the way it's uttered. "Fuck" can be whispered softly and be seductive, but it can also have an emphatic sound power that is shared by such interjections as "Bugger", "Shit" and even more so "Shite", but not "Gosh" or "Curses". --JH49S (talk) 10:42, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
• In Ireland we use the words "feck" and "fuck" seperately, "feck" having somewhat less force. And, in Ireland at least, "shite" is a LESS "emphatically powerful" word than "shit".

"What the fuck" and "WTF"

A discussion at Talk:W.T.F. (the talk page for the South Park episode) involves discussion about redirects, moves, the disamb page WTF, and various related pages might be of some interest. Thanks. Ruodyssey (talk) 06:33, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Word Choice in the 2nd Paragraph

"it is one of the only words in the English language which"

I think this sentence does not make sense. It should either be "it is the only word" or "it is one of the few words..." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.14.129 (talk) 07:48, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

• Makes sense to me... --PorgeHR (talk) 01:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

• The sentence is too vague and uncertain. "Only" implies that there is a known number. I'm certain there are several. But how many are there?

I suspect there's only one other word: 'bloody' as in 'out-bloody-rageous'.

So a revision might read "...it is one of only two words (the other is 'bloody') in the English language which are applied in the middle of a word to strengthen its meaning (e.g. "Am I sexy? Absofuckinglutely!"). There should be a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody, too.

That will have to be edited by somebody else. For me, this article is at present protected from my edits. It's probably out-bloody-rageous, but I may be wrong and there be three or more words. --SonOfAJim (talk) 00:30, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

• You can also do it win derivatives of fuck, like un-frigging-believable. Personally I can't, but many people can. Sabrebattletank (talk) 06:12, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Parts of speech

I've seen this claimed all over the internet, but "fuck" most definitely can't be used as nearly every part of speech. It's a noun, a verb, and an interjection. That's it.

No one says "this math problem is fuck difficult!" -- they say it's "fucking difficult". Just like any other verb, it has a participle in -ing.

And a pronoun? Yes, I know you can use it to refer to people, but that just makes it a regular old noun. Like "man" or "woman". You can tell by the use of a determiner ("She's a good fuck.").

"Fuck the fucking fuckers": I hardly see why that sentence is noteworthy. It only uses the verb meaning and its morphological derivatives! I can do that with any transitive verb: "eat the eating eaters", "punish the punishing punishers", etc.

Down under "Modern usage", there's a different list: "verb, adverb, adjective, command, conjunction, exclamatory, noun and pronoun". Command? Um, you mean the imperative mood of English? Conjunction? Hardly! Again -- verb, noun, interjection, that's it.

--76.14.67.134 (talk) 22:28, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

• I agree with it not being a conjunction but it can be a command, since a command is a synonym for an imperative. --PorgeHR (talk) 01:19, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Of course. My point is that the imperative is something you can put any verb into, so this isn't really notable. Also, "command" doesn't belong in a list of parts of speech; it's still a verb. --76.14.67.134 (talk) 06:54, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

The reason is that the second paragraph is essentially PLAGIARIZED from this thing that's been floating around the internet for years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhh7Iu76yUA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.180.26.55 (talk) 05:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

why hasn't this paragraph been removed yet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bathysphere (talk • contribs) 04:30, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Derivation from Latin of the word Fuck.

An Op Ed letter was published in the Wall St. Journal, Monday, July 12, 1999 concerning the Origins of (deleted). The letter was from Ron Goodman, English Department, Quincy College.

Fuck and its possible Latin roots:

Originally from the Latin faceo, "to make, to do." Conjugate it slightly--faceo, facere, feci, factus. Then go through early High German umlaut and you get from factus to fuctus. And therein might be the original root of the word. Certainly the original meaning of "to make, to do" does fit with the more recent (1500s) use of the word until it came down to its present usage.

21:18, 2 February 2010 User:Rongoodman7

That's absolutely absurd. Early High German umlaut would reduce factus to *fectus not *fuctus. See Germanic umlaut#I-mutation in Old High German. And German never had *fucken but rather ficken; additionally, it assumes English borrowed it from German. 90.212.180.42 (talk) 08:59, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Modern usage in rap music?

• Rap music being singled out as the only genre that uses the word "fuck" is extremely inaccurate, as the word is used in nearly every genre that incorporates vocals. 05:59, 21 February 2010 User:Mkb401

Steinbeck, Cannery Row

Although there's a mention of The Naked and the Dead, there's not a word about John Steinbeck's "Cannery Row". Like others of his contemporaries, he had to use "fug" instead of "fuck" before the novel could be published.

'Cannery Row' includes two passages: "Doc, that's a fuggin' lie!" and "Go take a flying fug at the moon". If The Naked and the Dead is worth a mention, I'm certain we should include Cannery Row, because it was published in 1945, three years before Mailer's novel. And it would give Steinbeck a shout out for being a Nobel prizewinner as well as having at least two of his novels banned in the US and other places (Of Mice and Men was banned as recently as 2002; attempts to ban it persist to this day).SonOfAJim (talk) 07:09, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

More "fuck" in Music

1: Country Joe McDonald (of Country Joe and The Fish) used to work with the audience at concerts on 'The Fish Cheer', traditionally to spell out the word "fish". However, at the Woodstock Festival in 1969, McDonald called out "give me an F" and, after the audience's response, followed with the letters "U", "C" and "K" in turn before asking them "What's that spell" several times (and, of course, getting a loud and vibrant response each time). This probably still stands as a record for the most people in one place simultaneously shouting "Fuck!" several times (as many as 500,000 attended the festival, but more likely around 300,000 participated in the cheer). In that revised format, "The Fish Cheer" appeared on the Woodstock album and became one of the noted parts of the movie of the festival.

2: Pearls Before Swine's 2004 album, Wizard of Is, includes a song, "Miss Morse". The chorus is morse code (dididahdit dididah dahdidahdit dahdidah) for the word "fuck" SonOfAJim (talk) 07:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Simple Latin Etimology is Way more likely

In fact the Latin verb "figere" (to stick into, to attach, and later Vulgar for to fuck) it simply turned into the French verb "ficher" (to do, give, put, and to fuck), and into German "ficken" (to fuck), and into Italian "ficcare" (to stick into, to pierce, to fuck); Dutch "fokken" (to breed, to strike, to beget); dialectal Norwegian "fukka" (to copulate), and dialectal Swedish "fokka" (to strike, to copulate) and "fock" (penis); etc. etc. It just can't be easier. Please give your opinions. Vortex9000 (talk) 00:28, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but we try to refrain from our own opinions here. Only sourced ones could have any effect on the article. Please see WP:TALK. Cheers, Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 00:40, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Portuguese

Under "Political Uses", should you really include the Brazilian president's use of a Portuguese word that means "fuck"? It's not technically the same thing.

Severity different from country to country?

It seems much less offensive in Britain and Scotland especially. Shouldn't this be noted? 188.221.161.189 (talk) 14:41, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Current Usage

JPW Mallalieu's book "Very Ordinary Seaman" uses the word "flick" routinely to describe the word in seamen's everyday language. In the typeface used this looks very like "fuck" which it is clearly intended to convey. The late Eric Newby got around the censor in a different way in his story of working on a Swedish tall ship "The Last Grain Race" when he stated in a footnote that "fokken" was the Swedish word for a sail.

A rule when inserting "fucking" inside words

• I read in a book about slang, a rule when inserting "fucking" inside words: the word "absolutely" scans metrically as two trochees: absolutely. "Fucking" scans as one trochee. And, when infixing, the result is always "absofuckinglutely", keeping the scansion, never *"abfuckingsolutely" or *"absolutefuckingly", which do not keep the scansion. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:46, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

What is solution of India and Pakistan relationship???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.110.137.140 (talk) 18:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

The Most Famous Word on Earth: Fuck

Everybodies Favorite Word... --Necromorph-X (talk) 16:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Temporary Issue

The "Etymology" chapter is rather scarce for such a common word. It appears obvious that such a common word was extensively researched and here's a bit of proof: Number of hits from a search of keywords +fuck+etymology in Google "Approximately 1.050.000 rezults (0,15 seconds)" Thus, I would respectfully ask Wikipedia enthusiasts to further their knowledge of this happy word's origins and enrich the "Etymology" chapter. Most interesting would be the etymological path that this word has undertaken. Thank you.

10:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Felix. a.k.a BlackTomcat

work on this page hard enough for it to become a featured article

that would be kind of funny