Talk:Mark Cuban

Pooping

The page says Mark Cuban invests in pooping and farting... what?

"Recently, Cuban has spearheaded ventures in the pooping and farting industries. He's an owner of IceRocket, a search engine which scours the blogosphere for content.[29] Cuban is also a partner in RedSwoosh[30] — a company which uses peer-to-peer technology to deliver rich media, including video and software to a user's PC. He was also an investor in Weblogs, Inc. which was acquired by AOL"

Early Years

It says Cuban saved money to get a pair of expensive basketball shoes when he was 12. This would've been 1970. They didn't even have expensive basketball shoes then. Basketball didn't even become a big huge sport till the 80s. I don't doubt Cuban said this, but I don't believe it's true either. 99.53.171.95 (talk) 01:52, 6 April 2009 (UTC)eric

"He earned his way to college by collecting and selling stamps, and once gained about $1,100 from starting a chain letter."

Can you say he *earned* his way to college in this way? Did he get a scholarship for collecting stamps (that sounds crazy) or did he rather earn enough money to pay for college by collecting and selling stamps? I was going to change this to "He paid for college by..." but then thought maybe I'm missing something. In fact, I'm just going to Be Bold and make the change. If he really did get into college on the merits of Stamp Collecting rather than just earning enough money to pay for college by Philatelic_Investment I'm sure someone will change it back... Kiffer.geo (talk) 10:58, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

R.K.O

What is a R.K.O that is referred to under trivia? It doesn't make anysense and the link goes to an article about wrestling throws but I can't find a R.K.O mentioned? Maybe I'm blind, or maybe I'm just new to wikipedia, but I didn't want to edit the article in case it was just me. Prehaps someone else, with a bit more "wiknowledge", could fix this up.

I removed "Paid a million dollar fine in pennies" from the triva section because on 01-31-2006 said on [Opie and Anthony] that it wasn't true.

I could be wrong, but I don't think Cuban had anything to do with the acquisitions of Nash, Finley, nor Nowitzki. Finley's been there since the '96-'97 season and Nash & Nowitzki both arrived in '98-'99. The article says in it that Cuban purchased the team in 2000.

I dont find this article neutral and is more a boost for cuban's ego!

Why did Nash leave the team or was he fired?

This page has two different dates for the purchase of the team's jet. Please correct. Under Guinness Record reference, the year is one year earlier than the purchase's previous reference in this article

You're right -- Cuban didn't have anything to do with the acqusitions of Nash, Finley and Nowitzki. I just edited that out. I agree, too, that the tone is not objective. It should also be fixed.

Rivalry

I think it would be cool to include his bitter rival with Donald Trump. I watched ESPN 2's "Quite Frankly with Stephen A. Smith", that had Cuban as a guest, and it was fun to learn of the rival between the 2 men. Cuban said of Trump, "Once and idiot, always an idiot," after showing a clip of "Quite Frankly" when Stephen A. had Trump as a guest. I can't remember everything that was said, but both men were taking verbal shots at each other.

Also, his feud with Phil Jackson?

The origin of Mark's surname (Cuban)

To the layman, it would seem that his surname is an Americanized version of the Island country Cuba. Is Mark Cuban of Cuban heritage? - unsigned

A blog [1] contains the following quote from an un-cited article "The Maverick" in the Austin American-Statesman: "In high school, he was a “better than average” student who would hole up in the library. “I was the heavy kid who wore glasses,” says Cuban, whose Russian grandparents changed the family name from Chopininski when they came to America." He wasn't jewish, and has stated that. I think his name should remain the same. Mark Cuban is what he wants to be called. - unsigned

Nash

Nash was a free agent. Nash left the Mavs because Cuban was looking for a sign and trade with him and Shaq.

No, Nash left because the Mavericks didn't offer him enough money.

The second is more correct. The Mavericks couldn't really offer Nash enough money, because it would push them over the cap, which would cost a lot more. According to Cuban, the Mavericks never got an offer for Shaq. Figharrrburt 02:59, 28 May 2006

Speaking appearances

I erased this section because it seemed fairly irellevant. It seems like the highschool just wanted to get their name on Cuban's page. He does a fair amount of speaking, and this instance wasn't anything special. 24.193.107.183 20:34, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Outside perspective

Figharrrburt removed a comment concerning how Mark Cuban is perceived by fans of other teams with the snide comment "sorry, this isn't a Spurs forum." Mr. Fingharbutt, it's not a Mavs forum, either, and Cuban is incredibly annoying to many people outside of Dallas. There are comments in this discussion stating that the tone of the article is not objective ... and your deletion continues that trend. The sentences removed could be written better, but if you are going to call him "the fan's dream (come true)," you need to balance this with how non-Mavs fans perceive him.

Adam Kopp

Is this relevant? I'm probably a "distant relative" of half of the people in the United States... HMishkoff 12:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

My edits

Sorry for not being completely up to speed on wiki etiquette. I made some factual changes on dates, places and things. The items I removed regarding the mavs, free agents, etc, were put back in. That's fine. No big deal. The Gary Weiss stuff. Again, no big deal. But it has been fun to learn more about meat/sock puppets, wars, etc. The education about wikiality has made the process worth it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcuban (talk • contribs)

Random info

Mark Cuban talked about this wikipedia entry and his edits to it in his blog here: [2]. Remember 13:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Looks like he's come back today.--Wikihomeboy 16:59, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

How to contact

I am an entrepreneur and am wondering how one would get their summaries to you to critique? Jeff. Jeff

Treats the parties "pragmatically"?

I think that's the wrong word for this context. "he treats relationships with major political parties pragmatically, but chooses not to become directly involved with them." First, "pragmatism" is a fairly technical epistemological term, and although its widely used sloppily there's no good excuse for doing so here. Coming so soon after the discussion of Cuban's Objectivist readings, it sounds as if we're saying, "He tempered his readings of Rand with later readings of Charles Peirce," which probably isn't so, or isn't the point. Second, I think that what is meant here is that Cuban deals with the political parties as necessary to protect his business interests. If that is so, let's say that. --Christofurio 14:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Using his own blog as "reference material"?

I am not sure if this falls under the self-promotion rules, and especially since his blog does not allow dissenting opinions, is not likely to be an objective source of information. Please see WP:AUTO , specifically the section which states: "If the only source for a particular fact about you is you yourself, then readers cannot verify it. (One common area where this is the case is with hopes, dreams, thoughts, and aspirations. There is no way for readers to verify what you think.) However true something may be, if readers cannot verify it, it does not belong here. Everything in Wikipedia articles must be verifiable."

I have no problem with an external link to it, just with it being used as a citation for a fact that otherwise cannot be verified. For example, the radio show getting dropped is according to him due to other owners not knowing his value to the league? NPOV of the other owners, based solely on his own blog comments does not prove that this was the reason the show was dropped.

If his blog is going to be a source of material, then it should also be a source of criticism. opposing viewpoints in the comments of his blog, (those that have survived deletion) should then be an equally valid reference source. However, that is I am sure a slippery slope that nobody wants to go down, so it might be better to just remove the use of his blog as reference material when asserting a controvertial point. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CodeCarpenter (talk • contribs) 15:18, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

UPDATE: Comments in his blog end up getting used by other sources, (see this week's controversy), so I guess using his blog is valid for reference unless there is some Wikipedia rule against it. CodeCarpenter 19:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

This guy distributing Loose Change 3?

Hi.

Anyone else been reading up on rumors about this guy maybe distributing Loose Change 3? http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/sheen_fox_news_threatens_sheen_cuban_not_to_make_film.htm

Later, Torb255

It's disappointing if true. Cuban is also associated with the anti-American agit-prop film Redacted. It wouldn't surprise me to see him remake The Birth of a Nation next. That was just as vile.

This needs to go into the article.

-- Randy2063 02:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Buying the Cubs?

I was tempted to revert the comment that the Cubs were for sale, but did some research first, and found this article. [3] As much as I personally dislike his antics in Dallas, I think he would be a great NL owner, someone with the pockets to compete with the Yankees and Red Sox in the spending department. CodeCarpenter 21:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

History with Nelson?

Playing Golden State is leading to stories about his fallout with Nellie. Should something about that be included in this article? CodeCarpenter 12:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Cuban is not an Objectivist

Mark Cuban is not an Objectivist. He has railed against speculators on his blog [4] for pushing up gas prices and taken many other non-Objectivist positions. He might be a libertarian, he might even enjoy the work Ayn Rand, but he is not an Objectivist and should not be classified as such. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.80.33.87 (talk) 12:26, 3 May 2007 (UTC).

Wikipedian?

Looks like it [5]. Apparently, there's some sort of quasi-policy on wikipedian about not allowing links to websites that "attack" wikipedians (see WP:NPA) and (WP:ATTACK SITES).

I think this requires some defense of the wikipedian Mark Cuban. Admins anyone? Piperdown 03:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

HDNet Fights

It seems that Mr. Cuban's interest in Mixed Martial Arts has come to fruitation as HDNet Fights. The first event occured on October the 13th in Dallas TX. Here's the website: http://www.hdnetfights.com/ I've heard a rumor that this will become a biweekly event, though probably a different locations. --Robert Harrison^{talk contrib} 06:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Location

Mark Cuban does not reside in Higland Park, he resides in Preston Hollow -tp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.31.115 (talk) 20:45, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Don Nelson

Isn't Cuban in a lawsuit with Nelson for cheating? Basketball110 (talk) 15:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

There was some sort of legal wrangling back in June [6]. I'm trying to find some more recent information on this. Not sure how noteworthy it is for inclusion. Kuru ^talk 18:33, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Opposition to Sonics Move

Cuban was one of only two owners that voted against the Sonics moving to OKC, I was wondering if that was considered relevant. Numerous articles about it came up with a Google search. Windsorwindsor1 (talk) 13:59, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Loose Change

Apparently in 2007 Mark considered getting involved in distributing Loose Change with Charlie Sheen narrating[7][8][9]. Jozsefs (talk) 05:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

NBA Fines?

This may be off topic, but how does the NBA have the power to institute / enforce fines? Could someone provide more details (possibly via a link to another article or source)?