Talk:Tamil Kshatriya

Muthuraja as Kshatriya

Even the NCERT text book refers to Muthuraja as rulers of Kaveri Delta before the Cholas. Few Sub castes of Muthuraja are Forward Caste & few others sub castes are listed as OBC, however both Forward Caste & Backward Muthuraja are both Kshatriyas. In today's context even the Landowning castes in Tamil Nadu are listed as backward due to political reasons, this includes most Mudaliars & Pillais. Rajkris has not bothered to look at NCERT reference attached in one of my edits.

Muthuraja are Kshatriyas,Even Kshatriya Lodh Rajputs in North are designated as OBC(Shivraj Singh Chauhan the MP chief ministers is an OBC Rajput).Most of the Vellars are also designated as OBC except for a very small group of Vellalars. OBC is not a Varna Categorisation. Lord Krishna belonged to OBC Yadav community.Jats are OBC Kshatriyas in some states,in other states they are fighting for OBC status. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajananand456 (talk • contribs) 13:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand the use of the word "high ranking" in context of caste, are castes really ranked. It's merely to make the user feel good. And it doesn't comply with Wikipedia standards. Some cleanup necessary. --115.184.86.117 (talk) 09:21, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Muthurajah - Stop Vandalism

Some people here are trying to make believe that Muthutrajah are kshatriyas which is not at all the case: [1], page 121: "The Muthuraja, who are mainly agricultural workers...", "The Vagri and the Muthuraja (...) both officially classed as MBC". Please stop your vandalism. Rajkris (talk) 22:54, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Muthurajah - counter view

Please note , as mentioned earlier Kshariya Jats & Rajputs are also agricultural workers. Agriculture has been the primary occupation of Kshatriyas. It will be a misconception & far fetched to believe all Kshatriyas are Zaminadars, many of them are agriculural labourers.

Kongu & Chozhia Vellalar

These casts are traditionnally peasant casts who till the lands with their hands. This way of life has nothing to do Aristocraty.They are BC castes [2]. Rajkris (talk) 15:06, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In your refs it is not told that Sozia or Kongu are Kshatriya or Aristocratic castes, so you are writing things with fake refs.Rajkris (talk) 15:56, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another ref: [3] page 86 "The Chozhia Vellalas (...) are believed to constitute the truly indigenous peasantry of the Chola country"Rajkris (talk) 23:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I got a chance to take a look at the references, and they don't seem to have anything to do with this page at all. It's possible that Konguboy included the wrong page number, but I don't see reference to Kshatriya, or, for that matter, to the Oddiar whom the added info refers to. As such, I concur that the information should not be included. However, please note that this does not justify the edit warring conducted by either side to include or exclude the information. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:35, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]