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Some of these artists are too recent to be considered one hit wonders. Jesse McCartney's "Beautiful Soul" came out two monthes ago. A bit soon, eh?

The criteria stated on the main page is that "As a rule of thumb, an artist should not be added to this list within a year of their first hit's entry on the Billboard Hot 100.", so 2 months is definitely too soon. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 21:49, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

I have removed McCartney because he is currently having a second hit anyways68.44.184.172 03:01, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Was "Tangled Up In Me" by Skye Sweetnam even a hit in the U.S.? It barely got any play in her home country (Canada). Also, it seems to me that a lot of the artists on this list are there rather prematurely and could still have more hits in the near future. The 2000's only started five years ago; it's a bit too early to say what artists will be one hit wonders in my opinion. -- Anon.

Some of the entries on this page you may be right about, but when the time comes, they can be easily removed. Caphis 08:00, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Three Days Grace (Just Like You, Home), Jimmy Eat World (Sweetness, Work), and Modest Mouse (Ocean Breathes Salty) have all had second hits. Perhaps there should be at least a year waiting period before calling them "one hit wonders"

Three Days Grace and Modest Mouse has had no US Top 40 hits to date, and Jimmy Eat World's only US Top 40 hit is "The Middle", just to let you know. Carolaman 00:18, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: Just reverted the addition of two obviously erroneous entries. Ciara has had 3 top 40 hits (Oh, Goodies, and 1,2 Step). Gwen Stefani has had 2 (Rich Girl, Hollaback girl). Please use Allmusic to verify additions before adding them. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:08, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

Added Irv Gotti, Hoku, Steve Holy, J-Kwon and J-Shin; they all qualify according to Allmusic standards. Sebastian Prospero 23:59, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Added Kandi, Las Ketchup, Lucy Pearl, Mary Mary, P.O.D., Papa Roach, Pitbull, Profyle, Natasha Bedingfield, D.H.T., Teairra Mari and the Pussycat Dolls; they all qualify accoding to Allmusic standards. I don't know why Papa Roach keeps on getting removed; their only hit on the top 40 of the Billboard Hot 100 was this year's "Scars." Sebastian Prospero 03:04, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I know for a fact that Bo Bice had only one top-40 hit, "Inside Your Heaven" this past July. It is no longer on the charts, so I don't know why Allmusic doesn't list it. In order to maintain the integrity of the criteria for inclsion on the Wikipedia one-hit wonder list, I will not include it, unless you can provide further verification. Sebastian Prospero 03:04, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Las Ketchup did not chart higher than 40. Please be more careful in the future. Also, we typically don't like to list artists that have only had a hit in the past year, but I'll leave Pussycat Dolls for now. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 13:36, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Las Ketchup only reached #54; I stand corrected. But since you included Fall Out Boy, I figured it was OK to include the Pussycat Dolls. Sebastian Prospero 23:54, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

According to Allmusic standards, Howie Day does not qualify since "Collide" peaked at #41. Daddy Yankee had a hit in 2004 with N. O. R. E. which peaked above #40 ("Oye Mi Canto") - although he was featured on the record, Billboard credited his name to the single. They are both being removed. I am readding Papa Roach, since "Scars" remains their only top-40 hit, despite their popularity. Sebastian Prospero 21:40, 14 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Prospero, Papa Roach doesn't qualify because they have had 3 Top 40 albums, and "Collide" peaked at #20, not #41. You're right about Daddy Yankee though. I'll take him off. Carolaman 05:10, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Removal

Why does one contributor keep removing "Willa Ford" from the list? According to allmusic.com, she has only had one single which charted on Hot 100. Any removal of any artist from this list should be accompanied by an explanation in the edit summary or on this talk page. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:34, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

As has been stated before, Mandy Moore is not eligible as she has had 4 albums chart < 40 on The Billboard 200. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 21:06, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]


To the AOL IP addresses that continually remove and add entries without explanation

I'm still trying to be diplomatic about this and assume good faith, though the actions of the AOL IP addresses are consistent with that of outright vandalism. I will reiterate that if you have evidence that allmusic's information on Willa Ford is incorrect, please post it here on the talk page. The removal of artists without discussion or edit summaries is tantamount to vandalism, and inserting irrelevant threats into the text of the article most certainly is vandalism. Please engage in discussion before further editing or you will be blocked. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 19:28, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Kelly Clarkson shouldn't really be on the list, short as it may be. "Since U Been Gone" is actually a bigger hit than "Miss Independent."Bjones 15:14, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Kelly Clarkson definitely doesn't belong on the list, she has four hits in the top 40. This was an incident of vandalism by the aforementioned AOL IPs, I've blocked the offending one for now. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:26, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, sorry to hear that. But the list is looking pretty good now. Kudos.Bjones 06:02, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for data more up to date than allmusic.com

If you are going to remove an entry based on a source with more recent data than allmusic.com, post the link here. Note that the source should be a verifiable, authoritative source, such as http://www.billboard.com.

  • The Pussycat Dolls have scored their second Top 40 hit.

[1] OmegaWikipedia 15:30, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Same with Fall Out Boy (Dance, Dance)

Current acts with new singles shouldn't be on list

  • Natasha Bedingfield

Bedingfield's new single in the US "Unwritten" was serviced to radio. Too soon for one hit wonder status. (Yeah, and now it peaked at #60)

  • Jesse McCartney

McCartney has a new single at radio, too soon for one hit wonder status. (Disney Radio!, which doesn't matter; Most songs that appear on it don't make the Billboard Hot 100)

  • Angie Martinez

Martinez scored a top 10 hit with Lil Kim in 1997 with "Not Tonight"

  • John Legend

Legend is active and like Rihanna below, too soon to call her a one hit wonder.

  • Ashlee Simpson

Simpson has a top 20 hit with "Boyfriend"

  • David Banner

David has released 3 albums that have hit Top 10 on the Billboard 200 (2 of them Pre - "Play").

  • Rihanna

Rihanna is #76 on the Hot 100 with a new single that is still moving up the chart, too soon to call her a one hit wonder.

  • Pitbull

He's had at least 2 more major hits since Culo. (Toma and Shake)

  • T-Pain

T-Pain's "I'm in love with a stripper is doing real well

  • Young Jeezy

Young Jeezy just keeps cranking them hits, how can he be on this list???

  • Chris Brown

Brown is a new act, and "Run It" is his first single, hasn't been on the Hot 100 for 10 weeks, this it NOT a one hit wonder (yet).

BillboardChart 18:03, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The policy is that an artist shouldn't be listed until their first single is over 1 year old. However, some people are overly eager to label new artists... --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:21, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]


I agree, why is Chris Brown on that list? His album hasn't even been released. Horrible list. OperativePhrase 03:16, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Macy Gray

I sort of feel she is a two hit wonder. "Do Something" was a hit, even if it didn't chart (due to chart rules at the time). It was nominated for a Grammy Award, and Won and MTV Video Music Award. Not to mention I saw video on MTV Hits a few hours ago. And before "I Try" was released the album was certifed Gold thanks to "Do Something".

"Sort of feel" is the operative phrase there. The policies are in place to avoid any sort of POV coloring, and to establish an objective framework for the article. The billboard chart is used to keep the list from being based on feelings or opinions, and provides objective facts. Macy Gray almost qualifies for exclusion as she has two albums in the top 40 of the Billboard 200 and one that hits 43... However, the whole point of the strict limits for the list are to keep people from reading some sort of judgement call into the label "one-hit wonder", so it's best to be consistent. Also, can you sign your posts on talk pages from now on? --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:19, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Rihanna

I'm removing Rihanna; she currently has a #36 hit on Billboard with "If It's Lovin' That You Want" - http://billboardradio.com/billboardradio/2140.jsp Sebastian Prospero 18:46, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

James Blunt

I removed "You're Beautiful" as it's by far too early to put him off as one-hit wonder. After all, the single entered the charts only a couple of months ago. Let's wait till he recorded another album, at least. - 15 January 2005 (UTC)

TAke him off when he has another hit

Rule Of Thumb + page with charts entry dates given

I just added this rule of thumb thing, taken from the top of this page. As this decade will go on for a couple more years, I think it's pretty useful. Also, I don't want to delete that darn James Blunt single again and again. It's not like I'm in love with that guy or anything, but it's plain and simple too early. AFAIK a second US single wasn't even released as of yet (correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't found any).

Anyway, the most reliable page I have found where you can find both year AND week of chart entry is this one:

http://www.charts-surfer.de/musikcharts1024.htm

See below. (I am German, so I wasn't paying attention to this "detail" :P) -- Velour 06:15, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There's a english version of the page, you can reach by clicking the English link on the bottom. Carolaman 17:25, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Natasha Bedingfield

Bedingfield has had 2 top 20 US hits as of January 2006.

These Words: #17 & Unwritten: #14 (as of January 2006, it has a bullet and moved 28-14 this week)

I agree, but why did you remove James Blunt? I'm re-adding him. --DDG 20:43, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Christina Milian

has had 3 Top 40 hits in the US

AM to PM #27 Dip It Low #5 and a track with Ja Rule that was Top 40.

Kelis

User:RomeoVoid removed Kelis because he "thought that she had a hit with someone else". You might be thinking of "Baby I got your money" by ODB, but that was an ODB song, and she just sang the hook. As far as I know, and according to Allmusic, she still only has one top 40 hit with Milkshake. --DDG 17:12, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Its not on Kelis' Allmusic page because they don't list "with..." credits. She was still credited alongside Ol' Dirty Bastard so it counts. RomeoVoid 00:40, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to Gracenote and Billboard, this song was listed as "Ol' Dirty Bastard / Got Your Money (Single) 1. Got Your Money (Featuring Kelis)". The artist is still just ODB. Billboard only lists the song as "Ol' Dirty Bastard", too. I don't think any major music source credits "hook singers" alongside artists. Any other objections to re-adding the song for now? --DDG 19:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

POV

Look, adding a band or act that has just released it's first single in the past 2 or 3 years (or first charting single) is POV. Yes, this is in reaction to James Blunt. I'm not a big fan of the song, but frankly, adding him this early is a) PREDICTING THE FUTURE (something that Wikipedia is not, see Wikipedia is not a Crystal Ball), and b) POV since you are essentially saying that he is not worth more than 1 charting single. So, for God's sake! Stop adding him to the list! --THollan 04:57, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Relax. We can always take him off when he has another hit. Right now he IS a one-hit wonder. RomeoVoid 00:42, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll add a current event tag, so this article won't be "predicting the future." RomeoVoid 00:52, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"You're Beautiful" still *is* in the charts. As a matter of fact it currently holds the #3 spot! Putting him on this list *is* both, "predicting the future" and POV.
Natasha Bedingfield's been on this list too - her 2nd single currently is #7. Why was she on this list in the first place? Because people forejudged her career, indeed saying she isn't worth another hit (because they couldn't stand the song, or her, I'd say).
Calling someone a "one-hit wonder" is anything but a complement. Some people in the UK called Kate Bush a "one-hit wonder" when her debuting single peaked at #1, hoping she'd never return. She turned out to be one of the most succesful and enduring acts there. Same thing with Madonna and her "Holiday" in the US.

So, no, it isn't any justified to add James Blunt to this list - unless each and every single debuting act in the Top 40 would be added as well (currently, I think, these are Ne-Yo, Daniel Powter and Cascada). That would make this whole list unnecessary though.

To keep the credibility and the encyclopedic character of this list I strongly advise NOT to add *any* current act to this list, but only acts whose Top 40 singles are *at least* older than one year. Personally I'd even prefer, to wait until they release their second album. Only then it is clear if they ARE one-hit wonders after all - and this list is about one-hit wonders (e.g. Nena, Los Del Rio, Anita Ward, etc). Velour 17:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is getting ridiculous

I just removed all artists who had a top 40 single in 2005. My reasons for doing so are stated above.

FYI this is a total of 14 acts. Three of those acts are currently in the Top 5 of the Billboard 200; one of them currently holds the #1 spot; another one entered the charts 5 weeks ago.

According to the main-article One-hit wonders in the United States a one-hit wonder is:
"[...]a Top-40 phenomenon: the combination of artist and song that scores big in the music industry with one smash hit, but is unable to repeat the achievement with another hit."
Obviously an artist who debuted in 2005 (or had his/her/their first single in the top 40 that year) cannot meet this criteria.

I'd like to point out that, while any of these acts might be a potential one-hit wonder, the chances for becoming a real one are 50-50. Thus, Please see Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a crystal ball for further explanations.

Currently this list is utterly useless.

Mario

Mario is not a one-hit wonder. "Just A Friend" and "Let Me Love You" were both Top 10 in the US.