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John Otto Siegel

Does anyone have a source that John Otto Siegel was Jewish? I haven't seen him on other lists and can't find any information about him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MRugel (talk • contribs) 20:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scharfstein as source

Scharfstein's Chronicle of Jewish History is a children's book. It should be treated very skeptically as a source. Many of the Medal of Honor recipients included here can be verified as non-Jews with a little research. Anyone included on this list based on Scharfstein should probably be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MRugel (talk • contribs) 20:06, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the book does have some names that differ and frankly I don't know what the sources were that they used for recipietns such as Matt Urban but most of the names have multiple references (although a couple have alternate spellings) that verify the individuals religion and I have noted them in the references column. If you have some other references that identify Jewish recipients or that argue one of the recipients is not jewish I will gladly incorporate that. What I can at least do is add a note that clarifies to the readers that recipients such as Matt Urban who are only identified in one of the multiple references might not be Jewish. Is that acceptable? --Kumioko (talk) 20:30, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Urban is Polish descent and proud of it (The Matt Urban Story, 1989, by Urban. He should be revoved. He was born in New York too which makes him an "American" Medal of Honor recipient only. His wife and family gets news of this they probably won't like it. Nothing wrong with being Jewish descent but it don't apply here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.79.31.20 (talk) 07:26, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you think "of Polish descent", "American", and "Jewish" are mutually exclusive? Why can't one be an "American Medal of Honor recipient" and a "Jewish Medal of Honor recipient"? Jayjg ^(talk) 13:57, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Urban was an American. He was not a Polish American much less a Jewish American (Jew that became an American citizen). And he is not a recipeint of an Israel Medal of Honor (Jewish Medal of Honor recipeint). When he died he was age 75, not "aged 75" (Wikipdia-Matt Urban) which sounds like he was a piece of wood or something (aged wine). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.79.31.20 (talk • contribs)

"Israeli" is not a synonym for "Jewish". They mean different things. Jewish Americans generally do not have to "become American citizens", the vast majority are born that way. Please respond more meaningfully. Jayjg ^(talk) 03:34, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

After researching this some more, it appears that Scharfstein is the only source that states Urban was Jewish. Other sources, including full-length books written about him, make no mention of this. In fact, they indicate he was a typical Polish-Catholic American, baptised and raised in the Catholic church. Jayjg ^(talk) 05:07, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The deception didn't work. Urban's not a Polish American either. He didn't become an American citizen, he was born one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.79.31.20 (talk • contribs)

What on earth are you talking about? Jayjg ^(talk) 14:41, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First you try to make him Jewish and a Jewish American war hero (even though Wikipedia says he of "Polish heritage") and then an orphan ("raised in the Catholic church") and a so called "Polish-Catholic American" when he was parented by a couple who were of the Roman Catholic faith. He, himself, didn't come from Poland (Polish American); or Rome (he was an American Catholic). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.79.31.20 (talk) 19:26, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I still have no idea what you are talking about. I haven't written anything about Roman Catholics (much less them being from Rome), Polish Americans are not necessarily born in Poland, American Jews are Jews born in or citizens of America, and I didn't write this article. Please read the articles linked to in the previous sentence, start making coherent and sensible comments, and login YahwehSaves (talk · contribs). Jayjg ^(talk) 19:36, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel G. Fuqua?

Does anyone but Scharfstein claim Fuqua is Jewish? The first source used does not include him, and I can't find any other source indicating he is Jewish. Jayjg ^(talk) 19:45, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No thats the only one. There are several recipients on this list that are only listed in 1 source but I listed them anyway noting as such. --Kumioko (talk) 03:27, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm concerned about this one - other sources don't include him, and we've already seen Scharfstein include one dubious name. And while this doesn't mean a huge amount, Fuqua is apparently an Anglicization of the (non-Jewish) French name Fouquet. I suppose it's possible this particular Fuqua had a Jewish mother or converted to Judaism, but I see nothing about this in any sources. Jayjg ^(talk) 03:34, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I still haven't been able to find a source confirming Fuqua, aside from Scharfstein. If we can't find one, I propose to remove him too - it just seems too dubious. Jayjg ^(talk) 21:32, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article is an embarrassment and should not be relied upon

Almost half the names on this list may not belong here according to a fellow who has done some research:

http://www.mypostingcareer.com/forums/index.php?/topic/4704-wikipedias-jewish-medal-of-honor-winners/

Conclusion:

"So, La Wik's editors claim that 28 winners of the Medal of Honor are Jewish, and yet, as you can see above, at least a dozen of these claims are very dubious, if not completely erroneous. So, it is likely that there are only 15 or 16 Jewish Medal of Honor winners.

I'm not going to go into the sources that Wikipedia used to justify this, I will just tell you that if you really want to get a good laugh, take a look at the way the references refer to to each other. It's a perfect clusterfuck of Tribe meets Wik."

204.195.51.47 (talk) 15:14, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]