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Cast list at Doctor Who

I don't know when this happened or how thoroughly it was discussed, but I do not like the main cast list at Doctor Who's infobox reading only the current three stars with no qualifications. This goes directly against WP:FICTION's policy on the "present" in fictional works, as well as implying to those completely unfamiliar with the programme (of which some may actually exist) that these three stars are the only lead actors the show has ever had. I understand the need to limit it considering the number of regulars the show has had, but this is ridiculous. Perhaps just list all eleven Doctors and no companions, or all the Doctors and "various companions, currently..." as before? U-Mos (talk) 18:30, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Practice for shows where the cast often completely changes (as opposed to attritional cast changes like, say, Lost) is that we make note of the fact the cast often changes: see Skins, whose cast changes every two years. Sceptre ^(talk) 19:54, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

What it used to be ("Various Doctors" with current underneath; "Various Companions" with current underneath) is pretty much equal to the Skins page. I'm changing it to the way it was. Glimmer721 ^talk 03:15, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

A christmas Carol listing on Series 6 page

I noticed that "A Christmas Carol was listed in the "Supplemental episodes and specials" section of the Doctor Who (series 6) page, but previous Christmas specials are listed in the episode list of Doctor Who (series 2), Doctor Who (series 3), and Doctor Who (series 4). In relation to this, should The Five Doctors be listed in the episode list of Doctor Who (season 20) like series 2-4, or in a Specials section like Series 6? I just think we should be consistent across series/season pages. Etron81 (talk) 16:20, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't know about The Five Doctors (I think there is a discussion above about whether that should be considered part of season 20), but I've moved "A Christmas Carol" (as I had been planning). Not sure why it was in the supplemental section to begin with. Glimmer721 ^talk 23:43, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Season/Series articles category

Now that there are season pages for all of the classic series, should "Category:Doctor Who series" be renamed to something like "Category:Doctor Who seasons and series"? Etron81 (talk) 20:01, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Maybe just "seasons" to avoid confusion? It's essentially the generic term. I don't mind either, though. Glimmer721 ^talk 23:56, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Gwen Cooper and Rhys Williams nominated for Good Article

Gwen Cooper and Rhys Williams (Torchwood) have been nominated as good articles. Help would be appreciated either with a review or by implementing any fixes or improvements that can be done. Eshlare (talk) 23:06, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Russell T Davies

Just a note: Russell T Davies (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) was (finally) promoted to FA in the past week. :) Sceptre ^(talk) 18:40, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

I noticed and moved him from the GA table to the FA list on WP:WHO's homepage. Great work! Now who/what are you going to tackle next? Glimmer721 ^talk 23:30, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

I may try to get Graeme Harper to at least GA. Maybe Elisabeth Sladen too. At any rate, I'm going to have a long break before tackling another. Sceptre ^(talk) 01:23, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Wish I could help out, but I have no idea where to start on biography articles other than copyediting. Oh well, you deserve the break! :) Glimmer721 ^talk 16:24, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month

I was wondering if anyone was interested in WikiWomen's History Month, which takes place in March. Following WikiProject The X-Files, we could work on female characters (and there's a lot in Doctor Who, not to mention Torchwood) and their actresses. Plus, we could add female crew members (like Verity Lambert). So what do you guys think? Glimmer721 ^talk 16:31, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

List of unmade Doctor Who serials and films

I have nominated List of unmade Doctor Who serials and films for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. --He to Hecuba (talk) 18:29, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Doctor Who: The Adventure Games

There is a lot of unsourced (and I think fake) information, such as the developers and platforms, being added to the infobox of Doctor Who: The Adventure Games by IPs. This has happened before, and I reverted it, but they keep putting it back in. Some of the IPs only edit that page, and I suspect they may be the same person. Do you think I should have the page protected?Americanwhofan (talk) 18:44, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

You could try Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, but I'm not sure you'll have much luck with an IP who edits once a month. Edgepedia (talk) 19:39, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Dalek video games

Template:Dalek video games has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Digifiend (talk) 20:58, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Class needs updating

I happened to notice that three articles in the 'future' class have now happened - that is Torchwood: Miracle Day, The New World (Torchwood) and Rendition (Torchwood) - so they will need updated. 188.221.79.22 (talk) 19:27, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

The category listing these articles is Category:Future-Class Doctor Who articles. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:42, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Adding articles to the project

I've gone through and added some writers and directors who have written/directed more than one episode/serial of Doctor Who and/or Torchwood and Sarah Jane to the project. I was wondering if there is a policy for this as well as the guest stars. Do they have to write/direct/act in more than one episode to be included in the project? For instance, we include Kylie Minogue and David Morrissey even though they only guest-starred in one episode. So why not Carey Mulligan or Claire Skinner (or even James Corden)? Glimmer721 ^talk 22:22, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

I'd say receiving title billing in the programme certainly warrants inclusion in the project, so Skinner and Minogue and Morrissey (and Lindsay Duncan and Michelle Ryan) YES. Others I guess would have to recur. James Corden does, and was a companion in one episode, so I'd say include him. Carey Mulligan may be an exception, as there's a lot of secondary material relating to her single appearance. I'm not aware of any set policy though. U-Mos (talk) 14:59, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I added [[Mal Young] (exec. producer of series 1) and John Simm (appeared in 5 episodes as the Master, received title billing in The End of Time). Glimmer721 ^talk 01:48, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Regular companions in future episodes

I remember during series 6 we were very cautious adding the regular companions to future episodes on such pages as Companion (Doctor Who) until we had confirmation that they would appear as a companion. (Considering what happened, we were probably right.) How does everyone feel about this now? Edgepedia (talk) 21:22, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

I think it's fine to add her as a companion (and have Amy and Rory end at 7, as Gillan and Moffat decided she would leave for good), although has it been confirmed she will be in episode 6 on? The source doesn't say that. This says Amy and Rory will leave in episode 5 (with the Weeping Angels!!) but she could be introduced at the end of that one...(like how Donna popped up in "Doomsday") Glimmer721 ^talk 22:34, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, having seen the beginning of the video in the reference in that article it says she will be "taking over" in the Christmas special, though we probably need a source saying that will be the sixth episode (but will it still be considered part of the series?). Also sorry mentioning Donna-"first appearence" means "first appearence as companion" as I should have known... Glimmer721 ^talk

I've seen a source that Rory and Amy leave in episode 5, and a new companion is introduced in the Christmas special. I've seen nothing to say that both Rory and Amy are in all of episodes 1 to 4. Also although we are introduced to the new companion in the Christmas special, is she a companion in that epsiode, and is she going to be in all the following episodes as companion? Edgepedia (talk) 15:26, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Avoid speculation per "crystal ball" and be cautious with attribution. Who knows what might happen between now and then? GraemeLeggett (talk) 16:29, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Considering we know that Amy and Rory rejoin as companions in series 7 (per Moffat's exact wording in the original announcement of their departure I believe) and leave in episode 5, it would surely need a source to the contrary to warrant suggesting they are not in any episode in between. We were cautious last year because there was never any confirmation that they would still be present at the end of series 6. But, for instance, remember when Amy and Rory's presence in "The God Complex" was confirmed by an early preview clip with no cast confirmed for the previous episode(s)? As they were on-going companions at that point, the best interpretation of that information was to infer that they would be in the previous episode too. The same applies here; there's no reason to think they may not appear in any of episodes 1-4 at this stage. As for Jenna, she is directly announced as both a new series regular and a new companion. She first appears in episode 6, and so again there is no reason to suggest she may not be a companion then. If things change, then we can change them. That's what the edit button is for. U-Mos (talk) 14:54, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm not around much at the moment, but I'll just make one point in response to your post, U-MOS. You say that "there's no reason to think they may not appear in any of episodes 1-4 at this". Here's a copy of the current companion navbox:

In the last three episodes Amy and Rory has appeared as companion once and if we simply extend the current appearance pattern then surely Amy and Rory will appear in the 1st, 3rd and 5th episodes? I would say from recent experiance we have no reason to think they will appear in all the episodes. Again, on Jenna's character, I consider it possible that we would be introduced to a companion before they become a companion. This as happened before - looking back at Moffet's writting I see that Rory appeared in the 1st episode of series 5 and wasn't a regular companion until the 5th episode. Edgepedia (talk) 06:29, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Navbox return

It looks as though Finister2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has been busy (re)creating navboxes that have previously been removed by consensus. I am headed out the door for a doctors (that is "a" doctor not "the" Doctor) appointment so I don't have time to create links to our past discussions and TFDs and, of course, consensus can change but I wanted to make the members of the project aware of this. MarnetteD | Talk 15:55, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

When I went to inform the editor about this discussion I did find a link to this TFD Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2011 October 13#Template:Weeping Angel stories so I am adding this for your convenience. MarnetteD | Talk 16:01, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I have gone ahead and reverted all of Finister2's edits adding these templates, and have also deleted the templates. If there is a consensus to recreate them, the deletions can always be undone, but in most cases these were recreations (and even re-recreations) of templates that were deleted following TfD discussions. Finister2 has an established history of doing this, in addition to his/her habit of adding "main protagonist"/"main antagonist" to character descriptions. --Ckatz^chat_spy 16:47, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

And thank you for following up on this. I thought that the navboxes and that editor looked familiar. I appreciate that you took the time to take care of this. MarnetteD | Talk 22:05, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Reception for classic Who

Is there anyone who is interested in adding reception to Classic Who serials? I've found reviews here and here for starters. Unfortunately I haven't seen any of them myself (save An Unearthly Child and the first 2 episodes of The Daleks) so I'm quite unfamiliar with it. Glimmer721 ^talk 02:09, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Shada

I'm updating Shada and would like get help from any of the experts here. Please join me at Talk:Shada#Updating article. Thanks. 64.40.61.24 (talk) 15:11, 1 April 2012 (UTC)