User talk:Silvrous

Hi Silvrous,

Welcome to Wikipedia!!

Thanks for protecting The Picture of Dorian Gray against vandalism here, maintenance is a never ending job on Wikipedia.

If you're interested in working on other literature articles you could join Wikipedia:WikiProject Literature, otherwise here's some advice for beginners. If you have any questions you can just pop a note on my talk page.

Thanks again and I hope you enjoy editing as much as I do. Best wishes, --Ktlynch (talk) 11:53, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You still haven't answered my question so tell me is in a sane world 5.277.068 > 7,403,836 true or not ??I'm showing you a fact im just wondering if you have intelligence to see it.Veriteo (talk) 08:45, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

LOL Im asking you just a question answer it so that you might get those FACTS you were looking for.Veriteo (talk) 12:05, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to tea

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Please comment on Talk:Information technology

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You Have Been Nominated to be an Administrator

Go to Your page now to start!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keelan717 (talk • contribs) 15:09, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If this nomination and transclusion was made without your consent, and you do not want it, please let me know as soon as possible and consider leaving a comment on your RfA that you withdraw it so that it can be closed. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:54, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Your RfA

Don't worry; I closed it. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 16:57, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind; I got an edit conflict. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 16:59, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's been deleted and the user indefinitely blocked. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 18:25, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I beat him to the close and the delete nomination. Nothing else to worry about here. Mdann52 (talk) 15:29, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Stub tags

Please note that {{stub}} should go at the end of an article, after everything except inter-language links, not at the top as you did in Andrei Peteleu. See WP:ORDER. Thanks. PamD 16:38, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dana Shires

Hi Silvrous. Can you explain to me in a little greater detail how the citations of sources on the Dana Shires article could be improved? (I was careful to provide a source for each "chunk" of information I included in the article.) Thanks.--Vistawhite (talk) 04:21, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Canada Iran

That first line sounds silly without what I added. I'm going to put it back for now if that's ok. Don't see how it wasn't neutral by all means.--71.67.123.12 (talk) 08:15, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, the structure "to state the obvious" is condescending and does not adhere to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of view (WP:NPOV) policy. Silvrous ^Talk 08:16, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Why sources

Why did Wikipedia dosent accept unsourced material 99.229.41.79 (talk) 18:09, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia should only contain sourced material, in order to be a trustworthy source of information. Please see WP:V for a detailed explanation. Silvrous ^Talk 18:16, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

CIR

much better. Thanks. --76.106.149.108 (talk) 20:13, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Salai

I am not at all sure why you decided to delete a wad of information that had been added to that article.

NOTE: the added information contained some solid facts.

I notice that you have been nominated as an administrator. I would oppose that nomination on the following grounds.

You twice deleted a lengthy, newly added section, by a newbie, presumably without reading it to see what value it added.
You labelled an addition that contained factual material, and had been placed into the article in the correct sections, as vandalism!
The addition had several problems. If you are a sufficiently experienced editor to be an admin, then you must have enough experience to identify and correctly label the individual problems.
So what were the problems?

unreferenced. Then you should put in a tag.
some poor expression of a type which indicates clearly that English is not the person's first language. As an English Wikipedia admin, you ought to be able to correct a few errors of expression.
Speculation/POV/Original research e.g. "This might have been because....." Any statement that uses words like that needs a OR or POV warning (depending on the precise nature of the speculation).

This is the manner in which a good administrator would approach a section of added material by an inexperienced editor. An administrator's job is to facilitate editting.

Amandajm (talk) 02:39, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I do not have a lot of experience on anti-vandalism, and indeed made a mistake in this case. I am thankful that you saw the mistake and corrected everything. Before writing such a lengthy note, however, I would always check whether my thesis is actually correct. Your thesis, my being nominated for administrator, is actually quite incorrect, the "nomination" was done by a vandal some time ago. But thank you for the information. I will keep in mind what you said from now on. Silvrous ^Talk 06:28, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your message. I was unaware that vandals were now going around nominating people for things! Amandajm (talk) 07:01, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the CVUA

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Matt Cardle

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Motion Planning

Thank you Silvrous for bringing to attention lack of edit reason on the paper reference removal, that was my mistake. I am a writer of the paper that is about to be submitted to ICRA, this is my work that needs to be removed from wikipedia until after the submission. Lucidation (talk) 21:08, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

CVUA

Hello! Thank you for your interest in CVUA. I have been selected as your replacement instructor. I am happy to get started with you. I will email you my contact information so that we can communicate effectively. I am willing to use Instant Messaging, IRC, or talk pages, or whatever method you may prefer to keep in touch. I would first be interested to know what areas of instruction you would be most interested in. Another editor has raised the question that since you already appear to be experienced and effectively reverting vandalism, we might not have much left to teach you. So if you want to share what you already know and what you would like to get out of a course here, that would be great. See you soon. Elizium23 (talk) 02:59, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for taking me on! I do have some experience with Twinkle, I usually patrol the IP user recent changes. I've had problems identifying non-obvious vandalism. I'd like to start using STiki and perhaps Huggle to revert more easily, and also patrol registered users, which I haven't really tried. Silvrous ^Talk 09:15, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I have sent you email from my account, so you should have in hand my IM and other contact info. How do you prefer to communicate? I have found in the past that IM works best for intensive sessions. Elizium23 (talk) 05:14, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm all for IM, but I don't know if it would be feasible(I'm on GMT +2), so we might have to stick to talk page most of the time. I'll add you on Skype. Silvrous ^Talk 18:27, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll look for you on Skype. And you don't need to use {{Talkback}} for me, I have your talk page watchlisted and in WatchListBot, I am alerted as soon as the message goes in. Let's get down to brass tacks. I can help you with STiki, as I have used it and I still have the capability to use it on my computer. I have not used Huggle, and it is not supported natively by my operating system (Linux). If you are really interested in finding out about it, I could try and install it under the Wine environment, but truthfully, you may just be better off asking another instructor about it. Our chosen software is listed in the status page of CVUA. I can also tell you that I found it extremely useful to patrol "new editors' contributions", especially for conflict of interest issues. You can easily find vandalism here; the trick is not to conflict too much with all the other Recent Changes patrollers, who will have already seen the edits... but out of registered users, it is the more fruitful way to identify unconstructive edits. Now, as for identifying non-obvious vandalism, I can tell you that the most common form of non-obvious vandalism is the factual error. I help myself in this category by maintaining a large watchlist of articles within my chosen topics of interest, of which I am fairly knowledgeable. It is easier to spot the factual error if you know about your topic! Recent changes patrol won't be too much help here. Sometimes I find myself checking references and using Google Search and other resources to identify a factual error, and I do find that I learn more about the topic as I research it. Sometimes I am even able to add references where there was none before, or start a discussion about the inclusion of a fact. This is all recommended stuff if you want to be a constructive member of the Wikipedia community, but it is peripheral to my objective as a CVUA instructor. I can tell you that all vandalism has certain hallmarks that you can use to "score" in your head whether an edit looks suspicious. A red-linked username; no edit summary given; one fact turned into a contradiction; date changed in one place and not another. Not an exhaustive list, but some of the more common red flags I encounter on a daily basis. Another behavior that is non-obvious is copyright violation. It doesn't just happen to new articles. The number one thing to watch for is large blocks of text added in a single edit. Especially if it is un-wikified. Especially if the language sounds more promotional, or un-WP-like. Simply paste some of the text into Google Search and find an exact match. This requires immediate removal and a warning to the user. Copyright violations are not vandalism, but they do crop up often for me, so it bears mentioning. Other types of vandalism can occur on talk pages, for example, one user refactoring the comments of another. Changes in formatting and fixing links can be OK, but even spelling corrections can be disruptive and somewhat rude to the original writer. In my topics, I often find posts that fall under WP:NOTFORUM and are immediately removed, as they have no suggestion for improving the article. Not vandalism, usually done in good faith. It is less common to see the former behavior, but it can be hard to spot; sometimes users forget to log in and they are fixing their own comment, when it appears that an anonymous IP is changing an established editor's comment... requires a judgement call to tell what happened, sometimes you just revert and don't issue a warning. OK, that is my brain dump for the evening. I noticed you are already making reports to WP:AIV using Twinkle. Do you have any questions about AIV for me? I often report there, and I can tell you that I find it to be one of the more efficient notice boards, without much drama or backlog and administrators are responsive with blocks or page protection as necessary. Speaking of that, I see you have also used WP:RPP once; if you have any questions about that I would also be glad to answer. I most frequently use Twinkle for all these actions, if you are comfortable with it then I am too. OK, see you tomorrow. Elizium23 (talk) 06:47, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi

Hi Silvrous i've just added a tiny bit to John Barrowman about another book cuz him and his sister has. Hope that is ok. Smason177 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smason177 (talk • contribs) 11:35, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Verifying

There have been an announcement from different world's newspapers that Emeli Sande married in Montenegro, in September this year, and took the last name Radojevic, which is one of her husband's last names. Furthermore, that has been explained by Emeli as well in an interview after her Montenegro concert. 95.155.29.204 (talk) 14:57, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]