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SEPTA Regional Rail Bridge = PA Railroad Bridge???

An 1886 map has a railroad bridge at the site of the current SEPTA Regional Rail Bridge. The bridge has the label Penna RR Bridge. Though the original bridge led to a high level grade and the current rails descend to below ground, this might suggest a much older name than SEPTA et al. Map – Plate 1 of JL Smith's Philadelphia 1886 West, Wards 24 and 27 – is on-line at http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/83014/Plate+001/Philadelphia+1886+West+-+Wards+24+and+27/Pennsylvania/ Bridge is in lower-left corner. EdK (talk)

The Lovely Bones

Re this: I'm not entirely sure how that article comes under WP:PHILLY. The book is set primarily in the Philadelphia suburbs (that's why I added it to WP:PENN, with only one short passage where Susie alludes to being in the 30th Street Station, actually being in Philadelphia.

I don't know if the Philadelphia project's scope is broad enough to cover the city's suburbs, much less fictional narratives set in them. I wouldn't put novels set primarily in the New York City suburbs in WP:NYC (of course, there's also two other state projects (WP:CONN and WP:NJ) and two regional projects WP:HVNY and WP:WPLI) that would also cover such an article. There are articles on subjects whose geographic location is outside the city, such as the city's upstate reservoirs, but those have a very strong connection to the city (like, the city actually owns them). Daniel Case (talk) 17:53, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As a Philadelphia resident and a member of the Philadelphia and Pennsylvania WikiPedia projects, I can tell you that we have hundreds, if not thousands of articles shown as Philadelphia which are in the Pennsylvania and New Jersey suburbs. So far, the project members have taken an expansive view of the Philadelphia project scope, sometimes even broader than I would think wise, especially people from Cecil County, Maryland. Whether this book should be in the Philadelphia project, I added it, but I will ask on the project talk page, if you think it is doubtful. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:53, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not a problem, then, if it fits in the defined scope. Just thought I'd ask. Daniel Case (talk) 22:12, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Breaks on your user page

I noticed you have a lot of html breaks on your user page. One good alternative is to use {{break}} It has a parameter so you can do multiple line breaks like {{break|20}} Ryan Vesey Review me! 01:15, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good idea, good to implement tomorrow! --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:17, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delinking

Dthomsen8, I don't understand your rational for the removing wikilinks on Al Bagnoli, Andy Smith (coach), Steve Sebo. Can you explain? Thanks. Jweiss11 (talk) 01:09, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First, notice that these changes were made using AWB, an automated editor. AWB finds multiple instances of the same Wikilink in an article, and gives the editor running AWB the opportunity to delink one of the instances. That is what happened to the articles on three University of Pennsylvania coaches, along with other changes in some cases. Tonight I went back to those three articles and added the University of Pennsylvania WikiProject template to each article, and I changed the class of some of them. Sorry to be slow getting back to you. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:00, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Fong article

Hi, thanks for the suggestions in the 'wikify' template. I am not sure why you removed the 'rescue' template.Canticle (talk) 13:39, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rescue by the [[WP:ARS] is for articles being nominated for deletion, which is not the case with Adam Fong. The rescue template makes a catalog entry for articles to be rescued, so deleting the template removes the article from that category. I added Adam Fong and other people named Fong to the Fong disambiguation page. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:31, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the info. I am still slowly learning aspects of Wikipedia. Your help is appreciated.Canticle (talk) 08:49, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am still learning some aspects myself. I suggest to you Wikipedia – The Missing Manual and the associated help, which is an updated electronic version of the book. --DThomsen8 (talk) 11:59, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Croatia – Script, Question

Thanks for the dash fixes, every help is appreciated. I looked at the diff, and it seems like no links were broken in the process.

The article is supposed to be in British English – a BE tag is placed on the talk page to inform of this. Do you think this should be clarified in the WP:GOCE/REQ too? Cheers--Tomobe03 (talk) 23:59, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, my oversight in not looking at the talk page before posting the question on your talk page. Experienced copy editors will look at both pages before making changes, or at least that is my procedure when participating in copy edit drives, but I stick with American English articles most of the time. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:35, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Croatia

Hi! Thanks for the pointer, actually that's what was missing – especially since tourism is also a major contributor to Croatian GDP (at about 20%, but that's notoriously hard to gauge for tourism). I fixed that and added the main article template for Tourism in Croatia. Hope that works out fine.--Tomobe03 (talk) 00:16, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. Your feedback, especially the one on the tourism was really constructive and it genuinely helped improve the article.--Tomobe03 (talk) 16:48, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Foster Natural Gas/Oil Report

Thank you so much for your kind message. I wanted to write a private response to you but I am a new user and I don’t know how to do that. I am actively trying to create a page for a publication called Foster Natural Gas/Oil Report. It is a very well known and established publication in the natural/gas oil industry. If there are any changes which need to be made to the page please give me your advice and I will be more than happy to make the necessary changes. As I mentioned I am a new user. So I am still learning. However, I have encountered much hostility from someone called WikiDan61. He has tried on numerous occasions to delete the foster page. I beg you please save the Foster natural gas/oil report page. I know you are very busy. But please place your response on one of these discussions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/FOSTER_NATURAL_GAS/OIL_REPORT or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:ENERGY. I see that you are an experienced editor with lots of rewards. I am sure people will take your comments seriously. Plus you seem to be well educated in the natural gas/oil industry.Please help save a page which another user (who as he himself states knows nothing about) is trying to destroy. Or perhaps you can tell me which changes need to be done, I can make them, and you can approve the page and save it from deletion. I thank you in advance for your kind words and your help in this matter. § Katya_Foster

See my replies elsewhere. Please sign your contributions on talk pages. --DThomsen8 (talk) 19:33, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Student

Hi! I'm a student at Clemson University and have been editing the Kingstree, South Carolina page for my English class. I noticed that in the history you have edited the page. I went through your history and it looks like you edit Wikipedia a lot. I was wondering if you could give me some feedback on my recent edits?

Funkymonkey021993 (talk) 19:16, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can do that. I will look at Kingstree, South Carolina, and any other contributions you have made, perhaps not right away.--DThomsen8 (talk) 21:03, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If the population went down in 2009, then the population density would go down, too. Since the 2010 Census is done, wouldn't the 2010 population and density be available? --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:09, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Foster Natural Gas/Oil Report

Hello. Thank you so much for your messages and for trying to rescue the Foster page. However, since I have created the page, things on it have been changed. There is now much information which is incorrect. I would like to end this discussion and ask you to please delete this page once and for all. I am uncomfortable with how it looks and no longer wish to have a page on Wikipedia. I thank you for your understanding.--Katya Foster (talk) 19:02, 6 November 2011 (UTC)--Katya Foster (talk) 19:02, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors November 2011 backlog elimination drive update

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors November 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter.

Participation: We have had 46 people sign up for this drive so far, and 28 have copy edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't joined, it's not too late. Join us!

Progress report: We are making great progress in our goal of clearing out the oldest articles (April, May, and June 2010) from the queue. There are 122 articles left in those categories, which compares very favorably with the 281 that were present at the close of the September drive. We have reduced the 2010 backlog by 184 articles so far.

Coordinator elections: The term of our second tranche of coordinators will be running out at the end of the year, and we will be accepting nominations for new coordinators early in December. The election will likely run in the last two weeks of December. Please consider helping out by nominating yourself or someone else in the Guild as one of our coordinators. The commitment is for a six-month term. Thanks.

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Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 00:04, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Death Valley Driver Video Review

Hi Dthomsen8,

I haven't done AfDs in a very long time, but it looks to me like the AfD hasn't been closed yet (it's now on its 6th nomination). The tags don't get removed until after the AfD is closed.

Cheers,

Deathphoenix ʕ 14:22, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. I am not sure how I saw a page showing it closed, but with 5 previous AfDs, it is understandable. I am not even clear how I found your user name, for that matter. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:20, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE 2011 Year-End Report

Guild of Copy Editors 2011 Year-End Report

We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2011. Read all about these in the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report.

Highlights
  • Membership grows to 764 editors, an increase of 261
  • Report on coordinators' elections
  • Around 1,000 articles removed through six Backlog elimination drives
  • Guild Plans for 2012
  • Requests page report
  • Sign up for the January 2012 Backlog elimination drive!


Get your copy of the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report here
On behalf of the Guild, we take this opportunity to wish you Season's Greetings and Happy New Year. We look forward to your support in 2012!
– Your 2011 Coordinators: Diannaa (lead), The Utahraptor, and Slon02 and SMasters (emeritus).

Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 06:07, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

this is a test!!

I'm taking you up on practicing on contacting you!! I only just now saw YOUR reply to me at the bottom of my page; I suppose I didn't scroll down far enough before and did not even know there was a reply. At any rate, this is pretty cool. Sad that so few have ever responded to your welcome greeting, but don't get me started on the general demise of etiquette and good manners to which I've been witness in my lifetime!!

Be that as it may, what led me to this particular point tonight is that I am watching "Hotel Rwanda" and, of course, had to pull it up on Wikipedia to read about the movie. I noticed another error that is beyond my knowledge-base to figure out how to correct. If you go to the webpage and scroll down to "Cast", you will notice there is nothing there. Scroll almost to the bottom of the page and you will see the cast listed after the soundtrack. OK, now here is the weird part. I went into "edit" thinking that I'd just cut and paste the cast listing where it belonged, but in the edit section, the cast list appears where it SHOULD, under the heading of "Cast". Yep, I'm baffled and mystified. I checked it a few times, back and forth, just to make sure I wasn't seeing things, which has been known to happen............so, like I said, I don't know how to fix this AT ALL!!! Yet, I'm obviously nerdy enough to let it bother me to the point where I found your reply, and here we are.

Thank you again for your time and your "ear" out there. I unabashadly admit that this is my idea of fun! I've always loved language and enjoy proofing and editing, so finding that I can indulge myself on Wikipedia has been a blast!!

Thank you again!!

(Can we sign our first name or is that a no-no? I did as a matter of reflex but then deleted it and replaced it with this question. I don't know if that's allowed or not...)Johngalt288 (talk) 05:38, 4 January 2012 (UTC)johngalt2788[reply]

You are quite welcome! Take a look at the "toolbox" on the left of this page, and you will see that you can send me an email. You can set yourself up for emails if you like, just go to "preferences" at the top and look around at the choices there. Hotel Rwanda (with link) is the best way to mention an article. I will take a look later and maybe make a fix. If you enjoy copyediting, look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors. You should be fairly experienced before joining, but I think you would like the drives they (and I!) do. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:44, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I knew without looking it up who John Galt is. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:44, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Kemeys's "Lincoln"?

Not this one!

I wondering if you know this statue [1] I take "East River Road" to mean Kelly Drive - although there is a 2 block stretch still named East River Drive where the sculpture ain't. It also is not the Rogers sculpture of Lincoln just north of Philly Museum of Art.

I can't find any other reference to it - though the SIRIS database is supposed to be authoritative. Any help appreciated. BTW List of public art in Philadelphia is coming along. Smallbones (talk) 05:09, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have written to Jennifer Richards of the Fairmount Park Art Association about your question, and copied you on the email. They have an excellent database of public art throughout the city, not just in the parks, and she is likely to respond fairly soon. Jennifer has spoken to the civic association several times.
I see you are doing good work on the list of public art in Philadelphia. There are plenty more art works to be added, maybe in the thousands, so it will be a long time before it is done.--DThomsen8 (talk) 15:07, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Got the e-mail copy, but haven't heard from Jennifer yet. 200 before spring! Smallbones (talk) 02:24, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:USS Saugatuck (AO-75)

Why do you keep removing WPCT from the talk? Best, Markvs88 (talk) 02:00, 18 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks from M338

Hello, I am Japanese M338. I mainly write a tool-related article in Japanese edition Wikipedia. I thank for encouragement to me from DThomsen8. Because languages are different, I and you are hard to take the communication. However, as for the future thanking you in advance.--M338 (talk) 07:35, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to communicate with me at any time. --DThomsen8 (talk) 02:02, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I must have had the wrong idea

DT8:

I'm not sure why, but somehow I assumed you weren't going to the NYC meetup. IN any case, I'll be getting the 6:45 from 30th street to Trenton, and then switching sides of the platform to get the train from Trenton to NYC. Please join me if that fits your schedule. Smallbones (talk) 14:43, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I can do that. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:57, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GLAM/Delaware Art Museum

"including" near the top, 2 cases of double *'s, looks ok now? See similar list at Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery, maybe I can get numbers (from the museum) like they do? I'd include it now if the pix line up in the whole article ok. Otherwise I'd wait until I get more text up front. Thanks. Smallbones (talk) 15:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, looks better with your changes. If you ask the museum for numbers, see if you can get a picture for the final subsection. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:43, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Don't think modern section pic will be possible because of copyright restrictions Smallbones (talk) 15:34, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I agree that both the file and a permission from the museum would be required, but I know it can be done. Let me check, but I suspect some of these artists have WikiPedia or WikiMedia Commons images already. See Wikipedia:Volunteer Response Team for how the copyright permissions are handled. When could we go ahead with using my draft instead of the live article section?--DThomsen8 (talk) 15:42, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I expanded the article a bit and put in your new Collections section. Actually, the problem on copyrights is not so much the museum as it is the creators (who generally own the copyright). I think with paintings (other than those of John Sloan, which might have copyrights controlled by the museum) it will be impossible. But sculptures are a bit different - there are 2 at the museum that I can document the dates (have to be pre-1978) for sure (one early 20th century, one post WWII). I'd need to personally see that there is no visible copyright notice on them, and take the photo myself (2D rules don't apply). When I go down myself, I'll have to take 4 books back, so I might delay!. Smallbones (talk) 17:57, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. See Found (Rossetti) which got almost 20k page views over 2 days via DYK, The Flower Book (Edward Burne-Jones), which is up for a DYK, and I'm going to shoot for another Love's Messenger painting by Marie Spartali Stillman, if I can get it ready in time for Valentine's Day. Smallbones (talk) 17:57, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
While I think the new Collections section is much better, there is a contrary opinion from LoriLee (link will be added later).--DThomsen8 (talk) 21:20, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Beyond that, check out [[2]] , the German Wikipedia article on the Delaware Art Museum, which includes images and information not in the English article. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:20, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I got a note from LL - she is entitled to her opinion like anybody else. The German, after a double translation, could be a copyright violation. The extra pix I don't like. What extra info there would you include? Would you like to put in something about expositions - from their website? Smallbones (talk) 21:29, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Am writing some e-mails today. This book might be interesting: http://books.google.com/books?id=olkpWeH-5U4C Smallbones (talk) 16:15, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback

Hello, following a review of your contributions, I have enabled rollback on your account. Please take note of the following:

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. Reaper Eternal (talk) 17:07, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delinking cities?

Hi! I noticed here and here that you delinked the cities as a "typo". Is there a new consensus not to link cities? I may have missed it - but it seemed surprising to me that a wikilinked city is a "typo". Thanks StarM 00:15, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, not a typo, although I was mainly running WP:AWB to correct typographical errors and to make various other technical corrections to articles. In general, city names should only be linked once in an article. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking and especially the section on overlinking. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:46, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Also, notice that in both instances you cited, the city name is linked in the infobox. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:49, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
thanks, didn't realize linking in the infobox trumped the text since most of the info there is repeated anyway. Will be mindful going forward StarM 02:23, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Many articles have the link in both places, and some far more than that. The absurd links are the many links to USA following the city and state. --DThomsen8 (talk) 02:31, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Haven't seen that as much. My favorite was one museum article that had every instance of "museum" wikilinked. I'm pretty sure my head exploded even before someone edit warred with me to retain all of them StarM 05:21, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note that the guideline you cite specifically says that links may be repeated in infoboxes and captions. I find it annoying to have to go look in the infobox when a small town is not linked at its natural first occurrence, like Mayfield in Oliver Rice House. Hqb (talk) 12:18, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to ARS

Hi, Dthomsen8, welcome to the Article Rescue Squadron! We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying and rescuing articles and content that have been nominated for deletion. Every day hundreds of articles are deleted, many rightfully so. But many concern notable subjects and are poorly written, ergo fixable, and should not be deleted. We try to help these articles and content to quickly improve and address the concerns of why they are proposed for deletion. This covers a lot of ground and your help is appreciated!

If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you.

And once again — Welcome! Northamerica1000(talk) 03:00, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]



Article Rescue Squadron Newsletter

Volume I, Issue III
February 2012

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Content Rescue List?

(From my user page)

I would like to see the ARS list returned to the Article Rescue List name. Dealing with AfD, TfD and other deletion nominations is more than enough to keep ARS members busy, without getting into mergers and other content disputes, all of which can be worked on without ARS attention. I think this is an alligators/swamp situation. Draining the swamp is hard, fighting the alligators is a distraction. I am reluctant to roll back your change to "Content Rescue List" but I am considering it. I may have just added my name to the ARS participants list, but I have had the ARS user template on my user page for many months, and I participated in many AfD discussions. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:57, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Consider posting this on the talk page for ARS, so others, particularly ARS members, can consider this idea. Thanks for the input! Northamerica1000(talk) 14:00, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
See also: Wikipedia talk:Article Rescue Squadron/Rescue list#Regular deletion only? What about speed deletes, prods for deletion, or redirects?, where this matter is currently being discussed. Happy editing! Northamerica1000(talk) 14:04, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
See also: Wikipedia talk:Article Rescue Squadron/Rescue list#Posting to the ARS Rescue list (forgot to mention). Best, Northamerica1000(talk) 14:06, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am going to wait a while and see how the discussions in various places develop. Could we call it "Article Rescue List" and still discuss other issues? Probably not. I would like a focus on keeping articles with an AfD discussion, with occasional TfD or other deletion discussions. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:11, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the info! Just a note, nobody in ARS will be aware of your ideas unless you post your ideas to the discussion. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 14:15, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

PASpeakers

thank you for your question. the "•" delimiters are now deprecated in favour of using WP:HLIST. basically, by adding either '| listclass = hlist' or '| bodyclass = hlist' to a navbox, the '*' list syntax is formatted as a flat list by your browser (courtesy of some stuff in MediaWiki:common.css). This allows visually impaired users to read the navbox as a list, rather than having the screen reader read a bunch of 'dots'. there are scripts to assist with the conversion, which is what I was using when I converted that navigation box. in the future, you can add a new entry by just adding a new line starting with an asterisk. let me know if you have questions. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 15:51, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Articles reviewed by the Guild of Copy Editors

I have reviewed about half of the articles in this category, but have only been able to remove the tag from two articles, leaving 162 articles still with the tag. I had expected to find more articles improved to the point that copy-editing is possible, but that was not the case. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:29, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help spread the WikiLove

Happy Valentine's Day
All the best for one of Wikipedia's best!

(Feel free to send this to your other Valentines)
Smallbones (talk) 01:20, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Got messages

Did you get my 2nd e-mail from 2 days ago? Am checking for online out-of-copyright pix. Meetup a good idea, but should be designed to be successful for anywhere from 4 to 20 participants. Possible goals - GLAM Philly, Public Art, mini edit-a-thon since all those books will be around, maybe meet some Free Library folks and they can describe their archives, start GLAM Philly with them? They have a CD of photos of the 1876 exhibition (not online) - possibly upload those? Just ideas off the top of my head. Smallbones (talk) 14:41, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have your emails, and will reply today. Good thinking above. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:50, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
See Ellen Bernard Thompson Pyle - not bad, eh? Almost her whole known output is at http://www.ellenpyle.net/Artwork.html but in tiny 40k files (the 2 SEP covers in the article are 80k). Smallbones (talk) 15:44, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE March copy edit drive

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Maxfield Parrish

Thanks for catching my typo; I really shouldn't edit on my iPad late at night.

In Commons, Creator templates like Commons:Creator:Maxfield Parrish are used to populate the "author" parameter of Information templates or the artist parameter of Artwork templates. The Creator template contains biographical information about the artist and automatically collapses when used inside one of the other templates. The Creator template translates the information on nationality, occupation, and other values into multiple languages according to the reader's language preference. You can also add parameters like "school of", "after, "attributed to", etc. Full documentation here: Commons:Template:Creator.

If we're adding or cleaning up image collections in Commons as part of a GLAM project, then I like to see Information templates upgraded to Artwork templates which have fields for accession numbers, credit lines, and the like, and these should have Creator templates for represented artists, an Institution template for the Museum, and Size and Technique templates, all of which help make the content accessible in multiple languages.

Thanks for the link to the Tiffany panel; I had no idea about Steve Wynn wanting to move it to Las Vegas! - PKM (talk) 02:48, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the Creator template explanation. They seem like the right approach for artists with images of several works of art.
The Dream Garden fight was a more complicated story than you have there, but we Philadelphians didn't let him do it. Same thing, basically, with The Gross Clinic painting. --DThomsen8 (talk) 02:55, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

User:Smallbones/Chester County

I've put all info I have on FPAA there. The purpose is to sort it out, delete the stuff not needed immediately. Increase the FPAA article 5 times to over 2,100 characters with spaces so that it will qualify for DYK. Feel free to edit there - but remember the purpose is to edit, restate, and delete - we've still got good info on our home computers! Smallbones (talk) 14:38, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK. The Washington statue, I'm 99.9% sure, is just a mistake in the Smithsonian SOS (Save our Sculptures) database. Smallbones (talk) 15:05, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe, but then perhaps the FPAA has enough clout to get the database corrected. (Lincoln, or Washington?)--DThomsen8 (talk) 15:10, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Graffiti6

I see you removed the wikify tags. But you did nothing to clean it up. It's the still way it was before. It's on my list of things to do. So unless you are going to clean up the article so it complies with Wikipedia standards, the tags shouldn't have been removed. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 13:14, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The change was made using WP:AWB, and AWB made the choice to remove the Wikify tag, but I do not understand why. Also, I am not at all clear why I touched Graffiti6 at all. I am still learning about the Automated Wiki Browser (AWB), and will ask about this and many other details at Wikimania in July. Meanwhile, I am sorry that the mistake was made. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:56, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Banner tag

I just noticed that the edit you recently did to Talk:Shoha Parekh broke the Bannershell. Just wanted to let you know. --Kumioko (talk) 03:57, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have added thousands of template class and importance assessments, so I am sorry that in that instance I made a typographical mistake. --DThomsen8 (talk) 02:22, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It really wan't a big deal, I just wanted to let you know. NO need for the attitude although I do understand how you feel. I was doing tens of thousands of edits a month and people got pissed because I added a few articles to the scope of WPUS on accident (about 165 out of roughly 22,000). Just remember, this place has a little to no defect mentality so mistakes aren't tolerated for long. 71.163.243.232 (talk) 16:13, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Cleanup

Hello, Dthomsen8.

You are invited to join WikiProject Cleanup, a WikiProject and resource for Wikipedia cleanup listings, information and discussion.
To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000(talk) 00:11, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Recent assessments

Thank you for taking the time to clear out the lingering un-assessed articles for WP:UNI. However, you rated all four as start class, and I am wondering why you rate North Pacific College, Ford Hall (Willamette University), and Prewitt–Allen Archaeological Museum as start class? While certainly not GA (and obviously you can't assess it as such without the formal process), but I thought each was at least a C class, if not B class based on the UNI criteria. Start class is for fairly incomplete article, so what more needs to be added to get above Start? Thank you. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:40, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are right, these articles are at least class=C, and I have changed my too hasty assessments for all three articles. I leave it to others to decide if it should be higher classes. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:29, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reconsideration. Aboutmovies (talk) 05:19, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dumas method of molecular weight determination

I've added a link for "tare". I feel that wikilinking is adequate. If you feel that more is needed, please feel free to improve the article. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 22:44, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Labour Party (Poland)

Probably not, I'd merge it. Thanks! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:47, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd redirect it, simpler than merge, and preserves history. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:51, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE March drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive update
GOCE March 2012 Backlog Elimination progress graphs

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter.

Participation: We have had 58 people sign up for this drive so far, which compares favorably with our last drive, and 27 have copy-edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us!

Progress report: Our target of completing the 2010 articles has almost been reached, with only 56 remaining of the 194 we had at the start of the drive. The last ones are always the most difficult, so thank you if you are able to help copy-edit any of the remaining articles. We have reduced the total backlog by 163 articles so far.

Special thanks: Special thanks to Stfg, who has been going through the backlog and doing some preliminary vetting of the articles—removing copyright violations, doing initial clean-up, and nominating some for deletion. This work has helped make the drive a more pleasant experience for all our volunteers.

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Clear Books

Hello! You participated in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clear Books (2nd nomination), so you might want to participate in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clear Books (3rd nomination). --TimFouracre (talk) 06:10, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I would. Thank you for telling me. --DThomsen8 (talk) 17:44, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your review of 2011 Michigan vs. Notre Dame football game

Hello. I noticed that you recently reviewed my new 2011 Michigan vs. Notre Dame football game article! Tell me, what did you think of it? User:Davidfreesefan23 (talk) 22:16, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sawaal Majha Aika!

Hello!
Thanks for the review of the article. This is the fastest ever that any of my article has been reviewed :)
For the notability tag you added, i have posted my view at Talk:Sawaal Majha Aika!. Would you please respond there? -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 17:56, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on the talk page. --DThomsen8 (talk) 20:31, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for reviews

Thank you for your reviews of the articles Monika Schultz and Craig B. Cooper. I always appreciate it when the "new article" template can be removed from an article I created. Thanks again. Gildir (talk) 19:54, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. These two articles are nicely done. Do you have any others awaiting review?--DThomsen8 (talk) 20:30, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Once again, thank you for your reviews of Dominic Landucci and Karen Kohanowich. Nate Bender and James Talacek are still awaiting review. I really appreciate your reviews and the compliment on the articles. :-) Gildir (talk) 19:30, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Two more reviews completed. Several of these articles do not provide the date or place of birth. Perhaps your sources don't have that, but you should strive to have that information. Also, I added |s&a-work-group = yes to several BIO templates, and some of them should also have |military-work-group = yes. You should say American before Aquanaut, too. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:09, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Once again, thank you very much for your reviews. As you guessed, I was not able to find the dates and places of birth for the articles which lack that information (except for Mark Hulsbeck, in whose case I just realized that his place of birth should also appear in the infobox and persondata sections -- I'll add it after finishing this note). About the word "American", do you mean it should appear before "aquanaut" in the article leads, in the persondata sections, or in the category sections (which would require creating an "American aquanauts" subcategory, something I have considered doing for a while)? Thanks again. :-) Gildir (talk) 17:22, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Put "American aquanaut" instead of just aquanaut in the PERSONDATA description field. I have updated the talk pages with appropriate templates, but you can enter them yourself. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:31, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the advice. I have now put "American" in the appropriate places. (I will reply to your message on my talk page there.) :-) Gildir (talk) 19:53, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for keeping an eye on Sexual selection Trashbird1240 (talk) 14:11, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your "new article review" of Naval, Shipping and Fisheries Exhibition. It hasn't been the easiest article to start, and I appreciate the very prompt review. Icarusgeek (talk) 06:41, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AWB edits that do not make any difference

I do not use AWB so I have a question that you might be able to answer: In edits like this, trivial ones in which there is no visible change to the article as seen by the reader, does AWB allow for the user to see ahead of time that the proposed fixes are trivial and invisible, and allow the user to cancel the process and leave the article unchanged? Just curious... Binksternet (talk) 17:11, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AWB users can see the changes in the text, often in two windows at the top of the screen. You are quite right, sometimes the changes are invisible unless the text revealed by the edit, or even when the history is consulted. The example you cite is like that. The AWB user can skip the update, or do a save, if the browser has stopped. When AWB sees two or more edits for the same Wikilink, the editor can decide to delete one of them, and that change is difficult for a reader to spot. Of course, sometimes spelling errors and repetitions of words are corrected ("the the" becomes "the"), and there are frequent changes in templates, too. --DThomsen8 (talk) 17:40, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks for the explanation. Binksternet (talk) 18:45, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE word counts

Hi. I'm just checking through the drive page and found that your word counts add up to a different number than you've stated for the total. But (fascinated with a 5-word count) I took a look at Flag Day (disambiguation) and realised you only counted what DrPDA would have spotted. The list would have added another 249 to that count. So I don't want to do a "correction" that is wrong. What's the right thing here? --Stfg (talk) 10:02, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The right thing is to add up what I have entered: 151 + 25 + 11 + 607 + 5 + 385 + 20 + 620 + 333 + 303 + 836 + 76 + 591 = 3,963, and then add 2123 rollover, making 6086. The numbers I have entered are those that "Page size" in the menu provide. Lists and disambiguation pages are mostly entries with *, which are not counted by "Page size" in the word count. You are right, my total was wrong, but I am content with the 5, and 11, and 20, and 25 counts. I have corrected my total. Please explain to me how you make the page of 5 have a count of 249, but I don't care if I am a bit low on my total. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:44, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much. I made it 254 (249 extra) by copying into a word processor and using its word count. I do that (several of us do), not for raw lists of names and suchlike that don't require copy editing, but for lists of prose entries that do, like the one in that page. The entry in the total-words field should be just the total for articles; we add in the rollover before giving out the barnstars. This is needed for the large counts because leaderboard entries only consider words done in the current drive, and for consistency otherwise. I'll make that change now. Your barnstar and rollover to May are calculated from the 6086 figure, of course. Regards, --Stfg (talk) 13:06, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I did not know that the total was before the rollover number was added, even though I have participated in several earlier drives. Well, if you are going to increase the Flag Day count, would List of alternate history fiction be increased way beyond 11? What about 25 words for List of local governments in the United Kingdom?--DThomsen8 (talk) 13:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you were an well-known member of GOCE before I ever arrived. I think I'd have done the same as you did in both those cases. There's a lot of prose in List of alternate history fiction, possibly over 7000 words, but as there was only the one typo I think you did the respectable thing there. In List of local governments in the United Kingdom there's not much prose. You did what the article needed, and I certainly wouldn't nickel-and-dime you if you felt a bit more credit was due, but once again I think I'd have done the same. What definitely has to be said is THANK YOU for being willing to look at such articles even though the amount of credit you were expecting for them was so small. I'm going to go and change the count for Flag Day (disambiguation) now, but will leave the other two to your discretion. Best regards, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 16:07, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We agree entirely, Simon. I only asked because I like to understand how any process works, and not because I want any more credit. There is a small ulterior motive to doing lists and other very short articles, it can boost the number of articles done, and improve the overall statistics. This month I was not quick enough to get on the leader board by the number of articles, let alone word count, but some drives I have a list of targets organized for the first few days, and go flying into it, only to slow down later. I was also looking over a long article, but I finally decided it was too hard for this month. I do some things for every article I do copy editing on that is not strictly required, especially I make sure the talk page has the appropriate templates, and if it has comments without a heading, I put in a ==Comment== section head. I also try to fix orphan status, too. Now April is here, I have a month off from copy editing, but I do other systematic work, trying to get all Delaware articles to have templates, and trying to get the Category:All unreviewed new articles number down carefully, adding tags for deficiencies that I don't correct and talk page templates. Maybe you might like to do a few of those? --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:15, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Dthomsen8

I just wanna thank you for your nice message on my talk page. I always try to make a good work and as less mistakes as possible, but it doesn't work all the time, you know? ;)

The German language is one of the toughest and most difficult languages in the whole world (expect Chinese or Japanese), so I think it's just very cool that you learned it at least little bit.

If I have any questions (and you can trust me, I WILL have some questions one time) I'll ask YOU of course. Also, if you have any questions, for example German questions or something, you can also ask me of course.

I hope, that you know what I mean with my message, because my English is not the best one. I started to learn English I guess 6 years ago or something. Honeyking (talk) 21:59, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE March drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive
GOCE March 2012 Backlog Elimination progress graph

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! This is the most successful drive we have had for quite a while. Here is your end-of-drive wrap-up newsletter.

Participation

Of the 70 people who signed up for this drive, 40 copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Special acknowledgement goes out to Lfstevens, who did over 200 articles, most of them in the last third of the drive, and topped all three leaderboard categories. You're a superstar! Stfg and others have been pre-checking the articles for quality and conformance to Wikipedia guidelines; some have been nominated for deletion or had some preliminary clean-up done to help make the copy-edit process more fun and appealing. Thanks to all who helped get those nasty last few articles out of the target months.

Progress report

During this drive we were successful in eliminating our target months—October, November, and December 2010—from the queue, and have now eliminated all the 2010 articles from our list. We were able to complete 500 articles this month! End-of-drive results and barnstar information can be found here.

When working on the backlog, please keep in mind that there are options other than copy-editing available; some articles may be candidates for deletion, or may not be suitable for copy-editing at this time for other reasons. The {{GOCEreviewed}} tag can be placed on any article you find to be totally uneditable, and you can nominate for deletion any that you discover to be copyright violations or completely unintelligible. If you need help deciding what to do, please contact any of the coordinators.

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New film articles review

Hello! Thanks for reviewing new film articles made recently. But i have a doubt. Same that we had discussed on Talk:Sawaal Majha Aika!. I plan to make articles for all films that won National Film Awards starting with the category National Film Award for Best Feature Film in Marathi and then moving to other categories. All these films, old or new, being winners of this prestigious award meet the Wikipedia:Notability (films) criteria. But you have added a General Notability tag on all these pages. Hence though of asking you what more do you expect in the articles? I refer to recent pages of Nirop and Gandha. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 10:54, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please look at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(films)#Notability_of_Indian_language_films for my reply. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:38, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay! Will follow up that thread. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 22:58, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Although belatedly, a welcome is always nice, so thank you very much. I'm an Italian contributor, and I work mainly on it.wikipedia giving just little contributions to the other languages' wiki. However, thank you again for your kindness and good job on Wiki (I hope I wrote well, if I didn't wrote well forgive me :D)--GiaKa (talk) 11:11, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I welcome many people, and I am happy to sometimes have a reply. If you need any help here, let me know. Your English is fine, and you do make some good contributions here. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:10, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect;). If I need, I will take advantage of your help. Thank you for all again.--GiaKa (talk) 15:00, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

USRD by-state importances

Please don't change the by-state importances, as you did here. WP:NYSR uses its own set of importance criteria (defined here), and the by-state importance parameter is what allows New York to have a different importance rating than the national project. – TMF (talk) 21:53, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE May copy edit drive

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors

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Song assessments

Just seen 3 of your recent assessments for songs which you have assessed as start class. Perhaps you would like to re-assess? The 3 are Geordy Black - No references, Only the Horses Nothing whatsoever about the song and Ibiza Sunset (Charlotte B song) - None of the "references" are links, a hoax and marked as AfD before you assessed. I think you you are being a little overgenerous. Would actually like to see some non-primary source references, something about the actual song or at least something under "critical review" before a start class can be considered. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 13:50, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So.

Why did you simply remove my request for an explanation with not giving any? Also, edit summaries - you certainly know how to use them; please do so. They help others to know what you are doing. LadyofShalott 16:13, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:GLAM/Philadelphia Museum of Art

They've requested some help, so I started the project page and signed you up. Of course feel free to remove yourself if you'd like. Smallbones (talk) 17:10, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just tell me how I can help. I have not been able to find enough information about their two big donors to do an article. Maybe they can help with that. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:39, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Think "Philly," like Philly Cheese Steak - this is about the Philadelphia Museum of Art. Some suggestions: set up articles, importance, and ratings, as well as the table like you did at DAM. Maybe check the articles of the adjacent areas Eaton Oval, Franklin Parkway, Waterworks, etc. for anything obviously missing or messed up. And, of course, put on your art critic's cap - i.e. quote the heck out of some art books. Can we get rid of Rocky and his steps? Smallbones (talk) 00:50, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Rocky and the steps are forever connected with the Art Museum, and should be part of the article. I have a whole book on the steps, with photos of visitors from all over the world who came to see the statue and run or walk up the steps. I have too much going on to do much on the PMA before summer. Leave me signed up, but don't expect much. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:23, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New CfD

Since you participated in earlier CfDs about related categories, I want to make sure you know about Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 May 12#Category:Church buildings in the United States by state. --Orlady (talk) 22:57, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of amphibious assault operations

I've nothing else to contribute. Sad to see that 7 years later the article has still not been updated :-( If I can be of further assistance let me know. --PBS (talk) 10:00, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE May mid-drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter

Participation: Out of 49 people signed up for this drive so far, 26 have copy-edited at least one article. It's a smaller group than last drive, but we're making good progress. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Template:J

Progress report: We're on track to meet our targets for the drive, largely due to the efforts of Lfstevens and the others on the leaderboard. Thanks to all. We have reduced our target group of articles—January, February, and March 2011—by over half, and it looks like we will achieve that goal. Good progress is being made on the overall backlog as well, with over 500 articles copy-edited during the drive so far. The total backlog currently sits at around 3200 articles.

Hall of Fame: GOCE coordinator Diannaa was awarded a spot in the GOCE Hall of Fame this month! She has copy-edited over 1567 articles during these drives, and surpassed the 1,000,000-word mark on May 5. On to the second million! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa and Stfg

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Thanks from MonmouthpediA

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Category:Monmouth, Wales

As you requested, I wish to let you know that a full nomination (see here) was initiated to rename Category:Monmouth, Wales. Best, -- Black Falcon (talk) 06:09, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]


See here

Gettysburg National Museum. certainly related. 20:55, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Great American Wiknic for Philly in June

Howdy! I would like to invite you to help organize the Great American Wiknic this June (maybe update Wikipedia:WikiProject Philadelphia/Wiknic for this year?) :) Also, please add any preliminary details to Wikipedia:Wiknic#2012 Wiknic.--Pharos (talk) 17:05, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DT - If you want to organize it, it's fine with me. Smallbones (talk) 15:22, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Saw your note on Smallbones' talk page; he's actually away from the computer for a week or so, and unlikely to be able to reply soon. I suggest that you just BE BOLD and repeat the location from last year, I think that will work out fine.--Pharos (talk) 00:36, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Please pick the time and location ASAP. This is very fast approaching!--Pharos (talk) 01:31, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Considering the interest at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Philadelphia/Wiknic#Great American Wiknic for Philly in June 2012 and also the relative lateness of confirming everything, I suggest that you set it up instead for next week, June 30, at Azalea Garden.--Pharos (talk) 19:30, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar for May 2012 GOCE drive

The Modest Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to Dthomsen8 for copy editing 4 articles and achieving a total of 5598 words during the Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thank you for your contribution. --Stfg (talk) 08:36, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE May drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

Participation: Out of 54 people who signed up this drive, 32 copy-edited at least one article. Last drive's superstar, Lfstevens, again stood out, topping the leader board in all three categories and copy-editing over 700 articles. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We were once again successful in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog—while removing 1166 articles from the queue, the second-most in our history. The total backlog currently sits at around 2600 articles, down from 8323 when we started out just over two years ago.

Coodinator election: The six-month term for our third tranche of Guild coordinators will be expiring at the end of June. We will be accepting nominations for the fourth tranche of coordinators, who will also serve a six-month term. Nominations will open starting on June 5. For complete information, please have a look at the election page. – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa, and Stfg

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Merge banner

Thanks for all your assistance. I know that I'm on auto patrolled now. I have a quick question for you. In April, when I was still a newbie, I wrote a short article on The Indian Bean Tree, St James Square, Monmouth, one of my first for MonmouthpediA. At the time, I didn't know much about accessing information about Monmouth, Wales, so I had relatively few sources. In May, a merge banner popped up on that article and my St James Square, Monmouth article, suggesting that the tree article be merged into the square article. However, with two more months of Wikipedia under my belt, I thought that I could do the tree article justice. So, the past couple of days I've completely rewritten and expanded the article and added some great sources. The article is fairly comprehensive. I've removed the merge banner. However, if that is considered rude or presumptuous, I just need to have someone let me know. Thanks. Anne (talk) 06:11, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are fine in this situation. Look at Talk:St James Square, Monmouth where the merge discussion took place, and you participated in that discussion. Two other editors participated, and also participated in the Bean Tree article, so they have supported your work on the article. You could look into borrowing the book mentioned on Talk:St James Square, Monmouth through your public library or inter-library loan. Thank you for consulting me, feel free to do so anytime. Now that you are on auto patrol, I won't get to see your new articles in the catalog, but I will take a look at your contributions. Incidentally, did you see my email? I made a low-key suggestion there. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:41, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive

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My Articles "Issues"

Thanks for welcoming me. My new page [N. Cruz] was labeled as having "issues" which I think I have rectified. How do I go about getting the article reviewed and the issues box removed? Avilalinn (talk) 05:44, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I looked over the article again, and I removed two of the tags as being rectified. There is still a question of notability in my mind, but I know little about community based learning. If you look at the toolbox, the first choice is "What links here" and for this article, nothing of significance, making this article an "orphan" in Wikipedia jargon. The notability and orphan tags remain on the article. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:46, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nadinne I. Cruz

As you suggested, I gave the article some attention; also see article talk page. I don't think the article is completely out of the woods -- I did nothing to further the notability issue -- but it's been wikified, which is a start at article retention. I also left a comment on User:Avilalinn's talkpage, which may interest you. Be glad to work with you on other articles! Cheers, --Rosiestep (talk) 23:11, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Curtis Moss

I've gone ahead and restored the unaddressed maintenance tags on the above referenced article. In particular, the article requires copy editing for spelling and wikification for consistency in formatting. Generally, I would go ahead and make the edits myself, but with the initial editor creating numerous articles from a template with typos and formatting that is not in compliance with the Manual of Style for biographies, I'm a bit spent. Feel free to contact me if you have questions. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 22:36, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did not see in this article what you have seen, nor did I know that this is part of a process of creating numerous articles. If there are more articles than this one, then there could be a notice placed on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/July 2012 about the situation. --DThomsen8 (talk) 22:42, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Richmond Fire Department

Hi, you may want to take another look at Richmond Fire Department as I have began rescuing it and now it has independent sources including some unambiguous in depth coverage of one of the many environmental catastrophes that occur in Richmond and that this department in particular is notorious for dealing with. I have found more sources and will be adding them, thanks for giving it a second look and if you have any input or could help expand, copyedit, or trim the article in any way please be my guest. Thank you. -Troy.LuciferWildCat (talk) 02:38, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Restored copy edit tag

Hello Dthomsen8. I've restored the {{copyedit}} tag to John Hastings (cricketer) since it has a clear need for a copy edit. In it there is "A tall all-rounder who combines right-arm fast-medium bowling with strong lower-order batting.", which is not a sentence. A little later: "Hastings impressed with the ball in his first one-day games for Victoria and grabbed three wickets in six deliveries on debut in 2007–08 when he was asked to bowl at the death against Queensland." To dismantle it:

Hastings impressed with the ball [journalistic cliché]
in his first one-day games for Victoria and grabbed [slang]
three wickets in six deliveries on debut [should be "on his debut"]
in 2007–08 [comma missing]
when he was asked to bowl at the death [what on earth does that mean?]
against Queensland.

That needed to become something like "Hastings bowled well in his first one-day games for Victoria, taking three wickets in six deliveries on his debut in 2007–08, when he was asked to bowl at the death[clarification needed] against Queensland."

Please remember what Dianna often points out, that we may be the only competent writers to visit an article for a very long time, and take care not to decline needed copy edits. Thanks. --Stfg (talk) 19:50, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

Hi Dthomsen8, we just spoke about image uploading and Wikimedia Commons in the dining room at the pre-Wikimania hackathon. I just wanted to leave a quick note here so we've got each other's contact information. Cheers, Emw (talk) 14:10, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

About Taratarini Temple

Hi Dthomsen8, thanks for your work on Taratarini Temple. I found that you removed the inter language link, categories, templates from the article. I think it is unintentional. Please let me know if your work is over, I will fix the page. Thanking you. --Mrutyunjaya Kar (talk) 04:04, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)It was actually User:Lexah06 who did that. I have put a note on their talk page asking them to return and fix it. --Stfg (talk) 09:12, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Stfg (talk), for attending to that matter. --DThomsen8 (talk) 11:00, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help Please

I'm sorry, I just realized that I left you a message without a heading, so I'm repeating here. I apologize if there's any redundancy -- With regard to the article I wrote, New York College of Health Professions," I do take your comments seriously and constructively. As a relatively new editor, I also appreciate your help in offering suggestions to make the article non-promotional and well referenced. Please note that new references have been added where citations were requested. Revisions to several sentences have also bee edited to make them less promotional. I can not find any other sentences without substantiation, that could be considered promotional. If you still feel the article is too promotional, would you please be kind enough to provide some specifics? Please note that since this college is institutionally accredited, all claims made by the college in their catalogue, website or other literature are continuously monitored and approved by the accrediting agency, I.E. the New York State Board of Regents and the Commissioner of Education. No unsubstantiated claims have been made here.

In summary and in good faith, I am trying to do everything possible to comply with Wikipedia rules, regulations and guidelines. The current revisions should, hopefully satisfy your concerns. If not, please provide some specifics that I can address. Otherwise, These notices on the top of the article reflect unfairly on the schools well established and substantiated credibility. Please remove them as quickly as possible as they've been up for over two months. Thank you for your help, concern and consideration. Dkolarek (talk) 14:35, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I took some tags off, but added one for more references, since other editors have left citation needed tags on the article. --DThomsen8 (talk) 19:30, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Updated settings file

Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Settings/image requested people. This is set up for Texas, I reviewed a bunch of talk pages it looked OK. Rich Farmbrough, 18:25, 14 July 2012 (UTC).[reply]

GOCE July 2012 mid-drive newsletter

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T G Purvis

Thanks for your comments. I've put a reply on my talk page, and would welcome further help.

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Template etherpad

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GOCE July drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors July 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

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Autopatrolling nomination

Hello, I'm the creator of The Secret River (Rawlings book) that you reviewed and rated last night. I'm glad you like the article. My goal is to have a quality article about every Newbery book and author -- but I doubt I'll live that long. :) Anyway, I'm flattered by your offer to nominate me for autopatrolled status, but I went to the page and it suggests the editor have 50 new articles and be experienced. I've only been active since March, and I just have 10 new articles so far. So I doubt I qualify. But I do appreciate your kind words. Tlqk56 (talk) 16:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was overly hasty in suggesting autopatrolled status, as I learn from reading some of the pages you have greatly improved by adding content, but have neglected some wikifying tasks on them. I will leave some hints on your talk page. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:39, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks :)

Hi Dthomsen8!

I just wanted to say thank you for reviewing my article on Richard Hart so thoroughly. Your edits encouraged me to pre-order a book that's coming out on Hart in September so I can make the new sections you added more substantial!

All best,

Loriski (talk) 08:48, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Review

Hi Dthomsen8, Thank you for reviewing my article, Trimeric Autotransporter Adhesins (TAA). If you have any advice on how it can improve I would be really grateful. Kfh123 (talk) 10:02, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nice meeting you at wikimania

Hi there, I finally wrote this blog post about you. Hope you like it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lansey (talk • contribs) 17:44, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Brick factory

The "prod" tag was removed without explanation. Which shouldn't be done (it can be removed, but you have to explain). I've escalated to AFD. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:00, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of modern conveniences

With regard to this revert [3], it's my understanding that anyone may remove a PROD template, even the article creator. I believe the appropriate response here would be to send the article to AFD. causa sui (talk) 01:18, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, do you need any help with this? causa sui (talk) 15:25, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bugs

Hey; can you explain how/what happened with this? I'm thinking it was subst'd improperly by the software and so section editing led to the template page, but I'm trying to work out where and how so we can fix it :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 18:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there is definitely a bug. I tried to use the new menu for a new article review (Queen's Theatre, Adelaide), but it did not work, and it did not record a contribution, so I did it again without the new software. It did show me the template, but I left that without any action. Sorry I don't have more evidence for you. Perhaps I can try doing it again, but other than screen captures, I don't know what I could tell you about what happens with another try. --DThomsen8 (talk) 19:30, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE July 2012 drive barnstars!

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A cup of coffee for you!

Thank you - not for the first time for new article reviewing so quickly (Exposition Internationale de l'Est de la France).

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Thank-you

You recently left a helpful comment on my Talk page regarding an article I recently wrote, Chetwynd Secondary School. You suggested that I adjust items on a new article's Talk page. I just uploaded a new article yet cannot find its talk page. Does it take time for it to be created or am I looking in the wrong place? Thanks! Architectsea (talk) 03:56, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See my reply on your talk page. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:56, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your great idea :)

What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
For getting the ball rolling to improve photographic coverage of Guyana Loriski (talk) 17:03, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. have replied to your message on my talkpage :)

I'd say you're already a member...

This user is a participant in
WikiProject Guyana.

- Hon. member ;)

p.s. will reply on my talk page Loriski (talk) 17:17, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A(nother) Barnstar for you

The WikiProject Barnstar
For all your hard work in getting WikiProject Guyana going again. Thank you! Lorelei (talk) 14:48, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free rationale for File:Public Record leader.png

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UPenn

I used AWB to gather a list of articles missing the WikiProject University of Pennsylvania tag from Category:University of Pennsylvania and it's subcats. The list includes alumni of UPenn. Should they get the tag, or should I filter them out of the list. Once I'm done, I'll put in a bot request to tag all of the articles if there are a lot. Ryan Vesey 15:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to move this to the WikiProject page if you think it should be there. Ryan Vesey 15:15, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Good work! Go ahead and tag them all. I see your good work elsewhere, too. Penn may have more entries than Penn State or Pitt when you are done. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:19, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'll quick notify the other members to see if there's any opposition and put in the bot request within the next few days. There are 2381 pages I'd tag. I'll post the list in a sandbox. It's amazing some of the things that we missed (like The Daily Pennsylvanian). It's been a long time since I've done any work on those articles (and will still be a long time outside of the tagging. I've currently got a list of 9,000 some Olympics articles that need to be checked and/or improved to include results. Plus I'm working on a couple of ship articles. Ryan Vesey 15:23, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Go for it! I don't expect any opposition, but it is wise to be cautious. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:27, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There were some duplicates that I removed. See User:Ryan Vesey/University of Pennsylvania for the full list. Ryan Vesey 15:28, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I just thought I'd let you know that I started a BRFA at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Ryan Vesey Bot 3. Ryan Vesey 00:00, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Guyana Sources...

Hiya! Mike Christie has very kindly given us a list of online sources, and a list of books he has that WikiProject GY members could contact him about if they would like him to look something up in them (see my talkpage for more info)... I have added them to the sources list you made on the talkpage. It made me realise too that I should make a similar list of books I have available, so I will do this in the next day or two. As we've got a decent list of sources now, I wondered if we should perhaps add these to the main page of the project so they're more easily visible and accessible? Lorelei (talk) 01:12, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a go at doing something about this... I've drafted a WikiProject Guyana/Projects and Resources Page here. If you have the time, perhaps you could look it over quickly, and see if you think it's okay? If so, I'll move it into Wikipedia and then add a link from the main project page... Lorelei (talk) 13:49, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We did parallel work without knowing what the other was doing. Please see the Guyana project page for the addition I made, based on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Pennsylvania#Divisions section. This uses two templates found in many project pages, so it is important to do things a standard way. What you have is much longer, but much of it can be inserted into what I created. Take a look. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:33, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, this is great - thank you :) Is there a standard place/form for including a 'sources' section? I saw the Pennsylvania project had an image sources section at the bottom of the page; would it work okay to do the same with our list of sources? Lorelei (talk) 21:58, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I will work on the project page on Thursday, integrating what you have created with the framework I borrowed from the Pennsylvania project. I am not sure where to put the sources, perhaps on a secondary page attached to the project page. However, we must remember WP:BB is a Wikipedia principle. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:29, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That would be wonderful - thank you :) I noticed that WikiProject African Diaspora has a similar list of sources, which they put at the bottom of the page ... Lorelei (talk) 09:32, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've only just noticed...

The Premium Reviewer Barnstar
For your incredible work in getting the number of Unassessed Guyana Articles down to 0 (amazing!) and for all this reviewing work that you've been doing over the last few days. Thank you! Lorelei (talk) 13:42, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Dthomsen8, a Wiki-knowledgable friend recommended contacting editors who had contributed to art collective or art-related pages on Wikipedia in the past to ask for help with my problem. I see from your history that includes you. I'm trying to create a page for the Good/Bad Art Collective which existed in Denton, Texas from 1993-2001, see my efforts here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Good/Bad_Art_Collective It keeps getting rejected. Originally I thought it was too long (at first I listed the collective's major works, and member's names) but then it just seem to boil down to not having "cited sources related to the collective itself" But I don't understand how articles by art reviewers in The Dallas Observer newspaper, The Houston Chronicle and The Village Voice are related to the collective… they are reviews of their work. The collective existed for 8 years, had over 200 members and created 150 works and instillations. And, several ex-members have gone onto become famous artists. Plus, I have no relation to Good/Bad and am not or ever was a member. My friend (who used to edit on Wikipedia a lot, mainly the Judy Garland page, but hasn't in a year) suggested contacting someone with a bit more knowledge about art scenes. Looking at the history he thinks it's being rejected by people sticking too-close to Wikipedia rules and current issues, and can't see its relevance beyond that. Just a hunch? I see many other art collectives, even some who existed just a few years ago, have Wikipedia entries that have done far less than Good/Bad ever did. Do you mind taking a look and seeing what you think? Any suggestion you may have would be GREATLY appreciated. This is my first article for Wikipedia, and I'm determined to make it work because I know it's relevant. It was originally much more detailed. Thank for your time! MarkAllen5 (talk) 02:00, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at the article, added links and emphasis to the title, all standard features of an article like this, but I doubt that such changes will make any difference to reviewers. My initial reaction to your request for suggestions is that you should be gaining experience editing existing articles on Wikipedia, perhaps in the field of art, or about Texas, but learning about how Wikipedia works, before doing the more difficult task of creating a new article. Beyond that, let me sleep on it, and I will comment further tomorrow. Oh, while I have contributed to articles about the Delaware Art Museum and some other art-related articles, I am far from being expert on the subject of art, compared with some other fields, especially technical ones. Perhaps I can find someone else to help you further. --DThomsen8 (talk) 02:32, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! All good food for thought. I'll take you suggestions. And thanks for the additions. If you do think of anyone to send my way please do... and if you've thought of more after sleeping on it, please share. I've been looking into doing more editing and probably will...within similar subject matters. MarkAllen5 (talk) 03:35, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep on learning. I do. Indent your replies. --DThomsen8 (talk) 03:37, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Guyana Census

Hiya!

All the information about Official Censuses in Guyana I am taking from the (Gov. of Guyana) Bureau of Statistics Records for the 2002 Official Census. (I tried to track it down after seeing the population listings on the administrative regions which said they were from an official census but had no reference). Chapter 3 has all the information about the population for the administrative regions according to official censuses in 1980, 1991 and 2002 (p. 51). According to their website, the 2012 census has not yet been completed - and judging by the last one (2002, published in 2007) it may be sometime after that before the results are published. Following your tips about WebCite and archiving, I am trying to archive these documents to make sure they're there for future reference. Lorelei (talk) 16:09, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So you are telling me that there are population numbers for administrative regions, but not for particular cities or towns? --DThomsen8 (talk) 16:14, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've had a quick scan of all the documents and can't find any listings of town/village populations... Lorelei (talk) 17:40, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
However, there are a few listings for major towns here though I can't tell how reliable this source is... Lorelei (talk) 17:43, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Actually Dthomsen8, the information is all there at the Bureau of Stats website (address given above). Down towards the bottom of the page, they give links to records made up at town-level and village-level (as well as NDC-level i.e. regional). I've just downloaded and opened these, and the 'Gender' section of both sets of documents also gives a 'total' listing for each town and village :) Lorelei (talk) 18:24, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
So, develop a standard archived source for population of towns as an inline citation, and be ready to use it on any particular town now without that information. Same thing for administrative districts. Many places are stubs, but with three inline citations, could become start level articles. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Great! One problem I am having is that I can't figure out how I would be able to archive these sources, as I can't produce an url for specific documents (as they're all links to zip/compressed downloads) but only to the Bureau of Statistics website... Is there any way around this? I noticed that whoever created the Regions of Guyana article had managed to open one of the documents as a web-page with an address (and I used this to create the link in all the other articles), but my computer automatically 'opens' these as PDF downloads, and therefore without an url. Do you know of any way around this? Lorelei (talk) 18:46, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do I know of a way around this? No, but I will look into it. Please provide the URL and anything else that might help, right here with leading * for formatting. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:51, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ideally, it would be great if we could archive:
  • Town Level Data by Population
  • Village Level Data by Population
  • At least Chapter 3 of the 2002 Population & Housing Census - Guyana National Report (ideally the whole report)
Thank you so much for looking into this. Lorelei (talk) 19:06, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Vampyrella brocki

It took me a few days to notice your message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life, but I have provided a source you may find useful. You seem quite busy, so I thought you might have stopped watching that page. --Stemonitis (talk) 05:10, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Grant Hackett

hi, I know it was an honest mistake but please note what happened when you changed the article here. cheers . LibStar (talk) 02:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AWB de-linking edits

Your recent crop of AWB edits removed a number of wikilinks within article text, including [4], [5], [6], and [7], among others. These appear to be well-intentioned but nevertheless questionable automated edits. It looks to me like the tool is suggesting de-linking because these are not the first links in the article, but the problem is that the first links are appearing in infoboxes. Readers aren't going to naturally think to look to infoboxes to know there might be a wikilink to another topic in the encyclopedia. Would you take a look and let me know your thinking on these (and related) edits?  Frank  |  talk  14:00, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


  • Commonwealth (U.S. state) - Removed link to Kingdom of Great Britain. Is that link likely to ever be followed?
  • Coal Wars - Removed link to the United States. The article mentions Appalachia, Colorado, and the Eastern United States,

all of which are obviously in the United States. Why would the link to the United States ever be followed?

After reviewing these four instances, I don't think that any of these link removals are signficant, but I did roll back two of them.

In general, AWB shows an editor every instance of two or more repeated links in an article, and provides the opportunity to remove one instance by clicking on it, and of course more can be removed in the edit window. That is what I have done. Probably I will not do as many of them in the future. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:48, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review; I don't think it matters what links we think will be followed but I appreciate that you took the time to review. Did you review the others you made in that spate of edits? I didn't do an exhaustive search but rather contacted you when I felt there was enough to warrant a discussion. My list wasn't complete.  Frank  |  talk  03:41, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GPS coordinates

Please see Talk:The_ScareHouse#GPS_coordinates. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:42, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See the article talk page for my reply. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:54, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GLAM: Philadelphia Museum of Art update

Hi GLAM PMA folks! I wanted to update you about some recent events related to our fantastic Museum. I met Jessica Milby, PMA Collections Information Project Manager, at Wikimania in July. Jessica was looking for ways to improve articles on Wikipedia about the Museum and its artists/collections. We followed up a few weeks later at the Perelman Building in downtown Philadelphia where we discussed ways to increase participation in the GLAM/PMA project.

  • The first idea is to do some outreach to the GLAM:PMA project members, including mass messages updating you all about plans and, seeking feedback about new ideas, and hearing your thoughts about what's in the works.
  • The next step is a drive to improve the main Philadelphia Museum of Art article. The article is currently 'B-Class', but Jessica was confident that with the abundance of high quality sources about the Museum that it could be improved even further. Jessica recommended this extensive source from the Museum's website.
  • Another idea that came out of the meeting was a project within the Museum to assess which PMA-related topics are missing articles on Wikipedia.
  • One of Jessica's ideas is to have the knowledgeable curators of the Museum provide recommended reading lists for PMA-related articles. That should be a great first step to guiding editors towards the information they need to expand and improve that content.
  • Also raised for discussion were some ideas about how to engage the broader community. There is interest in setting up a tour/edit-a-thon, but this remains in the preliminary stage. Would you be interested in participating in such an event?
  • We have new stats! These 24 articles are all under the PMA project. I compiled the last 90-day page views and then annualized the results. PMA-related articles get almost 800,000 view per year!
See the stats!
Article Importance Class View last 90 days Views annualized
Philadelphia Museum of Art Top B 22,790 91,160
The Concert Singer High B 783 3,132
Crucifixion Diptych (van der Weyden) High C 1,500 6,000
Perelman Building High C 986 3,944
The Gross Clinic High C 12,897 51,588
William Rush and His Model High C 1,038 4,152
Nude Descending a Staircase, No. 2 High Start 26,892 107,568
Rodin Museum High Start 5,323 21,292
Soft Construction with Boiled Beans (Premonition of Civil War) High Start 11,026 44,104
The Bride Stripped Bare By Her Bachelors, Even High Start 13,639 54,556
Wedding dress of Grace Kelly High Start 5,810 23,240
Étant donnés High Stub 7,464 29,856
Bird in Space High Unassessed 10,365 41,460
Diana (Saint-Gaudens) High Unassessed 1,450 5,800
Interior (Degas) High Unassessed 2,434 9,736
The Bathers (Cézanne) High Unassessed 7,166 28,664
Three Musicians High Unassessed 9,421 37,684
The Fairman Rogers Four-in-Hand Mid C 736 2,944
Anne d'Harnoncourt Mid Stub 1,266 5,064
Lansdowne House Mid Stub 3,763 15,052
Portrait of Leslie W. Miller Mid Unassessed 362 1,448
Yellow Odalisque Mid Unassessed 817 3,268
Rocky Steps Low Start 41,341 165,364
Samuel S. Fleisher Art Memorial Low Start 304 1,216
Total 189,573 758,292
views per quarter views per year

It's exciting to have a partner in Jessica Milby and there should be a lot of good work coming out the collaboration within the next 3-6 months. Please stop by the GLAM/PMA project page and leave your thoughts. What ideas do you have? How can we move forward on the above projects? I Hope you're all well. Cheers! Ocaasi 19:05, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've just noticed...

...the updated assessment table on the WikiProject Guyana page - amazing!!! Lorelei (talk) 18:32, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And you did part of it, by creating new articles. Coord fixing not working out quite as well as I hoped, but it should let me fix some of the missing ones. --DThomsen8 (talk) 19:56, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE mid-drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors September 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter
  • Participation: Out of 37 people signed up for this drive so far, 19 have copy-edited at least one article, about the same as the last drive. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, every bit helps; if you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Template:J
  • Progress report: We're almost on track to meet our targets for the drive. Great work, guys. We have reduced our target group of articles—August, September, and October 2011—by about 44%, and the overall backlog has been reduced by 58 articles so far, to around 2600 articles. The biggest difference between this drive and the previous one is a stronger focus on large articles, so total word counts are still comparable.
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Typaldos Lines

Hello, I see you greatly improved the layout of the new Typaldos Lines article. You also included it in companies established in 1956. While it did take on that legal form in 1956, it had been operating earlier as Typaldos Brothers Steamship Co.. I have not been able to verify the exact year where they started business but it may be 1949 going by surviving timetables. It appears that they were a smaller operation but then expanded their fleet and destinations as they were able to buy obsolete ships at bargain prices. NightSt✷r talk 00:59, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of political parties in Spain

I recently replaced a section in the article List of political parties in Spain, working from a user file here on my talk page. The section is Political parties running for the Spanish general election, 2011. Perhaps part of my work is now in mainspace rather than what I intended, my user talk page. I am going to delete that work in progress, in favor of the section of the List of Political Parties in Spain. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:50, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Page Curation newsletter

Hey Dthomsen8. I'm dropping you a note because you've been using the Page Curation suite recently - this is just to let you know that we've deployed the final version :). There's some help documentation Wikipedia:Page Curation/Introductionhere that shows off all the features, just in case there are things you're not familiar with. If you find any bugs or have requests for new features, let us know here. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 11:50, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE September 2012 drive barnstars

The Working Man's Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to Dthomsen8 for copy editing 8 articles to a total of 8,602 words during the Guild of Copy Editors September 2012 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thank you for your contribution. --Stfg (talk) 15:45, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited Charles Hervey Bagot, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Mahratta War (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.

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Actually, this was intentional. See talk:Charles Hervey Bagot. --DThomsen8 (talk) 19:44, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE September 2012 drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors September 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

Participation: Out of 41 people who signed up this drive, 28 copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We achieved our primary goal of clearing July, August, September and October 2011 from the backlog. This means that, for the first time since the drives began, the backlog is less than a year. At least 677 tagged articles were copy edited, although 365 new ones were added during the month. The total backlog at the end of the month was 2341 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We completed all 54 requests outstanding before September 2012 as well as eight of those made in September.

Copy Edit of the Month: Voting is now over for the August 2012 competition, and prizes will be issued soon. The September 2012 contest is closed for submissions and open for voting. The October 2012 contest is now open for submissions. Everyone is welcome to submit entries and to vote.

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HD Draw

Wonder if you could offer an opinion. While it seems the Hackensack Drawbridge will be fine in RfD, both its original author and I think the more appropriate name would HD Draw, which is consistent with naming convention for rail bridges over the Hackensack and Passaic, many of which are not "officially" named, but rather are referred to by railroad terminology taken from their respective control towers. While this info is only lightly supported, the convention does help to disambiguate the many bridges that have been called for example the Hackensack Drawbridge or the Passaic River Bridge. Input (on article talk page) appreciated. Djflem (talk) 09:27, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I'm declining your request for a GOCE copy edit, and have also removed the {{copyedit}} tag from the article, as it is blatanly promotional and almost certainly a copyright violation, which I have reported. Regards, --Stfg (talk) 12:35, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talk back

Hello, Dthomsen8. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Porul ilakkanam.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

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Visit to Greater Manchester

Thanks for taking the time to fill out the talk page stubs for articles in Category:Textile mills owned by the Lancashire Cotton Corporation Category:Textile mills in Tameside or was it {{Lancashire Cotton}} {{Lancashire Cotton Corporation}} this is greatly appreciated. Looking for feedback as always I sampled some of the pages and found that my quality assessment criteria and the one you are using appear to be widely different. Obviously I am missing something. Can I just take Talk:Stalybridge Mill, Stalybridge as an example. This is a 11000 char article, with infobox, image and architects drawing all referenced- it was spelling checked in mid 2011 then ce by Malleus. It has been stable since then. Why do you reckon this is a stub. I don't usually assess articles I have started but if you look at User:ClemRutter/Assessment#C class you see why I would have placed it as a C class. Others are more subtle- but in general not one of the articles would be lower than a start class each having satisfied this statement:

Start -An article that is developing, but which is quite incomplete and may require further reliable sources. It provides some meaningful content, but the majority of readers will need more.

More detailed criteria
The article has a usable amount of good content- but is not comprehensive
The article must satisfy fundamental content policies such as notability.
Biography articles must satisfy fundamental BLP policies.
The article must provide sources to establish verifiability.
The article can be weak in many areas. (C&P from User:ClemRutter/Assessment)

Or is it that I am reading to much into the levels you gave- and your intention was merely to plug the absence of any parameters? Still, what ever the answer you are most welcome to pop by for coffee and biscuits. --ClemRutter (talk) 10:29, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your gracious invitation for coffee and biscuits, but I would prefer that eminently English beverage, tea. My effort yesterday was to add templates to most of the Mills articles, which of necessity means a good many Greater Manchester articles. I should say that I was impressed by the quality of the articles on English cotton mills, and I see that you were the creator of many of them. This morning my wife wants me to go food shopping, so I will respond in detail later today. I don't doubt that some articles are under-rated. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:41, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for review

Thank you for your review of the Artiglio (ship) article. I really appreciate it. :-) Gildir (talk) 14:51, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE fall newsletter

Fall Events from the Guild of Copy Editors

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in its events:

  • The October 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is currently in the submissions stage. Submit your best October copy edit there before the end of the month. Submissions end, and discussion and voting begin, on November 1 at 00:00 (UTC).
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  • November 2012 Backlog elimination drive is a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on November 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on November 30 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to copy edit all articles tagged in 2011 and to complete all requests placed before the end of October. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits at least one article, and special awards will be given to the top five in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged in 2011", and "Longest article". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest.
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Mughal Artillery

Hello, Dthomsen8. You have new messages at Dcshank's talk page.
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When biting Newbies, could you use {{multiple issues}} please? It's less discouraging. --  :- ) Don 07:41, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hack River Bridges

Thanks for your input and impetus to re-invigorate List of crossings of the Hackensack River. Plan to continue to work on it. Have added Court Street Bridge (Hackensack River). would you mind having a look? Thanks Djflem (talk) 08:52, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That is a very good job on the bridge article. I have polished it a bit by running it through the AWB program. I did several Schuylkill River bridge articles some time ago, and I know they are a lot of work, especially when there are as many references as you found for this article. I have already added some coord templates on the list, and I will continue that effort. It seems to me that what is needed on both the list and the articles are more photographs of the bridges. I can imagine from the satellite map and the existing photos that some bridges are not very accessible for photography. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:18, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Joe Gurba

Hello, I'm KoshVorlon. I noticed that you recently made an edit to Joe Gurba that seemed to be a test. Your test worked! If you want more practice editing, the sandbox is the best place to do so. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.  KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ...  12:39, 24 October 2012 (UTC) [reply]

It was not a test. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:44, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Err... putting in an edit saying someone's part owl sure looked like it

 KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ...  12:49, 24 October 2012 (UTC) [reply]

Examine the history more carefully. I took out a line about Gurba. I did not add anything. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:51, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merging Porul ilakkanam to Tamil grammar

I have proposed that Porul ilakkanam be merged to Tamil grammar. Since you recently discussed the articles at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Porul ilakkanam, I would welcome any comments you may have on the proposed merge. The discussion is at Talk:Tamil grammar#Merge discussion. Thanks, and happy editing. Cnilep (talk) 04:16, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you for helping me! Iowafromiowa (talk) 17:05, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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