User talk:Codetruth

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January 2013

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Aafia Siddiqui. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Auric talk 14:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion

Hello, Codetruth. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic Aafia Siddiqui. Thank you.--Auric talk 19:34, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Auric talk 15:47, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I left a response on the NPOV noticeboard but wanted to also leave a message here. Please, read through the reliable sources article, I think that's a key misunderstanding you've got about Wikipedia. Our articles have to reflect the views of secondary sources in proportion to the weight in those sources. This can be difficult for people with strong points of view but it's something you must respect on Wikipedia. In this specific example, if the majority of sources say that X happened, you cannot put X happened but it was really Y without any sources. If there are sources that offer a different view, you can add X happened but according to Z it was really Y with a citation to source Z.

Please though, you need to tone your comments down. It's obvious you are passionate about this but that passion can be a hindrance on Wikipedia. Focus on the edits, not on the editor and remember that others will disagree with you. Always find good sources for your edits and be understanding if others disagree about things and work to resolve disputes. Good luck! Ravensfire (talk) 18:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Replying to discussions on talk pages/notice boards

Codetruth, when you're replying to a existing discussion on a talk page or noticeboard, please don't create a new section for your reply. It can make it hard for editors to follow the discussion. The preferred approach is to click on the [edit] link to the right of the section for the discussion. You've probably noticed that most posts are indented - that's also to help with the readability. Wikipedia uses colons to indent posts. To indent your post, just use one more colon than the comment you are replyin g to. See the WP:INDENT page for more information on indenting. Ravensfire (talk) 18:52, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Surnames in articles

Wikipedia's manual of style specifies that we should generally use a person's full name the first time they are mentioned (which is usually the first sentence if they are the subject of the article) and use only the surname thereafter. Honorifics shouldn't be used in the article to describe a person, rather the article itself should mention that a person has earned X degree, etc. (See WP:SURNAME and WP:HONORIFIC - same article but two different sections). For Aafia Siddiqui, the article has been using Siddiqui but you changed most of those references to Dr. Aafia. We don't use honorifics but I want to make sure we are using the correct surname. Is it Siddiqui as the article has been using or Aafia? Ravensfire (talk) 20:57, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The surname is typically the name that person is most known by. In this case, that would definitely be Dr. Aafia, since that is how her family members, media personnel and everyone pertaining to the case referred when describing her. ^[1] ^[2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Codetruth (talk • contribs) 00:08, January 22, 2013‎ (UTC)

References

As I said, we do not use honorifics in Wikipedia articles so that is not an option. I'll have to look through the secondary sources to see what's the most commonly used surname. Ravensfire (talk) 04:02, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That is precisely my point. The most commonly used surname is indeed Dr. Aafia

Please re-read my initial post in this section. Ravensfire (talk) 03:22, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry - I was trying to be a bit polite and try to point you in the right direction on this. That hasn't worked so I'll be direct. Wikipedia does not use honorifics such as Dr. to refer to someone. Period. If it's in a quote, that's fine - we're quoting what someone said. But in general text, honorifics are not used. Ravensfire (talk) 17:29, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I'm Shadowjams. I wanted to let you know that I removed an external link you added to the page Aafia Siddiqui, because to me it seemed inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or take a look at our guidelines about links. Thanks, Shadowjams (talk) 18:24, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring on Aafai Siddiqui

Codetruth, you are edit-warring with multiple editors on the Aafia Siddiqui article and you need to stop. Wikipedia has a strict policy against edit-warring called WP:3RR - you are not allowed to do more than 3 reverts of an article in a 24 hour period without risking being blocked. There are VERY few exceptions to this, basically page-blanking or obvious vandalism such as adding obscenities or random text. Your reverts DO NOT fall into an exception. You need to use the talk page, discuss your changes one section at a time and get consensus before making further changes. Your next revert will probably lead to a report on the edit war noticeboard where a block is possible. Don't push it, please.

Also, your edit summaries are deceptive at best. Describing a major revision like this as "Corrected grammatical mistakes" is deceptive at best. Be honest with your edit summaries. Also, please only use the "minor edit" box for truly minor edits - formatting, layout, minor copy-editing, etc. Ravensfire (talk) 18:46, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In case you're wondering, yes, I am at 3 reverts and won't revert you again today. I will, however, report you to the noticeboard if this continues. Use the article talk page, discuss your concerns and your edits and get consensus first. Ravensfire (talk) 18:47, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can see people making dubious and clear lies against her and as such, this kind of biased articles need to be stopped. I am trying to make it unbiased. So instead of doubting my intentions you should stop those who are accusing her of baseless crimes not me. Because, i am only improving the article's authenticity. Codetruth (talk) 21:01, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://dawn.com/2012/10/26/malala-and-dr-aafia/

[2] ttp://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/national/21-Jan-2013/algerian-kidnappers-and-the-case-of-dr-aafia-siddiqui

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