User talk:Dawn Bard

No edit conflict warnings...

Hi Dawn - Just checking with you if you happened to get any edit conflict warnings during the previous couple of edits, one to Rochdale Principles and the other to the IP vandal's talk page. I edited both of those pages roughly the same time you did, received no edit conflicts on the Rochdale page, and duplicated your warning on the IP page. Not sure what's going on, but I smell a bug :) Would appreciate your help if you got the same. Regards, Fish^Barking? 20:24, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Fish - I didn't get any edit conflict warnings, either. Strange, no? Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 20:27, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

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Revisionism

I noticed that you reverted some of User:Msoamu's edits here on Wahhabi. If you have the time, he is engaging in the same behavior on the articles for Sunni Tehreek, Barelvi and Ahl al-Hadith - all Muslim religious movements about which the user has strong opinions. He has reverted virtually all attempts by other users to edit those articles and refused to engage on a discussion about content; on Talk:Barelvi, he has engaged in discussion but only to attack other editors. I reported it on WP:ANI but an admin told me my report was extremely wrong and might not be read (which is what happened). Myself and a few other editors are at the end of our ropes and don't know what to do, hence my attempts to contact neutral third parties. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:54, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

I opened a discussion about this at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. If you have the time, it would really help the article improve if you could take a look at the discussion and contribute. MezzoMezzo (talk) 14:24, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Alton Gansky for deletion

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Linda Riordan

Hey. I've taken a look at this article as it seems to have been the subject of some controversial removal of content and tried to ensure some balance. Looks like the comments the user - who may be the subject of the article - is objecting to were added on 2012-10-20 as the story was emerging and the full details weren't yet in the public domain. I'd appreciate some more sets of eyes on the article just to check - I've explained the rough thrust of my edits on the talk. Ta. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:12, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

mission statment

sorry ABOUT THAT — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.83.99.11 (talk) 15:47, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Dawn,

I did remove some content on the Hijab page, as there are a number of factual errors on the page. I hope you'll see fit to restore the edits.

Thanks,

Elisabeth Strout (talk) 18:05, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

FYI

{{help me}} ......User talk:Sandshark23#Thanks!.Moxy (talk) 08:07, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

New to this

Hello Dawn- I am new to the editing world of Wikipedia, though I appreciate it's great service. I am looking at the article on the agency I represent, St. Vincent Family Center. I have a lot of update information that I added yesterday but saw that it was removed by you. Can you please help me understand how I can best put the correct information on my agency on the page? Thank you.98.102.245.2 (talk) 13:24, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Facebeef

Hi Dawn, I have blocked the IP user on the above and deleted the page; be careful of getting into a WP:3RR fight! Brookie :) { - he's in the building somewhere!} ^(Whisper...) 14:27, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Understood, sorry about that. I was under the impression that reverting vandalism didn't count as 3RR, and that removing the speedy tag constituted vandalism. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 14:29, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Black Kettle

You seem to be having an afternoon of it Dawn! I have blocked the disruptive IP user on this case too! Brookie :) { - he's in the building somewhere!} ^(Whisper...) 14:30, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

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Advertisey?

Dawn, what exactly about my edits to Brickell CitiCentre were "Advertisey" and prompted you to undo my edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cglas (talk • contribs) 19:24, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

The whole thing is written as an advertisement; it reads like it was pasted directly out of promotional material. Please check out WP:NOTPROMOTION to get an idea of what that means, and please feel free to ask me or ask on the article's talk page if you have any more questions about the language at Brickell CitiCentre. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 19:50, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Thanks for reviewing "marketing de contenidos", Dawn Bard.

Unfortunately FreeRangeFrog has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

Unreviewing page due to PROD.

To reply, leave a comment on FreeRangeFrog's talk page.

REPLY

The user is using a fake name to edit this page & remove sourced contents without any justification.Rajkris (talk) 19:36, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Les pages Aryan & Mukkulathor sont vandalisées par 2 différents éditeurs qui ajoutent des contenus non référencés et en retirent d'autres qui sont référencés.Rajkris (talk) 19:40, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

That is not justification to break the 3-revert rule. Take it to the talk page. Also, the other Wikipedian involved is allowed to use a fake name, just like any of us are. I'm not saying their edits are correct, I'm saying you are both engaged in an edit war. Dawn Bard (talk) 19:41, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

There are many users or IPs like hm who are daily vandalising this page, to promote their ideology & propaganda. If we let them act, this page would be a complete mess.Rajkris (talk) 19:49, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Those edits aren't vandalism - just because you disagree with an edit doesn't make it vandalism. You don't own the article. Dawn Bard (talk) 19:52, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Removing sourced contents and adding instead unsourced ones is a kind of vandalism. This user edits only Aryan page, this shows again his mind & motivation. He's not there for discussion but to defend his ideology. From my side, I am totally ready for discussion.Rajkris (talk) 19:57, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

The other involved editor was adding different sources, and the citations were poorly formed, but they weren't unsourced. Dawn Bard (talk) 19:59, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

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Outlook.com

I made the change to the Outlook.com article. I believe you removed it in order to satisfy a corporate policy of not criticizing a company's product. Do not change it. A reliable source will be added soon, unless you are going to monitor the site and change it back in less than one minute from when I re-posted the paragraphs again. Please post the original text back. If Outlook.com will not give you permission, then you should inform them of the anger they caused in their customers because of the change they made to the product and ask them directly why they are ignoring their customers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.218.227.179 (talk) 17:30, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

You are misunderstanding my edit. There is no Wikipedia policy of "not criticizing a company's product," and Outlook.com's permission would not be required to post unflattering information about them, as long as it is reliably sourced. The lack of sources is the reason you have had your contribution reverted by two different users. If you want to complain to Outlook.com, their Wikipedia article isn't really the best place to do it - I'd suggest dealing directly with their customer service. Nobody from Wikipedia is going to be contacting them on your behalf. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 17:43, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit of 1953

Hello Dawn. Sorry for my actions. I had downloaded the page to my computer where I was happily amending it for my own purposes. I guess I should stop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.30.180 (talk) 18:22, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

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Hi sorry I don't know how to do this so if this is the wrong place I apologise. Regarding Walking WIth A Ghost I am using it as a template to create an article of Closer. If you'd given me a minute I would have changed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chickabiddybex (talk • contribs) 18:33, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

:?

Dear Dawn,

I think you must have made a mistake....The edit I made wasn't a test. I was just being creative.

Sincerely, Not-Logged-In User of Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.44.110.147 (talk) 21:05, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Bolding large sections of text for no apparent reason came accross as disruptive, and I wasn't the only user to revert your edits. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 21:13, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Regarding external link!

Hi Dawn Bard,

I notice you marked external link as spam. Can you please explain since I'm the contributor and if you check that external link its just a simple content page with a review. Please read it and tell me if you consider that spam or promotional offer.

Thanks,

Greg — Preceding unsigned comment added by GregBonu (talk • contribs) 06:04, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

The site in question didn't add anything of value to the Wikipedia article, it's just an unsigned review. Also, when a new user shows up and their only edit is to add external links, it looks like they are promoting something. It doesn't have to be a promotional offer per se, it can just be someone looking for hits. It's generally up to the person adding the link to explain why the new link needs to be there, rather than up to others to explain why it isn't necessary. Dawn Bard (talk) 12:32, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Mahathir Mohamad biography

Hi, on the "Mahathir Mohamad" page, I've already explain why I deleted previous edit by LeeGuan. Reference by LeeGuan is from blogspot, which, is not a reliable source. I've taken the info on most of my edit from Mahathir's memoirs.

And since when Mahathir's father named Iskandar Kutty? Iskandar is his grandfather's name, and there's no "Kutty" there. No record, or prove that Iskandar has last name "Kutty". — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Auditor In Chief (talk • contribs) 16:34, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

You didn't explain; you made the edit without explanation, and without adding sources. And none of the sources you deleted were from blogspot, they were from Barry Wain's book. And nothing you deleted said anything about his father's name. You undermine your credibility by misrepresenting your edits. If you are using Mahathir's memoirs, you need to cite them as as a source instead of just changing sourced content without citations. Wikipedia takes reliable sources seriously, especially in biographies of living people. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 16:54, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Geno (album)

Hello, thanks for tagging this for not meeting WP:NALBUMS. You may want to consider making it a redirect, as the tag's still there. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 20:44, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Excellent ides. Done! Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 17:16, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Dawn Bard. You have new messages at JennGEP's talk page.
Message added 07:11, 21 February 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

-- Patchy1 REF THIS BLP 07:11, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

re: historical facts about the scientific method

With all due respect, consensus based on bias and against documented historical facts has a horrible track record in history. And if the consensus were that Jefferson didn't write the Declaration of Independence, that wouldn't make it a fact or ethical for an encyclopedia to include. It is a historical fact that we have documentation of all 5 steps of the scientific method being used in an experiment in Daniel 1 and many of the ~32 steps of the clinical method as well. Read the peer reviewed article and don't be a party to censoring and erasing the facts of history.

People are just deleting historical facts due to biases, such as the one of methodological naturalism. There is more evidence for Daniel using the scientific method than there is for a number of other claims on that page. Be consistent. Don't use double standards.Dotoree (talk) 16:14, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

With all due respect, none of that justifies breaking the three-revert rule. I left you a warning for edit-warring because you have added that information to the article 4 times now and been reverted by 4 separate users. Believing you are right is not considered justification for engaging in an edit war, as you have already been told. If you think there is other poorly-sourced information in the article, bring it up on the talk page, but that doesn't mitigate your edit war. Feel free to ask if you have any questions. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 16:23, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

It's currently 4th revert in two successive days for user:Dotoree on History of scientific method. I could block him, say after his 5th & 6th, or even 7th reverts, but I would appreciate feedback on the length of the block. I will watch this page. __Ancheta Wis   (talk | contribs) 16:57, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I don't know, I'm not an admin - isn't the first block usually 24 hours? Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 17:50, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

The nomination was closed prematurely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.40.50.1 (talk) 20:18, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

No, it wasn't. See WP:SK. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 20:20, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

reverted speedy deletions

Rather than deleting the tag you say is incorrect, why not fix it or direct towards correct tag.

Actions like this make fixing flaws in wiki harder, when i good faith used the best tag i could find.

I'm sorry, I don't know what edits of mine you are talking about. Dawn Bard (talk) 15:55, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

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Robison Family Murders

The ROBISON FAMILY MURDERS has been part of my last five year's research project for the PETOSKEY PUBLIC LIBRARY, Petoskey, Michigan. This is close to the northern Michigan site of the June 25, 1968 Robison family Good Hart murders. I have placed all of the FOIA purchased references and other materials used in my search of this event and now feel that for the first time the WIKI article reads in a correct manner.

I now feel that all of the clean up notices should be eliminated.

If you wish to see further evidence of my credentials on this subject you can email me at MNR.RAWiles@gmail.com Richard A. Wile MA/Ed.S MICHIGAN NORTH RESEARCH 210 Sky View Drive PETOSKEY, MICHIGAN 49770-9212 MNR.RAWiles@gmail.com/ 231 347 4587

Thank you --RW — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eugene Francois Vidocq (talk • contribs) 19:34, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Mandy Stadtmiller

Hi Dawn,

edited Mandy Stadtmiller page for improper content and referencing. article reads like a resume. also the majority of the references included on the page simply link to the front page of a business or publication and do not verify the information provided in the wiki. also, the article cites the the twitter front page as verification that she "quit" her job.

article is misleading and clearly written either by Stadtmiller or a representitive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.93.19.145 (talk) 21:38, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi! I've taken a closer look at your edits, and I agree with you, so I apologize for reverting you so quickly. I see you explained you most recent edit in the edit summary;[1] thanks for that - it's one of the best ways, along with using the article talk page, to make sure your edits don't get mis-identified as vandalism. Again, I'm sorry about the misunderstanding. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 21:48, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Dawn,

I am new to WIKI, but I am a veteran historical researcher, former history instructor and passionate about northern Michigan (MACKINAC ISLAND area) history. I will take all of your advice to construct a better article for the Robison Family Murders. Thank you! RW (E.F.V) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.225.203 (talk) 14:21, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Recurrent Laryngeal Nerve

Although the "Institute of Creation of Research" jars to many academicians as a source "unreliable", on the theoretical grounds, all relevant and academic sources were included in my edit from the source article. http://www.icr.org/article/5512/ All of its arguments are cited from publications out of mainstream publication houses and journals. Please read the content of the addition in light of the arguments being made, and then inform yourself of your edit. Thank you. I'm an evolutionist!

I've never known anyone to self-identify as an "evolutionist" before. It's usually just a label that creationists use to imply that evolution is an ideology or a religion. The Institute of Creation Research isn't a reliable source on science articles because it is fundamentally unscientific to skew research towards supporting a pre-determined conclusion, such as "the world and people were created by a deity." Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 19:10, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

You must be a young man, because although the hesitance to American fundamental "creationism" is no doubt prevalent among scientific society, the theory of Darwinian evolution is still scientific theory. We work with theories in all rubrics of science, and sometimes they are adapted, changed, and even completely discredited according to observable data. The argument being added to the page under dispute, doesn't disprove evolution!! If may very well add to it! It happens to be a scientific assay from a premise of "Intelligent Design", but it's in no way not amenable to evolutionary theory! Remember, Darwinian evolution characterizes the courses and changes of existing breeding populations, and in now way explains abiogenesis. This is where the side of "Intelligent Design" adumbrates its arguments from. Although their premise may be wrong, their arguments may still be true! Please inform yourself of the content of the sourced information argument, because your edits have all been in trespass of Wikipedia's WP:RS Thank you! --Twainmaned (talk) 20:20, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Nothing you've written here justifies the use of ICR as a source on a science article, but excellent use of big words and exclamation marks! Dawn Bard (talk) 20:25, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Dr. Jerry Bergman's article is academically-cited from scientific journals, mainstream publication houses, and from fellow Ph.Ds!! The Institute of Creation Research has nothing to do with the content of his article or its sources. It's merely a purveyor of his content! Please inform yourself. Thank you. ; )

Even if we put aside the issue of reliable sources, pasting large blocks of text directly from the source is a copyright violation, and as such is against the rules here!! Please inform yourself. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 20:43, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Robison family murder

Thank you very much for helping us get this entry in the proper style and format for Wiki. It has been a challenge to do so due to unfamiliarity of the process. There are two of us trying to make this work in progress correct. The facts are true, well researched and very well documented. We are currently working on substance, format and visual syntax style for Wiki. Please don't hesitate to help us out. After we get the text in proper format, we will add our footnote citations. We would profit from your help there if you could assist us. Please be patient with us we find the process a bit challenging to a novice. But be reassured we are not novices with respect to the Robison family murder facts and details.Dr. John H. Watson (talk) 22:29, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Robison family murder

I am sorry about the Epilogue. Consider it done and thank you. Please do not hesitate to help us make this perfect. Footnotes are yet to come but I am beat now and need a time out.Dr. John H. Watson (talk) 22:42, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

ibiza

You deleted a whole section. Why ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.158.37.192 (talk) 17:02, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

As I said in the notice on your talk page, I deleted your spam (advertising) links, because advertising isn't allowed on Wikipedia. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 17:05, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Accusations of Personal Attacks and Subsequent Wiki Bullying of New Users

I have NOT personally attacked any Wiki fellow user and User: Toccata quarta is flaming, please see and help put a stop to this aggresion from User: Toccata quarta:

User: Toccata quarta has accussed me of accusing him of being racist here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Accusations_of_racism

This is wholly false. This started with User: Toccata quarta vandelising the chess article after I added chess is a board game "of Indian origin" and introduced the notion of "Grandmaster" by early on describing current World Champion, V. Anand, as a Grandmaster and linking "Grandmaster" to the Grandmaster page.

This is all I included and have contributed to Wiki, to which User: Toccata quarta reverted my post saying that "Modern chess is different from Indian chess" and that "Grandmaster is unnesscary".

Ofcourse, I never said anything about Indian chess and modern chess, only saying chess originates from India in the introduction.

To which I replied: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chess&action=history

I never accused User: Toccata quarta of being racist but simply asked if he has a biased view in editing the chess article with my specific use of question marks after asking him questions about his bias.

User: Toccata quarta then taunts me to not attack him when I simply ASKED (NOT ACCUSED) the question of whether he was racist and has a biased view in editing the page as can be seen with User: Toccata quarta's comments:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HACKER_HEADSHOT

Now I reply with further questions about the absurdity of what User: Toccata quarta has written. He writes, in brief, "I edit article about India therefore I am not racist".

To which I rationally respond: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Toccata_quarta#Personal_and_Racial_Attacks

Please note, I do NOT accuse him at all of being a "closet racist" but simply make the obious statement that defines closet racists - they have friends of all colors/races.

How is this a personal attack by me?

ESPECIALLY since he gloats and taunts me that he has reported me to YOU with this further heated comment on my talk page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HACKER_HEADSHOT (look under "February 2013")

I am worried User: Toccata quarta will continue to flame people if User: Toccata quarta is not given a warming about his repeated use of deleting posts unjustly and provoking other users into fights like this.

Thank you for your service.

HACKER HEADSHOT (talk) 22:09, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by HACKER HEADSHOT (talk • contribs) 22:00, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm not an admin, and nobody reported you to me. I just noticed that you were accusing another user of racism in edit summaries, and left a notice on your talk page. I strongly suggest you stop "asking" other users if they are racist. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 22:04, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I understand you and share your empathy in handling users that are so keen so flame. I simply want to contribute good material in edits and not be bullied by User: Toccata quarta and definantly NOT be banned from articles that are on my watchlist and I enjoy reading.

Thank you nonetheless. Could you please debrief User: Toccata quarta about the situation and kindly ask User: Toccata quarta not to accuse others of accussing her/him of racism? Especially, like you said, when they are open questions and NOT statements.

HACKER HEADSHOT (talk) 22:09, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Let's keep the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, so it's all in one place, okay? Dawn Bard (talk) 22:26, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

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Charsadda

i am from charsadda.. i know more then you.. so plz stop this.. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.65.156.135 (talk) 15:04, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Your addition to the article is unsourced, poorly written and not directly about Charsadda. I'm not the only one reverting it, and it's are going to keep getting reverted unless you improve them. If you want to improve the article, use the article's talk page to ask for advice. If you continue your edit war, the page will just be protected again. Dawn Bard (talk) 15:10, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit war

What? i have even added sources on the page that shows that they were not Kurds, the guy that reported me is editing everything and saying it's Kurdish, please take a look what's happening, and im not stopping until you see what's actually happening, i would report the guy but i don't know how, thank you. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:07, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

None of this is justification for breaking the 3-revert rule, and the information you were deleting was sourced. I suggest you try to reach consensus on the talk page before continuing the edit war. If you want to "report" someone, you're free to do so on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents or on whichever of the admin noticeboards is appropriate. You can also respond to the report about you on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents to defend yourself, if you like. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 22:15, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm not creating vandalism

You're damaging the english language by allowing a Neologist, incorrect term appear on a popular website when a more correct term already exists