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testing talk page communication Pradip Pawar (talk) 11:36, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK! Yogesh Khandke (talk) 11:41, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Hi!

On 26 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the articles Brahmachari (1938 film) and Meenakshi Shirodkar.

The fact was ... that Meenakshi Shirodkar stunned the traditional audience when she appeared in a swimsuit in the 1938 Marathi film Brahmachari?

Thanks for giving this idea to us. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 04:11, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No mention please! Yogesh Khandke (talk) 17:09, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prasad Shrikant Purohit's talk page. —— Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 12:53, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I meant you should check out what Mar4d wrote to you on that page. Also sorry that I didn't include a sign before here. Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 08:09, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We must differentiate between a suspect/ an accused and a convict. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 08:15, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In this argument, I am on your side. But I think your contentions are worth more in that discussion page. Did you see Mar4d's response? If you don't agree then I encourage you to put a terse comment there. Cheers, Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 07:48, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry too late. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 04:31, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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A cup of tea for you!

For your contributions at the page of Lok Biradari Prakalp. -- Abhijeet Safai (talk) 12:27, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh thanks! So thoughtful of you to have made it black for me a vegan. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 14:02, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Stich

Hi Yogesh - it is unsourced, but I think it's also unnecessary unless it's an actual quote. The article already says basically the same thing here: "[Stich] lost his business, money, home, and ultimately his liberty". Pburka (talk) 23:41, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As I wrote on your page, making unsourced edits is against my grain, so this one surprises me. You are right, we have the statement you have quoted above, so it is quite unnecessary to have one very similar a few lines down the article. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 05:51, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Hi YK, how are you. You don't seem to be very active these days.--sarvajna (talk) 07:24, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

True, hands are full. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 07:26, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Kokani Muslims

Hello,

I was looking up the Kokani Muslims page and see that you have heavily edited the page. Can you please inform me as to why? As I thought it was quite informative in its previous incarnation. I am not sure that the information that you have put, name that Kokni's are mainly Maliki, from my knowledge I have known Kokni's to be predominantly Shafi.

Kind regards

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March 2013

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living persons, as you did to Teesta Setalvad‎. Thank you. We cannot call her Communist unless we can quote her saying she is. I also removed her being implicated as that is also a BLP violation unless there are convictions. Dougweller (talk) 17:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I merely summarised: "Teesta and her husband Javed Anand are both committed communists who describe themselves as "very proud of being part of the Left tradition." Also I don't understand the necessity of the formal "March 2013" sub-section title. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 17:53, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How is that even a violation, they say that they are proud of being part of left tradition, this is an opinion piece written by Teesta and her husband and in the end they write we are both very proud of being part of the Left tradition--sarvajna (talk) 05:39, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And we could use that as a quote perhaps. But WP:BLP is pretty clear, contentious material needs very good sources. See WP:BLPREMOVE. Does she say she is a Communist? A huge number of people identify as part of the left tradition but are not communists. Apologies that this was done formally, I was tired and took a shortcut. Dougweller (talk) 09:55, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Dougweller you missed answering the key question: I merely summed material in one the sections and put it in the lead, why is material in one of the sections kosher for you and bad as soon as it is placed in the lead? Yogesh Khandke (talk) 15:21, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
One more question from my end as well which you did not answer on the article's talk page, you used a blog as a RS to defend removal. Why was that? --sarvajna (talk) 15:26, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sarvajna he needs to answer that on the article talk page. I have stopped warring on article pages, so I won't revert Dougweller. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 15:34, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Exodus of Kashmiri Pandits

[Mrt3366 bolded the heading to seek attention, apologies in advance] Hey, YK. I am very surprised, there is no article about the exodus, can you help me? -sarvajna (talk) 18:09, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We will need to do a little research. How about starting it on your sandbox? Yogesh Khandke (talk) 18:22, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I will start it in my user space and let you know once I create it.-sarvajna (talk) 18:31, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, YK I saw your comments about Gyan Publishing on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 138#Faces_of_Goa. I face a similar problem with Sitush he argues here that anything from "Gyan Publishing House" must be summarily rejected regardless of the book's author, content, etc. Kindly comment here or on the talk of Kashmiri Pandits if you wish. Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 07:12, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Is it true that "we should not use tertiary sources for controversial statements"? His aplomb stuns me. Is this: The Indian Encyclopaedia:Biographical, Historical, Religious, Administrative, Ethnological, Commercial and Scientific. Kamli-Kyouk Phyu. vol. 13. Genesis Publishing. 2002. p. 3910. ISBN 8177552708. not a reliable source because it's a tertiary source? What kind of reasoning is this? Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 07:15, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Did you even see this? Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 13:55, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(I'm sorry for taking time, you see, these days I'm a little busy and don't check Wikipedia as often as I would wish to, secondly I don't have a smart phone etc., that I can use to edit on the go) I have a topic ban regarding Indian history, so I cannot participate in a discussion related to subject discussed on the said page. Regarding Gyan, to my understanding there isn't a blanket ban, there never is, you could take the issue to reliable sources notice board. You need to establish the reliability of the writer etc. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 03:32, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Do you know anything helpful about the following claim's validity, which is "we should not use tertiary sources for controversial statements"? Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 06:10, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(followed link on Mr T's talk page) Tertiary sources can be used to evaluate due weight and summarize topics which involve many primary and secondary sources, but "should not be used in place of secondary sources for detailed discussion" per WP:WPNOTRS. As for Gyan Publishing House, it is a listed Wikipedia Mirror[1] and a known problematic publisher (the relevant discussion at RSN is available here). User:Sitush/Common#Gyan and User:Utcursch/plagiarism from Wikipedia also have more details on this. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 12:26, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Some Gyan books have been bad, that doesn't mean that if a scholar uses Gyan as a publishing house, we bar that as a source for use here. Case by case basis is the rule afaik. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 11:54, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I had referred on Gyan book written by a Fulbright scholar and it was considered good at RS. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 11:57, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just an update, I am reading "Our Moon Has Blood Clots: The exodus of the Kashmiri Pandits". That would give an idea on structure of the article.-sarvajna (talk) 05:21, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable Sources

Hi Yogesh, I don't understand. If the truth is not reflected here, what is the purpose of having it here. Who chooses reliable sources? How can one source be called reliable while others be discarded as unreliable? I was dragged into that forum, I had provided my view points in the talk page of the article itself. I really don't understand this, the scientific evidence, observable evidence etc clearly suggest that controversial article over which the argument was happening was clearly wrong. The observable evidence in this case was so obvious that there wont be any need for someone to write it down anywhere. And if someone decided to write down a lie, how could that become a reliable source? Amal89 (talk) 19:41, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Amal89 I thank you for bothering to write to me. Wikipedia has rules, but like everywhere it isn't perfect. If you check wp:RS you will have detailed definitions of what a reliable source is and what isn't then you have the Reliable sources notice board in case of a dis-argument, all I say is if something is bothering you, put it on the back burner, if the mistake is really notable, it is bound to be seen by other editors and there will soon be a consensus and it will be notified. Wikipedia you see rules by wp:CONSENSUS, plus arguments that are wp:OSE like don't work. Please leave controversial topics alone, and have fun editing else where, keep the article on your watch watchlist and you can contribute positively whenever there is a consensus that agrees with you. Thanks again. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 04:17, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Yogesh, perhaps I should wait until I find a source that also meets the wp:RS. Amal89 (talk) 11:30, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If possible kindly create your user page too. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 12:07, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Modi

I thought we were doing so well but you've gone off course here with your political stuff again. The edit quite deliberately did not mention Teli because that is a caste and would require self-identification. However, OBC is not a caste but rather an official government designation. If you and Ratnakar do not come to your senses about this dreadfully biassed article then you will find yourselves at ANI again, and with your history it will likely not be a good result. - Sitush (talk) 18:00, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with you, however I have as a policy decided not to edit war, I have repeated many times, I have no control over what you do. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 20:40, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The text says "He has claimed that his family were designated as an OBC", do the quoted sources support this statement? If the article is dreadfully biassed (sic) I don't see what stops anyone from improving it. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 20:45, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The content was not added by me, I was working on improving it per the source and Ratnakar deleted it three times as I was trying to resolve the issues including by introducing additional sources. That put me on three reverts and then you came along and removed the whole thing. Between you, Ratnakar and the lamp-post, the article has been massively sanitised in recent months, obscuring much of the facets of this man's character and actions that have been reliably reported. I, too, removed some content and toned-down the phrasing of other stuff but in my absence it began to take on the appearance of a Hindutva-favouring gloss-over job. This is precisely one of the issues that has been raised in relation to you two at ANI before now. I'd love to see what would happen if I added that he has been described as a "hard-core RSS leader" by a well-known, Wikipedia-notable political scientist who specialises in Indian affairs but, in the interests of fairness, I've left that out for a long time also.

Biassed is a correct spelling, btw - no idea what your "sic" is for, so you'll have to explain that one. - Sitush (talk) 21:35, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(1) I was unaware that "biassed" was an alternate legitimate spelling to biased, one that I am more familiar with. I read more into it than I should have. My bad. (2)I was reading a recent ANI case, and I just saw an editor being penalised for using the terms "Zionist"... "pro-Israeli"; I wonder when Indians would be afforded the same sensitivity. (3)I don't know why you are creating an association "you & Ratnakar", please don't. (4)I needn't say this, yet you are free to make any legitimate edits, including mentioning Modi's RSS association. The RSS is a legal pan-India organisation, that won't be a BLP issue, and the same can be supported by wp:Rs. Though "hard-core" would be "weasel". (5)I declared on the talk page months ago my opinion that the Modi article was not well written, I have tried to improve it the way I could. If you regard my work differently, you are free to have your views and take appropriate action. (6)You write "The content was not added by me" what do I infer from that? That you have no issue with its removal? Then why did you bring the specific deletion up? Yogesh Khandke (talk) 22:06, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The lead does mention that Modi has been a member of the RSS since childhood. It is a statement of facts. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 22:33, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Link to ANI case that mentions Zionism, pro-Israel and Jewishness.[2]Yogesh Khandke (talk) 22:36, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sitush, 1) I did not delete either the source or the wordings that Modi is a OBC, I just removed the extra things about OBC that you had written. 2) Between you, Ratnakar and the lamp-post, the article has been massively sanitised in recent months, obscuring much of the facets of this man's character and actions that have been reliably reported Let me tell you neither me nor Yogesh have done any major changes to the article in past few months so stop accusing us of doing something which we have not done. 3) I'd love to see what would happen if I added that he has been described as a "hard-core RSS leader" by a well-known, Wikipedia-notable political scientist who specialises in Indian affairs The very second line of the article says that he is a RSS member since childhood. Like YK said hard-core would be "weasel", even if you want to write more about his association with RSS, you are free to do so. On your talk page you say ...Yogesh, who of course is/was another of the Hindutva fraternity and you also say that Hindutva is a Fascist policy, in a way you are calling me and YK a Fascist which is not at all acceptable, please avoid using such terms in future. --sarvajna (talk) 10:05, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

happy stuff/proverbial wikilove

Hi Yogesh, I'd like to wish you a happy Easer (in case you celebrate that), happy Holi (in case you celebrate that), happy Daylight Saving Time (in case you celebrate that), and thank you very much for you work with the newer editors around Ezhava, de-escalating stuff where I couldn't manage to do so. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 11:35, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Yogesh Khandke (talk) 12:44, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Katkari

Hi Yogesh, Think that is the right call, better than tribe. - Clark Sui (talk) 06:24, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 06:27, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
Thanks for trying to defuse the aggression over Ezhava/Thiyya - but when some people are in a fighting mood, there's little you can do -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:48, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm doing whatever I can because I've taken the same route once. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 09:50, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think we all have at some time in our lives, in some way or other. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I also appreciate your comments there, YK. Honestly, if just one of them could be turned away from the threats and attacks towards productivity, it would be great. Qwyrxian (talk) 11:50, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
+ 1 - Sitush (talk) 16:59, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Katkari

Hello Yogesh. Good to see you have created a page for the Katkari. I created one in my sandbox April 1, and was waiting to transfer it over. Yes, I am quoting my own work, along with other key authors on this community. As there are very few published accounts on this community I do not see how one can avoid referring to this new book. It is a credible source, among very few available. If it is too prominent in your view I would be happy to reduce the number of references. Suggestions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel Buckles (talk • contribs) 14:01, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is a grey area as far as I am concerned. Please don't link to your site, if you wish to have media in the article, please upload it to Wikipedia Commons and then link it, the way you have done with the photos. If you check my sandbox I too had it there for months. You see if there aren't many sources it means the subject isn't notable. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 14:06, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is what wp:RS has to say about self-published sources: "Self-published material may sometimes be acceptable when its author is an established expert whose work in the relevant field has been published by reliable third-party publications." Also kindly sign your edits to talk pages with four tildes ~~~~ in order to sign. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 14:08, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Khedekar says "Katkari" are bonded labour.[3] That is complete rubbish. He says the Katkaris are strong... Is that scholarly? Incidently I've met Surekha Dalvi at Gagode, you quote her too. Small world. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 14:17, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Grizzly/grisly

Hey Yogesh, no big deal but I thought I'd just mention this for your info. Your command of English is better than some English people I could name but I think at WT:INB you meant "Grisly scenes at Ezhava", not "grizzly". They are homophones, as with "their" and "there". Maybe it was just a slip - I do it myself occasionally - but if not then now you know. I know that you have access to decent dictionaries etc so I won't bore you with the difference in definitions here. - Sitush (talk) 16:58, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I share company with George Ord in having being stumped by this homophone. Now I know. Thanks. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 03:34, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm more or less taking a few days off and doing some reading around stuff. I've just read a review of a new book - Does Spelling Matter?, Simon Horobin, Oxford University Press - in The Guardian newspaper and thought a couple of snippets might amuse you. Jerome K. Jerome apparently said that English spelling "would seem to have been designed chiefly as a disguise to pronunciation"; and Mario Wandruszka (a linguist) thinks it is "an insult to human intelligence". I'm no linguist, being limited to English and gibberish, but I do think that the homophone situation is one of the big issues with the language. I have no idea whether the same applies in other languages. - Sitush (talk) 08:57, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Just a piece of advise

Stay away from that Ezhava thing, people never assume good faith.--sarvajna (talk) 18:36, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sarvajna, I will if you say so, I've never been inclined to get into the morass that these caste articles are. Is there any particular edit that is in your opinion suspect? Yogesh Khandke (talk) 04:15, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mers/Mahers

Check this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mers. The other Maher page and this one need to be merged. Please check the revision history for the full article this article has been removed we need your support to put this back. Also have a look at Maheronline.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hindoostani (talk • contribs) 19:52, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hindoostani, please understand that the removals could have been for legitimate reasons, please understand Wikipedia policies. Also I have a topic ban, so I need to stay a barge pole's length away from Indian history, apart from this if there is anything in particular I could help you with, please let me know. "Community web sites" aren't considered sources reliable enough to be used by us. Thanks. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 01:27, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Cruelty to animals

This is a tricky one to argue. we sort of have to recognize that some categories SOUND POV, but are in fact neutral. I hadnt actually realized that this was true for a lot of categories. And yes, i am trying to stick up for animals as part of this. I personally (this is not reflected in my editing of course), believe that our job with the animals we are caretakers for is to eliminate their sense of suffering (esp. the sense of being trapped), and keep the pain of their death for our consumption to the absolute minimum. this would allow domesticated animals to live in the relative comfort of our care, free from predators and the stress of nature, as they would do very poorly in nature now. this philosophy would require advocates to legally speak for each species of animals (perhaps people with autism), and would require that we eliminate all factory farming, even if it means we gradually reduce the human population (lower replacement rate, not forced death of course) to allow for humane raising of animals for food. and, as you can tell, i believe that veganism is neither evolutionarily correct for humans, nor feasible for the majority (sort of dangerous from a protein point of view: maybe we can start a "krillianism" movement, where we eat plant foods and krill only).Mercurywoodrose (talk) 01:58, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Sources and reliability

If you want to contest a claim made in a reliably published source you have to present a better source which contradicts it. The next time you try to challenge or discredit a source that is clearly reliably published without providing a reference from another source in support of your opinion I will start an ANI thread asking for administrative intervention against your disruption. It is impossible to have a reasonable discussion about content if you reserve the right to reject any source without feeling the need to present any stronger evidence than because you say so. ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 17:03, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You ask me to support anything I have written specifically, I will promptly do so. Regarding AN/I I have no control over your actions. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 17:14, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have asked you five or six times in different threads on the talkpage to support your claims and not a single time have you presented more than a bald claim that it is obvious that the source is unreliable for this reason or other based on your personal knowledge and opinion. That is intolerable. ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 17:38, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm bald, not my facts, please check the article talk page after a minute. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 17:42, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Claims are not facts. Get that straight please.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 17:56, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Anita Pratap

Good subject. You need to expand it a bit more. Its currently a little more than 1100 characters and 1500 characters is a minimum requirement for WP:DYK. You may introduce a section on her career adding her journey. Also write about her works; books, documentaries and others. That would fit the length issues. And then you should nominate it. Note: The nomination has to go on or before 25th April. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 04:42, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I found some links which could be useful.

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You seem to away. That's why i have nominated it now. Template:Did you know nominations/Anita Pratap. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 08:59, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Topic Ban

YK, I do not know how you would do that but you should get the terms of your topic ban cleared. When they say that you cannot edit anything related to Indian history what part of history are they taking about. Technically even yesterday is history and people can drag you to ANI for writing about a topic which is less than 12 years old.-sarvajna (talk) 12:27, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As I said at Talk:Narendra Modi, it would be somewhat unfair if someone did that and I think they would get short shrift at ANI. I suspect that a safe bet would be not to edit where stuff happened more than a generation ago. I think a generation is roughly 25 years? - Sitush (talk) 12:30, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So you've found your voice that you lost when I asked you about Thatcher/Thackeray's funeral article. If anyone would wish to initiate proceedings for Modi/ anything else, there is little that I can do about such pervert applications of policies that are meant to be used to help build a better encyclopaedia and not to browbeat or bully. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 15:02, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You have lost me here, sorry. I have little interest in either Thatcher (Margaret, presumably, whom I had no time for and whose article I have thus deliberately avoided) or any of the Thackerays, other than perhaps William. William is a quite interesting author but, of course, has to be read "in his time". He can be pretty funny but is somewhat forgotten because he was writing around the same time as Charles Dickens.

I'm fair: some leeway regarding the definition of history is desirable but, by the same token, your topic ban was precisely because you exhibit tendencies towards POV stuff that the wider community deemed to be unsuitable. Do not blame me for what consensus says. That sarvajna has so far escaped some similar ban is a source of constant amazement to me, but they have had warnings at ANI etc and perhaps should not push the issue. - Sitush (talk) 01:06, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am happy that you prefer to duck the Thatcher/Thackeray funeral issue or perhaps leave it alone. Some time ago it dawned on me that life has been extremely kind to me and that I have been so very fortunate. It is not worth spending time bickering, it helps me finding the positives in events that happen to me and people that I come across. I've also learnt that I've very little control over what others do to me, so I might as well stop bothering about that. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 02:56, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sitush, I do not know what you are talking about That sarvajna has so far escaped some similar ban is a source of constant amazement to me, but they have had warnings at ANI etc and perhaps should not push the issue. I have never been warned at ANI except once here and if you read that discussion again you will see that I had requested the admin to give evidence of my POV pushing behavior several times and they never provided one (in September 2012). I would not like to speak more about this past discussion. I know you would be very happy to see me topic banned but I assure you that it would not happen however strong your evil intentions might be. -sarvajna (talk) 10:20, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry, but you are mentioned at WP:ANI again - see here. - Sitush (talk) 23:56, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I seems that by the time I've had time to answer the said thread has been archived. You've written there: "I am not suggesting that you have a bias but I do think that you have taken your eye of the ball. I've done that and, hey, it happens but in the interval while you claim to have been watching there have been massive removals of arguably non-favourable content - mostly by Yogesh Khandke - that went undiscussed, was often reinstated by others (not me), and there was not a peep out of you. So, how long has your eye been off this particular ball? The RfC is A Good Thing. Maunus suggested it and I agreed. Later, much later, you said the same thing today. So what is your problem here?" You have made unsubstantiated allegations:

  • I made massive removals of non-favourable content, implying that there has been selective editing by me, keeping what is favourable and removing what is non-favourable.
  • Most of the removals have been made by me.

Now these are accusations, where is the evidence. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 16:02, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Local Body Tax

Hi! You seem to be inactive currently. (Why does that happen whenever i need you? ) But still will drop a note here. I waited and waited for someone to create an article on LBT. But alas, no one did and i had to take that task. I have created it now and i am kinda happy with whatever is in it. More needs to go on protests and a section of opinions by notable people might also be added. Various counter-suggestions also need to be added. But i personally lack huge interest in such topics and find it very time consuming (although worth at the end). Hence i thought your editing would be helpful. I am also afraid that maybe due to lack of much knowledge of mine on the topic, i might represent things in a wrong or unnecessarily complicated manner which someone with better interest and knowledge would simplify and correct. Do edit it when you are back.
YK's page stalkers are also welcome in helping. In case you know of any editor with special interest in taxation, please spread the word there. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:57, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I too was thinking about creating such an article, but I'm pushed for time in life, it'll take a little time before I'm free. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 06:16, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Hey, how are you ? Busy with RL these days? -sarvajna (talk) 07:40, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It is things like this which make me believe that wikipedia is a waste of time. Something I have already know of course. But it is not something that happened overnight, it has always been like this, compare with this article on Google Groups alt.wikipedia groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/alt.politics.india/j9kEYaZ7DrQ --Cuffasofas (talk) 18:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Click this read the discussion. Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 07:13, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really too busy to wade through this morass. I simply don't know how to react. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 17:01, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Sukhdev Singh Minhas

I won't answer your comment there - because I think our good cop/bad cop routine works quite well ;-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:11, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for AGF regarding my intentions. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 17:14, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What is the good cop/bad cop routine? Is it an Administrator tool? Tiyang (talk) 06:59, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, good cop-bad cop is an interrogation technique, one cop beats the hell out, the other speaks sweetly, another metaphor could be carrot-stick. Don't take any too literally. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 07:04, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks. Just wondered. Tiyang (talk) 22:55, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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Thanks for your much needed edits on article Priyadarshini Raje Scindia. Shobhit Gosain (talk) 12:38, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

Your an interesting person. Would like to get in touch with you. Shobhit Gosain (talk) 12:45, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Shobhit! Yogesh Khandke (talk) 14:21, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar

As an example of the issue at NYSD, the phrase would be "similarly-focussed column" - although doubling the "s" is not required, hyphenation is. - Sitush (talk) 15:50, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh thanks but the issue is that the Diary originated as a column per source. That wasn't clear from the way it read, so tweaked. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 15:57, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is clear, believe me. I'll try to think up an example for the hyphen thing because it can be a bit tricky. - Sitush (talk) 15:59, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Take the example of well known and well-known. The hyphen exists to avoid ambiguity and should usually be applied if the adjectival words are followed by a noun. Thus, a "well known writer" might be read as being a known writer in good health or a person known to be a writer. Equally, it would be a "well-known car manufacturer" rather than a "well known car manufacturer". On the other hand, "I am well known for being wrong" (note that adjectival words are not immediately followed by a noun).

This is probably about as clear as mud but it is the best I can do at short notice. - Sitush (talk) 16:06, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh you got me all wrong, the explicitness I needed is explained here under.
  • Your version: . It is maintained by David Patrick Columbia, who founded it in 2000 having originally written a monthly column with similar focus for Quest magazine from 1993.
  • My version: The Diary originated in 1993 as a monthly column for the Quest magazine. The column had a similar focus to the present website.
  • The source verbatim: "His signature New York Social Diary began in 1993 as a monthly society column in Quest magazine"
Your version doesn't inform that the diary began as a column. That was the purpose of my edits.
Yogesh Khandke (talk) 16:18, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I sometimes have serious doubts whether you should be editing this project. You clearly cannot understand English as well as you think. This is one of those occasions. Alternatively, and perhaps more likely, you just like nitpicking and getting the last word in. So be it - I can't be arsed dealing with you when you are in this mood, so have it your own way. Hopefully, one day before I die, you'll finally churn out a decent article. - Sitush (talk) 17:17, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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hi Yogesh Khandke.i read your message.i suppose to follow that.because i love wiki .some times i used to say wiki is my friend. the reason is i spent more time with wiki :).Because of you i understand about my friend well.Thanks for your valuable info.have a great dayEshwar.omTalk tome 09:09, 15 June 2013 (UTC) hi YK,you said i m so edgy.i dont know am edgy or nor not.but i received that reward from many.now you:)Eshwar.omTalk tome 09:24, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Parikipandla Narahari

I found you to be an only Indian friend here. It would be really helpful if you edit this article. I am confused where this article is heading in Afd. Shobhit Gosain (talk) 08:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is heading towards "no consensus", which means it will not be deleted. I've said that I will fix it and I will, Shobhit. I've just got a bit of real life work to sort out today first. Given that Yogesh's solution to copyright violation is usually to load an article with unnecessary quotes, the chances are that if he gets involved then I'll still rewrite it, so it would probably be a waste of his time. But that is for him to decide, of course. - Sitush (talk) 09:28, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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RSN comment

Hi. If it's not any inconvenience, could you comment at this RSN post? It seems I'm getting feedback from editors who've cited the source in their edits to articles, and I'd like a more impartial opinion. Dan56 (talk) 00:03, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

The article Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Per WP:NEO: "To support an article about a particular term or concept we must cite what reliable secondary sources, such as books and papers, say about the term or concept, not books and papers that use the term." - the current article is entirely "sources that use the term".

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Those three sources are all just using the term to compare some personal situation to the Monopoly card. For a recent neologism where sources have actually written about the term and its usage, take a look at Chapulling. We need to find a source that's taken a serious look at the sentence's adoption as a household phrase - I've had a quick look through Google News, but can only find people using the metaphor themselves to describe something else. --McGeddon (talk) 16:37, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How about an entry in a "dictionary of quotations"? (I think I found one in Oxford or Penguin) Yogesh Khandke (talk) 16:50, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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your the original barnstar (2006-2013). Eshwar.omTalk tome 18:46, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Edits on Samra page

I have mostly never included anything without a citation on Wikipedia, and where I earlier did I have myself removed such text. I think Sitush, as an experience Wiki editor is bullying in his deletions of anything related to an author called James Tod, whose books are taught in History colleges across Rajasthan as the bible of Rajput history. My premise is that I am just reproducing what has been printed in his well known books. To judge the correctness of historical premises is always a contentious issue and we cannot dismiss a writer just because some people have said that Tod is an un-reliable source. And then he is feigning ignorance of the fact that Samra and Sumra are different spellings of the same HIndi surname, something akin to Dutta/Datta, Agarwal/Agrawal, Misra/Mishra. He has ruthlessly vandalised the entire page and made it a stub after all the hard work that has gone into finding reliable well known sources of information on it. I am not a Wikipedia Pro, I seek your help in resolving this issue. You review what I have reverted with an open mind and then decide amongst your Wiki-peers. If there is a dispute resolution mechanism on Wikipedia, I am willing to take my case there.Kulveer (talk) 08:32, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) James Tod is the antithesis of a reliable source. He meets WP:RS only when we are quoting him on his own opinion. This has been discussed dozens of times before. James Tod itself points out the general opinion of Tod within the historical field. Qwyrxian (talk) 10:19, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

hi YK

I read your comments .It is nice to feel .Thank you! and sorry yogesh ,i am not familiar with Narayan brothers History. yes,i can read and write devanagari .Thank you!Eshwar.omTalk tome 12:08, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I was wrong with the name, I meant L. K. Laxman, and R. K. Narayan. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 15:46, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Yogesh

Hi Yogesh,

I have been adding images on the railways part of wikipedia including railway stations in Mumbai. However another disruptive editor has been removing those images without good reason. Could you pls do me a favour & take a look at Grant Road & Byculla railway station pages. Would appreciate your help. Superfast1111 (talk) 05:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to trouble you again. But there is a particularly disruptive editor with whom i have had frequent run ins as he has been undoing my uploaded images without good reason other than ego. He has replaced a image that i had uploaded at Surat Railway station despite me tell him that he is wrong & why he is wrong also. The present image on Surat Railway station & Mumbai Rajdhani is exactly the same but still he refuses to listen & starts making accusations. Could you pls look into it? Superfast1111 (talk) 05:42, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

re drg55 appeal

Hi Yogesh, I made a clarification as you requested. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AE#Drg55Drg55 (talk) 21:27, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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