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TemplateData

Hi Codename Lisa,

Would you be interested in helping Marielle for the next six weeks with a mentorship project to help teenage students create TemplateData? Some information about the work and the sign-up process is is available here: mw:Google Code-in 2014#Mentors' corner. Mostly what's required is showing a few young people how to create TemplateData. The new volunteers we've had on similar projects in the past have proven to be pretty good, and several of them stuck around and kept working on it after the program officially ended.

Marielle doesn't think she can do this by herself, but she'd really like to have this added to the list. When the talk turned to great editors with both the technical and social skills to be successful mentors, I thought of you first. I know it's super-short notice, but I really hope you will be able to help out with this. (Andre can help you if you have any questions; he's the main organizer. Otherwise, you can just leave a note for Marielle—maybe at her MediaWiki.org talk page, since she's usually easier to find over there.) Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 14:59, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That would be cool indeed! --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 15:21, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Whatamidoing (WMF) and AKlapper (WMF): Hi. I have many questions. I start with two.
First, what kind of Internet connection am I supposed to have? Am I supposed to spend hours in a live audio and video session? Or is my participation forum-like, i.e. asynchronous responses? Or is it something in between, like IRC? (Please explain the nature.)
Second, I have read the article to which you linked but I still don't have a picture. Can I know more?
As for my answer, it is definitely a "yes". All my life, I was afraid of social situations, teamwork and teaching. Signing up with Wikipedia and nominating an article for Featured Article shortly thereafter was a colossal step for me; it appears God really favors the bold. Right now, I am both excited and sweating. I am telling you this so that there is no doubt about who you are dealing with.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 18:53, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Codename Lisa, thanks for your reply! Google Code-in tasks are tracked and managed on a website called "Google Melange" - as Google is running this contest (and Wikimedia is one of those organizations who provide tasks) they have their own platform and rules for it. I'm on a rather slow internet connection and it's not been a problem so far. It's up to the mentor of a task to define the preferred communication channels in the task description (and timezone the mentor is available in). The better and more explicit the task description (guidelines of steps a student has to perform, what exactly is expected as outcome from the student to let the student pass, where to provide that outcome), the less misunderstandings or misexpectations. :) For example, last year we had mentors who defined in the GCI tasks which they mentored that the entire communication between student and mentor should happen on wikipages, and Google Melange was only used for the student to claim the task, the mentor to assign it, and the mentor to close it as either "resolved" or "needs more work" after a student has provided the requested wotk. For me as a mentor, communication has been mostly asynchronous in the Google Melange system and on bug reports in Wikimedia Phabricator, though sometimes combined with IRC chats. When it comes to time, the only requirement that Google sets us is that we are expected to reply to students within 36 hours (when they have questions or reviewing their contributions for a GCI task) but others are often around to help. Does this reply help a little bit? Sorry if this is a long unstructured answer, it's past midnight and a long day... Please don't hesitate to ask more questions if something on mw:Google Code-in 2014 is unclear - I am very happy to answer (and of course I am also always happy to have more mentors in GCI who help 14-17yr old students to get an idea of ways to contribute to free software). :) --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 00:58, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yay! Marielle will be so happy, too.
I've looked at several of the tasks, and the better-written ones tend to have numbered steps, with the last being something like "report that you did this". The more cookbook-style the approach, the better. You might imagine that you were writing instructions for a new editor to help you as you're working on TemplateData. Perhaps step 1 would be to read the docs, step 2 would be to pick a template off a given list, etc. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 15:07, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Whatamidoing (WMF) and AKlapper (WMF): Uh, guys, I seem to have hit a snag. I cannot sign up with Google Code-in; apparently, Google Code does not serve in my region because of local jurisdiction. They are requesting real-world name, address and phone number and won't accept mine.
Perhaps there is another way I can help?
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 00:52, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Lie your ass off. As long as they don't try to contact you... Fleet Command (talk) 13:11, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Codename Lisa, last year we had a very similar problem in GCI - we "solved" that by defining in the GCI task description that all communication with the mentor must happen on some wikipage etc. So basically either the org admins or a co-mentor of the task could "proxy" for you and you don't touch Google Melange at all - but of course that requires some timely communication between the actual mentor outside of Google Melange and the "proxy". As said, that could either be a co-mentor or really an org admin who will "forward" and create tasks for you into Google Melange (with clear instructions where to contact the actual mentor instead), assign such tasks to students once they claim a task, receive a message from you when you are satisfied with the result, and close the task in Google Melange for you. Note that you should be able to follow tasks in Google Melange even if you are not logged in - it's just that they would be reas-only. :) --Malyacko (talk) 13:36, 6 December 2014 (UTC) (that's AKlapper (WMF) from his personal account because he didn't remember that password while travelling with another computer)[reply]
I hear you, Andre. I believe the "org admin" would be you and Federico Leva, and the co-mentor would be Marielle. Am I correct? If so, let's get it started. (We've been talking for three days already.) In a few hours (judging by the time zone), I'll contact Marielle and will notify her that I am available to assist. In the mean time, are you willing to act as one of the proxies?
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 02:14, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Org admins are Nemo (Federico), Quim and me so far, correct. So I guess we could set Marielle as the mentor in Google Melange (and I can be set as co-mentor in Code-in just for the paper and to also receive notifications), and you'd need to "draft" a task description (it could be even generic so we can create the very same task several times in Google Melange and make it available to several students): A sentence explaining what TemplateData is and why we have it, a link to more information about that, instructions like "What you are supposed to do: go to page X and pick two items from that list that you plan to work on. You must mention these items on this Google Melange task when you are claiming this task. You must also paste these two items on wikipage YZ where the entire communication with your mentors will happen. If you have questions about this task, you must ask your questions on YZ instead of Google Melange!" followed by the generic footer. (I guess something like that - I'm personally clueless about TemplateData and "two items" is just a placeholder for whatever makes sense.) And I guess I have linked to mw:Google Code-in 2014#Mentors.27_corner already for a list of other data we need for a task, like tags or hours to complete (be generous), and that reviews are expected within 36h.
So either Marielle could create such a task in Melange (and then any admin would review it and afterwards "publish" it so it will become available for students in the system) or I'm very happy to do that (once there is a task description you have agreed on). I'm also happy to "clone" such a task in case you come up with a generic description. And it's up to Marielle and you where exactly you want to "draft" and agree on the task description. :) Last but not least, I might repeat myself but: Thank you! --Malyacko (talk) 02:58, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Have you started writing a task description? I have an idea for a beginner-level task, which is to write TemplateData for all of the dated maintenance templates listed at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Dated templates. The instructions could be to pick one (a beginner's task is supposed to take less than 30 minutes), read the /doc page, determine whether the TemplateData exists, and whether it's complete (all parameters present), and whether the |date= uses the new autovalue feature, and maybe a guess at whether fixing it would be a large/complex task (a couple of links should help them figure out what we mean, or we could do something arbitrary like, "five parameters or less is small, six parameters or more is large"). The task is "complete" when answers to those questions are reported and/or the link is placed in a useful list (e.g., the correct section of Wikipedia:TemplateData#Commonly_used_templates with a brief note or code about what it needs, vs a note to you if the template is correct and complete).

Then (using that information) you could make both "basic" and "advanced" tasks of creating, correcting (e.g., adding autovalue), or expanding (e.g., adding missing parameters) to TemplateData for the ones that need it.

What do you think? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 03:39, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Whatamidoing (WMF) and AKlapper (WMF): Hi guys. I am back after four days in UTC time. (Mission; short notice; see the tag on the top; hopefully won't happen in another month.) Anyway, I posted task descriptions to Ms. Volz's talk page on MediaWiki.org. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 11:04, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've entered 3 of the tasks to both Google Melange and here: User:Mvolz/GCI TemplateData Tasks. Two of the tasks I folded in with another, as they seemed somewhat sequential and could be rolled into one (for instance, finding 10 templates, and adding TD for 10 is now one tasks) Feel free to add tasks to that page. @Whatamidoing (WMF) and AKlapper (WMF): — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mvolz (talk • contribs) 14:59, 12 December 2014‎

This sounds great. I'm looking at it now. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:22, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I added links to a couple of lists of templates that contain (mostly) simpler templates. I think it will make it easier for them to find simpler templates, and thus they'll spend more time writing TD and less time searching for a template.
It's probably worth asking the participants if they need more detailed instructions, or if they're having fun figuring it all out. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:32, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@AKlapper (WMF) and Mvolz: Hi. Of the three tasks listed on User:Mvolz/GCI TemplateData Tasks, I can only find two on Google Melange. Also, I sumbitted a fourth task for review to mw:User talk:Mvolz (WMF) (assuming that it is the fastest comm. channel with Ms. Volz) but I am yet to receive any response. I am in a bit of dilemma as to whether I can submit more tasks or not. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 22:35, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Codename Lisa: Hi. Hmm, weird... I see three tasks on Google Melange: 1, 2, 3. Unfortunately I cannot help with reviewing the proposals on MVolz' talk page as I'm pretty clueless when it comes to template data. :) If you feel comfortable enough mentoring them and if MVolz doesn't find time to respond soon (let's give her a little bit more time) I'll be happy to act as a proxy in Google Melange if you tell me which exact tasks to enter in Melange. The existing tasks looked pretty cool and "well-written" to me as far as I can judge, congrats. And of course thanks to you both for mentoring! --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 07:24, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Codename Lisa: The reason that only two show up may be because one has been completed. Of the two other tasks, one is currently being worked on (although I have not have had any further communication with the person working on it other than that they claimed the task) and one is unclaimed. I had a look at the new task you created- I am not sure what the benefit of finding templates of a particular type with no TemplateData is, but then not doing anything with them? Mvolz (talk) 16:17, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I thought the benefit is education, but you certainly know better than I do, Ms. Mvolz, at least because of having previous GCI experience. You can escalate it to "...and write TemplateData for them" but then, I advise setting the level to "Super-advanced". They require Lua knowledge, deciphering code and consolidation. Writing TemplateData for Module-based templates is the most advanced task in Templates area of Wikipedia and second most advanced task in the area of Wikipedia coding. (The first is creating the Modules.) This grueling task, however, can only be significantly offset by striking a template that already has ample documentation but not TemplateData.
Now, as for more tasks, you can create tasks for writing TemplateData for {{Infobox file format}}, {{Infobox file system}}. {{Infobox character encoding}}, {{Infobox networking protocol}}, {{Infobox software license}}, {{Infobox computing standard}}, {{Infobox OS component}} and {{System requirements}}. That would be 8 tasks. Any student in doubt about what to write in the description field can contact me (preferably) with a ping or (alternatively) via this page or via email.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 00:27, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Mvolz, AKlapper (WMF), and Whatamidoing (WMF): Did anyone receive my last message? Codename Lisa (talk) 14:44, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
My thinking for the "make a list" task was that it would be something that even a non-technical person could do, and that once the list existed, a task could be created to add the TemplateData (and/or the list could be posted to the usual place, where the lists are seriously out of date). Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:05, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Whatamidoing (WMF): I've said this myself a hundred times elsewhere, but my verb has always been "understand" not "do". Does "non-technical person" and "Google Code-in" not sound like polar opposites? (You yourself emphasized that these kids are rather brilliant.) In addition, there is not such thing as non-technical "To Do" in Wikipedia; only, there are options for a choice of technicality. i.e. one must be technical in the fields of physics, sport, cuisine, fashion, computing, fiction, copyright laws, history, carpentry, etc. Last but not least, the name of these templates might be technical but the job of doing their TemplateData isn't. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 00:45, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think what I was getting at re:list (which I'm not sure I was very clear about) is that students are supposed to be making a contribution to an open source project. We're not looking for purely educational tasks. Research definitely can be a contribution, but it just wasn't clear to me that this was useful to anyone as I couldn't think of any good use cases for that information (and could probably be done more efficiently programmatically). I could definitely be wrong about that though! Mvolz (talk) 13:32, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Codename Lisa: Thanks Lisa! I've added the latest task for review. I wasn't sure which 10 templates the student was going to pick for the "choose any" task, so I didn't want to list any specific templates until he'd finished choosing. Looks like no overlap though, so I'll put those up presently. Mvolz (talk) 13:32, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Codename Lisa (talk) 01:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've been watching the recent edits to the Outlook.com infobox, specifically the URLs. Can you clarify what exactly you mean by "microformat", and where the two links are emitted as one URL (as you mentioned in your edit summaries)? As far as I can see, the infobox in the article shows both URLs as separately clickable links. I'm not saying there should be two URLs, mind, just curious as to why exactly it isn't valid.

Pinging @WildElf as well.

Thanks, Indrek (talk) 11:43, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I have a couple of research tools (RepSec and .Whirl) that have internal Wikipedia apps. They all preview an article's lead and show information that comes directly from infoboxes. I am almost sure that they acquire this info from the same API, (seeing as how both looks the same) most probably from the microformats that the template propagates. For Outlook.com, the links goes to http://outlook.com and the display text is outlook.com, http://hotmail.comhotmail.com. It is not two separate links. It is one link only.
So, am I to understand that you and WildElf contend that it is not because of microformat?
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 11:57, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not contending anything. I'm not familiar with the research tools you mentioned, nor with the formats they use. I was merely curious as to why you said two URLs was not valid when they rendered fine in the article's infobox. Thank you for the explanation.
If I had to make an educated guess, I'd say the problem seems to stem from the research tools (or the API they use) not accounting properly for multiple URLs. If so, you may want to report that as a bug to whoever maintains those tools, as it might cause problems with other articles as well.
That said, in this case I don't think there's any particular reason to list the hotmail.com URL, given that it's now merely a redirect to the primary URL. Hotmail as a brand has been deprecated, and the primary URL for Outlook.com is http://outlook.com. In my opinion, that's all the infobox needs to include.
Regards, Indrek (talk) 13:21, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Indrek: Well, I agree with the last conclusion.
I was so far acting under the impression that the microformat issue is cut-and-dried. Now I see it isn't. Well, I'll leave the microformat POV out of this until I research and gain some insight. As for the apps, I can't contact the authors unless I reach certainty that it is their fault. If the apps are acting based on a contract or protocol, then he who breaks the protocol or contract format is to blame, not an author who implements them.
Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 17:11, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for hashing it out @Codename Lisa: and @Indrek:. It sounds like you came to the conclusion I would have agreed with as well.
The main reasoning I have for including the outdated hotmail.com brand is that it actually has not been deprecated, just avoided by Microsoft. The brand still exists for older email addresses (such as one I have), without a conversion or redirect to or from an equivalent Outlook.com email address (probably to preserve user names for new Outlook users, and to avoid copying over untold numbers of temporary spam addresses). Someone with email @ hotmail does not also have email @ outlook, and so regardless of Microsoft scouring Hotmail from everything they own, it's still an active brand that many people engage with.
Additionally, since Wikipedia is a catalog of information, and not a mirror for the current branding choices of corporations and governments, I don't see how a link being a redirect would be sufficient reason to avoid linking it (especially since it's safe and not held by anyone with potentially malicious results). It's still an active URL that's part of the history of what is only currently being called Outlook.com.
In an ideal world, it would have a note of "deprecated" or "outdated" along side the URL link, however the template did not support notations as far as I could discern, so such notation had to be dropped in favor of clean links. In another ten or twenty years, it's likely to have another name again, and I would think Outlook.com would also be an important part of the history, especially if it's maintained as an active redirect.
Since the Wiki page for "Hotmail" was effectively destroyed to go with the current brand re-naming, this page is not just the page for Outlook.com as it is now, but also Hotmail.com as it was up until just a couple of years ago, and for anything in the future as it may be when whatever company decides Outlook is no longer a brand name worth having.
For now, with the limitations of the templates (or perhaps just my limited knowledge of the URL micro-format), I'll have to be content with only the current link, and the history of Outlook described, though I think it does Wikipedia's potential as a cultural record a disservice, it's hardly that important.
Cheers, WildElf (talk) 23:26, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"{{ShadowsCommons}} issue resolved by renaming the file on Commons"

That doesn't really solve the problem fully, though. There is Bugzilla:28299 which tells that redirects on Commons are scary. It is also confusing if the same file name means one thing on Wikipedia and a different thing on Commons. I'm not sure what to do in this situation, though. Maybe the local file still needs to be renamed. I'm trying to solve this file (File:Field2.jpg) by nominating it for deletion. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:45, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Stefan2: (by talk page stalker) Delete the redirect on Commons then. Aren't you an admin there? Fleet Command (talk) 18:19, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted CrystalDiskInfo from page Comparison of S.M.A.R.T. tools

Hi Codename Lisa, I am trying to add new tool CrystalDiskInfo that I found that belongs in Comparison of S.M.A.R.T. tools why are you removing it?. Mckmckmt (talk) 04:04, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) CL, I just repaired this message. I just wanted to say if Mckmckmt guys is as careless and sloppy in that article as he is here in your talk page, maybe it is a good thing that you removed his contribution. Fleet Command (talk) 18:16, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hey FleetCommand, you seem to be retired and why are you replying on Codename Lisa's messages? Plus don't you have anything better to do than insult people by calling their post sloppy and careless? Mckmckmt (talk) 09:23, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Mckmckmt: CrystalDiskInfo has no Wikipedia articles; more importantly, it is notable enough to have an article. So, it has no business being advertised on Wikipedia. For more information, see WP:NOTDIR and WP:NOTADVERT.
And yes, your editing is careless, sloppy and insolent. You had no business faking a personal communication policy on behalf! FleetCommand is one of our venerable members and is not banned or blocked from editing; hence he/she has as much right in making constructive contributions and having his say in my talk page as you or anybody else, retired or not. I must stress that I will refuse to negotiate should you engage in personal attack ever again.
With due concern,
Codename Lisa (talk) 02:22, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dangerous edit to Template:Sister-inline/doc?

I am confused about your revert of my edit to Template:Sister-inline/doc. If your concern was my misuse of the semicolon, I copied it from the previous example (which you corrected). Perhaps your concern was the wording that I chose for the example. It would indeed be unwise to use the phrase, Click here for a link to "Dog" on commons. But four months ago, I made a link to a quiz at Computer#External_links that has never been reverted. The sister-link was awkwardly written because I did not know how to override the template's default language. It also occurred to me that you considered the edit "dangerous" because it would encourage all sorts of "odd" and amateurish sister-interlinks. I can't resist the temptation to illustrate your concern with another example of inappropriate use of this flexibility:

Wikiversity quizzes that have been placed on Wikipedia

But my example with the quiz at Computer#External_links illustrates the need for this flexibility. Yours truly --guyvan52 (talk) 03:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Please check the talk page on the Windows Phone infobox. I've given sources indicating that Windows Phone isn't Windows 10-- the operating system is defunct. Why do we keep on pretending it exists when even Microsoft's Joe Belfiore has stated that Windows 10 is what the name will be going forward? EndlessCoffee54 (talk) 04:59, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: Spartan

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Tupi (Software)

Hello! I'm Rro4785, I wrote it that because in its site is showed, I thought that wouldn't be necessary since the link is already referenced to the beginning, if you can please visit that site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rro4785 (talk • contribs) 04:33, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

please manually remove bad edits

stop behaving like elephant in store and please manually remove bad parts without reverts - w:pl:user:Michał Rosa — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.254.77.145 (talk) 18:39, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi.
If you are talking about DirectX article, changing "XInput" to "DirectInput" is introduction of technical inaccuracy. Did you even read the full sentence? Also the claim of DirectX 12 in Windows 10 needs a source.
The rest of the edits, e.g. changing Radioactive sign to Hazard symbol#Radioactive sign is a violation of WP:NOTBROKEN. I usually don't revert an edit just because it contains such changes but also, I won't dignify them with a partial revert either.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 18:46, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You destroyed grammatical fixes with missed "which" words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.254.77.145 (talk) 18:48, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again. Again, it is not a fix. Both versions containing "which" are non-English wrong. Also the link is not working.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 18:52, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

.net framework template

codename lisa, I wish you'd better to evaluate the .net framework template again, and install all the OSes on your virtual computers to see whether the information listed correct or not! Please make necessary corrections! Starvisionstar (talk) 23:14, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Starvisionstar: Hi. Doing so entails both software piracy and original research. If you have a source, please share and I will act accordingly. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 23:43, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Software piracy, oh no! For Windows Server 2003, Windows Server 2003 R2, Windows Server 2008, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Server 2012, Windows Server 2012 R2 and Windows 7 and many more, Microsoft had already provided 32-day evaluation copies for everyone all over the world. I would not think Evaluating those evaluation or trials are software piracy! Starvisionstar (talk) 23:48, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Besides original research is much better than be called awful and being blocked. Starvisionstar (talk) 23:50, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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