Talk:Subhas Chandra Bose

Death

How can you put a death section for him when there is dispute about the death? The following links will justify my comments.

1. Unveil mystery behing Subhash Chandra Bose's death
   
2. ‘Netaji was not dead but in Russia, and the govt knew it
3. SC cancels note on Bharat Ratna for Subhash Bose
4. Did Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose end up in Russia?

Until this issue is solved, please dont remove the neutrality disputed tag. Thanks! RRD13 (talk) 04:04, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

because a few fringe conspiracy theorists that have fed mass public misconceptions do not rate when compared to the mainstream academic view. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:47, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Agree with TRPOD. This has been raised recently and answered; for instance, just read the above post. To summarise the consensus, his death in the plane crash is supported by all mainstream historians and it has been presented that way; however, this dispute is a conspiracy theory propounded by non-academics and the public--it has been given due weight. Since only non-academic sources, i.e. news reports, support this theory (see WP:HISTRS), we can present it only because of its notability as a conspiracy theory. There isn't any dispute among historians...just the public, so it has been shown in Death of SCB page. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 04:58, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

There are so many academic research papers which does not support Netaji's death at the said air crash. there is a deliberate and blatant attempt to discard these research works as non academic. the entire page on Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose is a creation of somebody with a vested interest to undermine HIS contribution in Indian Independence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.112.75.158 (talk)

Can you please cite these many academic research papers written by mainstream historians? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:38, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Roy, Purabi. The Search for Netaji: New Findings. Kolkata. Sanyal, Narayan. Netaji Rahasya Sandhaney. Kolkata. Both Purabi Roy (Eminent academician, Jadavpur University, Kolkata) and Narayan Sanyal (Eminent Author) actually travelled to the locations for their research work. I have read these two that's why I am only giving the names of these two authors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.112.75.158 (talk) 13:24, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

There are many conspiracy theories about his death. The "death" section should note a summary of the theories. Britannica cautiously says "A few days after Japan’s announced surrender in August 1945, Bose, fleeing Southeast Asia, reportedly died in a Japanese hospital in Taiwan as a result of burn injuries from a plane crash." Historians and academics say that he died in 1945, note that the theories exist. For example, this biography notes the fact of his death, but presents a summary of the theories. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:59, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

The death section is the lead of the page Death of Subhas Chandra Bose. The section refers to the conspiracy theories in Wikipedia WP:Summary style. The details of the legends, conspiracy theories, and enquiries are in the parent page. Britannica treats Bose in a number of places, perfunctorily in the page Britannica: Subhas Chandra Bose written by anonymous editor of Britannica. This page uses the expression "reportedly." The more important Britannica reference is in the page India, in the history section, a signed article written by historian Stanley Wolpert, (see India: History: Impact of World War II, which says,

It was also in 1941 that Bose fled to Germany, where he started broadcasting appeals to India urging the masses to “rise up” against British “tyranny” and to “throw off” their chains. There were, however, few Indians in Germany, and Hitler’s advisers urged Bose to go back to Asia by submarine; he was eventually transported to Japan and then to Singapore, where Japan had captured at least 40,000 Indian troops during its takeover of that strategic island in February 1942. These captured soldiers became Netaji (“Leader”) Bose’s Indian National Army (INA) in 1943 and, a year later, marched behind him to Rangoon. Bose hoped to “liberate” first Manipur and then Bengal from British rule, but the British forces at India’s eastern gateways held until the summer monsoon gave them respite enough to be properly reinforced and drove Bose and his army back down the Malay Peninsula. In August 1945 Bose escaped by air from Saigon but died of severe burns after his overloaded plane crashed onto the island of Formosa.

Signed articles in encyclopedias are more reliable per longstanding WP policy than perfunctory articles written by editors, especially now when any one can comment in Britannica. There is nothing "reported" about his death on August 18, 1945. The Death of Subhas Chandra Bose article has reliable references to his death, including those of major historians of decolonization, Second World War, and Bose studies: Christopher Bayly, Stanley A. Wolpert, Leonard A. Gordon, Joyce Lebra, Peter W. Fay. Sugata Bose, Barbara D. Metcalf, Thomas R. Metcalf and many others. They all state definitively that Bose died on August 18, 1945. This discussion should be carried on the Death of Subhas Chandra Bose page after the doubting editors have had a chance to examine the quality of the sources uses. Best regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 07:16, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Due weightage

The following lines represent the view of a Govt. of India enquiry. The weightage of the same cannot be equated with one-two text books cited. The very fact that files are still unclassified suggests there is more to be known than in public domain as of now. Thus the lines which are [sourced] should remain to maintain and [point of view]: That he did not die in Taipei in 1945 has been confirmed by the Mukherjee Commission instituted by the Indian Government. The truth probably lies in the unclassified files with the PMO which the government has refused to reveal under various pretexts, despite its own promises.

SP 04:42, 12 February 2015 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pramanick (talk • contribs)  

Poorly written and highly biased

The article is highly biased against him and demonizes him in every possible way. Nearly all the so-called "academic references" cited are those by British Imperialist historians. This sort of quality in entirely unexpected from wikipedia. I have never had to criticize wikipedia in such terms, even after having read hundreds of articles on Indian history. This article has no place in a quality site such as this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.30.25.192 (talk) 10:08, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2014

I would like to add the Netaji's name in bengali: Bengali: সুভাষচন্দ্র বসু 94.205.102.166 (talk) 02:51, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

We dont do that WP:INDICSCRIPT.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:05, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2014

Dear Editor, Subject: Correction of date of death mentioned for Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose I will be looking for presentation of correct information on legandary freedom figter Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose. The information provided in wiki at the starting as - Subhas Chandra Bose ( listen (help·info); 23 January 1897 – 18 August 1945(1945-08-18) (aged 48)[1]) was an Indian nationalist I would like to inform there is no official records on the date Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose died. The information has been provided based on news published by Japanese newpaper without verifying the authenticity of the news. Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anuj_Dhar or Mission Netaji Site for more details. In absence of authentic record I will suggest either you keep the date of death blank or give a citation ' The date is having controversies'.

I request you to understand the sentiment of million of Bengali people who do not want to see any miss presentation of their legandary hero without proper authenticity check of the information.

Your faithfully Saumya Panda Representing 'Amar Bangla' - A focussed group dedicated to Bengal welfare and development Date:28 /11/2014

Saumyapanda (talk) 10:01, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

 Not done Hi and thanks for your request. Unfortunately, the date is well cited and cannot be changed. Do note that Wikipedia relies on scholarly sources (like the cited work) rather than on official sources. The controversy regarding his death is well noted in the article and is appropriately footnoted in the lead. --regentspark (comment) 14:59, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Death

Should we call it mysterious, rather than providing extra material on lead? Bladesmulti (talk) 03:27, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Please change the name of the section "Death on 18 August 1945" to "Disappearance on 18 August 1945"

Since independence, three commissions had been setup by the Indian Government to solve the mystery of disappearance of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose. Each of the commission's report remained inconclusive due to unwillingness of the ruling political party of those times, to give adequate powers to the commissions, in order to proceed with their investigations. It's a well-known fact that the so called plane crash death claim is far from truth.

Therefore changing the name of the section "Death on 18 August 1945" to "Disappearance on 18 August 1945" would be more appropriate for a neutral reference site like Wikipedia.