Talk:Melvins
Name
It's the Melvins; not 'The Melvins'.
- That's disputable as for wikipedia it's The Melvins, btw Moral support is not a musical instrument. 87.123.193.44 16:48, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
- Brilliant. Check with the Melvins themselves; look at the albums, and then tell me where the 'The' is.
- I have, and so had the wikipedia-guy who moved it from Melvins to The Melvins a while back. The truth is: the band is not clear about the name itself (26 Songs, Gluey Porch Treatments (Ipecac rerelease), Hostile Ambiente Takeover, Sieg Howdy!, Never Breath What You Can't See, The Maggot and Colossus of Destiny all carry the "The" after quick look over my collection here in fornt of me), by the way you are the vandal because you have edited the page removing the "the" from within the text where it should have been, the article here is pretty good (actually more accurate than most other biographies for this band even on serious or creditable sites) and it's been vandalized a lot, (partly by Nirvana fanboys who want to put the name Cobain in every paragraph and don't care about truth (just look at the Nirvana article) or fans of The Melvins who want to be funny (last think I remember is the recent "When Buzz was a little boy..."-edit, this is a encyclopedia that takes itself seriously not a humour fanside form the likes of "The Melvins Are Gay" run by Brian of themelvins.net. I don't think we should countinue to fight over the actual naming and just add some disclaimer that the name is disputed, even by the band itself.
- You're right.
- I have, and so had the wikipedia-guy who moved it from Melvins to The Melvins a while back. The truth is: the band is not clear about the name itself (26 Songs, Gluey Porch Treatments (Ipecac rerelease), Hostile Ambiente Takeover, Sieg Howdy!, Never Breath What You Can't See, The Maggot and Colossus of Destiny all carry the "The" after quick look over my collection here in fornt of me), by the way you are the vandal because you have edited the page removing the "the" from within the text where it should have been, the article here is pretty good (actually more accurate than most other biographies for this band even on serious or creditable sites) and it's been vandalized a lot, (partly by Nirvana fanboys who want to put the name Cobain in every paragraph and don't care about truth (just look at the Nirvana article) or fans of The Melvins who want to be funny (last think I remember is the recent "When Buzz was a little boy..."-edit, this is a encyclopedia that takes itself seriously not a humour fanside form the likes of "The Melvins Are Gay" run by Brian of themelvins.net. I don't think we should countinue to fight over the actual naming and just add some disclaimer that the name is disputed, even by the band itself.
- Brilliant. Check with the Melvins themselves; look at the albums, and then tell me where the 'The' is.
"The Melvins Are Gay" website is NOT run by Brian of themelvins.net - just wanted to clear that up.
--70.50.180.66 July 31, 2006 07:15 (UTC)
- Well he says he did, brain (themelivns.net): "I made the melvins is gay site, I thought that was common knowledge by now."
- Are we sure that wasn't just sarcasm on his part??
- No, but this is about the Melvins so we can't be sure about sarcasm on any part.
- Brian of themelvins.net DEFINITELY created the Melvins is gay site. This is a fact.
- No, but this is about the Melvins so we can't be sure about sarcasm on any part.
- Are we sure that wasn't just sarcasm on his part??
year formed
This is for 24.18.104.25: where is your source for the Melvins being formed in 1983? If you take the official Cobain biography as a reference, there is a story about Cobain meeting Osborne at Montesano High School after attending a rehearsal of the band (during thier The Who/Hendrix phase), since Osborne graduated in 1982, the old early 1980s entry appears more accurate. If you ask the band now when they formed they say 1984 (the year that Crover joined). Oh and please don't link to those bullshit Nirvana fanboy articles that claim Osbourne was living next door to Cobain in Aberdeen and even giving him (Cobain) guitar lessons (note to the average Nirvana fan: none of that is true!) those are not a good source to cite. noctrun 23:11, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Album ordering
Should the mangled demos be at the end? The actual CD release was in May, even if the demos were from 83. It's not an actual re-release, either, so it doesn't make sense to me to list the date as 1983 considering that's not when it was released. Or is there a policy regarding this? --Lysol July 1, 2005 07:15 (UTC)
Well it's 1983 because:
- It is not expected that the Melvins start to perform any of those songs ever again.
- It is the original (first) lineup of the band.
- It is the first in the Melvins chronology of recordings
- It wasn't released because, back in 1983 there were no indie labels in the Seattle scene, C/Z was founded in 1985 originally only to release Deep Six, (the second release beeing Six Songs)
--noctrun July 3, 2005
- The recording isn't a reissue of any single recording, it's a compilation of assorted demos and recordings edited together. I think the way it's represented now lends itself to giving the impression that somehow Ipecac released the compilation in 1983. --Lysol July 9, 2005 04:30 (UTC)
- Well, tracks 3-13 are an entire studio session (see the liner notes, but judging by your username, you properly already have) with some rehearsal/live bonus material. As for any confusion concering Ipecac releasing it in 1983 I think that the Mangled Demos from 1983 wikepedia entry clears that matter up quite well. --noctrun July 9, 2005
- The recording isn't a reissue of any single recording, it's a compilation of assorted demos and recordings edited together. I think the way it's represented now lends itself to giving the impression that somehow Ipecac released the compilation in 1983. --Lysol July 9, 2005 04:30 (UTC)
A Senile Animal
The album "A Senile Animal" doesn't exist yet, at least not in its final form. It should be moved out of the discography section and into the history section. --MikeBC 21:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)MikeBC
According to this article: http://www.roadrunnerworld.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=55257 the album "A Senile Animal" does exist and it is perfectly alright for it to be posted in the discography section.
Superfans
The superfans are a group of dedicated Melvins enthusiasts who frequent the website www.themelvins.net, a site which has many cult like qualities. HAZEXXL is the owner of Amphetamine Reptile records and has supplied pornography for the band on more than a few occassions. We don't consider that section to be vain nor is it vandalism. --User:Black Santa 22:37, 21 July 2006
Six Songs
Was Six songs actually released by C/Z? I don't have a copy nearby, and I've found some places on the web that mention the melvins had released the 7", which was later released as an lp and cd by C/Z. Did Glitterhouse have anything to do with it? Thanks.
- yes it was 1986 - C/Z releases the first Melvins record (CZ002). note that 8/10 songs are from 1990.
- thanks!