Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natalac Sheldon Martinez Davis

Natalac Sheldon Martinez Davis

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Artist from Natalac Records which is also up for deletion. There are a few sources, but nothing reliable and nothing in-depth. Fails WP:GNG. CNMall41 (talk) 03:13, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep These Wikipedia Pages since previously has been on for 10 years, but after 10 years later demoted to User Draft because of improper format and lack of references" Now some references have been added.... I believe as a artist grows so do their enemies... Yameka (talk) 08:45, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Thanks for the nomination. Well, I only improved the page and also added some references.

Actually, the Natalac Sheldon Martinez Davis page was created long before March 18, 2010, (about 10 years ago).

Now this wikipedia policy says: Unsourced biographies of living people (BLPs) created after March 18, 2010, can be proposed for deletion using a special proposed deletion process. Refer to these 2 links

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion_of_biographies_of_living_people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons

So, it means, the Natalac Sheldon Martinez Davis shouldn't be deleted since it was created before March 18, 2010.

Aside from that, I've improved the page and added some references. Let other editors make their inputsBenleg4000 (talk) 10:16, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Thank you for the two keep !votes above. As discussion regarding deletion are based on consensus and not vote count, I am hoping that you can help me see the rational behind your votes. There is a process to propose deletion; however, there is also this process which I felt best so that we can get a consensus on the issue. Also, there is no guideline that stating pages created before or after a certain date must be kept/deleted based on their date of creation. The reason for recommending this - and the others - for deletion is that there are no reliable sources that cover the subject in depth. Can you provide some in depth sources that cover the subject? There is a possibility that I missed them as I do make mistakes. I would be happy to look at these and withdraw the nomination if they are reliable. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:17, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Response to Comment I only used the Search Engine you provided for Reliable sources "High Beam" cause it was offered and I found that Natalac is the Trademarked Word owner By Sheldon Davis Ty for the High Beam Search engine - https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P3-3655765341.html

I went Further to look through other government sites looking for reliable resource info on Corporation Searches - and Found Natalac Records and Natalac Express in Good Standings - http://www.sos.sc.gov/index.asp?n=18&p=4&s=18&corporateid=704935 Express, http://www.sos.sc.gov/index.asp?n=18&p=4&s=18&corporateid=704934 Records these should cover Natalac, Natalac Records and Natalac Express as reliable Resources Yameka (talk) 20:55, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Yameka. These are sources but I do not feel they are reliable. Of course, that is just my opinion. Owning a trademark would not necessarily make that person notable. Also, High Beam is an archive database, not a reliable source in itself. Anything found on High Beam would need to be judged based on the original publication from where it was taken. If you look at WP:RS you will get a better understanding of what constitutes a reliable source. I know there is a lot of information at that link, but sources that meet that guideline are what will be needed for me to withdraw the nomination. Hope you understand. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:10, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome::: Ok, I only used the search engine you provided as Reliable and wrote what i found as Sheldon Davis owning the Trademark on Natalac i really had no idea. So heres the original Publication from United States Patent and Trademark Office http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4806:750me8.2.1 The other two Links I provided were Government source Information That Proves ownership of the Mark Natalac and his Trucking and Record Businesses. I only thought Reliable - consistently good in quality or performance; able to be trusted. My apologies but After Reading WP:RS I see Natalac has Bio publications in MTV, and 24 hour Hip Hop article pictured with Styles P which is noted as references maybe you may have missed, That is a Highly regarded Magazine in hip hop culture I think that is a Notable Article / Magazine publication Just asking you may have missed. If Not My apologies, I'll wait for others Editors to weigh in. While i look at other Hip Hop Artists References and Articles on Wikipedia to further educate my self on Reliable and in-depth information. Yameka (talk) 23:07, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]