Talk:Stamp mill

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A fact from Stamp mill appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 April 2006. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Stamp mills, first used during the Renaissance in such diverse industries as paper making, oil-seed processing, and ore refining, work to crush their material by repeatedly dropping heavy weights on them?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2006/April.

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basis for article start

Initial article text lifted from comments left by Apwoolrich at my talk page: [1] Hammermill section. ++Lar: t/c 19:56, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excess White space

I tried (and failed) to remove the excess white space in this article. Perhaps someone else should fix it. Thanks. Iepeulas

Full stop outside image brackets. Fixed. Noisy | Talk 21:51, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the problem is too many images or their location, but I forget how to place them on the left. Perhpas some should be at the bottom however. Peterkingiron 22:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge

Cornish Stamps and Californian stamps are types of stamp mill. I think these would do much better as sections of this article. Peterkingiron 22:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for doing the merge. However, I wonder whether it is desirable to include paper and oil mills in this article, rather than dealing with them as a cross reference. In their presnet form they are sort of orphaned.

Vagueness of Units?

In the Usage section, we see "The heads normally weighed between 4 and 8 cwt[vague] each[...]" — is there a particular reason that the unit of measurement is marked with a [vague] notation linking to the manual of style? The unit of measurement, the Hundredweight (abbreviated cwt) is properly linked to the article on Hundredweight, so I am not clear if the person who added this notation was concerned about the unit of measure itself (which varies by country) or about the qualifier "normally", or the fact that a range of weights is given. Regardless, the passage doesn't seem particularly vague to me, as it describes a range of possible weights using units appropriate to the industry of application, so I propose the removal of the [vague] tag/notation unless someone can explain what would be a suitable substitute or improvement.204.17.26.4 (talk) 23:32, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The reason it is there is because it doesn't state if the unit is a long hundredweight or a short hundredweight. Wizard191 (talk) 13:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am sure that the cwt of 112 lb would be meant: that is the standard meaning of hundredweight in imperial weights. I suspect that the tagger's objection was to the range 4-8 cwt. However the range no doubt reflects that different weight heads were used in different places or at differnet times. I would welcome the removal of the tag. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:26, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

martinet stamp mill historic illustration

There's an interesting woodcut illustration of martinet stamp mills available (which I posted about at wt:MILLS#disambiguation in 22 wp:Mills articles, what follows is modified with corrections/clarifications from that):

"Osmund" is the reported location of a "martinet" stamp mill, in the first known illustration of such (quote from this current Stamp mill article):
The oldest depicted European illustration of a martinet forge-hammer is perhaps the Historia de Gentibus Septentrionalibus of Olaus Magnus, dated to 1565 AD. In this woodcut image, there is the scene of three martinets and a waterwheel working wood and leather bellows of the Osmund bloomery furnace.
I figured out that the actual illustration, a woodcut, is available within the online "category 10" of http://www.avrosys.nu/prints/index.htm website, which seeks to make all the woodcuts of the Scandinavian "historia" available for use.
Browsing I found this woodcut image (with description RE: powering "tilt-hammers" here. It has ~~three~~four watermills], and is the woodcut mentioned. I would describe it as four watermills powering a bellows and three "tilt-hammers", rather than implying there is just one waterwheel.

It would be great if anyone skilled with uploading to commons would grab that image and put it into this article. I believe it is offered under wikipedia-compatible terms. --do ncr am 17:59, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese Link and Interwiki...

Japanese do have Waterwheels and Mills - However for this article the Usu-link and the Interwiki-link "Kine"/杵 refers to what we would call a "Mortar & Pestle", albeit a large form - We would not term this as a "Stamp mill". 'Usu' is the Mortar and Interwiki-link"Kine"/杵 goes to the Pestle used in combination. The kanji-character for 'Usu'/臼 may be combined with other characters to make a type of Mill, however, there apparently is no Japanese article for the Karausu / 唐臼 currently. 80.5.219.60 (talk) 10:53, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]