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Requests for arbitration

Brahmaguptas Multan connection

Initiated by Xinjao (talk) at 12:38, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Involved parties

Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried

Statement by Xinjao

I added reference to Multan as the residence of historical figure, Brahmagupta. Party2 removed the reference citing the lack of a source. I added a source, a book by an Indian author. It appeared that he accepted the source at first but then later removed the reference again.

Statement by Kautilya3

This is evidently a content dispute that doesn't belong here. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:17, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Robert McClenon

If this were a Third Opinion request or a request for moderated dispute resolution, it would be declined because there has been inadequate talk page discussion. There has been inadequate talk page discussion and there has been no attempt to use any content resolution procedure, as as Third Opinion, moderated dispute resolution, formal mediation, or a Request for Comments. Also, ArbCom is for conduct disputes that the community cannot deal with. (Also, if there is a conduct dispute, it has already been arbitrated, and ends with Arbitration Enforcement.) I see no claims of conduct dispute, let alone any efforts to deal with a conduct dispute. This case should be declined and the filing party should be admonished for wasting time.

Statement by Mz7

Have we ever considered allowing arbitrators to unilaterally decline obviously premature requests? Or perhaps requiring an ANI discussion prior to an arbitration request for disputes not involving administrators (since this is supposed to be the court of last resort for such matters)? We seem to be getting a lot of premature requests, and I feel like shortening the process would save some time and hopefully get disputes resolved more quickly, rather than waiting to get to a majority. Mz7 (talk) 18:26, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@L235: Ah, thanks for clarifying. I don't think this request is deliberately "frivolous" or "meaningless" more than it is one user who is simply inexperienced with the Wikipedia dispute resolution process. We shouldn't be admonishing these users, but counseling them on how we do things. With that being said, time and efficiency are also important, and I think we can give advice to these users without having to wait for 8 inevitable oppose votes. Mz7 (talk) 21:18, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by {Non-party}

Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information.

Clerk notes

This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).

Brahmaguptas Multan connection: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/10/0/0>

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