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    April 30

    Marthe Rakine: I wrote an article and cannot finish it. The last part disappeard

    I wrote an article and do not find the end of this article any more (I startet twice) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:120B:2C0D:5A90:BC:EFF7:1B35:C9D5 (talk) 08:39, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    If you refer to this edit then click the "View history" tab to see what happened: [1]. The edit was reverted with the explanation "Failure to cite a reliable source". You can click the link on "cite" and also see Wikipedia:Verifiability. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:50, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    The article is not yet ready for publication, it has long unreferenced paragraphs which are currently in a section titled "References". I have moved it to draft space as Draft:Marthe_Rakine until it can be finished. Maproom (talk) 08:19, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    daverobril

    hi name daverobril form califorina san deigo american music official artist composer and cover music — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daverobril (talk • contribs) 12:41, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Help: Sister María Justa de Jesús

    Sister María Justa de Jesús (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

    Hi, I am asking who can improve this article. This is a case of "Alumbrados", as: La Beata de Piedrahita, Magdalena de la Cruz, etc.--CanaryIslands (talk) 14:34, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hey, you can ask for help via the talk page located in the article or you can ask for suggestions on improving the article via Articles for Creation O. neon 21:54, 30 April 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by OfficialNeon (talk • contribs)

    Removing link from category page

    German submarine U-398 can't be missing co-ordinates because the place where it sank is unknown. Therefore I would like to arrange to have its link removed from this category page: Category:North_Sea_articles_missing_geocoordinate_data. Please tell me how I should do that. SewerCat (talk) 20:20, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    The category is added by {{coord missing|North Sea}} in the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:50, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! SewerCat (talk) 22:01, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    iPad Infobox Editing

    Hello! I'm on my iPad and when I go to the infobox to replace a picture that shows a building that's been since demolished to make way for a new building, it doesn't has the option to add the image. How can you add a new image into infobox on iOS? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OfficialNeon (talk • contribs) 20:53, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @OfficialNeon: It depends on the type of infobox and where the image is. Which page is it about? Has a current image been uploaded or where is it? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:42, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @PrimeHunter: It's about a local building which has been recently demolished to make way for an updated building by the same company. The current image is uploaded yes. O. neon 21:47, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @OfficialNeon: Which page is it about? Name the actual page. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:15, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @PrimeHunter: Custom House for ExCeL DLR station — Preceding unsigned comment added by OfficialNeon (talk • contribs)
    @OfficialNeon: It uses {{Infobox London station}} which only supports one image. In the mobile version, click the pencil icon at the top right and change image_name =Custom House stn entrance.JPG if another image is better. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:07, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Disambiguation hatnote, four meanings

    I was entering Lanco expecting to see the article Langendorf Watch Company SA (historic "Lanco" watch brand) but got the city in Chile. The disambiguation hatnote, which is using the template {{for2}}, already mentions three different meanings of "Lanco", but the watch brand isn't among them. As {{for2}} doesn't accept more than three topics, what approach should I use to add the watch brand meaning? {{For}} supports links to up to four articles, but not the currently used custom text (such as "For the country music band"), so doesn't seem ideal. Should I create a separate disambiguation page? Gestumblindi (talk) 21:58, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Gestumblindi: There should be a disambiguation page. I will handle it. Lanco is currently about a city in Chile but it's not the primary topic so I will make the disambiguation there. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:26, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @PrimeHunter: Thank you, looks good :-) Gestumblindi (talk) 23:47, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @PrimeHunter: I noticed that Talk:Lanco (the talk page of the disambiguation) now redirects to Talk:Lanco, Chile, maybe you could fix that too (by deleting that talk page redirect, I think? It's what we would do in German-language Wikipedia)? Gestumblindi (talk) 21:35, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gestumblindi: I have deleted the talk page and finished removing articles from Special:WhatLinksHere/Lanco. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:31, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Seymour Bernstein

    I've never seen this happen before, so I'm not sure the protocol. Is it correct to simply go in and remove the major bulk of an article based on the age of a header tag: Seymour Bernstein action history? It seems a bit extreme. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 23:01, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    • Maineartists, hello. In BLPs, yes; and it's perfectly valid to do that. The unsourced BLP material has been removed (ergo, it has been challenged). Unless someone finds reliable sources to back the claims made in the removed section, it should not be added back. Thanks. Lourdes 02:15, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Good to know. So if I see a section that has the citation improvement header tag with no sources / inline citations, I should simply delete the entire section as a challenge regardless of the size of the content? even if that content is the entire article itself (as was this case)? presently, doesn't that set this subject up for an AfD? When do we as editors take the situation case by case and weigh the consequences independently by seeing that simply one reliable source added to this biography would have sufficed rather than the deletion of all content? the content wasn't contentious or libelous, but merely a poorly attended and sourced article; which a few searches would have yielded results, I would imagine. Are you actually condoning the behavior of absolute deletion over encyclopedic improvement? Maineartists (talk) 03:03, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree that it is always better to add reliable sources than to delete valid content, but if no-one can be bothered to do this ...
    Thank you for restoring the information and adding sources. Dbfirs 07:35, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello Maineartists. I'll second what Dbfirs mentions. As our BLP policy mentions: "Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion. Users who persistently or egregiously violate this policy may be blocked from editing. [...] The burden of evidence rests with the editor who adds or restores material." What seems non-contentious to you may seem contentious to another person. If an editor removes unsourced material from a BLP, the default stand is that the material has been challenged. If you feel strongly about some material being removed, you should not hesitate to re-add it provided you have supported the same with the required sources. Of course, I have seen editors attempting to make a point by removing all unsourced BLP material. That is disruptive behavior, in my opinion, and I don't support that. Hope this clarifies. Lourdes 03:35, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    May 1

    Super Bowl Template needs to be fixed

    Can you fix the super bowl template please 2600:8803:7A00:976A:118C:818B:684D:7776 (talk) 02:56, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Template:Super Bowl was vandalized and has been fixed. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:54, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Incorrect Edits

    Please see the wiki page Monjuic. Two days ago I edited the etymology of the name, which contained erroneous information. Yesterday my edit was removed and I was told it was because my source "came from Israel" so it is not reliable. I am speechless. The wiki editor put back his original citation (which takes you to a wiki page about an encyclopedia, but is in no way a specific citation on the etymology of the name Monjuic). I have now supplied him with two further references, both of which do not "come from Israel". I am so disappointed that we are now calling references from Israel unreliable. I tried to find a proper link to follow what should be done when an editor is removing my correct info, and in place putting something that is not accurate, but I could find no such link. I hope you can help. I hope he wont become vindictive and delete my other work. This is why people are leery of Wiki work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sktpa (talk • contribs) 03:21, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Sktpa: Hello, the reason the edit was deleted was because the source was not reliable enough, not because it came from Israel per se. (See reason given in this edit). Please see WP:RS for more information in respect of reliability. This has been explained to you in response to your question at the other editor's talk page. The reference added by the other editor goes into some detail about the etymology. Also, this is really a content dispute and should be resolved by (amicable) discussion between you both. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 04:56, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your response. Please note a. this is the message the editor sent to me "The reference you supplied was (1) a passing mention in (2) a travel article in (3) an Israeli newspaper." That is a quote. Furthermore, as i noted, I tried to find a link/information that would explain how to handle this, and could find none. That was my inquiry to you. All that was needed was a direction to discuss it with him. And sadly, we tried and do not see eye to eye. Anyone who would include "an Israeli newspaper" as a reason for deleting a source is simply beyond my understanding, even if it was one of three reason--it is very bad form. I accept this will not be changed, and will not comment further about it here. I am very sad for Wikipedia. I just finished my MLIS and now I truly understand why professors will not permit any citation from Wiki. Thank you for your time. I hope your health improves. Sktpa (talk) 22:55, 1 May 2017 (UTC).[reply]
    @Skypta: Firstly, thank you for your good wishes. I have taken the liberty of fixing the indentation and signature in your message. Moving on to the business in hand, as the other editor explained at his talk page, the reference was not deemed unacceptable because it came from Israel but because it was, for Wikipedia, not satisfactory. The same would likely to be said for any travelogue page in any world newspaper; it is unlikely to have the specialist knowledge that a local encyclopedia dedicated to the area under discussion would have. Of course, academics are unlikely to accept Wiki as a reference because of the danger of editors, in good faith, introducing poorly sourced material. Something the other editor is trying to avoid. I am as sure as I possibly can be that there was no racial motive behind this. Please take care not to make any sort of disparaging remark about another editor, however minor. (See WP:NPA). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 23:28, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    P.S. Just type the four tildes...nothing else. Automatically produces your sig. and a timestamp. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 23:28, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    after I did what I was asked

    Hi, I made an page about a football player and it told me to put links in on the page or else would be deleted. Well I put a few links in and it's still telling me the page is going to be deleted. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YtS FlameZ (talk • contribs) 03:25, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @YtS Flamez: The notice has to be removed by another editor. It does not happen 'automatically'. As more than one source has been added, I have removed the 'Prod' (as it is known...short for proposed deletion) and also tidied the page up a bit. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tides (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 04:38, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    "Kefir" mentions kefir grains but does not define the grains.

    "Kefir" mentions kefir grains but does not define the grains. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.231.216.84 (talk) 04:29, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    The Kefir#Overview paragraph says "The kefir grains initiating the fermentation are a combination of lactic acid bacteria and yeasts in a matrix of proteins, lipids, and sugars. This symbiotic culture of bacteria and yeast (or SCOBY) forms "grains" that resemble cauliflower". Isn't that enough of a definition? We don't go into detail like that in the lead section. Rojomoke (talk) 05:01, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Initiating Deletion of a Redirect

    Hello:

    I think a (perhaps former) colleague has put a redirect in place for "ECRS" (ostensibly, a point-of-sale register and inventory system for retail sales). This redirect shuttles users to the entry for "Kaizen," of which (I suspect) the acronym ECRS has been shoe-horned.

    I would like to nominate this redirect for deletion, and flag the source cited for review and applicability to the topic, with the initiating user notified and possibly censured (if necessary).

    Ideally, my request for deletion would be as simply-issued as I request the local weather report from Alexa. Since the process of requesting deletion of a redirect seems a bit more murky than for an article, I wondered if someone could walk me through this process, including what to put on which "talk" pages, "listing" pages, wawiting periods, et al. that this proposed deletion, should it occur, be according to established principles and in the best way to achieve such at present.

    Thank you,

    Chrishota (talk) 07:53, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Chrishota: The page history [2] shows the reason for redirecting to Kaizen was: Eliminate, combine, rearrange, simplify: Four principles of Kaizen according to "Equalized & synchronized production: the high-mix manufacturing system that ..." By Toshiki Naruse. Neither this nor ECRS is or was mentioned in Kaizen so I have changed ECRS to redirect to Expense and Cost Recovery System (ECRS) which I assume is the meaning you refer to. A nomination and discussion is not mandatory to retarget a redirect. A Wikipedia search of "Eliminate, combine, rearrange, simplify" gives no results but an Internet search confirms it's a real term with acronym ECRS and some connection to Kaizen. There is no reason to censure anyone. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:50, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Unwanted & sign in Notes

    I'm editing the following:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_St._Quentin_Canal#Battle

    I have more or less got the hang of citations and refs now, but I'm stumped on this: I keep ending up with an unwanted & in Note 30. Also, not sure if my formatting is correct for this one, because the reference is to an essay in a book which is an edited collection of essays by different authors. (At least I've remembered my squiggles this time!) Daveleicuk (talk) 11:26, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Not at all clear what it is that you are trying to do with this:
    {{sfn|Winter, Jay "1918 The road to victory" |Ekins|2010|p=40-41}}
    Did you intend:
    {{Cite book |author=Winter, Jay |title=1918 The road to victory |author2=Ekins |date=2010 |pages=40-41}}
    or did you intend:
    {{sfn|Winter|Ekins|2010|pp=40-41}} (there is not Winter & Elkins source in §References)
    —Trappist the monk (talk) 11:33, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello @Daveleicuk:, I have adapted your citation to include both the author's and the editor's information. Ekins is included in separate "editor" parameters. If the specific essay has a title on its own, you can add this title in the currently empty "chapter=" parameter. Please see my edit for more details of the changed parameters (the list of examples at Template:cite book also includes this case among others). A last quick point: "Cite x" templates need the parameter "ref=harv" to activate links between short harvard and full bibliographic references. Hope that helps. GermanJoe (talk) 16:43, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you for your explanation, GermanJoe, this is helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daveleicuk (talk • contribs) 05:57, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Unsalting

    Where can I request that Kyara be unsalted to create a dab page for Paul Henry Kyara, Kyara Stijns and possibly the highest grade (in Japan) of agarwood? Clarityfiend (talk) 15:28, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    The information is at WP:SALT. It appears the salting administrator is Spartaz. Naraht (talk) 15:41, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    SALT just says what it is, and I already know that. I guess I'll ask Spartaz to unsalt it. Clarityfiend (talk) 15:58, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello @Clarityfiend:, WP:UNPROTECT at the bottom of WP:RfPP should also cover such requests to remove create protection (atleast according to the section's info). It recommends to contact the protecting administrator first, unless the admin is inactive of course. GermanJoe (talk) 16:50, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    How to make a reference to explanatory text in a different article

    Is it possible to make a reference in one article (specifically, "Tom Cotton" at "La Cheeserie") to a delimited text in a different text (specifically "The Tony Kornheiser Show" at "La Cheeserie"). — Preceding unsigned comment added by John.garavelli (talk • contribs) 16:55, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @John.garavelli: Hello, you can link to a specific section in another article by typing [[Other article name#Specific section name]] (assuming this is what you are asking). You can use a pipe ('|') after the section name if required. However, please do not use other Wiki pages as a reference. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 17:04, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Article for fanfiction

    Hello! We're writing a kind of a fanfiction as a collaboration, there's about 20 of us and we'd like to keep track of what's happening in it. Are we allowed to create some sort of article for that purpose, when all we need is one page so we'd prefer not to use something like Fandom to create our own Wiki for it. Not necessarily a proper article, but something like a sandbox article we could use? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BookedBy (talk • contribs) 17:20, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @BookedBy: Wikipedia sandboxes are for working on pages that will become articles someday. See WP:ALTERNATIVE for some other options to look at. RudolfRed (talk) 17:29, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi BookedBy a page on Wikia.com could probably be a good solution for you and your group - it runs on the same software as this site. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:42, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Dodger67: Thanks, that's what we were planning to use, but the other options are a bit too time-consuming for us, and just using Wikipedia itself would be way easier. I was reading the rules of creating articles, and it says that "you can put more or less anything on your user page, as long as it does not break any other rules". Could I possibly use my user page for this purpose? If not, I guess we'll be using Wikia in that case. BookedBy (talk) 17:46, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia is not a web host. The user pages are for projects related to Wikipedia. If you click on the previous link and look at point #5. That then links to things you shouldn't have in your userspace. The first row in the table is the one that pertains to what you want to do. ~ GB fan 18:05, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Archive bot mistake

    In [3] the bot archived my "PNBC" request that I just now made. How can I report the mistake by the bot? 208.95.51.38 (talk) 20:24, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm just guessing, but I suspect the mistaken archiving was because, when a vandal added junk below your request, you added a thread title to their edit ("junk") which didn't match the normal format, and the bot assumed it was part of your request. Since you then "declined" the vandalism, the bot archived yours as declined. I think. Maybe. Anyway, I've created the redirect for you. If you want to report this to the bot operator, you can contact them here: User talk:RscprinterBot. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:38, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    How to ask a question?

    2) The photograph did not emerge, nor did the highlights? Underscored info (such as the links to publications and locations and individuals listed and underlined in blue) are not accessible. 3) There does not appear to be a means to contact the author? If there are changes that Wikipedia review would desire (we assume) because this was started in your contact us/talk desk, there is no info about the author.

    We would love to fix these things. Your best suggestions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LostinSpace01 (talk • contribs) 20:32, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    My first suggestion would be that you tell us which article you are referring to. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:39, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Note that "the author" is not usually a meaningful concept with regard to Wikipedia articles, LostinSpace01. If you pick the "History" tab, you can see a list of all the edits made to the article, with who made them and when. But to ask questions or enter discussion about the content of an article, the article's talk page is the best place. --ColinFine (talk) 10:53, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Translation

    Hello im trying to translate an article from spanish wikipedia named Mertin Aquino, el útimo matrero that is ready to publish here [4], Im doing it almost as an excersice but when i try to publish a warning pumps adverting me that im unable to publisg because the article is being filtered, also it says that if the article is constructive i should edit that filter on some way but im really not sure what to do. I think that as an excersise that it is, it is also constructive or at least innocuous. --Neurorebel (talk) 21:34, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Neurorebel. Please see Wikipedia:Content translation tool. In short, only users who are in the extended confirmed user group – meaning having an account that is at least 30 days old and that has made at least 500 edits to the English Wikipedia – can use the content translation tool here. Because you are not in that group you are triggering an edit filter that blocks you from taking the action. For the reason for this restriction, please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/CXT. You are only 33 edits away from reaching the required threshold. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:26, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    there is still lot of way to go for me on the english version.

    That is not fair if democratically dictated, isnt the article good enough? then why is not there a way that i can use it, i can understand the logic but the result is too restrictive as I have no way to to ask for publishing. Even I could copy write the entire code without the translator achievieng the self equal aricle end up published so whats the difference? --Neurorebel (talk) 23:51, 1 May 2017 (UTC) I now read a bunch of that crap, its a shame i did not participate on discussion: translator should not allow literal transposition of content, neither should be such a problem to delete those articles of which mine is not an example and even easier could it be to develop a bot that remove that kind of untranslated content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neurorebel (talk • contribs) 00:13, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    May 2

    Article not listed in category?

    OpenNIC currently has [[:Category:Alternative Internet DNS services]] in its footer, not being listed in Category:Alternative Internet DNS services because of the : prefix. Is there any reason for not listing this page in the category or was it an error by an editor? Edit: This seems to have happened in this diff, seems to have something to do with an AFC submission? Pinging SwisterTwister. Saturnalia0 (talk) 04:12, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Saturnalia0: Yes, it's because drafts and other items not in mainspace should not categories enabled. If you feel the page belongs in the category, merely remove the colon. Links in talk page posts should also have a colon inserted before the pagename so there is not a link between the TP and the article. I.e. [[:OpenNIC]]. Eagleash (talk) 04:29, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Eagleash: I'm not sure what you mean with the last part. For mainspace articles there is no difference between [[:OpenNIC]] and [[OpenNIC]]. If you think [[:OpenNIC]] will omit an entry at Special:WhatLinksHere/OpenNIC then it's not true. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:24, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @PrimeHunter: Thanks I'm not sure how I came by this knowledge, whether it was something another editor imparted or the fact that multiple editors seem to adopt this practice. It does lead me to ask though; if you use for example, {{subst:uw-vandalism2|pagename}}, if you look at the source afterwards, when the message has been expanded, a colon will have been inserted in the coded page name. Also on Commons it is done so images will not display in TP posts I believe. Eagleash (talk) 10:25, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Eagleash: An initial colon ensures an inline link is always made regardless of the type of wikilink. Without a colon, [[Category:...]] will add the page to the category, [[File:...]] or [[Image:...]] will display the file, and [[xx:...]] where xx is a recognized language code will make a link under "Languages" in the left pane. It doesn't matter in which namespace the code is placed. Templates to make links will often add a colon in all cases just to be safe, e.g. if pagename happens to be a category or file page in {{subst:uw-vandalism2|pagename}}. It would be possible to code the templates to test the namespace and only add the colon when needed but there is no reason for the code complication. The colon makes no difference when it's unnecessary. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:57, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Nicola Horlick

    I would be grateful if you could help me. On my page, there is a section about Bernard Madoff. I have made the point many times over the last 9 years that I did not manage the hedge fund portfolio of Bramdean Alternatives, which held a position in Madoff managed funds. This was managed by RMF, which was part of Man Group, which was the largest manager of hedge funds in the world at the time. This was misreported in the press and was the subject of a libel action between me and the Mail on Sunday. The Madoff paragraph was removed some time ago and now it has reappeared. It gives a misleading impression of my career in fund management and I very strongly believe that it should be removed. I have tried three times in the last few days to edit it out myself, but the edits have been reversed. I have been extremely patient about this. As a professional person, my reputation is very important to me. Please let me know how this can be rectified.

    Nicola Horlick — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nhorlick (talk • contribs) 08:29, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    There is copious advice on your user talk page about how to handle your conflict of interest. The place to suggest changes is on the article talk page, and in the box at the top of that talk page there is a link to Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Help. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:58, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll take a look at this now. Carbon Caryatid (talk) 10:58, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • @ Nhorlick. The founder of Wikipedia Jimmy Wales is currently leading a campaign against fake news. This appears to be the situation you have found yourself in, where you have to prove your innocence against a tide of negative reporting. Given your profile, Jimmy may find you valuable to have on board in his fight against bad reporting. Suggest you contact him directly for an opportunity to chew-the-cud. Post the suggestion on his talk page. P.S. Should I still keep the bulk of my portfolio in income producing properties or should I start thinking about moving it else where? Aspro (talk) 12:21, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I have sought advice through the usual channels here and will pursue this. Carbon Caryatid (talk) 12:26, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Carbon Caryatid & Aspro, I think your direction and assessment is correct: this can and should be handled in-house. It is ridiculous for all that we "doth protest" as editors at WP that when a subject comes to the Help Desk for assistance we simply say: "try the Talk Page"; where most often it does not receive the correct set of editorial eyes nor a neutral point of view. I just saw an editor delete an entire article's content because the header tag was "old", and this was considered valid and constructive. I hope you both are able to yield results boldly and finally. Good luck! Maineartists (talk) 13:30, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Sourcing using subject's website

    I'm currently creating a page for a non-profit, and I've used the non-profit's website as a footnoted source for material, much of which is backed up by outside references. When presenting my work to the foundation, board members have expressed concern that this could be a problem. Is this a problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Majicmarty (talk • contribs) 11:27, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    • Hello Majicmarty. First of all, I infer from "presenting my work to the foundation" that you are paid to make your Wikipedia contributions, in which case it must be disclosed per this link. I assume you are talking about User:Majicmarty/sandbox. The board members are mostly correct, but there is a subtle distinction to be made.
    First, Wikipedia requires that its information be verifiable. Because of that, the use of primary sources (i.e. what a source says about themselves) is acceptable for noncontroversial statements (such as the official name of the organization, its postal address, its board members), or the views of that organization, but not for much else. Any statement of fact that could be supported by a secondary source rather than by a primary source should be sourced there (but notice that press releases, interviews etc. most often qualify as primary).
    The bigger problem though is that you need to demonstrate that the topic of the article is "notable" in the Wikipedia sense of the term. This means roughly "has been described at length in reliable, independent sources" (usually, press articles or published books). As it stands, your article does not show that; if the Little Village Foundation is not notable, any article about it will be rejected.
    Finally, while this is no obstacle to publication (although the article needs to be edited further), the style of writing in that draft is quite unacceptable. Wikipedia strives to be an encyclopedia, which does not to advocate a particular position, or promote particular persons/organizations/products/etc.. This is related to the points above. For instance, culturally significant music albums / deserving, but underexposed individuals and groups} is pure PR-speak: it makes vague assertions that cast the subject in a positive light, but none of which are supported by independent reviews. Similarly, all have contributed their musical talents in support of the artists is peacockry with zero factual base (except "they work here", which is already implied by the previous sentence). TigraanClick here to contact me 14:48, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for the speedy reply, Tigraan. And thanks for the clarification regarding my virgin sandbox creation. I'm not being paid in any way for my work on this project. It's a labor of love for an organization I believe in and executed at the group's request. I'll address the issues you describe and proceed accordingly. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Majicmarty (talk • contribs) 15:06, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Delete a page from wikipedia

    Hello, can a page be deleted from Wikipedia? I am contacting you from the City of Williamsburg. We have created a page on Facebook called Kiwanis Park. This page is the same name as your page that had all wrong information on it. We do not need two Kiwanis Park pages out on Facebook but unfortunately, Facebook is telling me they cannot delete the one page that has all the wrong information because it is owned by wiki hub which I am guessing is you.

    So, can Kiwanis Park, Williamsburg be deleted from Wikipedia?

    Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cwilson23185 (talk • contribs) 12:03, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Cwilson23185: the creation of the Wikipedia article Kiwanis Park, Williamsburg about a ball park in the US does not justify the deletion of another Wikipedia article Kiwanis Park, New Brunswick about a similarly-named ball park in Canada. Maproom (talk) 12:17, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Cwilson23185. Not to be snarky but you "guessed wrong". Wikipedia is a site of the Wikimedia Foundation and has nothing to do with Wiki Hub.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:22, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Cwilson23185: You didn't link it so I don't know which Facebook page you refer to or what "wiki hub" is (maybe WikiHub?). My searches gave no good results matching your info. Wikipedia does not make Facebook pages except maybe a few about Wikipedia itself. Facebook or their users can copy Wikipedia pages. The Wikipedia article Kiwanis Park, Williamsburg will not be deleted just because somebody else may have copied it. Even if we deleted it here the copy would probably not be deleted. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:30, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Unsure what to do with article about a living person

    Hi everyone,

    I stumbled across the article linked to above, and until just a moment ago it looked like this. I removed the worst promotional content and tried to fix the lead to make it at least say who this person is, but the result is still not very satisfactory IMO.

    For one thing, I have no idea why this person is notable, so I find it difficult to phrase the lead accordingly.

    Also, I don't see that the second paragraph provides any encyclopedic content either. My gut feeling would be to throw that out too, but I am reluctant to do that because then practically nothing is going to be left.

    Any ideas? --93.212.229.181 (talk) 16:18, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    If you think it needs to be deleted, WP:AFD is the process by which to initiate a discussion among people to decide if that is the best course of action. --Jayron32 16:22, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I have proposed the article for deletion. Maproom (talk) 16:25, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I was about to nominate the article for deletion, but Maproom beat me to it. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 16:26, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    However, the "this article's entry" link at James Mannon is a redlink. I've not come across this before. I wonder what went wrong. Maproom (talk) 16:29, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    It isn't now. I've noticed that happening a lot. It just seems to take a minute sometimes for the browser to bypass its cache. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 16:33, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I did not mention deletion because I really cannot judge this person's notability. I don't mind having the article in here (if it indeed is an article, not just a substub), and I don't mind if it is deleted either. I was just unsure about how to proceed, since after I had done all the work I could on that article it was still very unsatisfactory. --93.212.229.181 (talk) 16:40, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Sure you can. Look for reliable secondary, independent sources that treat the subject in detail (at a minimum try Google Books, New Archive and Scholar → fail to find them? → you've done due diligence to nominate on the basis of notability → nominate for deletion → see if anyone else can find the sources you didn't → if not, it will likely be deleted and rightly so.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:24, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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    You can use separate names as long as they start with mw-customcollapsible- and mw-customtoggle-. See below example. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:15, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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    Rollback vs Twinkle?

    Is there any difference between Twinkle's rollback feature and the rollback feature given by applying for its right? Also, would applying for rollback permissions be redundant due to Twinkle's rollback? Blorper234 (talk) 22:58, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    They are very similar, but there are some slight differences. Both Twinkle and the MediaWiki rollback feature can revert an edit with a single click. With Twinkle, you can easily add a reason for reverting. Also, rollback adds links to other pages like page history and the watchlist, while Twinkle's rollback links only show up in diffs. See WP:ROLLBACK#Additional tools for a bit more on the differences. In my experience, MediaWiki rollback can be useful when page patrolling with your watchlist or recent changes page since obvious vandalism can be reverted with one click, but I tend to use Twinkle more frequently because of the ability to customize edit summaries and easily place warning templates. clpo13(talk) 23:37, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec) According to WP:Rollback they are the same. RudolfRed (talk) 23:38, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    May 3

    SandBox questions

    I was working in my own personal sandbox and for some reason either the work was deleted or the account was changed. The article that I was posting was "A Cognitive Risk Framework". CogRskFrmWrk user name? If I start a new wikipedia page about a topic for which I am familiar but no other articles or topics are available about the subject how is it approved?

    Who decides and how should I respond to an article that is rejected. The entire process appears to be wrapped in a mystery?

    James — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueBook4 (talk • contribs) 01:28, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm not seeing any deleted contributions on the account you're using, nor a User:CogRskFrmWrk.
    I did see Draft:Cognitive Risk Framework for Cyber Security (although I have deleted it because it was undeniable plagiarism), which was written by a JaMesB2017. I see that JaMesB2017 was previously named CogRskFrmWrk, but would have had to request a change of username.
    All new articles most contain specific citations multiple professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that are unaffiliated with the subject but still specifically about it. The article material must only summarize the citations not elaborate nor combine them into statements not immediately supported by the citation. On the other side, however, articles must not plagiarize the source material. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:35, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    The following lines appear in my recent contributions:

    Nobody's ever edited these two pages, aside from me, and I've never used my alternate account to edit either one of them. I can understand it appearing on both (because it would always appear whenever I'd made the most recent edit to a page) or it appearing on neither (because no other account had ever edited, so rollback wouldn't work), but why would it appear on one but not the other? Nyttend (talk) 04:43, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Regarding deletion of a Wiki page I created

    Hi Team Wikipedia,


    I had created a page on behalf of my company on 5/2/17 titled 'CitiusTech Inc.', but it got deleted by the user DESiegel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DESiegel).

    The reason for deleting the page said G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion. Please help me understand what part is promotional and I will remove it.


    Looking forward to a swift reply from your end.

    Thanks, Edgar


    07:20, 3 May 2017 (UTC)07:20, 3 May 2017 (UTC)07:20, 3 May 2017 (UTC)07:20, 3 May 2017 (UTC)07:20, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

    Attaching the content here for your perusal:

    CitiusTech is a healthcare technology solutions and services provider headquartered in Princeton, NJ. With over 2,700 healthcare technology professionals, CitiusTech serves about 80 healthcare technology companies/ISVs, large hospitals/IDNs, payers, providers and life sciences organizations and has presence in North America, Europe, Asia and the Middle East. CitiusTech offers services and solutions for healthcare software development, healthcare interoperability, regulatory compliance, BI/analytics, consumer engagement, care coordination and population health management.

    In 2016, CitiusTech ranked in Healthcare Informatics HCI100 – for being in the top 100 US healthcare IT vendors by revenues.[1] CitiusTech is a member of the CHiME Foundation,[2] and has technology partnerships with AWS [3] , Microsoft [4] and IBM. [5]

    CitiusTech was founded in 2005 by Rizwan Koita, Jagdish Moorjani and Bimal Naik. In May 2014, General Atlantic, a global growth equity firm, invested about US$ 100 million to acquire a minority stake in CitiusTech. [6]

    Awards and Recognition  2016 – CitiusTech awarded by Great Place to Work Institute® for India’s ‘Best Companies To Work For in IT & ITeS’ (7)

     2015 – CitiusTech awarded by Great Place to Work Institute® for India’s ‘Best IT-BPM Companies To Work For’ [8]

     2015 – CitiusTech awarded with The Gold Stevie® Award for the ‘Most Innovative Tech Company of the Year’, by the American Business 

                  Awards [9]

     2014 – CitiusTech awarded by Great Place to Work Institute® for India’s ‘Best Companies To Work For’ [10]

     2013 - CitiusTech awarded by Great Place to Work Institute® for India’s ‘Best Companies To Work For’ [11]

     2013 – Rizwan Koita honored with The Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year Award in the Startup category for CitiusTech [12]

     2012 - CitiusTech awarded by Great Place to Work Institute® for India’s ‘Best Companies to Work For’ [13]

     2011 – CitiusTech wins the Red Herring’s Top 100 North America Award [14]

    References 1. CitiusTech listed in the annual listing of Healthcare Informatics HCI100.

    2. CHIME Foundation’s executive healthcare partner CitiusTech

    3. CitiusTech and Amazon Web Services (AWS) partnership

    4. Microsoft and CitiusTech’s technology partnership

    5. CitiusTech and IBM partnership

    6. General Atlantic invests in healthcare tech firm CitiusTech - March 20, 2014 – via Business Standard

    7. ‘CitiusTech awarded by Great Place to Work Institute in 2016’

    8. ‘CitiusTech wins ‘2015 Best Companies to work for’ award for the 4th year in a row’

    9. Gold Stevie® Award for the ‘Most Innovative Tech Company of the Year’ – September 15, 2015

    10. CitiusTech, India’s ‘Best Companies To Work’ for in 2014

    11. CitiusTech wins Great Place to Work Award in 2013

    12. Rizwan Koita – EY Entrepreneur of the Year India, Start-up

    13. CitiusTech awarded by Great Place to Work Institute in 2012

    14. Red Herring North America Winners

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