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Notification concerns

If you are not already aware of the policy, please read WP:CANVASS. I notice that you have notified two users about several AfD discussions (diff, diff), but it appears that you are only notifying those that seem to agree with your views. For example, in this post you mentioned this AfD discussion, but you only notified the nominator for deletion, but did not notify the other participant (User:James500) in the AfD discussion who opined for the article to be retained. Furthermore, James500 has contributed to several of the discussions you listed in your posts, but from the Revision history for their user talk page, you have not notified them about these discussions. Comes across as overt canvassing, and please notify all interested users when sending notifications, not only those that tend to agree with your views. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:18, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Northamerica1000, well, James had already participated in almost all the discussion I listed. I didn't check them all so I might be mistaken. In any case, I had notified him now. And I thought that the wording used was neutral enough not to count as canvassing. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 11:23, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for providing the notification to James500. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:59, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I may have overreacted a bit, because yes, James500 has contributed to many of those discussions (I also have not checked them all). The lack of notifying all involved is what stood out. At any rate, thanks for being congenial. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:23, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 12:31, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Northamerica1000: I have no desire to be notified of the existence any AfD. I would prefer not to receive notifications like the one Tyw7 sent me at your request. James500 (talk) 17:32, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please protect my talk page and possibly block the IP Hopping vandal

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An IP hopping vandal is adding the user is block sock puppet template to my talk page and the talk page of a couple of other users. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tyw7&action=history --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 12:26, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I posted at ANI. L293D (☎ • ✎) 12:29, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I saw. But he might be back. At least an Admin had blocked the IP (for now). Edit: And he's back. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 12:30, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Care when reverting vandalism

It's always a good idea to carefully check what you are reverting to when you undo vandalism, especially on a page which has had a lot of recent vandalism. See the image you restored in this edit. For some reason the image doesn't show when I go to that diff, I don't know why, and am not going to spend time finding out why, but the image does exist.) The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:59, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up. I should have just restored an earlier version rather than undoing the latest vandal. And thank gods it didn't show. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 13:00, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's MediaWiki:Bad image list at work Mortee (talk) 13:13, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion notifications

I've noticed you leaving messages for users to participate in various AfDs. Just curious what your method is. It doesn't look like you notify everyone in a given discussion (e.g. only select people from the first List of breakfast drinks AfD), but at the same time it doesn't look like the people you are notifying !voted a particular way, so it doesn't seem to be a canvassing thing. Just random selection? Do you keep a running list of who might be interested in what? — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:00, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well I just notify those who participated in the first deletion (maybe I missed a few as there was tons of back and forth discussion). But I left a general notification on Talk:List of breakfast drinks so that those who are interested can go and participate. More often than not it's if the user had participated in a similiar AFD ie of a similiar topic to the current one, they get pinged. For example, I notified those who participated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of foods by calorie, which is very similar to the breakfast drink AFD in the fact that both talks about list of food. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 14:04, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We do have several mechanisms for deletion discussion notification (delsort, article alerts, the dashboard...). I think you will inevitably get accusations of canvassing like you did just now in the breakfast drink AfD. I'm not saying that's what you're doing, but if you're going to notify people you'll probably want to be careful that you are notifying every participant in a given discussion rather than acting like a bot to randomly select some. From your "maybe I missed a few" comment, perhaps you intended to notify everyone, in which case no big deal. :) $0.02 — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 17:36, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I was notifying is to avoid a stalemate. The previous request only had like 3 editors arguing before the time ran out. I feel that there might be an WP:OWN issue going on because of all the WP:PEACOCK praising going on. Therefore, I wanted to get a wider audience of uninvolved editors. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 17:45, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Editing the Boston Confucians‎.

Moved to User talk:DexterPointy § Editing the Boston Confucians.

– Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 12:23, 25 July 2018 (UTC)) 19:14, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page protection

Well, the vandal has returned, so I have protected the talk pages again. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 07:12, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gods they're persistent. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 10:13, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

July 2018

Hello. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia.

When editing Wikipedia, there is a field labeled "Edit summary" below the main edit box. It looks like this:

Edit summary (Briefly describe your changes)

I noticed your recent edit to List of breakfast foods does not have an edit summary. Please be sure to provide a summary of every edit you make, even if you write only the briefest of summaries. The summaries are very helpful to people browsing an article's history.

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Please use the edit summary to explain your reasoning for the edit, or a summary of what the edit changes. You can give yourself a reminder to add an edit summary by setting Preferences → Editing → Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary.

Seriously, you're opining for deletion while adding content to the article. At the very least, please leave edit summaries to denote how you are changing the article. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:51, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well there is edit summary... and I'm adding food that could be considered breakfast. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 11:53, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like you're going down the same WP:POINT road that DexterPointy did with adding urine to the breakfast drinks list. You're clearly adding material for shock value, complete with terrible sources -- and those that aren't terrible are using (pizza) as a surprise in order to make a point about breakfast cereals, not saying that pizza is a typical breakfast food. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:15, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well technically pizza could be considered a breakfast food as it is eaten at breakfast, commonly I should add. I found quite a few sources saying that pizza is eaten for breakfast. Heck, one source is saying it's healthier than cereal. I was going to revert the reindeer addition but somebody already reverted me previously. Anyway, sorry. And yeah I stopped adding farfetched food to the list. -- Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 16:35, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Tyw7: Don't be too sorry.

FYI: Reindeer sausage for breakfast is fairly common in Alaska (reindeer breakfast sandwich might also be common).

And you're not alone in being "pointy":
- Revision as of 10:48, 9 July 2018 : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_breakfast_foods&type=revision&diff=849489026&oldid=849461696
- Revision as of 17:15, 26 July 2018 : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_breakfast_foods&type=revision&diff=852104710&oldid=850048292
- Revision as of 18:26, 26 July 2018 : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_breakfast_foods&type=revision&diff=852112968&oldid=852104710
- Revision as of 17:28, 27 July 2018 : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_breakfast_foods&type=revision&diff=852258737&oldid=852256393
If you look into the reference by Andrew D., then you'll discover that the source does not even support the claim of æbleskiver being notable/common as breakfast in the USA. - So, it's not you, it's just that some a more equal than others.

BTW: I think User:Shadowowl was chased away from WP by DGG (ref. this i.e. 1'st AfD, 2'nd AfD). Well, we've both encountered DDG in very recently times. (like DGG clearly missing the ball here)
-- DexterPointy (talk) 15:28, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, he accused me of having bad faith when in fact I didn't make the nomination. And fair enough with the sausage. Also, without access to the book, I can't judge whether Æbleskiver is indeed eaten by others in US. But based on what you said, I'm guessing not. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 15:34, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]