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Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet

"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time." --Neil Stephenson, Cryptonomicon

(talk page stalker) A late friend of mine put it this way: "Arguing with idiots is wasted effort. They have no minds to change; and unlike you, nothing better to do with their time." Jeh (talk) 04:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Spell-Checker Song: Owed to a Spell Czech Her (Ode to a spellchecker)


Eye halve a spelling chequer.
It came with my pea sea.
It plane lee marks four my Rhea view,
Miss steaks aye Ken knot see.

Iran this Poe Em threw it.
Your shore lee glad two no.
It is core wrecked in every weigh,
My chequer tolled me sew.

A Czech her is a bless sing.
It freeze yew lodes of thyme.
It helps me right stiles ewe can reed,
And aides me when aye rime.

Eye strike a key and type a word.
And weight four it two say.
Weather eye am wrong oar write.
It shows me strait aweigh.

Each frays come posed up on my screen,
Is trussed two bee a Joule.
The check Ur pours o'er every word,
To Czech sum spelling rule.

As soon as a mist ache is maid.
It nose bee fore two long.
And eye can put the error rite.
Its rare lea ever wrong.

Bee fore a veiling cheque curs,
hour spelling mite decline.
If wee R. lacks oar have a laps,
We wood bee maid two wine.

Butt now bee cause my spelling,
Is checked with such grate flare,
There are know faults with in my cite,
Of nun eye am a wear.

Now spelling does knot phase me,
It does knot bring a tier.
My pay purrs awl due glad den,
With words sew fare too here.

2 rite with care is quite a fete,
Of witch won should bee proud;
and wee mussed dew the best week Anne,
Sew flaws argh[1] knot aloud.

Sow ewe can sea why aye dew prays.
Such soft wear four pea seize.
And why eye brake in 2 averse
With righting sure too please.

Attribution: I composed the above as a modification of various versions found on the web labeled "author unknown" or some such. Later I discovered this page, which appears to document the original sources, and my version is clearly a heavily modified derivative version of what is listed on that page. To whatever extent the above is my own work, I release it under the Creative Commons CC0 license. --Guy Macon
--Guy Macon (talk) 22:21, 28 June 2018 (UTC) [ Citation Needed ][reply]

Just because you have some money, that doesn't mean that you have to spend it.

Updated essay: see new "2016-2017 update" information near the bottom.

User:Guy Macon/Just because you have some money, that doesn't mean that you have to spend it.

--Guy Macon (talk) 17:57, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The most important[Citation Needed] page on Wikipedia

User:Guy Macon/On the Diameter of the Sewer cover in front of Greg L’s house‎ --Guy Macon (talk) 16:00, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Dear Guy Macon, I want to thank you for taking me under your wing, with regard to the deletion of a phrase that I added to the page "Mel Blanc". I'm a complete neophyte to Wikipedia, and I am sure that the editor who deleted it was concerned that my added sentence may have had commercial or conflict-of-interest intent, and exercised due caution (understandably). But I assure all of you that this was never my intent.

Perhaps I simply used incorrect Citations -- I mistakenly assumed that I need to provide validation that Mel's company, Blanc Communications Corporation, is still actually in business. Viewed under that lens, my citations would appear to be promotional instead of informational. I apologize for this, and wish I could share my apology with editor Binkersnet too!

Thankfully there are outside Web references to Mel Blanc's company Blanc Communications Corporation that are NOT under our control. Is there any way for you to evaluate the following and see if they represent unbiased references? Here are a few: https://www.discogs.com/label/930149-Blanc-Communications-Corporation, https://www.encyclopedia.com/media/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/blanc-mel-1908-1989, https://archive.org/stream/ThatsNotAllFolksByMelBlancAndPhilipBasheStarbrite/Thats_Not_All_Folks_by_Mel_Blanc_and_Philip_Bashe_%28Starbrite%29_djvu.txt

I hope these are sufficient replacement citations for the previous ones I ignorantly placed after my edit to the Mel Blanc page. Please let me know.

Kindest Regards, wordsandpicturesWordsandpictures (talk) 01:31, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reply is at User talk:Wordsandpictures#Blanc Communications. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:06, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Guy

Hello Guy Macon; I'm here. :) Most importantly, I hope that your family member is doing well!

As I just posted on Talk:Mel Blanc, during the Mel Blanc Associates/Blanc Communications years, Mel and his son Noel produced over 5000 public service announcements and commercials featuring major stars like Kirk Douglas, Lucille Ball, Vincent Price, Phyllis Diller, Liberace, the rock band The Who, and of course Mel himself. It is for the above reasons that I wanted to include Blanc Communications as a vital — and colorful — part of Mel Blanc's career.

Editor Binksternet also replied to me, recommending that I tell of my recent folly on Talk:Mel Blanc and see whether editors would be amenable to suggesting changes (namely cited references). Binkersnet felt that these two new, unbiased links I shared could be adequate: https://www.encyclopedia.com/media/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/blanc-mel-1908-1989, https://archive.org/stream/ThatsNotAllFolksByMelBlancAndPhilipBasheStarbrite/Thats_Not_All_Folks_by_Mel_Blanc_and_Philip_Bashe_%28Starbrite%29_djvu.txt

Please let me know of any other tasks I should perform in order to "plead my case" so to speak. And yes, I'm happy to validate my identity as Katherine Blanc at any time if needed.

Thank you, wordsandpicturesWordsandpictures (talk) 19:34, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Following up on Mel Blanc page: an independently-edited inclusion of Mel Blanc Associates/Blanc Communications Corp.

Hello Guy Macon,

I'm just following up to see if you needed additional information from me, as you prepare a fresh edit to include the Mel Blanc Associates/Blanc Communications Corp. era of Mel Blanc's career on the Mel Blanc Wikepedia page.

Please let me know.

Best, wordsandpicturesWordsandpictures (talk) 00:28, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Still, working on it. See Talk:Mel Blanc#Proposed changes. --Guy Macon (talk) 15:56, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It looks great! In my opinion, nothing else needs to be added. BTW, thanks for ordering a copy of MELVIN THE MOUTH. It took me 3 years to sell the manuscript but the effort was truly worth it as there were no children's books about Mel, and I knew that kids would love reading about a misfit who finds a place for his talents. Katherine Blanc -- wordsandpicturesWordsandpictures (talk) 16:05, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
A bit off topic, but is there any evidence that Jan and Dean's Dead Man's Curve was a direct reference to Mel Blanc's accident? The only ref I could find was here:[2] If I could verify it, I would like to add the info to our Dead Man's Curve (song) page.
Answer: No, Jan and Dean's song wasn't a direct reference to Mel's accident. The section of Sunset Blvd. known as "Dead Man's Curve" got its name due to numerous deaths, prior to Mel's accident, on that same stretch near UCLA. However, while Mel was still recovering from his accident, his family (represented by attorney Irving Green (sp?) sued the City of Los Angeles and won. The hazardous crowning of the road was repaired. On the day that Mel was released from the hospital, while being driven to his Pacific Palisades home, he was transported on Sunset Blvd. -- along the newly repaired Deadman's Curve. Interestingly, in the 1980's Blanc Communications Corporation collaborated with Warner Bros. on a restaurant concept called "Gadgets", in which animatronic Looney Tunes® characters sang and performed onstage for restaurant patrons. While "Gadgets" was a bust, Mel's voice tracks were sensational. Ironically, one of the tracks was Jan and Dean's "Dead Man's Curve". As Noel and I watched Mel record that track in the booth, we wondered what he must have been thinking. Yet Mel was so into his characterization that he didn't give the irony much thought until AFTER the recording!
A bit more off topic, but for the past few months I have been working my way through The Looney Tunes Golden Collection on Netflix. I am in awe at how Mel Blanc made those characters come alive. Alas, Netfix doesn't have his Private Snafu work. :( Now that was a real work of art! --Guy Macon (talk) 16:14, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Answer: I just asked Noel, and he believes that Snafu is included in the Golden Collection; possibly on Volume 6. wordsandpicturesWordsandpictures (talk) 18:08, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
Guy Macon is a shining example of a Wikipedia contributor dedicated to the development and preservation of reliable and properly documented page material. In addition, he has selflessly assisted this neophyte contributor in navigating the steep (but worthwhile) learning curve of proper and effective page contribution. Wordsandpictures (talk) 00:21, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy Wales on bias and NPOV.

Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, once said:

"Wikipedia’s policies around this kind of thing are exactly spot-on and correct. If you can get your work published in respectable scientific journals – that is to say, if you can produce evidence through replicable scientific experiments, then Wikipedia will cover it appropriately."
"What we won’t do is pretend that the work of lunatic charlatans is the equivalent of 'true scientific discourse'. It isn’t.[3][4]"

So yes, we are biased towards science and biased against pseudoscience. We are biased towards astronomy, and biased against astrology. We are biased towards chemistry, and biased against alchemy. We are biased towards mathematics, and biased against numerology. We are biased towards cargo planes, and biased against cargo cults. We are biased towards crops, and biased against crop circles. We are biased towards laundry soap, and biased against laundry balls. We are biased towards water treatment, and biased against magnetic water treatment. We are biased towards electromagnetic fields, and biased against microlepton fields. We are biased towards evolution, and biased against creationism. We are biased towards medical treatments that have been shown to be effective in double-blind clinical trials, and biased against medical treatments that are based upon preying on the gullible. We are biased towards NASA astronauts, and biased against ancient astronauts. We are biased towards psychology, and biased against phrenology. We are biased towards Mendelian inheritance, and biased against Lysenkoism. --Guy Macon (talk) 02:33, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

BINGO! BINGO! BINGO! BINGO! BINGO! BINGO! BINGO! BINGO! -- BullRangifer (talk) PingMe 02:39, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ANI-"notice"

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Guy Macon's homophones just game me an aneurysm and I can't see my screen anymore. GMGtalk 14:02, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I will get write on it. You did sea User talk:Guy Macon#The Spell-Checker Song: Owed to a Spell Czech Her (Ode to a spellchecker), right? --Guy Macon (talk) 14:32, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oh god. That's ArbCom worthy. GMGtalk 14:37, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No need to call me "god". "Guy" will do. --Guy Macon (talk) 14:47, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest we split the difference and call you "Gud". ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 16:21, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --Guy Macon (talk) 17:05, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"Gud" means "God" in the Scandinavian languages. -- BullRangifer (talk) PingMe 14:53, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just glad that nobody thought of compromising on "Goy"... :)   -Guy Macon (talk) 14:57, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]